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Jessica02
Apr 4th, 2002, 06:04 PM
:wavey: Guys!!

How you doing?

Ive just got India Arie album is that the best album I have heard in a while or what...Its fantastic I cant put it down. The lyrics and vocals are so good.
The song on her album Back to the Middle...Does that remind anyone else of TLC's waterfalls...lyrics wise.

Beige...Have you heard Glen Lewis's album if so what say?
Im in love with him anyway he is gorgeous :drool: and a great talent.

BCP
Apr 4th, 2002, 10:57 PM
Hey Jess:bounce: The India Arie album is excellent. My fave track is the last track, a tribute to Stevie Wonder called wonderful. The chord changes, and the way she sings it is a direct imitation of Stevie.

Beige, $10-12 USD is NOT expensive in Australian terms. We are looking at about $40-$45 AUD, which is about $20-25 USD for Japanese import CDs.

Rightous, I read a Sia article today which says that she will be collaberating with Nenah Cherry, Lady Miss Kier (from Deelite), and Nik Kershaw:eek: ) in the next few months.

Beige
Apr 5th, 2002, 02:45 PM
BCP, my bad. I had no idea imports could run that high elsewhere. Sometimes I've been disappointed with remixes because many are "ordinary".

Jessica, sorry I only know that Glenn's hit. Saw him perform it live on TV recently and he sounded great. The Canadian's got talent. :) And Jess, sorry to tell you but rumor has it that Glenn's into boys. :(

Nik Kershaw! :eek: Everybody now!

"Wouldn't it be good to be in your shoes - even if it was for just one day?...." ;)

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND! :cool:

rightous
Apr 5th, 2002, 09:27 PM
Hi crew hows everyone doing:wavey:

Thanks Ty thats the song, they never show who its by, its such a good song, so thanks:D

Yeah I have heard the Remix of Toni's song, its all good, btw her 'secrets' album is IMHO one of the best 'love-making' albums out there, its so sultry its almost too hot to touch!!!lol

BCP Bro it was about time you gouys got Sia :p, btw the girl is bloody mental, like she is alot screws loost, but she is so creative and innovative, if you can try and get her 'Taken For Granted' Song its one of my fave song of all time, I'm glad she is getting some exposure, she is releasing her album here soon as well.

Gee Man I heard Tweet's song. and the lyrics are saucy but alas the song is bad, and Missy and Tweety are batting eyelids at each other together, if y'all get my drift;)

BCP
Apr 6th, 2002, 11:22 PM
The reason why Sia is a bit "damaged" is that when she first moved to London, she was meeting her boyfriend somewhere, but he never showed. Turns out he was run over by a London cab, and was killed.... TRUE STORY!!!!!!! She's never been the same since, and I think her album is about all the angst involved in that.

Beige
Apr 8th, 2002, 12:46 PM
Hey! :wavey:

Rightous & Jessica, I listened to Beverley Knight's cd at Virgin over the weekend and it didn't really grab me. She has a good voice but I didn't care for the material. It was NOT R&B enough for me. Most of the songs seemed "watered down" (read: stripping the songs MUSICALLY of any soul and trying to sound too "bouncy pop"). I liked the duet with Musiq Soulchild but it could've been stronger.

BCP
Apr 8th, 2002, 11:49 PM
I've never been a Beverley Knight fan either unfortunately. Maybe we just don't get it Beige.

I got my hands on a copy of the new D'Influence album, D-Vas. It's AMAZING. Highly recommended.......

rightous
Apr 10th, 2002, 11:46 PM
Beige its funny you say that as although its been critically acclaimed here, it was suggested that Beverly has compormised a little to be a little more commercail and appeal a little more to the Masses, I suppose if you want a true Beverly Knight Soul album try Soul Sista, its pure Soul and R'n'B UK style. I personally love 'Who I Am'. To really get to the soul of Beverly is through her live performances, she is one of those artists who just evolves in fornt of you when she performs live, she grips the audience, the songs and music, she is a true live artists, and I suppose thats is where an artist really should cut their mustard.

BCP I was reading a review in Q last week, it didn't get a brillant review, the reviewer said they were on the same track and doing nothing new, but I'll check it put, oh and btw Ms Hines is getting some air play over here.

Oh guys what do ya think of N.E.R.D In the Search of ABlum, I have heard a few songs, and what i heard I liked alot.....

Jess girl did you see Five Night Stand tonite!!!

BCP
Apr 10th, 2002, 11:53 PM
Rightous, are you serious, is Deni being palyed in the UK. It must be the latest single Frenzy? What's it like? I heard it wasn't any good. She has sunk without a trace in Australia.

D'influence never gets good reviews though, esp in Q which is a more rock orientated magazine.

Musik, hideous magazine generally, listed their top 50 dance albums of all time. I can't believe Massive Attack's Blue Lines only came in at no 14. In addition I can't believe that Madonna's Ray of Light made it at all (no 46)!

I'll post the full list tonight. :)

rightous
Apr 11th, 2002, 12:27 AM
One of the girls out of my house heard her song on the radio and she asked me if I had heard of her, I'll check out for it:)

Q Magazine in the UK has become less Rock orientated as of late, they have featured alot of R'n'B stuff recently.

Massive Attack, gee only 14, Madonna gets the Commercial vote huh???? Did Portishead make an appearance, oh BCP what do ya think of Kosheen.

BCP
Apr 11th, 2002, 12:28 AM
Portishead was in the top 20 i think with the first album. I haven't heard much of Kosheen's material. Do you like them?

rightous
Apr 11th, 2002, 12:46 AM
Yeah I'm a big fan, I really like them, the lead vocalist has an amazing voice, they have released 2 songs so far off their album, Hide U which is a slamin track and Catch, again very wicked, their new single is Hungey again a top notch tune, I have been very impressed with the high level of their material.

BCP
Apr 11th, 2002, 12:48 AM
Excellent. I'll make sure to keep an eye out for their stuff.:)

Beige
Apr 11th, 2002, 01:38 PM
Originally posted by rightous
Beige its funny you say that as although its been critically acclaimed here, it was suggested that Beverly has compormised a little to be a little more commercail and appeal a little more to the Masses, I suppose if you want a true Beverly Knight Soul album try Soul Sista, its pure Soul and R'n'B UK style. I personally love 'Who I Am'. To really get to the soul of Beverly is through her live performances, she is one of those artists who just evolves in fornt of you when she performs live, she grips the audience, the songs and music, she is a true live artists, and I suppose thats is where an artist really should cut their mustard.

BCP I was reading a review in Q last week, it didn't get a brillant review, the reviewer said they were on the same track and doing nothing new, but I'll check it put, oh and btw Ms Hines is getting some air play over here.

Oh guys what do ya think of N.E.R.D In the Search of ABlum, I have heard a few songs, and what i heard I liked alot.....

Jess girl did you see Five Night Stand tonite!!!

I hear ya, Rightous. Unfortunately when the record label meddles too much in the creative process the material can sometimes suffer. :( I know The Neptunes' album is out but it's getting no radio support. I get so pissed with hip hop radio because any time a rap act is "creative" they shy away from them in favor of "safer" sounds like JaRule. :rolleyes:

BCP
Apr 11th, 2002, 05:03 PM
Beige, can I just tell you how much I am over Ja Rule.:rolleyes: He's even more annoying than P Diidy, and that's saying something.

