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WrB
Apr 18th, 2003, 05:18 PM
As we come upon a Fed Cup weekend, I am reminded that Fed Cup availability (making oneself available to one's Fed Cup team in the two preceding years) has been the barometer for Olympic eligibilty. This may explain the Williams sisters entry into next week's Fed Cup tie. Assuming Olympic eligibility remains as in the past, I can see where the U.S. would, as of now, select the sisters for Olympic competition, and we could again be faced with the question of whether Lisa Raymond, four years ago the #1 doubles player on tour and now still the highest ranked US doubles payer, will be picked for the team. But another more intriguing thought comes to mind.

What if another very successful U.S. doubles player this season, one who has accumulated no fewer than 3 WTA Tour doubles titles this year, makes herself available for Fed Cup duty this year? Might we see Martina Navratilova participate in the Olympics (doubles) next year?

Just a thought, and perhaps a motivating factor for a woman who has accumulated at least one of each of the twelve open grand slam titles (singles, doubles, mixed) and who continues to play with passion.

She might even get picked ahead of a certain Floridian should Fed Captain King be Olympic team captain...


:p

calabar
Apr 18th, 2003, 05:47 PM
WrB,

This you can take to the bank. As long as the Williams Sisters are healthy, and are available, the will represent the US in SINGLES AND DOUBLES at the next Olympics. BJK made the right call in 2000 and to go with the Williams for doubles is the right call in 2004. Case closed.

SerenaSlam
Apr 18th, 2003, 06:14 PM
Martina, as good a doubles player she is, has never beaten the williams sisters, about like w/ lisa raymond, the number 1 doubles team in the world that tyme, by a long shot, but when it came time to play against venus/serena, i hardly ever remeber close sets, or them even winning sets.

Personally, i think, lisa would've been looking very stupid, if they would've decided, to have venus/serena play against lisa and like lindsay.

I think they would've lost just like at the us open 6-1 6-2. It really would've made Lisa look stupid. I can understand why she is made, "rankings wise she was at the top" but BJK, know the rankings are really fucked up, player wise, venus/serena are like 50 times better in doubles that lisa, and guess what, lisa knows more shots, and the game a lot more than lisa, that there shows you, they could only get better on the doubles court :)

Venus Forever
Apr 18th, 2003, 06:27 PM
Even if they asked Martina to play in the doubles, I don't think Martina would accept. She would most likely decline and leave it for the younger players.

GermanBoy
Apr 18th, 2003, 07:05 PM
As we come upon a Fed Cup weekend, I am reminded that Fed Cup availability (making oneself available to one's Fed Cup team in the two preceding years) has been the barometer for Olympic eligibilty. This may explain the Williams sisters entry into next week's Fed Cup tie.


This may explain? :confused: This explains!!! :rolleyes:

It`s a difficult situation for every US official, in this case Billie-Jean King, to announce the players who are picked to play at the Olympics. She has everything she needs, brilliant Singles players and great Doubles Teams, she has more than she needs. Serena, Venus, Lindsay, Jennifer and Monica in Singles and Lisa/Lindsay, Serena/Venus in Doubles.

All of these girls have done very well. Lindsay, Jennifer and Venus with their Gold medals in Singles and Venus/Serena in Doubles.

I personally would pick Lindsay, Jennifer and Monica in Singles and Lisa/Lindsay in Doubles. The Williams sisters have shown that they only play Fed Cup when they can take an advantage out of it. :rolleyes:

I hope, Billie-Jean King is able to take the decision on her own and is not be influenced by the Williams family. It would be a big and not repairable error if Billie-Jean King ignores Lisa again... :fiery:

Venus Forever
Apr 18th, 2003, 07:26 PM
I personally would pick Lindsay, Jennifer and Monica in Singles and Lisa/Lindsay in Doubles. The Williams Sisters have shown that they only play Fed Cup when they can take an advantage out of it. :rolleyes:

I hope, Billie-Jean King is able to take the decision on her own and is not be influenced by the Williams Family. It would be a big and not repairable error if Billie-Jean King ignores Lisa again... :fiery:

I fail to see what the Williams Sisters not playing often in Fed Cup has anything to do with the Olympics. They are two different organizations, and one is a lot more elite than the other. Fed Cup, let's just face it, is not that popular, and has never been. It's just not a big deal, you never hear anything in the papers besides a small blurb, and it is not on the television.

Oh, and the Williams only play when they can take advantage out of it. What are you kidding me?? So, they didn't play last year because they were afraid of the Austrians. Give me a break.:rolleyes: It's called scheduling and prior commitments.

Big mistake to ignore Lisa?? Why is that?? They Williams Sisters are the BEST doubles team in the world, better than Lindsay and Lisa, as evident in their 6-2 6-2 demolition of the two at Oz. They play fewer times, and still have more GS doubles titles then the two combined.

Oh, and I'm sure the Williams family has a big influence over BJK. Maybe it's because she realizes that they are two of the best players in the world, if not the greatest.

GermanBoy
Apr 18th, 2003, 07:34 PM
So, they didn't play last year because they were afraid of the Austrians.


