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Volcana
Mar 19th, 2003, 08:28 PM
German subjects.

And now back to tennis.

Predict which of the top sixteen seeds will exit the tournament with a ranking at least two places higher her ranking on day 1 of the tournament? (Subtract the 2002 Miami points first)

BigTennisFan
Mar 19th, 2003, 08:31 PM
:D Naughty, Naughty :D :devil:

WtaTour4Ever
Mar 19th, 2003, 08:32 PM
lol too funny

Master Lu
Mar 19th, 2003, 08:40 PM
Umm, and what would the Americans be without the French military?

An English colony.


edit: I just saw the other post. Guess we're on the same page, after all. ;)

BigTennisFan
Mar 19th, 2003, 08:41 PM
I say that the next time some hostilities start in Europe (and you know they will) leave the US out of it. Call France. Let them handle it. :)

irma
Mar 19th, 2003, 08:41 PM
what would the usa be when europeans wouldn't have had a need to explore the world

columbus subjects


come on kim in miami!

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2003, 08:56 PM
BigTennisFan - You obviously missed the parallel thread to this one. Without France, there wouldn't BE a United States. Without the United States, there might not be a France. What all this French bashing mostly shows is an ignorance of history. The French dragged us (not exactly kicking and screaming) into Vietnam. Big mistake. Now they're suggesting that a more circumspect approach, should we not remember that 50,000 American, and four MILLION Vietnamese lives were lost by choosing war when peace was still possible.

Principled dissent when you think a friend is on the wrong track is a responsibility. If my friend is drunk, should I not try to get her car keys? If she won't give them up, should I get in the car with her?

And I'm picking Elena Bovina to move up two spots.

ys
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:00 PM
German subjects.

Wrong... They would be Soviet subjects..

And as to your question, That will be Dementieva..:)

BigTennisFan
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:02 PM
BigTennisFan - You obviously missed the parallel thread to this one. Without France, there wouldn't BE a United States. Without the United States, there might not be a France. What all this French bashing mostly shows is an ignorance of history. The French dragged us (not exactly kicking and screaming) into Vietnam. Big mistake. Now they're suggesting that a more circumspect approach, should we not remember that 50,000 American, and four MILLION Vietnamese lives were lost by choosing war when peace was still possible.

Principled dissent when you think a friend is on the wrong track is a responsibility. If my friend is drunk, should I not try to get her car keys? If she won't give them up, should I get in the car with her?

And I'm picking Elena Bovina to move up two spots.

Your'e right, Volcana. I did miss it initially. But my point still holds. I want the US to stay out of everything.
Just because we have freedom here, why should we risk our lives and fortune to overthrow tyrants so that others can have it? It's not our responsibilty. Also what would they do with liberty and freedom? See? It just doesn't pay to get involved.

After all, since you can't overthrow everyone, who are we to pick and choose who should stay and who should go? :devil:

Saddam can't be that bad for Iraq. After all didn't he just get something like 99.9999% of the vote in their last election? :angel:

ys
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:04 PM
The French dragged us (not exactly kicking and screaming) into Vietnam. Big mistake. Now they're suggesting that a more circumspect approach, should we not remember that 50,000 American, and four MILLION Vietnamese lives were lost by choosing war when peace was still possible.

Principled dissent when you think a friend is on the wrong track is a responsibility. If my friend is drunk, should I not try to get her car keys? If she won't give them up, should I get in the car with her?


The French once managed to avoid what could have been a little war against another bastard with mustaches back in 1938, they got another war less than two years later instead , and it costed mankind almost 50 millions of lives. The problem should be tackled as early as possible, before it grows into catastrophy..

griffin
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:14 PM
ys, when Hussein tries to roll over another country (as he did in Kuwait) I'll agree with you. Until then, the Hitler analogy doesn't hold water.

*looking to see who loses what points this week*

Myskina Lina
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:17 PM
I don't think ys is saying he's hitler, it sounds like ys is saying....

If you let a problem sit there, it will only get bigger & bigger, & someday you will be sorry.

war or not, it's good to deal with it.

Cybelle Darkholme
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:18 PM
German subjects.

And now back to tennis.

Predict which of the top sixteen seeds will exit the tournament with a ranking at least two places higher her ranking on day 1 of the tournament? (Subtract the 2002 Miami points first)


And what would the Americans be without the French? British subjects. :wavey:
aw someone beat me to the punch...oh well.

ys
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:20 PM
And what would the Americans be without the French? British subjects.

Not entirely correct again.. Those living in Alaska would be proud Russian subjects..

graf630
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:24 PM
No politics here! :) As far as movement,I agree with Volcana on Bovina,and ys on Dementieva.But I look for Shaughnessy and Zvonareva to move up also.Bartoli looks like she will move up too.My first choice was Schiavone but she is unlikely to make it past the next round. :sad:

King Lindsay
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:24 PM
now how the hell did this completely tennis-immersed thread turn political???? i just have no idea what could've incited such a debate in this thread so clearly about women's tennis!

griffin
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:29 PM
Momo has a good shot at moving if her various body parts hold up, but I don't think BOTH Lins and JenCap will stumble badly enough for her to jump two spots.

I can hope, though :D

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:49 PM
King Lindsay - I'm actually rather impressed with our ability to hold parallel conversatons.