Ok as promised, Musik's Top 50 dance albums of all time:

(I have * the ones I own)

1. Endtroducing- DJ Shadow (1996)
2. Exit Planet Dust- Chemical Brothers (1995)
3. The Brown Album- Orbital (1993) *
4. Screamadelica- Primal Scream (1991) *
5. Ima- BT (1995) YUCK!
6. Frequencies- LFO (1991)
7. Adventures beyond the Ultraworld- The Orb (1991)
8. Homework- Daft Punk (1997)
9.Trans Europe Express- Kraftwork (1977)
10. Dubnobasswithmyheadman- Underworld (1993)

11. Club Classics Vol 1- Soul II Soul (1988) * :hearts:
12. Selected Ambient Works- Aphex Twin (1992)
13. The White Room- The KLF (1991)
14. Blue Lines- Massive Attack (1991) * :hearts:
15. Accelerator- The Future Sound of London (1991) *
16. Non-Stop Erotic Cabaret- Soft Cell (1981)
17. Let Nobody Live Rent Free in Your Head- Nicolette (1996)
18. Moon Safari- Air (1998)
19.It Takes a Nation of Millions to hold us back- Public Enemy (1988) *
20. Pills n' Thrills and belly aches- Happy Mondays (1990)

21. Leftism - Left Field (1995)
22. Escape from noise- Negativland (1987)
23. Music for the jilted generation- The Prodigy (1994)
24. Remedy- Basement Jaxx (1999)
25. Halfway between the guitar and the stars- Fatboy Slim (2000)
26. Newbuild- 808 state (1988)
27. Let's get killed- David Holmes (1997)
28. Technique- New Order (1988) *
29. Dummy- Portishead (1994)
30. Violator- Depeche Mode (1990)

31. The Marshall Mathers EP (2000)
32. Debut- Bjork (1993) *
33.Reverance- Faithless (1996)
34. Nightclubbing- Grace Jones (1981)*
35. Sheet one- Plastikman (1993)
36. Maxinque- Tricky (1995)
37. Very- The Pet Shop Boys (1993) *
38. 20 Jazz Funk Greats (1979)
39. Smokers Delight-Nightmare on Wax (1995)
40. Suicide- Suicide (1977)

41. Incunabula- Autechre (1993)
42. Play- Moby (1999)
43. The other day- Jeff Mills (1997)
44. Da Real World- Missy Elliot (1999)
45. Kittens & Thee Glitz- Felix da Housecat (2001)
46. Let us play-Coldcut (1997)
47. Ray of Light- Madonna (1998)
48. Run come save me- Roots Manuva (2001)
49. Chill out- The KLF
50. Northen Sulfuric Soul- Rae & Christian (1998)*

Ok guys, what do you think?

Some comments:

* the list is very UK centric
* a lot of the stuff I wouldn't have picked personally, but I think there have been some glaring ommissions. Not one De la soul album :eek: - if three feet high & rising is not a landmark album, I don't know what is
* where is grandmaster flash? Malcom McLaren? Inner City? Beastie Boys?- if they didn't make landmark albums, I don't know who did!:fiery: :sad:
* Very is probably one of Pet Shop Boy's worst albums. I would have picked Behaviour
* I think Post is a better Bjork album than Debut
* I still can't believe:
- Ray of Light made it:eek:
- BT was top 5:mad: (or even included)
- Blue Lines and Soul II Soul were not in the top 5!:rolleyes:

Beige
Apr 11th, 2002, 05:26 PM
I agree about Malcom MacLaren and Soul II Soul!

Question about Left Field. Are all their songs instrumentals? They have a trip -hopy track on the "Trainspotting" soundtrack that I love and that's the only song I know from them. Can anyone enlighten me about this group? Thanks.

Great list! Lots of memories (makes me feel middle-aged, hehe, but then again I am)

BCP
Apr 11th, 2002, 05:30 PM
Leftfield are instrumental, and started life quite ambient, and trip hopy as you say. Their first few albums were sort of comparable to Future Sound of London. The last couple of albums they have released featured rappers and guest vocalists, and was probably more progressive. I've not really been into them, and don't own any of their albums.

....and I do know what you mean about feeling middle aged....

Jessica02
Apr 11th, 2002, 08:52 PM
:wavey: :wavey: Hola Guys!

Long time now see!
How u doing?

I like Kosheen they seem really cool.
I dont really know much about N.E.R.D I heard there song about lap dance or something?
Yeah Mark I saw 5 nite stand..Base night. Ugh So Solid crew and all this shitty garage music is always on...:fiery:

I love Ja rule...He's so unoriginal but still cant argue with a good beat.
P.Diddy...dont EVEN Get me started I cant stand him...and thats putting it nicely

Is anyone else really Pissed off with Beyonce's Destinys Child...Shuttup please!!!!!

G-Ha
Apr 11th, 2002, 09:12 PM
Hey Jessica (and everyone else) :wavey:

I agree with you about Destiny's Child, although as I said in another BCP thread, I liked them when they first came out. I liked "No, No, No", "Bills, Bills, Bills", and "Jumpin', Jumpin'" if for no other reason than their clever and original titles. ;) Seriously, though, although not particularly great songs, they could get me movin'. I just feel sorry for one of the girls in the second installment of the group that they forced to go to tanning salons because she "didn't fit the group's image" (read: ain't nobody gonna be lighter than Miss Beyonce up in here!).

Ja Rule is another that I kind of liked when he rescued various songs, but now he's worn out his welcome. Do we really need him in EVERY remix made from here on out?

I just saw a N.E.R.D. video this morning before work (can't remember the name), but I don't really remember what the song was like cuz I was too distracted by the guy on the keyboard!:)

BCP
Apr 11th, 2002, 10:31 PM
Hey Jess:wavey: I don't hate Destiny's Child, I just don't particularly like them. I think that they have had 2 outstanding singles though, Bootylicious, and Independent women. I was never a Bils Bils Bils person....that could be because people used to play the accapella over beats all the time in their sets that it gets monotonous. Derrick Carter has bootlegged Bugaboo, which is current out on Igloo music. I love it, though Derrick Carter could fart inmto the microphone, and I'd love it......:)

Beige
Apr 12th, 2002, 02:09 PM
Jessica, I agree with your point "still cant argue with a good beat". The overplayed acts get on my nerves because of overexposure but you have to give them their due-- the beats are rockin'! :) It's nothing against JaRule or even Britney, Christina, Jay-Z, etc. My gripe is with radio stations and their inability (on the pop music level) to give us (listeners) more credit. They always play it "safe" which in turn makes music so predictable (no matter how much it gets your head boppin' and toe tappin', lol).

Lol@Jess & G-Ha for the DC dissection! :D G-Ha wrote: "(read: ain't nobody gonna be lighter than Miss Beyonce up in here!)" LMAO! SO TRUE! I'm sure you guys abroad know about the whole "skin tone" issue with blacks in America. :rolleyes: Anyway, here's a pic of the last time DC was a quartet-- Fara Franklin was let go because she was deemed by Beyonce's dad as too frail to handle the rigors of travelling, rehearsals, etc. They were even fucked up enough to digitally remove Fara from the "Say My Name" video. :mad: Anyway, here's a pic of Fara with the group and as you can see she's Beyonce's complexion and actually has more "mixed" features than Beyonce. :rolleyes:

http://images.viewimages.com/wm/NM004367.JPG

BCP, I didn't know the name Derrick Carter so I looked him up. I found out he used to spin at Shelter in the early 90's and that was a great time for that club! I remember Timmy Regisford
having popular nights at Shelter but Derrick's name isn't familiar.

BCP
Apr 13th, 2002, 03:14 AM
Derrick Carter is quite simply my idol.........

rightous
Apr 13th, 2002, 09:44 PM
Mmm Destiny's Child, I have to say i am a fan, but more of their earlier stuff, i think that was b/c when they came onto the scene they were different and now so many bands are repeating what they have done. I'm not the greatest fan of Beyonce she is too big for her boots and man those thighs could kill ya;) well ok I'll be the ok here near them:p :p

Btw have any of you got Mary J's No More Drama album, lately I have listened to it alot and its very good, her voice is so layered with emotional and heartache you can hear she has lived.

Kisha
Apr 13th, 2002, 09:54 PM
:wavey: guys!

i finally made it to the thread!

Marky - i love 'No More Drama'. it is so great, Mary is one of the best out there and is finally recieving the success she deserves in Britain! Go Mary!:) :bounce:

hey to all in the thread!:)
i hope you dont mind me intruding:) ;)

BCP
Apr 14th, 2002, 05:24 AM
Hey Kisha:wavey: No intrusion at all. It's an open discussion for anyone who likes music.

How's Beverley travelling in the UK? How many singles has she released from the album? The singles have not yet surfaced in Australia, but the album is out.........:)

Kisha
Apr 14th, 2002, 05:40 PM
:wavey:

Beverley's doing good here!:)

she has released two singles from her 'Who I Am' album. They are 'Get up' and 'Shoulda Woulda Coulda'.

Get Up - made number 14 i think, which was a great start for Beverley, but it should have made top 10! i think the carribean roots came through and alot of people didnt like the 'heavy' sound.

