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The Crow
Mar 27th, 2003, 09:48 AM
If I'm not mistaken, Juju's clay season starts now after the loss against Chanda, right?

Does anyone know how many points she has to defend in the clay season? I know it's a lot, but does anyone know the numbers. Any chance she's gonna lose the number 4 seeding at Roland Garros?
And what's her schedule in this clay season?

Mar 27th, 2003, 12:17 PM
Baush & Lomb Championships,Amelia Island Plantation, Florida, United States
--> final (tier II) 221.00
Betty Barclay Cup,Hamburg, Germany
--> QF (tier II) 59.00
Eurocard Ladies German Open 2002,Berlin, Germany
--> WON (tier I) 433.00
Tennis Master Series Roma,Rome, Italy
--> final (tier I) 301.00
Roland Garros,Paris, France
--> 1st round (GS) 2.00

Mar 27th, 2003, 12:18 PM
Amelia Island

The Crow
Mar 27th, 2003, 12:37 PM
Thanks K :D So it's Hamburg (not organised anymore) replaced by Charleston in her schedule. Her points from the Berlin-Rome weeks :eek: :eek:

Go Justine!

Mar 27th, 2003, 01:22 PM
Only 2 points at RG :D I'm optimistic ...

Mar 27th, 2003, 01:42 PM
C'mon Justine...show us why you're one of the better (even the best ;) ) clay-courter!!!!!!!!!!! You rock on clay! :bounce:

Mar 28th, 2003, 04:56 AM
OMG it's nearly 1000 points to defend :eek: :eek:
Hope Justine can defend it successfully.

Mar 28th, 2003, 10:38 AM
good luck justine! defend all those points :bounce:

Mar 28th, 2003, 05:32 PM
Good luck clayqueen Justine!! :worship:

Mar 29th, 2003, 12:32 AM
I don't think that Justine will lose her 4th seed for RG, she willbe seede four there. In fact going into Berlin she could be as close as 200 or so points behind Kim or even closer as Kim isn't defedning 361 in Hamburg or playing AMeilia is or Charelston. So Justine will close in significantly over the next month. SO who knows if hse puts together a clay season like last year, she may just be the 3 seed at Roland Garros

Mar 29th, 2003, 07:27 PM
She WILL win AI ;)


Apr 6th, 2003, 07:36 AM
GO JUJU! *to top this thread*

The Crow
Apr 14th, 2003, 04:30 PM
Dunno how much points she gained with her Charleston win, but let's say the big Berlin points of last year are more or less defended :D

Apr 14th, 2003, 08:06 PM
Go Juju! Win Rome and Roland Garros!!!! :D

Apr 15th, 2003, 03:55 AM
Justine earned 420 points for winning Charleston, but since she had 221 to defend from Amelia Island last year, she only gained 209, a little less than half of her total from Berlin. She has to defend 734 points from Rome and Berlin, plus 59 points from Hamburg.
An interesting note: right now, Hamburg is Justine's 17th highest point total, so if she can earn more than 59 points at Amelia Island this year (She has to reach the quarterfinals at AI without facing the lowest ranked player in her section of the draw for that to happen.), those Hamburg points will no longer count towards her total.
If she wins Amelia Island, she can gain as many as 342 points. With that plus the points she gained from Charleston (209), she would have gained 551 points, meaning she will need to earn 183 points in Rome and Berlin to defend all of last year's points (551+183=731). That would pretty much mean reaching the quarterfinals of one and the semis of the other, which is extremely doable for her. (It's also possible that she could earn 183 points by reaching the quarterfinals of both events, depending on the strength of the draw)
If she can defend those points (and I think she can, especially after she beat Serena the way she did), and win Amelia Island, she will have (roughly) 4184 points, which (right now) would be 371 points out of third place and 401 points out of second.

Note: Kim currently has 4585 points, but subtract the 361 points she earned in Hamburg, and she would have 4224. If Justine wins Amelia Island, playing the highest ranked players she can face, she will have 4184 (If I did my math right.). That means that coming into Berlin, they will be within 40 points of each other. Kim can gain points, though, because I think she lost in the second round there last year, but they could be within a couple hundred points of each other going into Roland Garros.

Another note: I noticed that some people in General Messages were concerned about Justine's schedule. If she wins Amelia Island and reaches the semifinals of Berlin (depending on quality points), she could withdraw from Rome if she wanted to be extra fresh for Roland Garros, and she wouldn't drop below her current points total (I don't think so, anyway).

So what do all of these numbers mean? It all means that Justine has a decent chance of being ranked second going into Wimbledon this year. She's very confident, and if she can stay healthy and keep her level of play up, she can get there without too much trouble, and without many points to defend during the U.S. hard court season, she could hang onto that ranking for a while. I hope she does it.

Apr 15th, 2003, 04:22 AM
pfff....her schedule is fine...she played Berlin/Rome back-to-back last year and AI too...and she was fine in all thsoe tournaments (note RG was an ILLNESS nto fatigue)

Apr 15th, 2003, 04:38 AM
pfff....her schedule is fine...she played Berlin/Rome back-to-back last year and AI too...and she was fine in all thsoe tournaments (note RG was an ILLNESS nto fatigue)

I think her schedule is fine, too, but some people don't think she can handle it.
She was sick at Roland Garros, but if I understood right, her illness was a relapse of an infection she had in Hamburg last year. That could be interpreted as being fatigue-related.
If Justine is having any health problems this spring, though, and she wins Amelia Island in the way I mentioned in my above post, and she reaches the semifinals of Berlin, she won't necessarily have to play Rome to stay in the 3800-3900 point range.
If she wins Amelia Island and reaches the semis of Berlin, she will have to reach the quarterfinals of Rome to be in the 4000-4100 point range. (Once again, this is if I did my math right).

Apr 15th, 2003, 12:23 PM
don't forget that Justine stopped playing doubles in the normal tournaments..

The Crow
Apr 15th, 2003, 12:46 PM
Thanks caseyl45 for the detailed info :D

I meant: she has to defend (roughly) from the clay-season last year: 1 Tier I win, 1 Tier 1 final, 1 Tier 2 final and 1 Tier 2 QF. So with Charleston win, the tier I win is defended. So she has to defend a tier 1 and tier 2 final (and a tier 2 QF).