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Gowza
Mar 18th, 2003, 11:11 AM
which one currently in the top 100 will be the best? most of them have different games. e.g. harkleroad with her speed, zvonareva with her angles and spins, bartoli with her double-handed shots.

who do youy think will go the furthest in the game and why (don't just say because they are more talented, actually talk about the aspects of their game and how they currently are or how they can be developed and how this will make them a better player than the others)?

so who is it:

zvonareva
mikaelian
kuznetsova
casanova
widjaja
krasnoroutskaya
safina
bartoli
cohen aloro
harkleroad (come on she is just outside the top 100 and has been in there for more than a week)

SM
Mar 18th, 2003, 01:31 PM
I havent seen many of those players on tv before, but i would definately put my money on the russians for starters...probably Zvonareva cos she definately seemed able to match Kim at last years US Open and played very well considering she lacked experience. Plenty of power too :) not just nice angles and spins.

switz
Mar 18th, 2003, 01:59 PM
if melanie stays myriam's coach i think she is destined for big things. with her inherent power and the right tutelage i believe she will go far. i mean she already has the game, she just needs some weight loss. although i fear players losing too much weight, as i think patty suffered from the side-effects (i am not ignoring the other significant factors ie guru's, criminals and insane parents)

Gowza
Mar 18th, 2003, 10:31 PM
i haven't seen much of angie or lina and never cohen aloro or harkleroad. i've just heard things like cohen aloro hits so hard and harkleroad has so much speed.so people say harkleroad hits hard while others say she has power but not that much.

i wanted to get a feel for these young players games so in the future when i see them play i'll see their progress and development.

GBFH
Mar 18th, 2003, 10:33 PM
Safina...because I want her to...does that count? :)

K155-k155
Mar 18th, 2003, 11:14 PM
I saw Angelique Widjaja played an Exhibition Match againts Wynne Prakusya here in Jakarta :D

Angie has a similarity games like Davenport, but Angie is need to improve her power, reduce UE's and probably improve her serve as well. Angie has a good fighting spirit as well, no matter what the score..every single points is count :D

Go Angie :kiss:

Leena
Mar 18th, 2003, 11:15 PM
It's hard to say because we've seen so little of all of them...

I have seen Safina a couple times... she's quick around the court, has good power, she's a great athlete. If she stays strong mentally, I think she's a Top 10 player in the next 3 years.

I've only seen bits of the rest of them, so I can't say... and Angie vs. Anna which doesn't count. :(

the cat
Mar 18th, 2003, 11:29 PM
It's too soon to tell who will accomplish what.

Leena, Dinara is quick around the court? :confused: I saw her play Serena Williams on television at the 2002 U.S. Open and she looked pretty slow to me.

¤CharlDa¤
Mar 18th, 2003, 11:41 PM
I hope Mikaelian goes far..she is very friendly, has a fantastic game, hits very hard and has loots of potential...Hope her injuries are done for a time...She was having a great draw at Ao...

Kuznetsova and Zvonareva are also sure bets...

auntie janie
Mar 19th, 2003, 01:06 AM
Sveta Kuznetsova is only 17, and already has 2 singles and 5 doubles WTA titles! :eek: I have not seen her play, but am sure this phenomenal start has to mean something good about this player! :hearts: :hearts: :hearts:

CJ07
Mar 19th, 2003, 01:12 AM
the problem with Zvonareva is that shes predictable, doesnt know how to finish off points, and is allergic to the net other than that shes great

swissfan
Mar 19th, 2003, 04:01 AM
Kuznetsova seems to be the best mentally.

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2003, 04:19 AM
Age of current top ten players (and Monica) at END of the first year they entered in the top ten

14 Jenn
16 Monica
18 Serena
18 Venus
18 Lindsay

18 Kim
18 Jelena
19 Justine
19 Dani
20 Amelie
20 Chanda

The fact jumps right out at you.
The multiple GS winners all enter the top ten early.

So that's what I look for when searching for elite players.
Evevryone who makes the top ten young doen't win GS titles.
But everybody who wins multiple GS titles seem to get to the top ten early.

Based on that, my eye's on Dinara Safina.
She's only 16, already ranked #63, and can really smack it.
Kuznetsova just doesn't seem like top ten material to me.
But she IS young.

CJ07
Mar 19th, 2003, 04:28 AM
good point Volcana

Gowza
Mar 19th, 2003, 04:31 AM
i wasn't necessarily meaning someone would reach the top 10. i just find it interesting to tallk and compare the young players on the rise to see who might make an impact.