Shoulda Woulda Coulda - this made the Radio One 'A' List (thats a sure hit if it does, so thats great) as well as Radio 2's 'A' list.
This song became her first Top 1o hit in the UK! it was so good as finally, she was coming into the status she deserves! It was great to see her top 10!

you should visit www.beverleyknight.com to hear some stuff and find out some info! it's a cool site!:)


Beige - i heard the reason Farah left was cause Beyonce was jealous of her?! i dont know if thats right, but surely they cant get rid of her for that. maybe they made up some excuse to cover it?:confused: lol @ me and my conspiracy theory!;) :)

Beige
Apr 15th, 2002, 02:04 PM
Hey Kay! :wavey: Like G-Ha said, Beyonce's parents wanted to make sure that their daughter was the lightest in the group and Fara was a threat so they booted her. If you see the "Say My Name" video today you'll catch a couple of shots of Fara that they could NOT digitally remove. It sucks but that's show biz.

P.S. Fara has a tell-all book out and I hope she makes some bucks out of that. :)

BCP
Apr 15th, 2002, 11:36 PM
I'm reaqlly confused about the dark light thing. I think that some of the most beautiful women in the world are really dark Alek Wek, Naomi Campbell, Erykah Badu, Angie Stone are all dark, and beautiful. I think tyra Banks is lighter as well. I guess its the same with Asians, especially the Japanese.

I heard that Donell Jones has new material out. I really liked that single You Know What's Up which he did with Left Eye a few years ago. Has anyone heard the new material?

bello
Apr 16th, 2002, 12:00 AM
re:page 1..
U dont know me best song ever...

and...
go Mary J.!!!

Jessica02
Apr 16th, 2002, 12:17 AM
:wavey:

originally posted by ball change pls

I think that some of the most beautiful women in the world are really dark Alek Wek, Naomi Campbell, Erykah Badu, Angie Stone are all dark, and beautiful.

I agree with you, but i think beauty is in the eye of the beholder and comercially, particulary in women of colour lighter is better..Im not so Im not really one to judge, but the people i know who are have this view. Beyonce is pretty ok whatever. I personally think Kele is even more beautiful.

No I havent heard any of Donell's new material I would love to though his last album was very good.

Has anyone heard Tyrese's lastest song 'I like them girls'...Latest its probably been out in America for about a year!
I think its a wicked tune...really like that!...and him ;)

Beige
Apr 16th, 2002, 11:53 AM
Donnell Jones was just on the radio a couple of weeks ago promoting his new album due out in May. The debut single is a ballad that's nice but somewhat predictable. BCP, I love the "You Know What's Up" remix with Left Eye! :D

Jessica, I don't know that Tyrese song. :o They haven't been playing him at all in the last year or so. Speaking of Tyrese, have you seen the movie "Baby Boy"? If you haven't, rent it at some point. Tyrese is so good in it. I hope he acts more. Jess, here's a link if you're interested (no obligation of course, wink)

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0255819

As for the skin tone issue among blacks and other minorities, it's still pervasive but sadly blacks themselves, for example, play "the game", too. Look at rap videos. Those guys still use fair-complected females MORE THAN darker skinned. BCP, I agree with you about Naomi, Erykah, Angie but 8 times out of 10 magazines, TV shows, videos will choose someone about Tyra or Vanessa Williams skin tone. :rolleyes:

BCP
Apr 16th, 2002, 11:41 PM
Tyrese being a good actor surprises me. I guess, I'm just a cynic!

brickhousesupporter
Apr 17th, 2002, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by Jessica02

I agree with you, but i think beauty is in the eye of the beholder and comercially, particulary in women of colour lighter is better..Im not so Im not really one to judge, but the people i know who are have this view. Beyonce is pretty ok whatever. I personally think Kele is even more beautiful.



Finally someone making some sense. I think that Kelley is the pretiest one in the group. I guess I just have something with a woman with a short cut ala toni braxton, halle berry.

BCP
Apr 17th, 2002, 07:10 AM
Beige,

There is a new Masters at Work Box set/album on West End records whereby they respectfully update a lot of freestyle classics, and stuff that Larry Levan played. It might be a bit pricey (though Masters at Work are from Brooklyn I think), but definitely worth checking out. It's a box full of memories for oldtimers like us.

I just bought on 12" their reworking of Loose Joint's "is it all over my face".

Louie Vega and Kenny Dope really know how to do soulful house.


Hey BHS:wavey: Good to see you in the thread again:) . Have you come across any exciting music recently?

Beige
Apr 17th, 2002, 12:12 PM
BCP, I just read an article on M@W ( in the Voice, I think). Little Louie Vega is responsible for introducing local songer India (or La India as the Puerto Ricans call her) to the club world. Louis & Kenny are reliable housers and I always thought they were more creative than Coles & Clivelles who had more clout.

BHS and Jessica, I've always thought that, too, and Kelley was even sexier before they dyed her hair. I think they did this to make each girl in DC distinct but that red hue didn't do anything for Kelley. FYI: Michelle from DC's gospel album dropped yesterday.

BCP, Tyrese will surprise you. He's got screen presence. :)

Jessica02
Apr 17th, 2002, 08:57 PM
:wavey: Guys!

Beige hun - Thanks for the link. it sounds like a cool film i'll rent it out.
Tyrese is hot!! :drool:

Yeah I think Kelley hair looked better before!

Who is Louie Vega?

brickhousesupporter
Apr 17th, 2002, 09:38 PM
BCP the only music I am feeling right now is the song from Dirty Vegas- Days go by. It is part of the Mitsubishi eclipse commercial here in the US. I don't know if you heard about it. It is really strange because it is a house/techno type song. I am not really into that type of music. But this song really struck a cord. I think it has to do with the commercial.

mentos
Apr 17th, 2002, 10:10 PM
I love this topic, oh and by the way, hello everyone--I'm mentos.
I've been reading through this thread and WOW, I so enjoy the discussion.
Sylvester, Jocelyn Brown, Gwen Guthrie, Loose Ends, Sade and more, much more, ALL coming together.
I wasn't able to read every post, there just too many, and I am at work :rolleyes:, but has anyone mentioned the great Rick James. I mean, even before Give it to me Baby and Super Freak (turned Can't Touch This, thanks to Hammer), this man was the man...I mean the MAN.
Cold Blooded
Ebony Eyes
Mary Jane (and by extension The Mary Jane Girls, a group he put together; had hits w/In My House and All Night Long).
It's my opinion, and perhaps others as well, that Prince incorporated, or at least was influenced by Rick James' style.

Also, on Destiny's Child. I was never a fan, but they've had a few songs, definitely from the early days, that I've grooved to on occasion.
They did a re-mix of No No No (not the hip hop version, but a reggae version) w/Wyclef Jean that I dig.

Later for now, but I'm sure to return.
Mentos:cool:

BCP
Apr 17th, 2002, 11:45 PM
Hey Mentos, welcome to the thread:wavey: I know of Rick James, but I never knew he did Superfreak! BTW are you into Imagination or Colonel Abrahams?

My fave Loose Ends tracks are Hangin' on a String (frankie knuckles mix), and Love's got me (David Morale's mix).

Those two guys have produced some of the most perfectly produced house records of our time.

Jessica, Lil' Louie Vega is a house producer and DJ, and with Kenny "Dope" Gonzalez for the house duo Masters at Work. They have had an incredibly distinguished career which spans well over a decade. Lil louie brings soul and latino elemnets to the group, while Kenny Dope brings hip hop elements.

They have a new album out of their work called Our Time is Coming. Check it out. One of the tracks is a reworking of Patti Austin's Butterflies, which is incredible. As previously mentioned, they also have an album out on West End records where they have respectfully updated a lot of the freestyle stuff that was released on west End recrords in the late 70s and early 80s. Both are incredible albums.

BCP
Apr 18th, 2002, 04:24 AM
Some more on MAW: they have their own label, MAW records, and used to record a lot for Strictly rhythm recordsbefore they went pairshaped. They have done remixes for everyone you can think of from Madonna (Kenny Dope mixed Erotica), to Brand New Heavies, Incognito, Kylie Minogue:rolleyes: :p ;) , to many more.

As Beige says, some of their best work has been with India. One stand out reord of hers is I Can't Get no Sleep. Master at Work also work under the guise of Nuyrocian Soul, which released an excellent album in 1999.

Though I love MAW and their work, and recognise the volume and quality of it, they are not on my A list of faves.

BCP
Apr 18th, 2002, 08:33 AM
BTW guys, remeber we were talking about the Club Kids of NYC. They are currently making a film about it with MacCauley Culkin playing Michael Alig:eek: Can you believe that!

Beige
Apr 18th, 2002, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
BTW guys, remeber we were talking about the Club Kids of NYC. They are currently making a film about it with MacCauley Culkin playing Michael Alig:eek: Can you believe that!

