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TeeRexx
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:42 PM
With Dementieva winning her first title in a stunning upset of Davenport, one would wonder if this event will inspire Alex Stevenson to go out and get her first title as well.

Alex has the basic necessay skills to win a title and has been in a WTA tour final as well. The big question is does Alex have the mental toughness to get a title.

I would like for this event to happen to Alex, but somehow I feel that Dementieva will win additional titles before Alex accomplishes this goal.

I wonder if Elena's win makes that OTHER famous Russian tennis player/model feel a little bit left out? :eek: :D

Dava
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:42 PM
I hope that Vera or Anna are the next to swipe the 0 off thier titles.

gmak
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:49 PM
vera zvonareva will be the next one ;)

aisha
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:50 PM
I doubt Alex will be the next one. :sad: Nice pipe dream though.

ys
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:51 PM
With Dementieva winning her first title in a stunning upset of Davenport, one would wonder if this event will inspire Alex Stevenson to go out and get her first title as well.

Alex has the basic necessay skills to win a title and has been in a WTA tour final as well. The big question is does Alex have the mental toughness to get a title.

I would like for this event to happen to Alex, but somehow I feel that Dementieva will win additional titles before Alex accomplishes this goal.


The problem for Alex is *surface*. Note, that Myskina won her first title on clay, Dementieva did as well, and so did Kusnetsova, Safina and Bovina. Ring the bell? Upcoming players has very little chance to win the first title on grass, and even less on US hardcourts ( Hantuchova was an exception, but that IW *was* an exception - a tournament without Williams,Capriati, and Davenport ). European indoor tournaments are also very competitive. That leavs us with clay as perfect ground for a breakthrough. And Stevenson is not good on clay. Meaning, what exactly would you expect her to win? She might have a shot at Birmingham or S'Hertogensbosh, but other than that, I don't see her even having a shot at it before the minor after-US Open hardcourt events. Because she is no good on clay.

Julian
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:51 PM
Hopefully. Alex is very talented.

BTW what a great year this is starting to turn out. 2 of my faves have won their 1st singles title..Nathalie Dechy (January) and now Elena. :)

Venus Forever
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:53 PM
I dunno, but playing well on the clay [her least favorite surface] by taking Hantuchova to three, is a good sign.

Hopefully Madrid is where she breaks through.

GO ALEXANDRA!!

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

Becool
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:59 PM
Alex is playing Madrid??
I'm shocked if she is! :eek:

BTW, Alex can very well be the next one to win her first title. But I think she might win on a faster surface like Birmingham, or even Eastbourne..

I don't know if she 's going to win a title on clay, but she's going to win a title on faster surfaces.. Who said that the tournaments on indoors, are more competitive.. well Alexandra played well last year on this season.. Did finals at Linz defeating Hantuchova, Myskina and Conchita M. who even tho is a clay courter player, she was really in a row last year on this surface..

So I don't know. Alex is one of those players unpredictable.. She can play like a top 10 a week, and next week, sucks like a player out of top 100.. This is her weakness.. But I'm sure she'll be inspired by some moment of this year and shock (not me) some you guys, and win a title.. :cool:

No one makes a Wimbledon semifinal with no talent, so to say she doesn't have a talent is bulshit.. :rolleyes:

Venus Forever
Apr 20th, 2003, 11:02 PM
Yeah, Alexandra is fifth on the entry list for Madrid.;)

Pdm1987
Apr 20th, 2003, 11:06 PM
Vera Z will be next to collect her first title ;)

ys
Apr 20th, 2003, 11:30 PM
No one makes a Wimbledon semifinal with no talent, so to say she doesn't have a talent is bulshit.. :rolleyes:

Reaching Wimbledon semifinals at such young age seem to become a bad omenl.. Kournikova. Lucic. Stevenson.

tennisIlove09
Apr 20th, 2003, 11:49 PM
The fall indoor season is very competitive, but Alex did really well last year. Maybe this year if she plays a smaller one, she could win.

What's the Quebec City event played on?

CJ07
Apr 20th, 2003, 11:53 PM
the difference between Alex and Dementieva is that Dementieva has always been a top 5 prospect, while alex hasnt

also, Dementieva has always (up untill late last year) been in the top 15 and just waiting for it to happen while isnt 20 Alex's highest ranking?

I'm not saying she wont do it, but unless she gets her head together, anything more than a Tier 3 seems unlikely

Venus Forever
Apr 20th, 2003, 11:56 PM
IMO, if Alexandra and Elena played their best and both heads were on straight, Alexandra would win. She has the bigger serve (first and second), she has the bigger forehand, and a bigger backhand. She would blow Dementieva off the court.

Alexandra just needs to get her head together, and stop making the UFE. As soon as she does that, she'll be in the top 10 in no time.

And Elena being a top 5 prospect, I highly doubt that, ESPECIALLY with that serve.

BTW, Alexandra's high rank is 18.;)

selesfan87
Apr 20th, 2003, 11:58 PM
Alex is very talented.

