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GogoGirl
Mar 2nd, 2003, 02:15 PM
I kind of wondered if Kim agreed w/her father.

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Clijsters may leave Belgium

SCOTTSDALE - Second seed Kim Clijsters ripped into the final of the 585,000-dollar State Far Classic Saturday as the complex state of her Belgian tax affairs failed to inhibit her tennis.

Clijsters upended American Meghann Shaughnessy 6-3, 7-5 at the Scottsdale Princess resort and will await a Sunday opponent from American Alexandra Stevenson and her some-times double partner, Japan's Ai Sugiyama.

Clijsters, girlfriend of world number 1 Lleyton Hewitt, who will headline here next week as men come in for the Franklin Templeton Classic, said that Belgium's 62% tax rate again has her considering taking up residence elsewhere.

"They're still trying to bother me for more taxes," said the player, whose financial affairs are looked after by her father Leo, a former Belgian football star. "It's really hard to live with all the taxes."

Clijsters had in recent months been reported as considering the option of moving to Australia, where multi-millionaire Hewitt is based. But even that country's marginal rate of around 50% for big earners would not be a great improvement. Clijsters has spent the past few Christmas seasons at the Hewitt family home in Adelaide, preparing for January's Australian summer tournaments.

Clijsters, like Hewitt, is building a new home for herself, in Flanders. Hewitt is ready to build on a block of waterfront land in his hometown in South Australia.

The Belgian teenager said she is still weighing her financial options - and denies that moving Down Under is anything more than just one possibility. Clijsters has won almost 325,000 dollars in prize money already this year, with just two months of play completed. Her total earnings are more than 3.5 million dollars from playing alone - without endorsements. She admitted: she'd save a packet even by transferring her fiscal home to Australia.

"I just thought about moving my residency to Australia or Monaco. People think I'll move to Australia. It would save me a lot of money, I'm paying 62% in Belgium." But Clijsters added that after spending two months in Australia in December and January "I was really happy to go home."

She said that a decision may not be imminent: "I'm thinking about it, I don't want to make that decision in a few days. We travel so much already and I don't know if I want to go to another place where I don't know people."

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fleemke³
Mar 2nd, 2003, 02:19 PM
http://forum.sport.be/ubb/graemlins/boring.gif

@ Gogo It's nothing against you but I'm getting tired of this soap ;)

The Crow
Mar 2nd, 2003, 02:24 PM
Yep me too. If Kim wants to move, fine, then move! But stop talking about it all the time (Lei as well as the media :rolleyes: )

-Sonic-
Mar 2nd, 2003, 02:49 PM
It took us the best part of a year to move to a house in the same village we were already in - it's gonna take Kim a whole lot longer to uproot her life and move it halfway round the world.

And also, I doubt she sits down in every press conference and just starts mouthing off about how she's gonna move, I dare say she's being asked questions about it.

And even if she was mouthing off about it 24/7, its going to be a huge thing on her mind, so she would talk about it. But she's not writing the articles on it though, or posting them on msg boards.

tfannis
Mar 2nd, 2003, 02:51 PM
Urgh :rolleyes:

A thread about Kim moving...AGAIN :rolleyes:
When she has moved, you'll notice...untill then...let it rest ;)

TeeRexx
Mar 2nd, 2003, 02:57 PM
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"It's really hard to live with all the taxes."
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Poor, penniless Kim. :rolleyes:

leslie
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:03 PM
I guess she's going to desert her good old country Belgium the country that roots for her in every tournment and love her to death. She's going to hold her skirt up at them and tell them kiss her ass I don't need you any more.

leslie
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:05 PM
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"It's really hard to live with all the taxes."
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Poor, penniless Kim. :rolleyes:

TeeRexx I wish V/S could find another country where they can move to and get 150% support from the crowd and leave racist American behind. Let me take that back; If American could ship them to another country they gladly would.

venusfan
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:10 PM
Is that 62% of what she makes she has to pay for taxes?

If so, then she is crazy for sticking around.

King Lindsay
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:13 PM
let's just take kim's given career prize money of 3.5 million. even at a 62% rate, she would still be a millionaire. plus, not all of that money would have been taxed at the rate she's currently at, since I doubt that in 1999 or perhaps even 2000 she qualified in the highest tax bracket, though I could be wrong. anyway, my point is, she's doing fine even without the endorsements. besides, if Justine can handle it, why shouldn't she?

fleemke³
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:17 PM
62% :confused:
We pay a lot of taxes but I really can't believe that it is more than 50% :confused:

(I'll try to find out ;))

venusfan
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:20 PM
I just checked and I pay about 14% in taxes.. :):) Good old USA.. plus at the end of the year I get most of that back :):):)

leslie
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:21 PM
let's just take kim's given career prize money of 3.5 million. even at a 62% rate, she would still be a millionaire. plus, not all of that money would have been taxed at the rate she's currently at, since I doubt that in 1999 or perhaps even 2000 she qualified in the highest tax bracket, though I could be wrong. anyway, my point is, she's doing fine even without the endorsements. besides, if Justine can handle it, why shouldn't she?