I know! What is up with that?! Michael, for those familiar with him, had a "dark" personality to say the least and in real life would've stomped on the likes of the "Home Alone" kid. Lol Well I'll wait until it comes out to judge but it is an odd bit of casting. If it's hard for you to visualize, just think of Michael Alig as that one guy at your local club who EVERYONE knew and he had some clout at your local club. Michael was more than that but that's essentially what he was.

Mentos! http://www.millan.net/minimations/hellos.gif I LOVE Rick James and agree with you, whether Prince wants to admit it or not, that Rick James influenced him to some degree especially the funky side of Prince as well as Prince's stage show. "You and I" and "Mary Jane" (about marijuana, hehe) are my RJ faves as well as his classic duet with Teena Marie "Fire and Desire". :)

Jessica, not sure if it's on video/dvd in the UK but it's a good film! A little bit of everything-- funny, sexy, raunchy, ghetto BUT with better production values AND acting than your typical thug film. And Tyrese can act! :)

BHS, "Days Go By" is hot!! When that Mitsubishi ad starting airing a friend asked me if I knew the song and I thought it sounded like Daft Punk (BCP, it has that vocoder sound). I love the way the girl pop locks in her seat. :D This is the second Mitsubishi commercial to feature a hot song. BHS, do you remember the one from last year with club kids bopping in their cars to a song called "Put Your Body In Motion"?

I'll leave you guys with these quotes from Kelley and Beyonce. :rolleyes:

(They're talking about the Destiny's Child book that just came out)

Naturally, the book lets Knowles, Michele Williams and Kelly Rowland give their spin on the departure of LaTavia Roberson, LeToya Luckett and Farrah Franklin from the group.

"I hate to sound like a B-word," Rowland writes, "but the best feeling in the world was when we first appeared as a trio. Yes, indeed, because I remember how intimidated I felt when [Roberson, Luckett and Franklin] were around. I felt insecure around them, like I wasn't talented, when really I was."

Beyonce writes: "I was unhappy. I hated the way I looked. I hated everything that was going on."

She's happier now.

BCP
Apr 18th, 2002, 10:52 PM
:rolleyes: at Beyonce. Destiny's Child sounds like a the communist Chinese government, spewing propoganda that no one believes.......

MacCauley could make a good Michael Alig. He' sgot the drug problem down pat, and he is PROBABLY gay, and he is rather tragic.......... (BTW I am secretly dying to see it......)

Kisha
Apr 18th, 2002, 11:27 PM
is anyone else really feeling Adam F and Lil Mo, 'Where's my .......'

i cant get that tune outta my head! its so great!

Beige
Apr 19th, 2002, 01:17 PM
Hey Keesh! That joint is a little old here but it's one of Lil Mo's best collaborations. Lil Mo and Ashanti are the queens of guest starring in hip hop. :) Anyway, Mo was just on the radio earlier this week and as I told Ty, she is pregnant. 5 months and counting. She's not recording now and is working as a deejay at a hip hop station in Washington DC. She's cool! :)

BCP, I look forward to the movie. It may turn Culkin's career around. I just hope they get the scene right. (I hated "54" because it made the whole disco scene look "uncool", hehe)

BCP
Apr 20th, 2002, 12:53 AM
I liked Studio 54 for the boy!:eek:

rightous
Apr 20th, 2002, 11:24 PM
:wavey: To all my homies, and BCP;) :p

My personal opinion is Michelle out of the DC crew, she is by far the sexier, and Boyonce her legs could kill ya if ya got into a compromising situation with her:eek:

Oh G-HA, BCP and Beige, did you hear that in the new Pet Shop Boys Album, Neil Tennant wrote a song about sleeping with Mr. Marshall Mathers, it sounds so funn, one of the lines so likes 'The next morning, we awoke and eat b/fast and he started talking about Dre and his homies'.

And Beige, I can't get that Tweet song out of m head, I was singing it at work last week and my manager came up and told me to keep my clothes on:o

BTW guys what do ya think of the new NSYNC song 'girlfriend' can any of you admit to liking it, C'mon be brave:)

BCP
Apr 21st, 2002, 11:30 PM
Hey Rightous,

Good to see you back, even though you're being horrible to me:sad: :p ;)

Trust the Pet Shop Boys to do a track like that. That's why I love them.......:)

Beige
Apr 22nd, 2002, 02:17 PM
Hey BCP-ites! :wavey: I was trying to think of a nickname for the regular members of this thread. :)

Rightous, that comment about Beyonce. Lol But dude, some guys 'n gals like 'em "thick". ;) I agree about Michelle but Kelly's no slouch either; she just has to wash that red out of her hair. ;)

Will look out for the new Pet Shop Boys! My bf just asked me if I wanted to go see them next month and I declined. I hear they put on elaborate show but 2 hours of their music would be too much. Loved "West End Girls" and "Opportunities" but that's about it. Sorry to their fans.

Tweet's song is on the wane here, thank God! Ashanti's kickin Tweet's butt in sales, btw. :) BCP, have you heard it yet? Don't know how well it would do in Oz.

Also, BCP, I was listening to a compilation cd this weekend and Cathy Dennis and D-Mob was on it. Question about D-Mob? Was it an actual group or just one guy? When Cathy performed with D-mOb in the video and in in NYC, it was just Cathy and this black guy with a flat top. Jessica, Kisha and Rightous-- you guys remember the "flat top" when you guys were pre-teens? ;)

Lastly, BCP, are you talking about Ryan Philippe from "54"? :eek: ;) If so, I agree. :)

mentos
Apr 22nd, 2002, 03:41 PM
I definitely love (still) Hanging on String by Loose Ends but I’m not familiar with Loves Got Me, or perhaps it’s just that I don’t recall.
Also, there’s another song of there’s, I think around the same time as the aforementioned one, that I liked a lot when it came out, but now I can remember neither title, nor words, for that matter.
Yes Colonel Abrams…remember him too: Not Gonna Let You Get the Best of Me and others, that I’m also unable to remember. I guess this is just all part of the aging process.
Remember his military uniform-outfit?

Beige, hello! Yeah, Prince definitely owes Rick James (I think he’s doing/on a farewell tour this year) a debt of gratitude.
As for D-Mob, I only remember that one song, performed w/ Cathy Dennis: C’mon and Get My Love (I think).


Mentos:wavey:

Beige
Apr 22nd, 2002, 05:53 PM
Welcome back, mentos!

Was the Loose Ends song "Slow Down" from their "Zagora" album? That was another hit.

Lol@Colonel Abrams and his military outfit. Besides "I'm Not Gonna Let", Colonel's other hit was "Trapped".

Yeah I heard Slick Rick was on some kind of tour. I would like to have been a fly on the wall during Rick's heyday. :eek: I still like hearing the Mary Jane Girls too. :)

Yup, that Cathy & D-Mob's hit from the early 90's.

Don't be a stranger, mentos.;)

G-Ha
Apr 22nd, 2002, 08:59 PM
Interesting point about Rick James influencing Prince -- that idea had never really occurred to me. I see some similarities, but didn't their recording careers begin around the same time (late 70s)? Although, I can see the possibility of influecne considering Rick had some big hits a couple of years before Prince did. My favorite by Rick is "Give It To Me Baby" (love Lady Tee's bit: "I'm tired Rick...let's go home." and "Say WHAT?!")

Rightous, Tweet's "Oops (Oh My)" is pretty infectious. I liked it for a minute when it first came out, but I'm with Beige, I'm glad it's on its way out now.

I haven't heard the Pet Shop Boy's song yet, but I have a friend who's really into them (and he's straight, if you can believe that) and he emailed me a story about that song.

Hmmm...seems BCP is really into blond boys (Muster, Matthew McConaughey, now Ryan Philippe). *g-ha franticly searches for a bottle of peroxide* ;)

BCP
Apr 22nd, 2002, 11:37 PM
I haven't seen Tweet yet, but I saw the Ashanti video on the weekend and thought that it was so-so. Maybe I need to listen to it more.

The Tweet single has been released in Aust, but I don't listen to the radio, so I haven't heard it. I guess I might catch it on Channel V on cable.

D-Mob was only just one guy. I think its a crack up when one guy makes out that he's a whole band!

Though I love Cathy, she was terrible in front of a live audience. I've seen her twice on TV with a live audience, ine time at those Horrible World Music Awards in Monte Carlo, and she sort of freezes, and appears wooden.

I'm not really into Prince, but I thought the big thing was that he had "borrowed" a lot from Hendrix.

My fave Colonel Abrahams record is Trapped. My boyfriend has bootlegged the accapella and put it over a beats record, and he plays it out a lot. It gets a great response everytime.

