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tenn_ace
Apr 17th, 2003, 01:46 AM
obviously she is in a slump, but to lose to a 14-year old junior (Vika Kutuzova) and be bageled is certainly something... :sad:

was she injured? was she drinking an orange juice too much? has she hired an idiot to be her coach? :rolleyes:

any info? :o

Gowza
Apr 17th, 2003, 01:54 AM
kutuzova is a great young player and the junior tour is getting closer and closer to the standard of the wta tour. kutuzova the '14yr old" is in the junior top 10 ahead of golovin and golovin just turned 15 and has been beating players in tier 1's or challenging then if not beating them.

Venus Forever
Apr 17th, 2003, 01:57 AM
I just hate seeing Lilia like this. She was playing great over a year ago, and is just in a terrible slump now.

Hopefully she breaks out of it soon.

Candy946
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:05 AM
What tournament did they play in?

Gowza
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:06 AM
i don't mind people feeling bad about her but i don't think it is necessary for everyone to keep relating to the fact that her opponent was a 14 year old. by doing that you aren't giving the credit to the young player. it sounds like you're saying because kutuzova is 14 then she is crap and lila shouldn't have lost to her. kutuzova is a good player and doing something like this at such a young age shows that she has talent.

tenn_ace
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:15 AM
cowza, I disagree about junior level becoming closer to the WTA level...

Besides, it was Vika's first pro-tournament (!) and she delivers a bagel to a player with lot of experience, formely #41 in the world (not so long ago) and wins over some good players. you're saying nothing really outstanding in that loss? :confused:

tenn_ace
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:16 AM
What tournament did they play in?

Jackson, $25k

Gowza
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:16 AM
i'm not saying lila's form wasn't a factor but i don't know why you have to mention the fact that she lost to a 14 year old?

Gowza
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:17 AM
why not just say a junior playing in their first event?

tenn_ace
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:17 AM
why not just say a junior playing in their first event?

what would change? :rolleyes:

Leena
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:18 AM
Gowza, look at this realistically.. a 14-year-old little girl beating a 20+ year-old in anything is rather discouraging.

I thought she was playing a little better lately too... I remember she won a couple matches. :p

Gowza
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:28 AM
tenn_ace, the difference is that you wouldn't be referring to age. if it was someone like sharapova would you mention their age? have you heard of kutuzova before?

Leena, i'm not saying it wouldn't be discouraging for lila.

tenn_ace
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:34 AM
tenn_ace, the difference is that you wouldn't be referring to age. if it was someone like sharapova would you mention their age? have you heard of kutuzova before?




you gotta be kidding me... have I heard of her before??? do you want me to tell you what her biggest wins were this year?

and I'm refferring to her age because it's her asset... especially when she beats 20+ player

Gowza
Apr 17th, 2003, 02:36 AM
tenn_ace, well it sounded like you were using her age to make her sound less of a player than she is. it's all worked out now, now worries. we kewl?

rated_next
Apr 17th, 2003, 03:15 AM
I saw her in Montreal last year, and she looked terrible - slow, lack of fitness, inconsistent, etc.

tenn_ace
Apr 17th, 2003, 03:41 AM
tenn_ace, well it sounded like you were using her age to make her sound less of a player than she is. it's all worked out now, now worries. we kewl?

peace :wavey:

BK4ever
Apr 17th, 2003, 04:35 AM
I saw her in Montreal last year, and she looked terrible - slow, lack of fitness, inconsistent, etc.

That pretty much describes Lilia, at least when I saw her this summer. She supposedly has been working really hard, this was her first tourney in a while, so maybe she struggled to find her rhythm...

Lilia's time in the USTA Training program expired sometime last year and she has struggled since. I know a guy who worked with her for a while and he said that Lilia was not fully committed.

He said she was very out of shape...

I hope that has changed...

I have some other info but I like her too much to spread her business here ;)