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saphir1
Apr 16th, 2003, 08:30 AM
HI there!

I hope this hasn't been posted before. I just read German newspaper (not BILD, but "Berliner Morgenpost" :wavey: ) and it says that Venus will play Berlin instead of Serena. That's a quote by the tournament director.

Die German Open der Tennis-Damen vom 5. bis 11. Mai beim LTTC Rot-Weiß in Berlin finden ohne Serena Williams statt. Zwei Tage nach ihrer ersten Saisonniederlage sagte die Weltranglistenerste aus den USA gestern ihre Teilnahme an dem mit 1,224 Millionen Dollar dotierten Sandplatzturnier der höchsten Kategorie nach den Grand-Slam-Wettbewerben ab. "Für Serena kommt nun Venus nach Berlin. Aber die jüngere der Williams-Schwestern hätte ich schon lieber gehabt", sagte Turnierdirektor Eberhard Wensky. Venus Williams rückt nun an Position drei der Setzliste.

"Nachdem ich 2003 schon so viele Matches gespielt habe, möchte ich vor der Saison in Europa eine Woche länger frei nehmen", teilte die Siegerin der letzten vier Grand-Slam-Turniere der Spielerinnen-Vereinigung WTA mit.

Ein Grund könnten Serena Williams' schlechte Erinnerungen an Berlin sein. Im Vorjahr unterlag sie im Endspiel Justine Henin-Hardenne. Die in Berlin nun hinter ihrer Landsfrau Kim Clijsters an Nummer zwei gesetzte Belgierin war es auch, die am vergangenen Sonntag in Charleston die 21 Spiele währende Siegesserie der besten Tennisspielerin der Welt beendete.

malaye
Apr 16th, 2003, 09:30 AM
Thanks for the info, and no, it hasn't been posted before. Only some speculations that Venus could take Serena's place in the draw.
Well, it looks like Venus is getting after that n° 2 spot after all !
Now, the question is : is she going to withdraw from Rome ?

1jackson2001
Apr 16th, 2003, 09:34 AM
Good news!...only if she still keeps Rome on her schedule of course!

King Lindsay
Apr 16th, 2003, 09:45 AM
If this is true, I'd bet my life she does not play Rome.

1jackson2001
Apr 16th, 2003, 09:47 AM
You're so willing to bet your life..interesting

Picol
Apr 16th, 2003, 09:53 AM
In a certain other field of Occupation, they call this "Compliance" and one would be arrested for being a willing part of it :p

I wonder who they would arrest?

Chance
Apr 16th, 2003, 09:58 AM
if this is true and if Venus does well both in Poland and Germany then I hope she doesn't play Rome
but then again the no.2 seed is still up for grabs... hmmmm What should Venus do???

:confused:

SpikeyAidanm
Apr 16th, 2003, 10:01 AM
I thought Venus wasn't playing until Wimbledon :confused:

King Lindsay
Apr 16th, 2003, 10:03 AM
I thought Venus wasn't playing until Wimbledon :confused:

How on Earth did you get that idea?

saphir1
Apr 16th, 2003, 10:13 AM
HI!

It is confirmed! venus will play for Serena! See either www.gotennis.de or www.dtb-tennis.de (news)

bye,
saphir1

Picol
Apr 16th, 2003, 10:23 AM
It certainly is not hard to look at all this and question things.

One player doesn't need points.
One player is in trouble of being seeded 3 at the French
They both avoid playing tournaments as much as possible
One withdraws
The other enters

Call me cynical.....

malaye
Apr 16th, 2003, 10:26 AM
You are a cynical, Picol.
And you should stop smoking ;)

Mateo Mathieu
Apr 16th, 2003, 10:57 AM
I thought Venus wasn't playing until Wimbledon :confused:
LMAO! Someone fooled you on 1st April! :rolleyes:

CanadianBoy21
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:11 PM
I love the Williamses because of that...
they do circles around the WTA and make them look stupid...
they win something like 90% of tournies they play when their is onl one of them

GO VENUS
GO SERENA

CJ07
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:17 PM
what did i say? what did i say?

she'll play rome if healthy
she loves that tournament

Picol
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:25 PM
I love the Williamses because of that...
they do circles around the WTA and make them look stupid...
they win something like 90% of tournies they play when their is onl one of them

GO VENUS
GO SERENA

You know what they say about playing around with the hand that feeds you.