PSB- so many incredible records. My faves are Being Boring (which has to probably be in my top 50 records of all time), So Hard, and West End Girls. Their last 3 albums have been very ordinary though.

G-Ha, I certainly don't limit myself to blondes (and I really only like Muster from behind........;) )

BTW, Ja Rule Ja Rule Ja Rule EVERYWHERE in Australia... URRRGHHHHHHHHH!

G-Ha
Apr 23rd, 2002, 12:44 AM
Don't worry BCP, you're not missing much with the Tweet video. I think it's really ordinary and actually quite boring. They could've gone in so many directions with that video considering the song's subject matter, and yet they ended up with Tweet singing and attempting to dance in some ice castle. It could've been much better.

And now you know how we here in the States feel about JaRule (at least some us). He's all we've been seeing and hearing for the last several months now and the agony continues!

I also agree with you on the Ashanti song being so-so. At least her video is better than Tweet's.

BCP, glad to hear you don't limit yourself! (g-ha now franticly searches for a certain article of clothing from his soccer-playing days that's featured in BCP's fav pic) :p ;)

BCP
Apr 23rd, 2002, 01:23 AM
G-Ha, you are on the right track there! Soccer players, and soccer uniforms DO IT FOR ME!

Though won't you feel wierd going out to dinner in a soccer uniform?;)

BCP
Apr 23rd, 2002, 01:24 AM
....jock strap or no jock strap..........

G-Ha
Apr 23rd, 2002, 01:28 AM
Who said anything about going out to dinner? ;)

BCP
Apr 23rd, 2002, 01:33 AM
Who said there was food involved?......

G-Ha
Apr 23rd, 2002, 01:49 AM
Food could be fun...

And by the looks of the Muster pic, I'd be wearing a lot less than a uniform!

BCP
Apr 23rd, 2002, 03:14 AM
I think we are making everyone sick.........

rightous
Apr 23rd, 2002, 11:14 AM
Can you two please keep this to yourself I was about to eat, but that's gone completely out of the window:p :p Btw BCP I'm a natural blonde, and I have soccer training later;)

Mmm Tweet, I agree G-HA the video is bad, and there is a BIG lack of males in the video, so that will further spread the Lesbian rumours. I heard some really good reviews forher album.

Yeah i know Ashanti is selling well in the USA, but her voice is pretty annoying, i like the Fat Joe song featuring her, Whats Luv, but she's not my thing.

BCP I have to agree, i like Ctahy as well, but she was never the best live.

Beige
Apr 23rd, 2002, 12:27 PM
http://images.viewimages.com/wm/TS034438.JPG

G-Ha, you know I'm envious. *Sniff* :o And, Rightous, you're such a ho. :p ;)

Oh, I'm not an Ashanti fan, per se. I just can't stand Tweet so I was more than happy to see Tweet lose the record sales showdown. :)

Rightous and Jessica,have you guys heard Musiq's latest? Not much different from songs on "Aijuswanaseing" but the man puts out some solid R&B. :)

mentos
Apr 23rd, 2002, 08:31 PM
Hello again, beige!
Yes, and (thank you), the Loose Ends song that I had in mind was “Slow Down”.
You sure know your music, girl. I don’t know if it’s still on the air, but VH1 had a show akin to Jeopardy, only that the questions were related strictly to music. The title eludes me, but you and a few others in this thread would make great contestants.

Moving on now…

“Trapped” sounds familiar but I’m unable to come up w/the words (maybe you could provide a few, if you recall) or even the tune.

Don't be a stranger, mentos
I’ll heed your advice beige, definitely.

G-HA
I would like to have been a fly on the wall during Rick's heyday.
The stories you would tell…after becoming the first fly in history to complete a 12-step program (lol)…Rick was soooo wild then.

Interesting point about Rick James influencing Prince -- that idea had never really occurred to me. I see some similarities, but didn't their recording careers begin around the same time (late 70s)?
Rick predates Prince (not by much), if I'm not mistaken…he and his band were known in Buffalo (NY) before making big.

My favorite by Rick is "Give It To Me Baby" (love Lady Tee's bit: "I'm tired Rick...let's go home." and "Say WHAT?!")
Then we share a favorite, cause this is also my favorite Rick James song.
Also, I had no idea that it was Teena Marie who provided the female feedback in this song (something new learnt). She’s way cool!

Tweet's "Oops (Oh My)" is pretty infectious.
Yeah. I agree. She has a distinct voice--I’ve been trying to place it. Someone suggested to me that she sounds like Erykah Badu. I’m not sure that’s the case.

Mentos
:wavey:

G-Ha
Apr 23rd, 2002, 08:44 PM
Beige, thanks for that hose down...I really needed it!

So far I'm pretty lukewarm about both Tweet and Ashanti...I need to hear a little more from both (preferably Ashanti minus JaRule) before I can make up my mind.

Anyone here heard that song with the Indian beat and background singing in it? It's probably really old by now considering San Diego gets music really late. I've been hearing it for a few weeks now, but I don't know who sings it...it's kind of growing on me though.

BTW, rightous...thanks to L'Oreal, I can be just as much a "natural blonde" as you! :p

BCP
Apr 24th, 2002, 12:33 AM
Beige, are you really serious that you didn't know that I was Asian? I am the opposite of tall and blond (though I'm not short mind you!)..... or am I just being gullible...

Rightous, do you have an announcement that you want to make to the board which involves swinging doors?:p ;)

I finally got to see the Dawn Robinson video. The recvord is awful, but the video is good, as rightous said months ago.

I read on the train this morning a reviewe from a guy I respect about joi's new album. Joi, I think you guys were telling me, replaced Dawn as lead singer of Lucy Pearl, but I don't think its the same joi as Joi Cardwell. Anyway, he was saying that the album was incredible, and probably the soul release of the year.... a big call considering that Angie Stone's Mahogony Soul, and D-Influence's D-Vas has been released this year. I'll check it out and get back to you.

BTW, am I the only one who finds Usher incredibly annoying......:(

BCP
Apr 24th, 2002, 07:46 AM
It's been a quiet day at work today, so I read this thread from start to finish. Thank you so much EVERYONE for your contributions. Reading the thread bought back a lot of memories,and there are some very very funny posts.

Keep them coming guys!

Beige
Apr 24th, 2002, 01:14 PM
BCP, I sincerely had no clue because it never really came up in conversation. Kind of shallow on my part :o because I just assume all Aussies are white. :o :o *Cowering in front of my pc*
:o :o :o Sorry dude. ;)

G-Ha I wrote a friend about that song in question (with Indian undertones). It's by a girl named Amarie. Not sure of title but it's a hot song (recently added to my local station's playlist).

I think Rick James and Prince both debuted in '78. I had both their albums and loved them equally. I think Rick may have been the impetus for Prince to lean more towards rock in the early 80's because there was the chance they could be lumped together. Smart move on Prince's part. Prince naturally has had the more successful career but in my humble opinion, they're equal in talent and richness of music. :)

BCP, I confuse the Joi's all the time. This is the Joi who was in Lucy Pearl:

http://gs.cdnow.com/graphics/COVERART/AMG/L/82/94/00458294.jpg

and here's Joi Cardwell:

http://gs.cdnow.com/graphics/COVERART/local/L/83/72/00048372.jpg

BCP, does Joi Cardwell do a cover of "Superstar" by The Carpenters? I've heard that and that girl can sing!

Usher is annoying but that song is my current jam for some reason (I didn't care for Ush before). I like Craig David, Donnell Jones, Glenn Lewis and Jaheim of the R&B black pack. :)

Beige
Apr 24th, 2002, 02:47 PM
Follow-up for G-Ha: My bad re: the "Indian song". The name of the group is something like Positive Truth or Truth To Be Told. Rakim (of Eric B fame) lends a few rhymes. :)

And yes, BCP, this thread has been a lot of fun! :) Group hug!

http://www.millan.net/anims/giffar/smileyhug.gif

rightous
Apr 24th, 2002, 03:06 PM
Mmm BCP dude my door just swings the one way at present, and unfortunately I'm with Toni Braxton here'You ain't man enough for me':p :p for indeed Woman enough;) lol @ my man G-HA, bro' you are too funny guy!!!

Gee Man I haven't heard Musiq new song although I know it's doing well in the USA, it will probably take a little time to get here:( My current fave song is Sugababes 'Freak Like Me', BCP have you heard it yet.