That is something you would expect from a pro.

ys
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:04 AM
IMO, if Alexandra and Elena played their best and both heads were on straight, Alexandra would win. She has the bigger serve (first and second)

Who's got the better return?


she has the bigger forehand


Oh, really?


and a bigger backhand.


And on top of that, Alexandra is a better mover, because single-handed backhand is not much if you can't supply it with perfect footwork on regular basis.

And as to defensive play, Alexandra is as much of human backboard as Mariaan De Swardt. Or, maybe, even less..

CJ07
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:14 AM
IMO, if Alexandra and Elena played their best and both heads were on straight, Alexandra would win. She has the bigger serve (first and second), she has the bigger forehand, and a bigger backhand. She would blow Dementieva off the court.

Alexandra just needs to get her head together, and stop making the UFE. As soon as she does that, she'll be in the top 10 in no time.

And Elena being a top 5 prospect, I highly doubt that, ESPECIALLY with that serve.

BTW, Alexandra's high rank is 18.;)
thats your opinion, and i'll respect that

but your tottaly wrong :)

and yes Dementieva was always a top 5 prospect
and shes way more consistent than alex has ever been

and just for arguments sake, what are alex's biggest wins?
Dementieva has beaten Venus, Hingis (while #1), Davenport 3 times, Clijsters, Henin, etc. etc.

CJ07
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:17 AM
shes beaten Capriati 3 times

but thats it

maccardel
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:19 AM
I think that with Alex playing the Fed Cup next weekkend, then maybe she can pick up a few pointers from Venus and Serena and Meghann. I always thought that Serena and Venus gave Billie Jean King a lot of credit for improving their game since they first played Fed Cup and the Olympics. I just hope the same for Alex too.

We will have to wait and see.

Havok
Apr 21st, 2003, 12:26 AM
The fall indoor season is very competitive, but Alex did really well last year. Maybe this year if she plays a smaller one, she could win.

What's the Quebec City event played on?
i think it's indoor hardcourt

SJW
Apr 21st, 2003, 01:18 AM
tehehehehehe@ this title

i can wish :hearts:

Venus Forever
Apr 21st, 2003, 01:29 AM
shes beaten Capriati 3 times

but thats it

Alexandra has beaten some pretty good players, and top 10 players.

She beat Capriati, Dokic, Hantuchova, Myskina, Coetzer, even Dementieva.

She once took Serena to three sets, she challenged Hingis mightly last year, as well as Monica.

Dementieva was NEVER a top 5 prospect. I never even heard so much BS in my life. Top 5 with that serve?!?! That serve is worse than Hingis' and she had the craftiness and placement to go along with more speed than that.

Cariaoke
Apr 21st, 2003, 01:38 AM
I *hope* that Alex is the next one to break out and win. If not her, Vera would be my next choice.

I expect her to do it this fall during the indoor season because she had such a great run last year. Whenever it is, I hope it's THIS year because I'm afraid the chance of it happening will diminish if not. C'mon Alex! Learn something in fed cup! :o :bounce:

tennisIlove09
Apr 21st, 2003, 02:06 AM
VenusForever,

I agree with most of your post. Alex does have the better serve, first and second. And I would even say she has the edge [slight] in the backhand.

But, forehand and return are given to Dementieva. Hands down.

Movement is interesting, because neither one is a great mover. I think I'd give the slight edge to Dementieva.

Really, both Amelia Island, both players were in the same boat. They both have TONS of talent...but were never consistent enough, and always made bad errors at the wrong times.

On another note:
H2H between Dementieva/Alexandra
2001-03-19 Miami Hardcourt R64 Elena Dementieva (RUS) 6-2 2-0 ret
2001-10-01 Moscow Indoor Carpet R16 Elena Dementieva (RUS) 4-6 7-5 6-2
2002-03-04 Indian Wells Hardcourt R32 Alexandra Stevenson (USA) 6-4 0-6 6-4

Rule out the first if Alex was injured...both very close three setters

Venus Forever
Apr 21st, 2003, 02:10 AM
I still think Alexandra has the advantage on the forehand. Alexandra really goes after every shot, and she is relentless on her strokes, especially on the forehand, even on the run.

Movement definitely goes to Elena, no doubt about it.

I just believe has a lot more weapons and can go further with her game than Elena.

The return of serve will come for Alexandra as soon as she gets her strokes down themselves. She hits so hard off the ground that she can be a dangerous returner.

Fingon
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:01 AM
IMO, if Alexandra and Elena played their best and both heads were on straight, Alexandra would win. She has the bigger serve (first and second), she has the bigger forehand, and a bigger backhand. She would blow Dementieva off the court.

Alexandra just needs to get her head together, and stop making the UFE. As soon as she does that, she'll be in the top 10 in no time.

And Elena being a top 5 prospect, I highly doubt that, ESPECIALLY with that serve.

BTW, Alexandra's high rank is 18.;)

yes, but it's not about whacking the ball only.

Alexandra has no mobility, Elena is one of the best movers in the tour.