Pureracket
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:26 PM
Rough translation:


The German open of the tennis ladies from 5 to 11 May with the LTTC red white in Berlin take place without Serena Williams. The world rank list first from the USA its participation in the sand place tournament of the highest category endowed with 1.224 million dollar called two days off after its first season defeat yesterday after the Grand Slam competitions. "for Serena now Venus comes to Berlin. But I would have had, said the younger of the Williams sisters already rather "director of tournament Eberhard Wensky. Venus Williams moves now at position three of the setting list. "after I played already 2003 so many Matches, would like I the season ago in Europe one week longer freely to take", communicated the Siegerin of the last four Grand Slam tournaments of the player interior combination WTA. A reason Serena Williams ' bad memories of Berlin could be. In the previous year it was subject to Justine Henin Hardenne in the final game. The Belgian set in Berlin now behind her land woman Kim Clijsters at number two was it also, on past Sunday the victory series of the best Tennisspielerin of the world lasting in Charleston the 21 plays terminated.

CJ07
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:28 PM
did they say they'd rather have Serena?????
they dont like Venus?!??!

Calvin
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:38 PM
good on Venus, this is what she should do to retain the no 2 spot :bounce:



however: if anyone still proclaims that the Williams sisters (and Clijsters as well) don't care sh*t about the rankings, they're only fooling themselves. every player cares about their ranking, they just don't say it out loud :rolleyes:

Smart
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:46 PM
:(

SerenaSlam
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:49 PM
:(
what is the matter? are you mad that Kim is going to have to actually earn number 2 now? i know i know, the rankings aren't supposed to be like this. you are supposed to loose but play a lot and earn your ranking :), not win and play avergae

servenrichie
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:52 PM
Here is the original piece on the DTB board:
16/04/03

Serena sagt ab – Venus kommt

Berlin - Die großen Erfolge der letzten Monate haben Spuren hinterlassen. Aus diesem Grunde sieht sich die Weltranglisten-Erste Serena Williams gezwungen, eine Turnierpause einzulegen, um sich für die kommenden Aufgaben zu regenerieren. Am gestrigen Abend teilte sie Turnierdirektor Eberhard Wensky ihre Entscheidung mit, wegen körperlicher Erschöpfung nicht an den MasterCard German Open vom 5. bis 11. Mai 2003 auf der Anlage des LTTC „Rot-Weiß“ teilzunehmen.

Gleichzeitig mit der Absage erhielt Wensky die Zusage ihrer älteren Schwester Venus. Die 22-jährige Amerikanerin hatte lange Zeit Platz eins auf der WTA Tour Weltrangliste inne, bevor sie im vergangenen Jahr von ihrer Schwester abgelöst wurde. „Die Absage von Serena ist natürlich schade, da sie auf jeden Fall versuchen wollte, in diesem Jahr erstmals den Titel bei den MasterCard German Open zu gewinnen. Wir freuen uns aber, dass ihre Schwester Venus an die Spree kommt. Sie spielt ebenfalls ein äußerst attraktives Tennis und ist mit ihrer Leistung ihrer jüngeren Schwester fast gleich zu stellen. Wie sie immer wieder betonte, will sie unbedingt versuchen, Serena wieder auf Platz eins der Weltrangliste abzulösen“, äußerte sich Wensky zum überraschenden Wechsel.
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Without bothering to translate here, since there is nothing new, nowhere did the director say he would have prefered Serena to Venus.
What a world!, By this time last year Venus was the hottest commodity in town :(

Cariaoke
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:53 PM
Alright Venus! :kiss: :bounce: Give 'em hell!

Iconoclast
Apr 16th, 2003, 01:58 PM
Without bothering to translate here, since there is nothing new, nowhere did the director say he would have prefered Serena to Venus.
He did actually say he would have preferred Serena. Not in the press release, but to the Berliner Morgenpost:

"Aber die jüngere der Williams-Schwestern hätte ich schon lieber gehabt", sagte Turnierdirektor Eberhard Wensky.
But, you are right, things change quickly. A year ago, it was the opposite. But I really can't blame him for wanting the holder of the last 4 Slams to appear in his tournament rather than the finalist. Although I'm sure it eased some of the pain that Venus will show up instead.