Beige of the guys you mentioned I only like Donnell Jones, Craig David as you all know isn't my fave b a long shot, he is as cool and innovative as Aaron Carter on Speed. Jahenim i can't really comment on, as I have only heard two songs by him and one was an awful remix of 'If I don't Come Home' and Glen lewis, sorry Gee Man I know he's your pin-up of the Year but he's kinda a little boring, Sorry:)

BCP you can put me right here, but I thought there were a big Asian population within Aust. esp. Japanese and Singaoperans, maybe I ;m wrong.

Beige
Apr 24th, 2002, 05:58 PM
BCP, the operative words in Rightous' explanation are "at present". :eek: ;) :angel:

Rightous, it's all good. If you're not "feeling" it, you're not "feeling" it. :)

G-Ha, last ditch effort: You are referring to the song that has the lyrics "so contagious" with bongos in the background? Then Rakim steps in for a stanza or two. *Fingers crossed*

P.S. Are they playing Foxy Brown's "Burberry" song out west? She's so tired as is rap songs with designer label name dropping. :rolleyes:

G-Ha
Apr 24th, 2002, 06:43 PM
Thanks Beige, I think that's the one! I knew you'd come through even with my vague description. A local station here started playing that song a few weeks ago, and then I just saw the video on MTV or BET (can't remember which) last week. Hmmm...maybe San Diego isn't as behind as I thought. When I first heard it I was thinking What is THAT?! But something about it hooked me that first time and now I'm totally into it.

I haven't heard anything by Foxy Brown since "I Taste Just Like Candy" and that song came and went really fast.

Beige and BCP, I think with a little coaxing from us, we can get that door of rightous' "swinging both ways"! BTW, nice choice of words Beige in reference to rightous not "feeling" it. :)

Beige
Apr 24th, 2002, 08:13 PM
(g-ha, though he's not "feeling"it now doesn't necessarily constitute that he hasn't "felt" it before. lol. wink.)

Hey guys through all this talk about R&B, House, Acid Jazz and Hip Hop-- I've neglected to ask: do you guys like to dance?
I know Rightous' answer but I will let him tell you himself. :) For the record, I DO! Big time! :D

Jessica02
Apr 24th, 2002, 08:35 PM
:wavey: Hello!

Its seems ive been away a while...interesting convo I must say :p

I love Tweets song...the more I hear it the better it gets!

Im feeling the sugarbabes music too. They are so talented love their style!

Beige baby - i LOVE to dance I do Latin American dancing its very good....very sexy.
Are you a fan of Spanish Artists?
Mark Anthony ,Luis Fonzi, Gerardo...

Mark - Are u sure u dont bat for both teams?

G-Ha
Apr 25th, 2002, 02:23 AM
Oh, my bad mentos...I guess I got so distracted by Beige's fire hose, I overlooked your post.

I agree, Teena Marie is way cool. My favorite by her is "Square Biz". It's funny, whenever I play any of her music around my friends who aren't "in the know", they all assume she's black and can't believe she's actually white.

I don't think I've heard anything by the Sugababes, but I read in another thread they redid "Freak Like Me" by Adina Howard. I have the original and am curious as to what the new one sounds like.

Beige
Apr 25th, 2002, 02:02 PM
G-Ha! Adina Howard! I loved "Freak Like Me"!

Let me lay it on the line
I got a little freakiness inside
And you know that the man
Has got to deal with it
I don't care what they say
I'm not about to pay nobody's way
'Cause it's all about the dog in me

'cause I will be a freak
until the day until the dawn
and we can pump, pump
all through the night till the early morn

;) I know you guys remember that song!

G-Ha,and Mentos, did you guys ever see Teena Marie live? She's incredible! There's been other talented soulful white female singers (Lisa Stansfield, Taylor Dayne, Alison Moyet) but none of them could match Teena's "authenticity", if you will. I dare the teens singers/bands of today to cover one of Teena's songs! :) I think "Lovergirl" would be the safest choice. Hehe

Jessica, I used to teach Latin dancing! :o Cha-cha, mambo, rhumba, merengue-- I taught them all. Okay it was an Anglicized version of it but I still got them shakin' their hips. ;)

What about everyone else-- who likes to dance? ;)

rightous
Apr 25th, 2002, 03:03 PM
Guys my door is only a one way swing door, so I guess you will have to enter through another way(that sounded so much better in my head:)!!lol). Rightous is 'feeling' bro' it's just Rightous doesn't really want to 'feel' it:p

G-HA the Sugababes version has a big dance/R'N'B beat to it, its wicked, I hadn't actually heard of the orginal, guess thats my age;)

Mmm as Biege man knows I like to dancec when I'm out but I'm not big into it, although when you get me drunk I am likely to do a Coyote Ugle number on the bar......and moving swiftly on!!!lol (Oops there gopes my shirt:rolleyes: )

Beige
Apr 25th, 2002, 03:10 PM
Rightous, the original version by Adina Howard is not that old. It came out in the spring of '95. Is that a long time ago to you? I figured you being up on your R&B would've known this cut. Here's a link to hear a snippet of the original:

http://cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=207650987/pagename=/RP/CDN/FIND/album.html/artistid=HOWARD*ADINA/itemid=321434

Rightous is being modest. He was in some black club in NYC or Philly and the "homies" told him that he had "soul". I'll believe it when I see it. :p ;)

rightous
Apr 25th, 2002, 03:21 PM
Yeah I downloaded the orginal last week, I am up with my R'n'B but surely I can't be expected to know every song released, EVER bro' and yes 6 years ago is a long time ago, but I suppose when you get to your age 6 years is a pretty short time when you have lived so long:p :p

And bro' I can Bump and Grind with the best of them;) :p

Beige
Apr 25th, 2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by rightous
And bro' I can Bump and Grind with the best of them;) :p

Yeah yeah yeah-- that's what every white homeboy says and then they end up doing the same ol' corny (allegedly "urban") moves. :rolleyes: :p :kiss:

Have a good weekend everybody...if we don't chat again today! :D

(you know i luv ya marky. wink)

G-Ha
Apr 25th, 2002, 05:27 PM
Unfortunately, Beige, I've never seen Teena Marie live. I agree, few others can match her authenticity (even some black R&B artists don't have the soul she does!)

Oh, I finally found out that our "Indian song" is called "Addictive" and it's by Truth Hurts. I saw a clip of the video again last night, and I heard it on the radio on my way to work. It's getting quite a bit of airplay now.

I'm not much of a dancer (must be the white half of me ;)), but I can hold my own. When I'm at a black club usually the "homies" ask me where I got my booty, not my moves. :eek: :D

Beige
Apr 25th, 2002, 05:37 PM
Originally posted by G-Ha
Unfortunately, Beige, I've never seen Teena Marie live. I agree, few others can match her authenticity (even some black R&B artists don't have the soul she does!)

SO TRUE!!!!!!!! And it would be too easy to name names! ;)

Does your "booty" rival Thomas Muster's? *Cough* ;)

Yes, Truth Hurts! Love the song! Thanks for the specs!
So you see-- San Diego is not behind the times. ;)

G-Ha
Apr 25th, 2002, 07:35 PM
Like I said in another thread, Thomas Muster ain't got nothin' on me! ;) I keep trying to convince bcp of that, but he hasn't taken me up on my offer...yet ;)

BCP
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:31 AM
Hey guys. I think I'll go back to the numbering system:

1. Beige, I thought the 2 Joi's were different. I used to love Joi Cardwell in the mid to late 90's, but I haven't liked her latest album. I don't think she's released anything in about 18 months, but she is an old NY house fave. Have you heard the other Joi's album?

2. Rightous and Jessica, I agree with you. Sugarbabes rock! I haven't heard the new single, but I believe that it samples an old GAry Numan record. I loved their debut album, and the singles Run for Cover, and Overload. I was disappointed when they were dropped from their record co last year, but am glad that they have resigned with another label. Can't wait to hear it!

3. Rightous, being in the Asia Pacific region, Australia has a large asian population, but I think it is still only about 10% of the population. There is a real mix of asian, but proibably mostly a chinese.

4. Give it up Mark!:p You stand no cahnce with Beige, G-Ha, and myself. We'll make a lady out of you in no time!:p ;) ....esp when you ivite us to enter by the other door.....:eek:

5. I never understoof Foxy Brown. My b/f liked her for 5 minutes. I don't get all of that, though I did see her being interviewed once, and she was LOVELY:)

6. Last night I was flicking through the TV, and on Oprah they replayed an old show which had Bebe Winans promoting his new album. They had an array of guests like Stevie Wonder:eek: :hearts:, Stepoheanie Mills, Brian McKnight, and cece Winans. Stehpanie Mills has an incredible live voice.