Very good point. "If Justine can handle it why shouldn't she".

fleemke³
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:33 PM
Ok let's see .. I only got the taxes of 1999 and they were in BEF so if I put it in Euro's ( is almost the same as Dollars)

When a person gets more than 61 000 euros in a year he/she has to pay 55% taxes. But it differs when the person is alone, married, has kids, ...

gentenaire
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:48 PM
I just checked and I pay about 14% in taxes.. :):) Good old USA.. plus at the end of the year I get most of that back :):):)

But when you get injured, you'll get a very high hospital bill. People that don't have enough money don't get the same medical treatment.

I graduated from college without debts, just like all my friends. We got to start our own life with a positive bank balance. When choosing my univerisity, when choosing schools, money was never an issue. When I need an operation, it's not going to take up all my life's savings. Trains are easy offordable and gave me a lot of freedom long before I had my driver's license. We pay a lot of taxes, we got a lot for it in return. The standard of living is very high in Belgium, higher than in the USA.
I'm comforted by the fact that even when things are bad, I won't end up in a ditch. It's a very safe feeling.
Seeing homeless people sleeping in cardboard boxes in the streets may be a normal view to Americans, it's not to us.

fleemke³
Mar 2nd, 2003, 03:50 PM
But when you get injured, you'll get a very high hospital bill. People that don't have enough money don't get the same medical treatment.

I graduated from college without debts, just like all my friends. We got to start our own life with a positive bank balance. When choosing my univerisity, when choosing schools, money was never an issue. When I need an operation, it's not going to take up all my life's savings. Trains are easy offordable and gave me a lot of freedom long before I had my driver's license. We pay a lot of taxes, we got a lot for it in return. The standard of living is very high in Belgium, higher than in the USA.
I'm comforted by the fact that even when things are bad, I won't end up in a ditch. It's a very safe feeling.
Seeing homeless people sleeping in cardboard boxes in the streets may be a normal view to Americans, it's not to us.



Nice Tine and totaly right :)

Cybelle Darkholme
Mar 2nd, 2003, 04:03 PM
very good point. America sucks when it comes to providing for the well being of its citizens. The greedy top 1% and the throng of mad dog republicans see to that.

tfannis
Mar 2nd, 2003, 04:05 PM
:worship: Tine

King Lindsay
Mar 2nd, 2003, 04:18 PM
... in defense of the tax system. however, tine, maybe you should explain this to clijsters?

venusfan
Mar 2nd, 2003, 05:03 PM
But when you get injured, you'll get a very high hospital bill. People that don't have enough money don't get the same medical treatment.

I graduated from college without debts, just like all my friends. We got to start our own life with a positive bank balance. When choosing my univerisity, when choosing schools, money was never an issue. When I need an operation, it's not going to take up all my life's savings. Trains are easy offordable and gave me a lot of freedom long before I had my driver's license. We pay a lot of taxes, we got a lot for it in return. The standard of living is very high in Belgium, higher than in the USA.
I'm comforted by the fact that even when things are bad, I won't end up in a ditch. It's a very safe feeling.
Seeing homeless people sleeping in cardboard boxes in the streets may be a normal view to Americans, it's not to us.


Point well taken.. but I pay $25 a month and my job pays the rest for Health Insurance.. the only thing I had to pay for was College Tuition, and if u go to a public Univ.. it's about $3k a year living at home.

gentenaire
Mar 2nd, 2003, 05:47 PM
Point well taken.. but I pay $25 a month and my job pays the rest for Health Insurance.. the only thing I had to pay for was College Tuition, and if u go to a public Univ.. it's about $3k a year living at home.

Your job pays the rest for health insurance, you say. It's the same here, we call it taxes. A lot of people don't know how much taxes they pay because the taxes are already taken off their pay check when they get it.

King Lindsay, Kim knows! Lei said in an interview that he doesn't oppose taxes, that they've benefited from it too and that he thinks it's only fair that Kim pays her share. What Lei opposes to, and I've mentioned this many times before, is that there's a different tax system for football players. He feels all top athletes deserve the same system.

And to be honest, I'm sick of this whole 'Kim's going to leave Belgium' thing. It keeps coming back and back, Kim's sick of it too. She wore a Belgian outfit in Antwerp to prove that she's got no intention of leaving.

I would also like to know if this is a new quote from Kim, if she said it at Scottsdale, or if it's an old quote brought back once again by journalists looking for a story.

King Lindsay
Mar 2nd, 2003, 07:16 PM
there is a different tax system for the football players? really? how does it work? do they pay less, despite making just as much? how is that constitutional? can you explain this further?

seabiscuit
Mar 3rd, 2003, 06:18 PM
isn't it wonderful how the socialists view other people's rightly earned money as their own to do with what they feel is right...as the Wallflower's sing: "We can buy anything
Because there's always something
That's so funny about spending
Somebody else's money"

Varissle
Mar 3rd, 2003, 06:21 PM
why do you post a :) next to it?
This is not so funny for us :sad:
But Kim will never leave Belgium, she only says she will, to put pressure on the government.