Picol
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:02 PM
what is the matter? are you mad that Kim is going to have to actually earn number 2 now? i know i know, the rankings aren't supposed to be like this. you are supposed to loose but play a lot and earn your ranking :), not win and play avergae

Wow, you garner all that from smarts post.

I am excited, tell me what does the "Finger" mean?

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:12 PM
You know what they say about playing around with the hand that feeds you.
The tour does not feed them. THEY WORK FOR WHAT THEY HAVE. Does the tour go out and give money away to all the players? Please. Atheletes earn every penny they make.

Cybelle Darkholme
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:14 PM
good on Venus, this is what she should do to retain the no 2 spot :bounce:



however: if anyone still proclaims that the Williams sisters (and Clijsters as well) don't care sh*t about the rankings, they're only fooling themselves. every player cares about their ranking, they just don't say it out loud :rolleyes:


I disagree. If she cared all that much then why didn't she play more when she first won wimbledon and the us open? She could have had a full fledge assault on the fall circuit instead of one or two tournaments.

lala
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:17 PM
It certainly is not hard to look at all this and question things.

One player doesn't need points.
One player is in trouble of being seeded 3 at the French
They both avoid playing tournaments as much as possible
One withdraws
The other enters

Call me cynical.....
I would have thought this has to do with the WTA's commitment to the tier 1 events and the amount of gold exempt players rather than rank chasing

starr
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:19 PM
That was a HORRIBLE machine translation. Here's a translation of the DTB site's release. A native speaker might want to correct me on some of it. And I would be delighted. I always have niggling questions.

Serena withdraws – Venus comes

Berlin - the great success of the last months has taken a toll. For this reason, it appears that the world ranked number one Serena Williams was obliged to take on a pause in tournaments, and to reneg on her upcomming commitment. Yesterday evening the Tournament director Eberhard Wensky communicated her decision that because of bodily exhaustion she would not' take part in the MasterCard German Open from vom 5. bis 11. Mai 2003 at the LTTC „Red-White“

At the same time of the withdrawal, Wensky said the acceptance of her older sister Venus appeared. The 22-jährige Amerikanerin had long held first place on the WtA Tour before she lost it last year to her sister. "The witrawal from Serena is naturally sad because she wanted on any account to win the MasterCard German Open title. However, we are happy that her sister Venus is coming to the Spree (fun?) She likewise plays exceptionally atractive Tennis and with her results is almost an exact replacement. As she always emphasizes, she absolutely wants to seek to replace Serena as the world number one," said Wensky about the surprising change.

Infiniti2001
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:24 PM
Ahh, good for Venus :)

Venus consolation for Berlin as Serena pulls out


BERLIN, April 16 (Reuters) - Venus Williams confirmed she would be taking part in next month's German Open despite her younger sister Serena pulling out of the tournament.

The WTA Tour announced late on Tuesday that world number one Serena had pulled out of the $1.24 million Berlin tournament, which begins on May 5, to rest and prepare for the rest of the European season.

"Well, at least her sister Venus will be coming," a spokeswoman for the German Open said.

She said tournament director Eberhard Wensky learned of Serena's withdrawal on Tuesday evening but heard of the confirmation of world number three Venus at the same time.

"We naturally would have loved to have had Serena, but it can't be," the spokeswoman said.

Serena's decision to skip the Berlin event means the 21-year-old's next scheduled event is the $1.3 million Telecom Italia Masters, beginning on May 12, in Rome, Italy.

"After playing so many matches at the beginning of 2003, I have decided to take an additional week off to prepare for the European season," said Serena, who holds all four grand slam titles.

She reached the final in Berlin last year but lost in three sets to Belgium's Justine Henin-Hardenne, who will play in next month's tournament.

Williams also lost to Henin-Hardenne in the final of Charleston's Family Circle Cup last weekend -- the first defeat of the year for the American.

The Berlin event now has confirmation from seven of the women's top 10 players.