BTW G-Ha, did you know that Julie McKnight, Brians wife, was the vocalist Kings of tomorrow used on their record "Finally". They wanted to do more work with her, but she didn't want to work on house records. More exposure and money in R & B I guess......

G-Ha
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:44 AM
That's Brian McKnight's wife?! :eek: She is sooooooooo much better than he is! I guess I'll have to cut him some slack now, simply because he's married to her.

I've liked a couple of things by Foxy Brown (although never enough to actually buy them). Doesn't she supposedly hate Li'l Kim? Interesting how Kim releases "How Many Licks" and then months later Foxy releases "I Taste Just Like Candy" -- although they obviously don't contain the same samples, the songs were basically the same content-wise.

BCP
Apr 26th, 2002, 12:47 AM
I can't stand Lil' Kim, but I guess I just don't get that whole genre. I did like some of Salt n' Pepper's stuff though......

Julie McKnight is silly to refuse to work with Kings of Tomorrow again. Sandy would have made her an underground star. Better than a struggling main stream artist......

BCP
Apr 26th, 2002, 02:03 AM
BTW, Marky, I've found that the best way to make a door swing both ways is to give it a good oiling on the other side....... (bring your soccer uniform:p ;) )

BCP
Apr 26th, 2002, 04:03 AM
Beige, re: dancing..... I love to make other people dance, but there nothing more fun than a good workout on a disco dancefloor with a group of friends........:)

rightous
Apr 26th, 2002, 11:08 PM
lol @ u guys, BCP bro' my back door is definely a no fly zone, anythingfound nearing that zone will get shot down, but knowing you the problem may be getting it to shoot up:p ;)

I'm with BCP i don't like either Lil'Kim or Foxy Brown, not my thign at all, Foxy Brown trys too hard, and has little or no talent IMHO.

Its so sad that Left Eye has died, did TLC finish their 4th album, such a loss to a great group.

Jordan.
Apr 27th, 2002, 04:33 AM
Hey all,I never came in here alot because I just started getting into R&B..

My favorite R&B singers are India Arie,Res,Erykha Badu,and Tweet.

Have yall heard of Res?Shes a very talented singer.

Beige
Apr 29th, 2002, 01:20 PM
Welcome aboard, Jordan! :wavey: I like Res' sound-- she's trying to do some rock-tinged R&B and that's fine. If you guys didn't already know, Res is a former member of Brownstone. (Kina her bandmate tried the same thing 2 yrs ago-- got critical praise but went belly up)

Have been meaning to share this Angie Stone gossip for a week:

Rumor had it that Angie was in concert a month ago in the NYC area and while singing her hit "Brotha", Angie said: "all my brothas put your hands up-- all you homos put your hands down." It was reported on 3 local stations but there was no backlash to speak of. Well, last week Angie calls into the station that first broke the "story" and addressed the "drama". She said it was a lie planted by some "shady" people who wanted to get back at Angie for firing a couple of members of her touring band who just happened to be gay. She said she's not a homophobe AND that it was the gay audience that has helped her remixes do well on the dance charts (she even went to #1 because of club play in gay clubs) so why would she say something like that. I believe her completely because in the NYC area, SOME gays can be quite nasty and start smear campaigns against known people. GO ANGIE! :)

P.S. BCP, YES, there are 2 Joi's. The one who goes under just Joi is the one who was in Lucy Pearl. :)

DEETHELICK
Apr 29th, 2002, 04:37 PM
Hi, like Jordan, I too am a fan of RnB/Soul/Rap but am from the UK so my tastes may differ.

I'm a big fan of Missy Elliot, some Dr Dre, Destiny's Child, Ja Rule, J-Lo, Ashanti, Nelly, Jay-Z, Craig David and many more.

Have you guys heard of Mis-teeq?

Interesting posts here!!

Dee :)

Beige
Apr 29th, 2002, 05:14 PM
Welcome Dee! :wavey: While we discuss a lot of R&B, it's NOT restricted to that and other American music. Jessica, Rightous, Ty and Kisha will give us the UK low down. BCP, our Aussie topic starter, will give us the scoop on the latest in House and Acid Jazz as well as reflect on the past. G-Ha, from San Diego, is a jack of all trades. Then there's me. Basically, I just bump the thread up. ;)

Mis-teeq? I've heard the name but couldn't name a tune. Fill us in. :)

DEETHELICK
Apr 29th, 2002, 08:02 PM
Hey :wavey:

Mis-teeq are a girl band here in the UK, they are a trio of sassy ladies who do RnB/garage/soul and even some reggae.

Their songs include 'One Night Stand' 'All I Want' and 'Why?'

They have a lot of remixes are and are very popular at the clubs I go to! :)

BCP
Apr 30th, 2002, 12:07 AM
Hey Jordan, Hey Deethelick, welcome to the thread. Deethelick, I know Misteeq are big in the UK, and they have a hit with their current single in Aust (I forget what it's called). I really can't get into them. Their records start off as 2-step garage, and then go into this jungle breakdown with reaggaerap over them. To me, it sounds odd, but it has certainly worked for them in terms of records sales. I like Craig David though.....Is there any news of a followup album in the UK?

Jordan, I still haven't seen Tweet, and I want to know what all the fuss is about, but I love India Arie, and Erykah Badu.

Beige, I would be devastated if Angie said that, as she is my fave vocalist at the moment. We'll give her the benefit of the doubt. The official release of Wish I didn't miss you has a terrific Spen & Karizma mix of Brotha on it. I hear that there is also an incredible 2-step version of Brotha going around, and would love to get my hands on a copy.

G-Ha, Julie McKnight has a new house record out on Defected. I think it's called Home, but I haven't heard it yet. It's on Defected, which isn't really a great label. Defected's best release was probably Soulsearcher's "I can't get enough" released in 2000. Maybe Julie couldn't break it into R & B, or maybe she just didn't like Kings of Tomorrow, which is a shame, because they put her on probably the best vocal house record of the last 10 years.

DEETHELICK
Apr 30th, 2002, 10:12 AM
Hey all,

Nope, no sign of a Craig david follow up just yet. He seems to have shifted base to America, but I think he is working on something! His music was kool, esp '7 days' and 'walking away'

Misteeq are very big here, as they have close links with another garage group 'So Solid Crew', their music always starts as 2 step and then moves into reggae sounds/swing.

Tweet has just come out here as in her 1st song!

Are u guys fans of Alicia Keys? What a talent!!

Whats the latest song that guys are listening to?

My two favs at the mo (even tho they are slightly old) are J-Lo & Ja Rule Aint It Funny and Fat Joe and Ashanti Whats love :)

Jessica02
May 1st, 2002, 12:02 AM
:wavey: Hello!!

Deethlick, Jordan...Welcome! :kiss:

Numbering system works...

1. Who likes Chacka Khan?...Shes wicked I was watching something about her on VH1 and she rocks they certainly dont make em like they used to...I sound like a granny and im only 17!

2. Deethlick - Mistiqee- I dont think much of them at all 'B wit Me' was a decnent tune but other than that..No the MC in the band has alot of talent the other 2 are just there to look good.

3. Nelly - pfff....No way how talentless unoriginal do you want to get as far as Im concerned he is in the same bracket as kylie...!

4. Huge Alicia fan here!!!!! Love everything she's ever done great prospect! :D :D

5. Wookie fans?...I think we mentioned him on like pg 3 or something but do you guys like his stuff, and has he got any new material out.

6. Why is everyone using Bollywood Beats in the lateat songs?
It was originally a good idea by Missy for 'Get ur freak on' but everyone is doing it now. people need to think for themselves!

7. :sad: :sad: Lisa..R.I.P

BCP
May 1st, 2002, 08:39 AM
Hey Jess:wavey: There is a huge Chaka Khan Love Club membership in this thread. She is so incredibly awesome, and so underrated. So many incredible records over such a long period. I loved her record with de la soul in 2000 called no good.

Wookie is currently working on a follow up album. He has been doing a lot of remixes for other artists recently as well. LOVE Wookie.

Jessica, I've been a procrastinator and not yet got Alicia Keys' album. I think the urge has passed for me.

I'm so over Bollywood beats:rolleyes: I think that sample is being used a lot in progressive house records:rolleyes: , and hardhouse records:rolleyes: :rolleyes: at present, and the Eurpoeans are the worst offenders! UUURGGHHH! they are raping my ears!