Definitely! :rolleyes: Don`t forget Venus`losses to Schett and Schwarz at the French Open during the last years... :p :angel:

SerenaSlam
Apr 18th, 2003, 07:43 PM
Personally, (now yall know how i am), if i were too in venus/serena's posistion, and knowing that fed cup is coming up, and also knowing the fact that fed cup is sort of a requirement to play on the olympic team, if there is an opening in my schedule, im going to hop on board and play the muthafucka. I see no problem with this, but when it comes to venus and serena, the fact that they are so nice, loving, and not disrespectful in anyway, i don't not see where they would do something of this nature. But if they did? Where is the problem, b/c they are famous, people tend to make things bigger deals than what they are, when in everyday life, these type of situations happen about 100 times a day, people just taking advantage of things.

Some of you all really get worked up over BS. And I think, how the world is today, most of you would jump on the Fed Cup team, knowing its a requirement for the olympics and the olympics are coming up. The problem here is, why even bother complaining about it, when its going to keep being done, and its going to keep happening.

Messenger
Apr 18th, 2003, 07:54 PM
Definitely! :rolleyes: Don`t forget Venus`losses to Schett and Schwarz at the French Open during the last years... :p :angel:

Good point.

:)

Venus Forever
Apr 18th, 2003, 07:58 PM
Definitely! :rolleyes: Don`t forget Venus`losses to Schett and Schwarz at the French Open during the last years... :p :angel:

Those were two different Venus', she has since grown since then. Plus, even if they did beat Venus again (never gonna happen), that's only 2 matches out of 5. Still doesn't qualify as victory. :rolleyes:

SerenaSlam
Apr 18th, 2003, 08:06 PM
Those were two different Venus', she has since grown since then. Plus, even if they did beat Venus again (never gonna happen), that's only 2 matches out of 5. Still doesn't qualify as victory. :rolleyes:
remeber about this board, it doesn't matter if a player has improved and gotten to another level and better, if the loss was 10 years ago, its still can be considered a big factor in how they may perform :)

mn73
Apr 18th, 2003, 09:12 PM
I think Billie Jean will try and get as many people on the Olympic team as possible - so if she has Venus and Serena as singles players, which is likely, she will put forward another two for doubles - maybe Lindsay and Lisa.

SerenaSlam
Apr 18th, 2003, 10:00 PM
that is something i see her doing, i think she realizes that if she just has venus and serena (know doubt they would sweep the entire event w/ no tough matches) she should go on ahead and just add lindsay/lisa for doubles. But we could see something like, Serena, Lindsay in singels, and Serena/Venus for doubles.

The Funnie thing is, Serena/Venus can say, "if you don't enter us for both singels/doubles we don't play" that would be real bogus and BJK would be in a tough situtaion. But that would never happen.

CJ07
Apr 19th, 2003, 02:19 AM
BJK wants to win

V and Rena are a lock for doubles, Lindsay and Lisa are not
So we can expect to see V and Rena compete in both competitions

GermanBoy
Apr 19th, 2003, 11:41 AM
I think Billie Jean will try and get as many people on the Olympic team as possible


Does anybody know how many players are allowed to represent a country? I always thought 2 + 1 WC. That means: Serena, Venus and Jennifer or Lindsay. I think it depends on the size of the draw. In Sydney some countries (e. g. U.S.A.) had 3 players + 1 WC.

The best solution for us all may be Serena, Venus and Jennifer in Singles and Lindsay/Lisa in Doubles?! :confused: We also don`t know who will be fit and who hurt by the time of the Athens next year...

I don`t think BJK needs the Williams sisters in Doubles to win. Germany without Steffi and Huber, Spain without Arantxa, France without Nathalie Tauziat, Netherlands without Bollegraf, so which Doubles team do you expect to be able to beat a US-Team?

veryborednow
Apr 19th, 2003, 12:42 PM
You seriously think BJK will pick Jennifer to play in the Fed Cup again?
And if she did, would Jen play?

Therefore, I doubt Jen will be eligable for the olympics. Which is a shame :(

SerenaSlam
Apr 19th, 2003, 12:49 PM
i highly doubt she will be picking jennifer, and i highly doubt she even thinks Jen would do any good for Fed Cup. I think BJK realizes, that she can do just as well or even better with players like monica, lindsay, chanda, megan, hell they have shots, they are all playing well now, and to me its cappy that is on this slump (especially a title slump)

ptkten
Apr 19th, 2003, 02:32 PM
I don't know if any of these players are going to want to play on clay in the Olympics a couple of weeks before the start of the U.S. Open.

GermanBoy
Apr 19th, 2003, 02:43 PM
I don't know if any of these players are going to want to play on clay in the Olympics a couple of weeks before the start of the U.S. Open.

That was my question! ;) Didn`t they plan to change the surface to hardcourt?

i highly doubt she will be picking jennifer, and i highly doubt she even thinks Jen would do any good for Fed Cup. I think BJK realizes, that she can do just as well or even better with players like monica, lindsay, chanda, megan, hell they have shots, they are all playing well now, and to me its cappy that is on this slump (especially a title slump)

Don`t forget that even BJK has to keep the rankings in mind. She can`t pick players just for fun or because she likes them more. :p

SJW
Apr 19th, 2003, 02:55 PM
the W/S and one other player will be playing at the olympics in 04

the W/S will be playing singles and doubles, and so i think BJK should pick the next two highest ranked singles, although one wont be playing