04/16/03 04:56 ET

VSFan1 aka Joshua L.
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:57 PM
I am 99% sure Venus will withdraw from Rome too..but that surprises me as she loves Rome.

If she would play all 3...that would be awesome!

So now that Venus is playing Warsaw and Berlin, that covers her 2 events for Gold Exempt.

Serena has played Gaz de France. She still has to pick up one more event....probably Stanford.

GogoGirl
Apr 16th, 2003, 02:58 PM
http://www.bday.co.za/bday/content/direct/1,3523,1328338-6078-0,00.html


Venus steps in for Serena

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BERLIN - Venus Williams will fill in for her younger sister Serena at next month's WTA Berlin Open, organisers announced today.
World number 1 Serena announced she was pulling out of the event so as to recharge her batteries in time for the French Open and Wimbledon.

Her decision was made after suffering her first defeat of the season in Sunday's Charleston Open final which she lost in straight sets to Belgian Justine Henin-Hardenne.

Berlin were evidently thrilled to have found such a high profile replacement.

"We're delighted that Venus can make it. She too plays very seductive tennis and in terms of performances she's almost on a par with her sister," said event spokesman Eberhard Wensky.

Serena, explaining her absence, said she wanted to take a week off to prepare herself "mentally and physically" for the summer's key tournaments in Paris and London.

AFP

Havok
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:02 PM
phew, so Venus actually does have a brain inside that head of hers.

cheeky
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:03 PM
phew, so Venus actually does have a brain inside that head of hers.
and you said this because??? :confused: :confused: :confused:

Chance
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:10 PM
according to Naldo, playing 30 tournaments shows how intelligent you are ;)

:p

starr
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:24 PM
So much for Venus' excuse to the Dubai folks. :)

DEETHELICK
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:42 PM
I gota agree with Picol, I'm cynical too.

I think Serena stepped down to give Venus a shot at No. 2. Nothing wrong with that, now the race is on between Kim and Venus :)

This also backs up what Jen had to say last year regarding the sisters' careful planning regarding schedules. Maybe Jen knew something we all didn't? ;)

Infiniti2001
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:47 PM
I gota agree with Picol, I'm cynical too.

I think Serena stepped down to give Venus a shot at No. 2. Nothing wrong with that, now the race is on between Kim and Venus :)

This also backs up what Jen had to say last year regarding the sisters' careful planning regarding schedules. Maybe Jen knew something we all didn't? ;)


::::yawns mercilessly::::

starr
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:48 PM
I think Jen knows the same thing that we all know.

:)

Chance
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:50 PM
I guess you don't know much ;)

DEETHELICK
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:52 PM
Hehehehe....I like your answer Starr! :)

The real question is: What do we all know??

Sorry if my post bored you Infiniti2001, it was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek and non-derogatory :)

Infiniti2001
Apr 16th, 2003, 03:56 PM
Hehehehe....I like your answer Starr! :)

The real question is: What do we all know??

Sorry if my post bored you Infiniti2001, it was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek and non-derogatory :)


No need for an apology everyone is entitled to post their opinion :p

PhoenixStorm
Apr 16th, 2003, 05:17 PM
according to Naldo, playing 30 tournaments shows how intelligent you are ;)

:p

LOL so true! I guess if you go out in the first and second round so much you need about 30 tournaments to stay in the top ten...whoops so much for that.

Venus Forever
Apr 16th, 2003, 06:42 PM
PRAISE THE LAWD!!!

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

WIN ALL FOUR, VENUS!! WARSAW, BERLIN, AND ROME, THEN ON TO PARIS!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

vs1
Apr 16th, 2003, 07:09 PM
Venus and Serena can play at any tournament they decide to play in! There's no rule stating that sisters need to play in the same tournies. And the rankings only include 17 tourneys...so what if they only play in a handful of them together?! Part of being a champion is planning to be on top! I give them credit for planning carefully and taking care of business. There's no rule against planning. In fact, others on the tour could probably learn from Venus and Serena so that they don't have to play tourneys until their arms fall off...but then again, those who play like crazy usually don't get very far on a consistent basis...so maybe they don't even play as many matches as Venus or Serena.

