A thread for the various young kids that have showed some promise in the recent past and hold high hopes for the future (yeah OK, we've been saying that for over 15 years :o)
Anyway, talk about any of them you like! Obviously the 18 and unders...led by Sam Stosur who is top 200, all the way down to 14 year Olivia Lukaszewciz who has just recently gotten a ranking in the 800's.
Which of the girls do you think has the most promise?
Lots of them to choose from...Casey Dellacqua, Adriana Szili, Gaby Baker, Lauren Cheung, Tiffany Welford, Olivia Lukaszewicz, Sophie Ferguson, Daniela Dominikovic, Lara Picone, Natalie Tanevska, Darya Ivanov, Dubravka Cupac....etc etc (I've probably forgotten a few, typical!)
Yeah I know Szili is playing like me at the moment, but I still say give her time...anyway, *hopefully* most of these girls can do something. A lot of them have little experience so it's going to be a waiting game, but that's half the fun :angel: Dissecting their game and criticising their mistakes ;)
Out of those I mentioned, Casey is on her way as we speak, closing in on the top 300. Out of the younger ones I was really impressed with Daniela's game (minus the stupid errors) and think she'll end up doing better than both Olivia and Sophie, players she grew up with in juniors...most will struggle in today's power dominated game, but I can see a few of them making some inroads down the track...
Anyway, keep this thread going and we'll discuss the kids of Oz tennis ;)
Mar 6th, 2003, 08:34 AM
from what i have heard everyone believes that szili is the future of aussie tennis. everyone says she is so talented. i've only seen her play once and that was at the australian open this year. i have to say i did see some talent but not really anything to get excited about, i mean i don't thik she'll reach top 20.
i also saw Casey Dellacqua at the oz open and she looked solid. she had nice shots. she needs to work on the speed and footwork. but she got a wild card so someone thinks she is talented.
Lauren Cheung has a pretty big serve. i haven't seen her play but these days a good serve is vital and it is one of the hardest things to fix so if she can develop the rest of her game she could be ok.
Tiffany Welford has a really big serve which gets into the 170kph. i haven't seen her play and she hasn't really done anything.
Olivia Lukaszewicz and Sophie Ferguson keep getting good things said about them so they are ones to watch.
Daniela Dominikovic i see as being a pretty big talent. possibly top 50. she is inconsistent in terms of errors. she has been described as a young evie but is more aggressive and i think she is expected to have a bigger game. not a bad description considering the size of evie's serve.
sam stosur imo is the most promising. she has a big serve and great placement. she's quickish (not the quickest but not the slowest) she has good power on her groundies and she can volley and with that serve should be able to serve and volley. her groundies are inconsistent. some can be pin point accurate with huge power while others can be halfway down the net. imo she looks like a quicker molik with better groundies.
Mar 7th, 2003, 11:30 PM
I was impressed with Sophie Ferguson when I saw her play at Oz Open. Not because she had any startling strokes. Her game reminded me of Bryanne Stewarts when she was a junior. One handed backhand, fluid groundies... (tho Bryanne's strokes have sooo stiffened up nowadays errrkk :eek:)
What I like was that when Sophie lost a few bad points she made a conscious effort to tighten up and not miss anything. What annoyed me with the likes of Olivia, Gaby and Daniella was that they smacked the ball around with no intensity, if they made errors it was like 'so what'. You need to develop intensity during juniors, it won't happen afterwards!
I would appreciate if anyone could give me a run-down on the style of play and opinion of any junior they have seen, particularly Cupac, Ivanov, Giltnan, Cheung, Welford and others. Thanks in advance.
Mar 8th, 2003, 07:32 AM
OK from what I've seen...
Cupac - Saw her play a little bit of juniors at last years AO, and from what I remember she has a solid baseline game and hits pretty hard. Seemed a little inconsistent and I imagine she has improved somewhat...
Ivanov - Petite and not very powerful. But she gets everything back and is very solid from the back. Unfortunately I think she might struggle more than the others due to her size and the fact she doesn't relly have a weapon, but hey look at Breadmore ;)
Giltinan - I didnt like what I saw, has a terrible serve and a bad forehand (awakward motion, a little like Rosenfield did) but maybe she just had a bad day? She can hit hard and I can definately see lots of room for improvement. But definately needs to work on technique.
Cheung - Nice game and good strokes/serve, has some power on her but I felt isn't aggressive enough. Will definately improve, and I think she is 19 now (or close to it) so she's the oldest of the 'bunch'. Another fairly little player but good build.
Welford - Pretty good hitter and server from what I remember. Really should have beaten Beigbeder (or at least the first set), but I just feel she lacks a killer instinct. Might get lost in the pack, but certainly capable of doing much better in the future.
I should mention Natalie Tanevska. She impressed me at the Aussie Assault. Hits hard, seems pretty determined and is coached by her dad (uh-oh ;))...I can see a good future for her, but I definately think she should have done better in juniors by now.
Mar 9th, 2003, 10:50 PM
Daniella - effortless power on her groundies, but mediocre serve and needs to improve movement (not fitness). Plenty of talent and can make top 100.
Olivia - like playing against a brick wall, literally. A bit too defensive, but will get power as she grows. She has a great return of serve and was doing well against Evie's in a practice i saw.
Lauren - only saw a bit but from what i saw she moved v.well, had a nice serve and adequate power but was error prone in one of the sets (understandable as it was a tier 2).
Nathalie - similar style to Olivia but can flatten it out and hit hard. Like Olivia needs to get stronger, but moves/anticipates well and has good court sense.
Mar 10th, 2003, 09:52 AM
Thanx guys :)
Mar 10th, 2003, 06:02 PM
The US just bt the AUS Juniors something like 13-2 in the Maureen Connelly Brinker Trophy
It was an U14/U12 event
ouch! Don't recognise any names as I don't know many under 14's, but in fairness some of the matches were tight (and yes some were floggings) ;) hehe
The Aussies performed better last year I think, in this event? :confused:
Apr 1st, 2003, 10:41 PM
Casey Dellacqua has signed up to the $10k event in Felixstowe, England, which immediately follows Wimbledon. She played Roehampton junior event last year, and I presume she will play that and junior Wimbledon again this year. Felixstowe is a tournament that has always been popular with the Australian players, featuring Horiatopoulos, Stone, Summerside, Sewell and McKee last year (when it was a $25k)
Apr 2nd, 2003, 01:41 AM
I think that behind stosur, dellacqua is the best chance of being top 100, but that could be biased due to the fact i am a west aussie who has been hanging out for some talent since the dissapointing early retirement of potential top 50, siobhan drake brockman, and it doesnt look like nicky sewell will get there in singles (but definately will in doubles).
Casey hits the ball hard and is a left hander which she uses very well to her advantage. Her problems are her foot work, which when i talked to her in perth a few months ago she said was one of the things she would work on this year with her ais scholarship.
Casey hates travelling, she has a very close family and finds it difficult to be away from them so hopefully ais and tennis oz will give her plenty of support and she can overcome this beacuse she will need to if she is to become a top player.
bp - Why did Felixstowe get downgraded :confused: Christina H reached the SF last year, I remember that very well :) :D
ozfan - I think Casey has loads of potential too! It doesn't take blind freddy to see that the kid has a little extra than most of her Aussie contemporaries...definately will be WA's finest export soon ;) I hope she can sort out her travel issues...it's tough on young kids and I fully understand, but if she wants to be a major player one day she's going to have to move on (and Im sure she is aware of this :))
If Casey plays her cards right she might just get the Wimbledon qualifying wildcard too...
Apr 2nd, 2003, 07:07 AM
Wasn't she injured lately?? Is that why she missed the Victorian 10K events??
Hopefully Casey does sort out her travel issues. I did hear that Melissa Dowse had the same trouble two years back. Hopefully tennis Aus can provide some support if it's a real issue.
I was disappointed that some of the juniors like Sophie, Olivia, Daniella didn't front up for the 10K's. Any reason??? It's not like they're too good for them when you're ranked around 800!!
Apr 2nd, 2003, 09:31 AM
Yeah she had an arm injury from memory...also Tiffany Welford was injured and missed them too :(
As for the younger ones, Daniella and Olivia were playing Junior Grade 1 events in Asia, and fared OK. No idea about Sophie...she entered Yarrawonga but withdrew, perhaps an injury? I fully expect Sophie and Daniella to play all 6 Aussie challengers at the end of the year (Olivia obviously cant cos of age), then we'll get a beter indication of where they are at, as I imagine they'll play mostly junior events this year.
Apr 2nd, 2003, 06:44 PM
TS - several challengers in the UK have been downgraded or cancelled this year. There was a 10k at Frinton straight after Felixstowe, but that has now been cancelled. Hatfield $10k has also been cancelled. The LTA don't seem to understand the logic of having a series of challengers, where foreign players are more likely to come to Britain for.
I think fewer Australian players will come to Britain this year, due to this situation.
The LTA seem to want to keep all the money from Wimbledon and put very little back into the game.
Apr 3rd, 2003, 05:10 AM
casey has had a sore arm and elbow no idea when she will make her comeback and as far as the wimbledon qualies wildcard i think she most deserves it and tennis oz are seriously troubled if they give it to anyone else
Apr 3rd, 2003, 07:54 AM
Can't see them off-loading it to anyone else.... I think they have lost patience with the likes of Watson, Grahame, Stewart and Szili's form has been non-existant.
Apr 23rd, 2003, 11:05 PM
Another Aussie junior, Lara Giltinan has also signed up to the Felixstowe, Uk $10k in mid-July.
Apr 25th, 2003, 06:47 PM
Speaking of West Aussies, I miss Siobhan Drake-Brockman. :sad:
What a waste of talent... :fiery:
Apr 26th, 2003, 04:56 AM
Yeah a shame she gave it away so early. She is still only 24 years old! She was a fun character, I just don't think she handled pressure that well.
May 5th, 2003, 03:49 PM
Jessica Engels won the U/16 grasscourt titles last week (admittedly a pretty weak field...no Daniela D, Tanevska, or Olivia), congrats to her :)
I saw Jess play last year at the Aussie Assault against Dittmann and the kid impressed me! Very quick player, and has a very nice one handed topspin backhand. The only thing holding her back though is she is rather little and doesn't possess a lot of power. She gave Mirielle a good match even though she lost in straight sets.
May 6th, 2003, 01:50 PM
Does anybody know why Australia is not there at the Junior Fed Cup u16 Asia-Oceania qualifiers in Kuala Lumpur this week? .. This is to decide the four teams from asia to go to the world group final-16 in september in Essen, Germany.
Last week the boys junior davis cup u16 asia-oceania qualies were in Jakarta and, Asuatralia was missing there too.
May 14th, 2003, 01:09 PM
It might be time for Casey Dellacqua to get her own thread soon.
A thumping win over Catalina Castano 61 61 moves her into the 2nd rnd at Stockholm. She also won her final qual match over Wolfbrandt 61 61 too. She ran 100ish Asagoe to 3 sets two weeks ago and took a set of Matezvic in the Aus Open so it looks like she can compete at this level.
Shes' nearing the top 300... but I'm taking the cautious approach and not getting excited.... well yet....
Hopefully the Fed Cup girls saw the Castano score..... damn it why not just throw Casey in the team ;) :D
May 14th, 2003, 01:20 PM
Shit... I may have spoken too soon. I just looked on the website for this tournie and now it has Castano def Dellacqua 6-1 6-1. :mad:
I hope this is clarified and the 'real' score i.e. Casey the winner, is re-entered ;) :confused:
May 14th, 2003, 02:48 PM
According to TA newsletter, Casey won 6-1 6-1....so I'll trust the reliable folks at TA :o ;)
May 15th, 2003, 05:20 AM
unfortunately casey did lose 61 61 to castano which is a shame because she could have broken the top 300 for the first time if she went well there but she is still in doubles and will be seeded at almeria next week which is a hardcourt event so i think she will be there in a few weeks time
what the hell is wrong with adriana szili she hasnt wone a mtach for ages
cheung got flogged in round one qualies to so thats not so good for her confidence
for all of you that miss drake brockman she is still playing top level tennis in wa and at recent tournament in my home town of geraldton she played nicole sewell in the final
nicole defeated her 6-4 2-6 6-2 but im sure that if siobhan trained and practised more often she could easily break top 250 or better but i really dont see her ever making a comeback i just dont think she has the desire
she has been doing some study lately and not playing much at all
May 15th, 2003, 07:04 AM
I guess she's happy doing what she's doing so that's all that matters I guess :) Thanks for the info...
:rolleyes: @ TA for not even bothering to check the proper result re Casey. In their current newsletter they devoted an entire paragraph to this 'great' win :o tsk tsk
Adriana needs to train her ass off and perhaps start realising that from here on in, she will have to work hard and earn her stripes. If TA give her any more wildcards later this year and next (provided she is the same rank) I think I will scream. I saw Adriana in practise at the AO and honestly the girl has a terrible attitude, arguing with coaches and looking petulant. Maybe she's just not enjoying it right now?
Lauren will take some time adjusting to clay as I don't think she has played on it much, but hopefully she can improve on last week.
May 15th, 2003, 07:47 AM
adriana sounds like a real bitch and i will also scream if she gets anymore wildcards
i understand that cheung will take some time so find her feet on clay i dont mean to be mean i just want the aussie girls to do well
May 15th, 2003, 12:03 PM
My impression of Adriana, based on the Canberra Women's Classic (which is a very intimate tournament where you see players at close quarters in a range of circumstances) is that she is quiet, very nice and really supportive of the other Australian players. And I certainly didn't see, or hear of, any bad behaviour.
May 15th, 2003, 02:10 PM
That's good to hear then. They're all human and will obviously exhibit different emotions from one week to the next...I don't doubt she is a nice girl off court, but at the time I saw her, her attitude in practise was pretty ordinary.
Obviously when I saw her, she was under quite a bit of pressure to perform well with the WC she was given, and this may have affected her temperament. I don't mean to knock the kid, I'm actually one of her biggest fans believe it or not :o
May 24th, 2003, 10:03 PM
after near 800 post ive finally found this topic :o
as u can watch from my signature and nick im a fan of dubravka cupac
the bigger fan
s, if someone got some news boput her, pls post here, coz its hard for me to find em (im in europe... :D )
ok, cya mates :wavey:
p.s does someone of u plays in optus team 8this is a really important question : life/dead matter for me) ;)
Jun 1st, 2003, 06:27 AM
Hi dubro :)...to answer your question...er, no I dont ;)
We've got 2 Aussies playing the French Open. Can't see them getting far as they have tough draws but good luck to them :)
Casey Dellacqua v Lucie Safarova (Kutuzova in 2nd round)
Lara Giltinan v 12-Vojislava Lukic
Hope we can get a couple more girls that can qualify for Wimbledon.