Alexandra has some serious flaws in her game. she tries to serve and volley not understanding how it works, moves to the net too slowly and doesn't hit an approach shot.

Her serve is powerful but not well placed, she has the edge over Elena there though.

I saw Alexandra practicing in Montreal, she was nearly two hours returning serve, a guy was serving at her, and she got upset when he didn't serve to the spot she wanted it, basically she was practicing how to hit the ball, not how to return serve, and it's all she did :eek:

unless she gets a proper coach and starts working seriously, no chance.

Dawn Marie
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:07 AM
I have to agree with Fingon here. Alex needs to lose some weight and get a real coach. She has the tools though imho to win Wimbeldon. She needs a coach and some consistency. She has beaten some top players and quality opponents.. so the potential is there.. just imho a matter of time. Hell though, with Elena winning her first title toda.. then I still have hope for Alex. I think her weight is her problem.. to heavy on her feet. She needs to lose about 20 lbs.

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:08 AM
I have to agree with Fingon here. Alex needs to lose some weight and get a real coach. She has the tools though imho to win Wimbeldon. She needs a coach and some consistency. She has beaten some top players and quality opponents.. so the potential is there.. just imho a matter of time. Hell though, with Elena winning her first title toda.. then I still have hope for Alex. I think her weight is her problem.. to heavy on her feet. She needs to lose about 20 lbs.
:wavey: dawn :D:D:D:D

Dawn Marie
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:09 AM
Hi Dlandy! I am going to REP you.. If I can.. LOL:):D

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:10 AM
i cant give you right now :sad:

my name is david by the way ;) u can call me that :D

F-R-E-A-K
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:11 AM
I doubt it if Alex will b the next one..

Dawn Marie
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:11 AM
Okey Dokey!:)

WhatTheDeuce
Apr 21st, 2003, 06:13 AM
i agree with your post as well. alex has all the tools for success...but fitness is still a problem...anna's mind and her serve are really big problems...in terms of fitness, anna is perfect...im so happy for elena though....

Becool
Apr 21st, 2003, 07:26 AM
Alex even a lil' (u can say shes more, but i dont think shes that much) overweight, she played one of her best tennis last year, when almost got that spot for the chase..

BTW Alex has also some lapses.. Do you remember how near Alex was from winning that match against Sugiyama at Scottsdale? Of course, fitness is a great problem, but I would say that mainly, her mental game is what she lacks a good preparation of.. She also on that match against Dementieva in Moscow, if I'm not wrong, she was 6-4 5-3, she had the serve for the match.. Alex usually doesn't know how to finish a match against great players.. She always had the chances, and the opportunities, but somehow, she loses them.. It's definitely lack of mental..

Dementieva? Top 5 material? No.. Yes top 15 ok.. You have to be very good to be a top 5 material.. specially be able to get more than 1 title.. Dementieva is going to get more titles.. but until there, shes not a top 5 material..

If Alex was fit, like she was in 1999 Wimbledon, playing the game she played last year, she would probably be on top 15.. She definitely has the game.. too bad she eats too much :rolleyes:

SJW
Apr 21st, 2003, 01:12 PM
ROTF@the person who said Elena wasnt fast or whatever???

that girl is fast...didnt u see her vs Dav? she was running like her life depended on it.....

if coulda sworn that was Venus/Serena/Kim/Amanda/ASV etc in disguise

Alex's movement on the other hand?: :rolleyes:

Mase
Apr 21st, 2003, 02:15 PM
One word, no. She's doesnt have the complete game you need to make it through a tournament, unless its one like Budapest with no big babes in it. I just cant see it happening. Elena has posted big wins in the past, and has been more consistent with those wins..

Venus Forever
Apr 21st, 2003, 09:47 PM
I keep hearing that movement is the only thing that will keep Alexandra from winning a title. Honeslty, I don't think movement is that big of an issue, I think her head and consistency are the problems.

I say movement is not the problem, because look at Monica. She is probably the worst mover on the tour, but she hits so hard and consistent that she controls most of the points, and doesn't have to move. However, people still consider her contenders for slams, not only regular titles.

Alexandra is a better mover than Monica, and probably hits just as hard. Alexandra's problem is consistency, and her head, and that's it.

Alexandra can be very erratic one second, and hit a string of winners the next second. I also notice that her head is a proble, she goes for it when she shouldn't and doesn't go for it when she should. I noticed this against Sugiyama. She went for stupid shots when she didn't have the opportunity, and didn't go for it when she had the opportunity.

These things can very well be fixed in her game, and when they are, WATCH OUT. Alexandra will be competing for slams, especially Wimbledon.

Messenger
Apr 21st, 2003, 10:03 PM
I wonder if Elena's win makes that OTHER famous Russian tennis player/model feel a little bit left out?

She'll feel even more left out in the likely case that Tatiana Panova wins one before her.

¤CharlDa¤
Apr 22nd, 2003, 12:41 AM
Yup Quebec city is played indoors!!! Alex really plays well here, she has a shot at it...But the draw can be tough for her! She really played well this year until she ran out of gas in the quarters!!!