DutchieGirl
Mar 19th, 2003, 04:41 AM
Although volcana's post has to be looked at a little differently now that we have the age restrictions. You aren't going to see any 15 or 16 year old in the top 10 because they aren't allowed to play many tourneys. I also think it would still be hard to find a 17 year old in the top 10! I think with the age restrictions now, we might start seeing multiple slam winners getting into the top 10 at around 19 or 20, instead of the 16 or 17 age bracket.

disposablehero
Mar 19th, 2003, 06:37 AM
Although volcana's post has to be looked at a little differently now that we have the age restrictions. You aren't going to see any 15 or 16 year old in the top 10 because they aren't allowed to play many tourneys. I also think it would still be hard to find a 17 year old in the top 10! I think with the age restrictions now, we might start seeing multiple slam winners getting into the top 10 at around 19 or 20, instead of the 16 or 17 age bracket.

It will still depend on the players ability. Kim has been in the top 10 for nearly 2 years now, but still no younger player has gotten remotely close to it.

Volcana
Mar 19th, 2003, 06:49 AM
Serena came up under the age restrictions. But her parents wouldn't even let her play that much.

I think it comes down to players just not being as good. But we'll see about that won't we?

TS
Mar 19th, 2003, 07:00 AM
I like to think that Sveta Kuznetsova has something special :) I hope she makes it (I know she will).

Would like to see Ashley Harkleroad make some progress...hasn't the most impressive game but I like her spunk and she wants it, I can tell.

Lina K has the ability to go top 10, just hope she can stay injury free (who knows how close she would've been had she not got injured 14 months ago?)

They are all talented players with bright futures, and it's hard at this stage to say who will go furthest etc etc...

DutchieGirl
Mar 19th, 2003, 09:59 AM
Serena came up under the age restrictions. But her parents wouldn't even let her play that much.

I think it comes down to players just not being as good. But we'll see about that won't we?

Yes, I know she did... which is why I didn't say it was IMPOSSIBLE for a 17 y.o. to get into the top ten... was Serena 17 when she got into the top 10? And at what age did she win her first GS?

Besides, I was just trying to point out that the trend or the younger ones in the top ten being more likely to win multiple GS's might be broken with the age eligability rule, because it DOES make it alot hard to break into the top ten. If you can only play 11 tourneys a year, and everyone else in the top 10 may play 17 (even if they choose not to) it is going to make it harder. I mean to get into the top ten at that age you'd have to at least get to the finals of a couple of big tourneys (GS's or IW or so) to even come close to having the points to get into the top 10. Couple this with the fact that you will most likely have harder draws, and less experience because of the age eligability rule, then it's HARD these days to break into the top 10 at a young age!

DutchieGirl
Mar 19th, 2003, 10:01 AM
It will still depend on the players ability. Kim has been in the top 10 for nearly 2 years now, but still no younger player has gotten remotely close to it.
Yes, this is also true, but I was trying to point out that as it's easier to get into the top ten with a full schedule, then it's harder for the younger players these days to get there while under the age restrictions!

Gowza
Mar 19th, 2003, 11:17 AM
please guys lets not turn this into an argument over the age eligibility rule.

remember the thread is about each players individual game.

Myskina Lina
Mar 19th, 2003, 12:22 PM
Serena didn't come up under the same age restrictions. They implemented the Age rules gradually. Serena maybe had one 3rd the age restrictions the girls today have.

switz
Mar 19th, 2003, 12:25 PM
patty cracked the top ten when she just turned 20, so she should be in your list volcana.

irma
Mar 19th, 2003, 12:27 PM
serena played 12 tournaments at 16
and 12 at 17

I am sure that's allowed today!

propi
Mar 19th, 2003, 01:44 PM
I know she's retired but those you say are very far from martina Hingis

Dava
Mar 19th, 2003, 01:46 PM
Well all of them will top 20 players but I had to pick just one then it would be Vera with Miriyum and Lina coming tied second.

Gowza
Mar 19th, 2003, 11:38 PM
has anyone seen cohen aloro play? i heard she has a lot of power but her shots are inconsistent. i was wondering whether she had the power to trouble the very top players if her game got more consistent.

it would have been interesting to see where lina k would be now if she hadn't got those injuries. personally i think at the moment lina k is leading the race this year at least. but it doesn't mean the others aren't as talented.

ptkten
Mar 19th, 2003, 11:45 PM
I think Lina is probably the most talented out of this group, although on the big stage in slams she often gets nervous, but that was two years ago when she was very young. I think she'll be top 20. I've never seen Kuznetsova but I think her results look solid.

I've seen Ashley play a lot and I really like her attitude and her on court fighting spirit. I think against power players she maybe plays a bit too defensively but she is extremely quick and puts a lot of spin on the ball. She has great court sense and has almost every shot. I think once she gets her nerves in check she will do well because her groundstrokes can become weapons if she gets in position and flattens them out. Most importantly though, she wants it badly, and not for her parents or her coach, but for herself.