Good for V&S. May their planning enable them to stay on top and dominate!!! :D :D :D

persond
Apr 16th, 2003, 07:40 PM
I think Jen knows the same thing that we all know.

:)

:cool: And, the Williamses KNOW you all can "Kizz" their "azzes"!!! :p :p They "OWE" you absolutely "Phucking NOTHING"!!!

It is their "right" to play when and where ever they choose, as long as they fulfill their obligations to the WTA. And, choosing to not play the same events, except for the slams, is also entirely their choice. I bet they'll lose a lot of sleep over the fact that "you" object to their scheduling of events!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: And, as far as Jenn is concerned, she should concentrate on her own schedule and how her game is progressing and not worry so much about the Sisters.

The "audaciousness" of you people is not to be believed!!!

harloo
Apr 16th, 2003, 08:41 PM
That's it Venus baby!!!!!!!! Come back and give em hell!!!!!! LOL

I hope she's up and running and ready to shut the cynics up!!!!

:D

SJW
Apr 16th, 2003, 10:08 PM
alright Venus :)

good luck in the tournament :)

Serena, are you still licking ur wounds baby?? ;)

vs1
Apr 16th, 2003, 11:16 PM
:cool: And, the Williamses KNOW you all can "Kizz" their "azzes"!!! :p :p They "OWE" you absolutely "Phucking NOTHING"!!!

It is their "right" to play when and where ever they choose, as long as they fulfill their obligations to the WTA. And, choosing to not play the same events, except for the slams, is also entirely their choice. I bet they'll lose a lot of sleep over the fact that "you" object to their scheduling of events!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: And, as far as Jenn is concerned, she should concentrate on her own schedule and how her game is progressing and not worry so much about the Sisters.

The "audaciousness" of you people is not to be believed!!!

AMEN!!! :angel:

anton
Apr 16th, 2003, 11:29 PM
PRAISE THE LAWD!!!

:bounce::bounce::bounce:

WIN ALL FOUR, VENUS!! WARSAW, BERLIN, AND ROME, THEN ON TO PARIS!! :bounce::bounce::bounce:

GO VENUS!! :D

CJ07
Apr 16th, 2003, 11:55 PM
Lets go V!

Dawn Marie
Apr 17th, 2003, 12:05 AM
And, the Williamses KNOW you all can "Kizz" their "azzes"!!! They "OWE" you absolutely "Phucking NOTHING"!!!

It is their "right" to play when and where ever they choose, as long as they fulfill their obligations to the WTA. And, choosing to not play the same events, except for the slams, is also entirely their choice. I bet they'll lose a lot of sleep over the fact that "you" object to their scheduling of events!!! And, as far as Jenn is concerned, she should concentrate on her own schedule and how her game is progressing and not worry so much about the Sisters.

The "audaciousness" of you people is not to be believed!!!


Amen, you tell em!! HA HA HA it's just SOUR GRAPES and they don't know what to do cause they can't CONTROL VENUS or SERENA! HA HA HA!

One more thing why is it okay to play to the rankings by playing 30 tourneys but suddenly a bad bad thing when V@S play to their's?

Yuo=MORONS!

Dawn Marie
Apr 17th, 2003, 12:08 AM
By the way, this weeks's tennis magazine, talks about JEN,HINGIS and DAVENPORT. Those characters and the article was HILARIOUS!!

A must read!!!!

servenrichie
Apr 17th, 2003, 12:07 PM
Blah, blah, blah! if a player withdraws the decision is respected. If Serena withdraws, then she is colluding with her sister to play the rankings.

BTW, has it occured to you guys that Clijsters went out of the way, to give Henin the chance to become number 3 :rolleyes: Henin cant beat Kim, even if her life depends on it :p

SJW
Apr 17th, 2003, 12:11 PM
LOLOL too true

but havent there always been double standards circulating the tour as far as the W/S are concerned? :confused:

sometimes u just have to laugh :)

bilbo
Apr 17th, 2003, 12:53 PM
Yohoo :bounce:
I think she has to play in Berlin instead her sister because in Roland Garros, no williams will face each other before in the final assuming she 's still no.3 in the world
Let's take the second seed back from Kimmy :bounce: and your younger sister too :wavey: