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Tennis Fool
Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:44 AM
She has a motherlode of points to defend (while Hingis continues to drop and drop from the rankings).

What do you think?

Venus Forever
Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:46 AM
I don't think she will defend.

This title, I believe, is between Kim, Monica, and Lindsay.

MarcusRock
Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:47 AM
Never say never but I believe Daniela has the slimmest chance (no pun intended) of repeating here.

Cybelle Darkholme
Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:49 AM
Im pulling for an Ai Sugiyama upset.

Leena
Mar 3rd, 2003, 12:51 AM
Dani won't win... she'll drop to #8 in the rankings. Such is life.

Becool
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:00 AM
It's more than obvious that Daniela won't defend this title, that was the biggest fluke of 2002. Fortunely, later in the year, Hingis showed everyone she could actually face Daniela equally and thanks to GOD she won the match in straight sets. It was clear that her victory in IW wasn't nothing but pure and real fluke!

She won't win it, and she will lots of points. She doesn't deserve to be on the top 5, and this is what's gonna happen from now on.

kournikovafan13
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:04 AM
Biggest fluke of 2002, Bernardo? lmao :D

Is that why afterwards, Daniela had lots of great wins and proceded to end the year ranked 8?

I think the biggest fluke of 2002 was Alexandra actually beating a top player three times, for she did nothing else but shit for the rest of the season :D

Leena
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:07 AM
Iva Majoli would have to be fluke of 2002, winning Charleston Tier I, and doing jack shit otherwise.

Mattographer
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:12 AM
Nope, Iva Majoli deserve to win Charleston but Daniela Hantuchova? No offenise, her half draw was sooo weakest! She only played seeded players are Justine Henin who doesn't well on US Hardcourts and Lisa Raymond. Oh yeah, I forget to add Martina Hingis who played bad at that day.

Becool
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:13 AM
Yeah james

Alex defeated Jennifer three times! How can that be a fluke? Daniela won Indian Wells only once.. Will she do it three times? Do you think she's able to do it? No she's not.. I'm just hoping that IW comes faster than ever just to rub it on your face the reality!

BTW This thread is about Daniela, so let's stick with her. If you want to discuss on Alexandra please open a new thread about her...

Gowza
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:20 AM
kim, monica and lindsay have all ben fairly up and down lately.

kim not so much but she really should have beaten serena at AO and sugiyama in scottsdale. maybe she is getting tired towards the end of tournaments.

monica has had good results and bad results. she could reach the final or she could go out in the 2nd or 3rd or 4th round.

lindsay won that title and backed it up with a lose early in scottsdale. she is doing the same sort of thing as monica.

if hantuchova plays these ladies on a bad day then she could go past them and win.

Jericho
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:23 AM
I dont think she will win it, IMO the winner wont be in the top ten, hopefully daniilidou or bovina...

Becool
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:30 AM
if hantuchova plays these ladies on a bad day then she could go past them and win.

That's the only thing she can hope for to beat these girls now.

Chance
Mar 3rd, 2003, 01:33 AM
anything can happen like at Scottsdale- so who knows but I see I have something in common with Becool ;)

Havok
Mar 3rd, 2003, 02:50 AM
she'll go into a freefall. this is her very first title defence, and i predict that she won't fare very well. i say she's out before the quarterfinals, and she;ll fall to #8 and i think she'll be a little down on herself because of her failure to win, or even advance to the quarters, and she'll have to fight for a spot in the bottom of the top 10.

maccardel
Mar 3rd, 2003, 03:35 AM
My answer. NO.

I am rooting for Chanda...who finally deserves this title...

Daniela is more like top 15 not top 5..she hasn't been top 5 since well since she was top 5.


Here's hoping for a Monica win....I hope Alex makes the final this time...with another win over Capriati in the semis....just to prove it's not a fluke...it's not bad for the Capped one since she is only earning points here...

ns_Henin
Mar 3rd, 2003, 03:41 AM
I think Dani will fight hard and wont let anyone to grab this title! Maybe the worst result is SF and if she can reach Nasdaq QF, i think she'll safe in the top 10.

Tarsius
Mar 3rd, 2003, 03:45 AM
We'll see...

This IS tennis after all.

bis2806
Mar 3rd, 2003, 03:48 AM
dani will be out of top 10 soon....

LeonHart
Mar 3rd, 2003, 03:54 AM
Dani will at least make the Semis, if not the Finals :D

Buitenzorg
Mar 3rd, 2003, 03:58 AM
Hey...Daniela is deserved to be #5 :p Stop critism her! :o

gorecki
Mar 3rd, 2003, 04:08 AM
anything can happen like at Scottsdale- so who knows but I see I have something in common with Becool ;)
yep.

of course i'd like Daniela to defend her title - but realistically anyone can win.

Daniela lost in the first round of Miami last year so there's points there for her to nab! :bounce:

treufreund
Mar 3rd, 2003, 04:08 AM
I am not Daniela's fan but I see no reason why see does not have a decent chance in the desert. She barely lost to Lindsay down in Sydney earlier this year and played a good match in Oz against Schnyder where she mixed it up. She has a chance. She is definitely good enough for top ten or top 12. Not five in the world but she did the work to get there and should not be underestimated.

Buitenzorg
Mar 3rd, 2003, 04:11 AM
I am not Daniela's fan but I see no reason why see does not have a decent chance in the desert. She barely lost to Lindsay down in Sydney earlier this year and played a good match in Oz against Schnyder where she mixed it up. She has a chance. She is definitely good enough for top ten or top 12. Not five in the world but she did the work to get there and should not be underestimated.

I agree with U! about "NOT To UNDERESTIMATED any Players!" :D

BUT

I disagree that you said Daniela is not good enough to be #5 :p

Sharapower
Mar 3rd, 2003, 06:39 AM
It will certainly be a tough challenge for Daniela to hold the title because of a stronger field than last year.
But Daniela remains a favorite. She's got something to prove to herself so I think she will give everything in this tournament. The critical moment will be her first match, in which her stress might be peaking. After that if she avoids an infamous first round loss, I think she's going to play her best for the tourney, now I don't know if it's gonna be enough, that will depend on a lot of parameters : her fitness, her confidence, the form of opponents.
I see her at least in the semis. And in my very heart I hope she wins the title again.

BTW, even if she defends her title, I think she'll lose one or two places in the rankings, depending on Jennifer and Amelie's performances, they didn't play IW last year.

banana
Mar 3rd, 2003, 06:50 AM
It will certainly be a tough challenge for Daniela to hold the title because of a stronger field than last year.
But Daniela remains a favorite. She's got something to prove to herself so I think she will give everything in this tournament. The critical moment will be her first match, in which her stress might be peaking. After that if she avoids an infamous first round loss, I think she's going to play her best for the tourney, now I don't know if it's gonna be enough, that will depend on a lot of parameters : her fitness, her confidence, the form of opponents.
I see her at least in the semis. And in my very heart I hope she wins the title again.

BTW, even if she defends her title, I think she'll lose one or two places in the rankings, depending on Jennifer and Amelie's performances, they didn't play IW last year.


yeah i agree, with quasi, i think we'll see the same thing that we saw with jennifer at AO2002 (that was Jennifer's first big title defence) she mite b nervous but i am sure she will give it all she got til the last point, but i have to think that on current form, it's btween Lindsay, Kim, Jennifer & Monica depending on the draw.

DEETHELICK
Mar 3rd, 2003, 06:44 PM
I think the title is gona be between Kim, Lindsay and Jennifer.

I don't know why, but I have a hunch Daniela will lose in the 2nd/3rd round.

beauty_is_pink
Mar 3rd, 2003, 08:58 PM
GOOOOOOO DANIELA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YOU DEFEND THAT TITLE DANIELA! SHOW EVERYONE WHAT YOUR MADE OF!!!!!! rrrrrrrrrrr :devil:

hahhaa

seriously... i DONT think last year was a fluke... Daniela played her ass off last year and she deserved to win it.. BUT i do agree with y0ou guys on that, this year is a harder draw for Daniela. and Kim is going to be a BIG threat... for christ sake [haha christ sake...] she's the #3 in the world! but Daniela should be confidence in coming into the tournament as the defending champ... DONT LISTEN TO MY NEGATIVEITY DANIELA!!! JUS GO ON AND PLAY YOUR HEART OUT!!! :wavey:

gooooodd luuuccckkk to ALL the players!!! [a lot more luck to Daniela tho... haha] :worship:

GrahamD
Mar 3rd, 2003, 09:25 PM
To be honest, if Daniela does lose, I'd be happy knowing that she tried her hardest to play her best and was beaten by a better player on the day. There are a few interesting things to consider though. Firstly, everyone will want to beat the defending champion. However, the defending champion will have the respect of everyone else. She will also not want to give up her title without a fight. Throw these three things into the arena and you have an interesting scenario. What the most likely outcome will be is anyone's guess, and this is no time for negativity. Daniela believes she's will win it (she has to believe in herself) so that's good enough for me.

Daniela forever! :worship:

apoet29
Mar 3rd, 2003, 10:31 PM
Being the defending champion at any tourney is difficult and the pressure will be squarely on Daniela to defend. Yet, I really think Dani can do it. She has proven herself to be a consistent player on the tour and that is what makes the difference between a good player and a great player.

King Lindsay
Mar 3rd, 2003, 11:10 PM
first off, alexsydney. majoli deserved to win charleston but daniela did not deserve to take indian wells? how do you fucking figure? daniela's indian wells draw was 5 times tougher than majoli's charleston draw. you are a dumbass.

secondly, not only is hantuchova a top 5 talent, but you're all fools if you underrate her. she's the real deal. she's all that was advertised. she has TALENT. the thing is, she is YOUNG. she is still IMPROVING. as far as i can tell, she jumped about 30 places in the rankings last year. she finished at #8. now she's moved to #5 and people say she doesn't deserve it. well who does? slumping capriati? struggling, aging seles? rubin who has never held that ranking in her life? myskina? nosediving dokic? you could make a case for davenport or mauresmo, but they have been injured, and that is just too damn bad. daniela is #5 in their absence.

this is the bottomline. she may defend indian wells, she may not. BUT SHE DOESN'T NEED TO WIN AGAIN TO VALIDATE HER TALENT! maybe she'll lose her first match and drop to #8. maybe she'll win it again and show you all just how stupid you are. either way, she's a young player on the rise, and she'll be back in that top five, bank on it.

ptkten
Mar 3rd, 2003, 11:59 PM
Amen, King Lindsay

There is no way Daniela is worse than the 7th best player in the world right now. NO WAY. Have you guys seen her results? I just don't understand where people get the idea that she is playing badly. She has lost to exactly 3 people this year, Venus, Dementieva, and Lindsay and reached the quarters in all of her tournaments. She was a quarterfinalist in the last 3 slams, ONLY the Williams sisters can say that. Now that tells you something.

Sharapower
Mar 4th, 2003, 06:22 AM
With the draw released, we have now a concrete perspective : Daniela's quarter of draw is rather "comfortable" though there might be some tricky matches against experienced ladies like Lisa Raymond, Amanda Coetzer or Els Callens. But on a technical basis, Daniela should beat them.

The real deal would begin in the semi if the logic of seedings is respected, then it would be against Kim Clijsters, and I would say it's 50/50 : Kim beat Daniela once but it was a very close match. Anyway Kim doesn't have a very easy draw so her presence in the semis is not that granted.

So I think Daniela has serious chances to defend her title, now it's up to her to make something of these chances.

RAA
Mar 4th, 2003, 01:27 PM
hmmm
I don't think Daniela will repeat. Which doesn't mean she doesn't deserve to be ranked where she is, I just don't think she'll be able to repeat...

with both serena and venuse out, and monica out as well and henin not playing.. this is a wide open field.
I think Amelie might sneak in there and get the win. although she'll have to get past Davenport to do so..
how about myskina, anyone think she's ready?

Tennis Fool
Mar 4th, 2003, 11:45 PM
*bump*;)

CJ07
Mar 5th, 2003, 12:09 AM
i doubt she'll repeat, but i may be wrong

Gowza
Mar 5th, 2003, 12:25 AM
she has a chance but i think capriati, davenport or clijsters are more likely to win it.

i think bovina is a better player when they're at their best but if they played each other it would be in the later rounds and bovina just can't string that many matches together quite yet. i don't think she is quick enough to recover from matches. but hopefully i'm wrong, i would like to see bovina win it along with many others but bovina is at the top of the list.

Volcana
Mar 5th, 2003, 01:25 AM
What on-court evidence have we seen that makes a repeat as champion seem likely? Obviously it's possible. But likely? As in a higher probability than 50%?

Dani usually defends her seedings. But that would mean a SF loss, not a championship.

~|Naomi|~
Mar 5th, 2003, 01:51 AM
Kim beat Daniela once but it was a very close match.

Wrong Kim and Daniela have played twice and Kim won both times

2002 Filderstadt 4-6 6-3 6-4
2000 Antwerp (Clay) 7-6(6) 6-1

But I think Hantuchova will either make semi or final as her draw is well shall I say not exactly deep ;) Actually it is extemely weak, so if she was to meet Kim or Rubin or Sugiyama or Dechy or Someone else in the semis she would be a lot fresher than them

1jackson2001
Mar 5th, 2003, 02:11 AM
I don't think she will imo. But who knows? I'm cheering for Ai tho. ;) Keep that streak alive baby!

Tennis Fool
Mar 11th, 2003, 11:34 PM
Well, I guess we know that answer to THAT question. Down to COETZER :eek: 6/4, 6/4 in the Quarters...

I guess she's fallen to number 8, right?

stabelizebons
Mar 11th, 2003, 11:51 PM
Hahahaha......lmao at tennisfann!

BombsAway
Mar 11th, 2003, 11:54 PM
I see she don't know how to pull out a win in-spite of bad play. Maybe she has peaked.

Rocketta
Mar 11th, 2003, 11:55 PM
Well, I guess we know that answer to THAT question. Down to COETZER :eek: 6/4, 6/4 in the Quarters...

I guess she's fallen to number 8, right?

Actually it was the 4th round not the quarters! :eek:

Leena
Mar 12th, 2003, 12:47 AM
Yep, she'll be #8, or #9 if Chanda defeats Kim and gets to the final... or wins the whole thing.

Sharapower
Mar 12th, 2003, 07:13 AM
This defeat is very tough for Daniela and I guess she is terribly disappointed, especially regarding all the break opportunities she missed. Though she was far from playing great, one cannot say she played badly. The problem was that Amanda returned everything, such that Daniela, little by little, lost confidence in her shots and especially missed a lot of forehands on breakpoints. Someway Amanda helped Daniela a lot in losing this one.

I’ve got to congratulate Amanda for her great match, she was exemplary as far as fighting spirit, consistency and tactical sense are concerned… and guys, what an athletic lady at 31 !!! Daniela would be well-inspired to take example of this model (I bet Nigel Sears could talk about that for hours).

I think Daniela lacks a little bit of “positive thinking” these days. Unfortunately, loosing in the fourth round of Indian Wells, being the defending champion, will not really help resolving that problem.

Nevertheless, Daniela showed some good things : her net play seemed to have improved a lot and she begins to successfully vary her game (with big lifts, one-handed sliced backhands). Definitely, Daniela lost that match for lacking of lucidity because, honestly, she is technically better than Amanda.

Now Daniela has to overcome her disappointment and take the appropriate conclusions after her defeats and hardly won matches since the season began. Standing the pressure of “being at the top of the game” is not something easy to learn and Daniela clearly didn’t yet.

Last thing, about Daniela’s physical form, she is impressively getting skinnier. I suppose – I hope – she and the people close to her are aware of that, which might become a problem with the accumulation of effort in training and competing. But I don’t think it’s a matter to panic : Daniela seemed to be in good athletic form and to have improved in moving speed (but Amanda doesn’t hit that hard so I won’t make a definite conclusion about this point).

Awesome4hand
Mar 12th, 2003, 07:20 AM
Well, I guess we know that answer to THAT question. Down to COETZER :eek: 6/4, 6/4 in the Quarters...

I guess she's fallen to number 8, right?


Hi there,

I noticed in your signature about ATP world... you know how to get to it?
Please help me.
:)

Chance
Mar 12th, 2003, 08:08 AM
awsome4hand - atpworld has closed down ...go to bugs/error forum for more info. :)

Tennis Fool
Mar 12th, 2003, 11:33 PM
Hi there,

I noticed in your signature about ATP world... you know how to get to it?
Please help me.
:)

Hi there:wavey:
What Sunset said 'tis true. We lost our home :sad:

Volcana
Mar 12th, 2003, 11:40 PM
Speed kills

maccardel
Mar 12th, 2003, 11:59 PM
I enjoyed that match to see Amanda return everything even her foot up Daniela's ass. Did you see the looks on Ms I don't know if I wanna be Anna or Venus?

She got whopped. Wanna hang with the big girls saying she is hungry for a second title...Amanda showed her ass, get hungry for a burger...what you talking about a title..

Let's face it, Daniela won last year because Hingis was injured and on her way out. It's not the same as Capriati who backed up Oz with the french and other titles along the way....

Please!!!!!!!!!! that girl makes me laugh sometimes. I would smack her with my racket for even thinking about repeating....