Dee, what do you think of J-Lo's look in the A'int it funny video?

DEETHELICK
May 1st, 2002, 11:13 AM
Hi Jess and BCP

Misteeq: Yep they pretty much rely on the MC to sell their songs, the other two are just props, but I still like thier songs, very catchy!

J-Lo: Aint it funny video, she looked okay, but looked v kool in the purple outfit....funky :)

Bollywood beats are old and find that altho the novelty was good at the time, it needs to be let go. Bubba Sparx used Missy's track well in his song 'Ugly' I thought that was pretty clever!

rightous
May 1st, 2002, 01:43 PM
Hey Guys:wavey:

I'm with Jess on this Dee I'm not a big fan of Mis-teeq as all, the MC girl's voice goes right through me and if I met her I might have to ram a mic down her throat, Sorry. I thought the Remix of 'Why' was very funky, but they are trying too hardf IMHO.

Jess and Dee have you heard Ms Dynamite's song 'it Takes More', she is going to BIG, the song is so funky, BCP, G-HA and Gee Man you guys will be blown away, her first song is a diss on the rappers, who she says prmote violent, sex and drugs and are in themselves promoting racisma and stereotypical views of her culture. It's just what R'n'B/Hip Hop needs, is a good kick up the butt.

I heard Tweet's on a live show last week, she sang 3 songs, I was very impressed with her range of style, she is more soulful and talented than I giver her credit for, I like her groove, her voice is unique as well.

BTW Has Chante Moore died and went to no-career heaven

Also Gee Man I was reading an interview of Sparkle last week, who said the girl in the infamous R-Kelly video was her niece, and she is disgusted and ashamed, i don't know if Kelly is going to escape this so easily.

rightous
May 1st, 2002, 02:22 PM
Oh BTW I dopwnloaded the lyrics of Tweet's Oh My song and downloaded the remix version as well with Ludacris and I found the best line in a song ever, where he says 'Oops there goes my kids all over your face, Oh My':eek: :eek: A Classic if I heard one!!lol

brickhousesupporter
May 1st, 2002, 11:56 PM
Righteous

The first time i heard that line i was RTFLMAO. Oh but a slight correction, I think the rapper is fabolous. Did you download from Kazaa, I saw a couple of songs that listed ludacris.

Beige
May 2nd, 2002, 01:06 PM
bhs, it is Fabolous. Good one, Rightous! It breathes a little new life into the overplayed hit. ;)

BCP, Angie called into the radio show that broke the story to refute the allegation: she said it was a lie someone made up to to avenge the firing of Angie's two band members who happened to be gay. :)

Craig David is still here in the US. In fact, "Walking Away" has just been released as a single so they're really milking this last album for everything. Craig will perform in this package tour this summer. It's one of those tours with about 25 acts who perform 4 or 5 songs each over 5 hours. He'll be with Mary J. Blige, Alanis, some rappers, some teens acts, etc.

Jessica, you go girl! Keep buying or downloading Chaka Khan (her real name's Yvette Stevens). She's the best!!! Oh, Jess, btw, guess where Chaka lives most of the time??? London! :)

Bollywood Beats? Don't know the term so I looked it up. Are these dance mixes with an Eastern Indian flavor?

Rightous, thanks for the scoop on Ms. Dynamite. From a UK site:

MS DYNAMITE (Polydor) IT TAKES MORE
Following her debut hit "Boo" with a serious change of style, but her atitude and lyrical prowess firmly in place, is London's favourite frecracker, Ms Dynamite. It's been a while since her break out single, but the wait's been well worth it, as Dynamite takes a far from guarded swipe at the bling bling excesses of the ghetto fabulous. Gone are the ragged 2-step beats of "Boo" now replaced by slick R&B/Hip Hop fusion that gives her biting social commentary added weight. Although utterly authentic, Ms Dynamite sounds like a British Lauryn Hill on her new track and like Hill, she draws you in seductively before delivering a knockout blow. Play listed by Radio 1 nearly two months ahead of release, this single has "hit" written all over it, and I'm fully expecting her career to explode in 2002. (Out May).
Verdict: Sheer…dynamite and bound to blow up.

Rightous, Chante Moore is still around. She recently married R&B singer Kenny Lattimore; she's expecting, due this summer. Last recording was a trio with Ron Isley and R. Kelly. Speaking of the pedophile, yes it's true about Sparkle. She's actually exploiting this situation to revive her short-lived career. :rolleyes:

Lastly...JUST FOR FUN...check out the various music charts from the US (feel free to post the charts from the UK and Oz!)

DANCE/CLUB
1 Can't Stop Dancin', Inaya Day

2 Escape (Remixes), Enrique Iglesias

3 Fire, Dolce

4 They-Say Vision (Dance Remixes), Res

5 To Get Down, Timo Maas

6 Alive, Kevin Aviance

7 Flawless, The Ones

8 Wish I Didn't Miss You (The Remixes), Angie Stone

9 Soak Up The Sun (Victor Calderone & Mac Quayle Mixes), Sheryl Crow

10 It's Gonna Be...(A Lovely Day), Brancaccio & Aisher

11 Be.Angeled, Jam & Spoon

12 For A Lifetime (Alex Gold Remix), Ascension

13 No More Drama (Thunderpuss Remixes), Mary J. Blige

14 If You Fall (The M.A.S. Collective Mixes), Ad Finem

15 Funny Car, Morel

16 Get Down Massive, Freestylers

17 Mindcircus (Remixes), Way Out West Featuring Tricia Lee Kelshall

18 Insatiable (Remixes), Darren Hayes

19 The More I Love You, MFF Featuring Andrea Martin

20 Underneath Your Clothes (Remixes), Shakira

R&B/HIP HOP

1 Foolish, Ashanti

2 U Don't Have To Call, Usher

3 I Need A Girl (Part One), P. Diddy Featuring Usher & Loon

4 Pass The Courvoisier Part II, Busta Rhymes Featuring P. Diddy & Pharrell

5 What's Luv?, Fat Joe Featuring Ashanti

6 halfcrazy, Musiq

7 Makin' Good Love, Avant

8 Addictive, Truth Hurts Featuring Rakim

9 Rainy Dayz, Mary J. Blige Featuring Ja Rule

10 I Love You, Faith Evans

11 Anything, Jaheim Featuring Next

12 Oops (Oh My), Tweet

13 Oh Boy, Cam'ron Featuring Juelz Santana

14 Down A** Chick, Ja Rule Featuring Charli "Chuck" Baltimore

15 Gots Ta Be, B2K

16 Saturday (Oooh! Ooooh!), Ludacris Featuring Sleepy Brown

17 One Mic, Nas

18 Awnaw, Nappy Roots

19 Still Fly, Big Tymers

20 Full Moon, Brandy

brickhousesupporter
May 2nd, 2002, 01:32 PM
About bollywood beats have you guys heard the song by Truth Hurts it is called addictive. It definitely uses an east indian flavor. I really like it though so if you haven't heard it check it out. I think they are produced by Dr. Dre because he is very prominent throughout their video.

Righteous, Chante is still around. But I just stop feeling her when she felt the need to tell everyone she had a man at home. At first I thought ok it is nice but they played all the time. Then proceeded to remix it and then play it all the time again. Isn't it funny that she broke up with the good man shortly after the song came out (Kadeem Hardison) .

Beige
May 2nd, 2002, 01:41 PM
bhs, G-Ha and I both like "Addictive" by Truth Hurts who is actually a solo artist, not a group-- I thought it was a group, too because of the name. Yup, she (Truth Hurts) is a Dr. Dre protege and accroding to my local dj, Turth is no spring chicken. I haven't seen the video so I don't know by my dj was implying that Truth was lying about her age; she says she's in her 20's but my dj was like "yeah right". Lol

P.S. Lol@Chante and Kadeem. Ms. Moore must like the letter. Who's her next husband going to be? Kobe? Keyshawn Johnson? Khalil Kain? ;)

BCP
May 3rd, 2002, 12:55 AM
Beige, thanks for posting the charts. How awful is the dance chart! too awful for words......

Beige
May 3rd, 2002, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
Beige, thanks for posting the charts. How awful is the dance chart! too awful for words......

You took the words out of my mouth, my friend!! And it's so common in the States for dance mixes of pop songs like Sheryl Crowe to become club hits. :rolleyes: :fiery:

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rightous
May 6th, 2002, 07:52 PM
Here's the charts from the good ol' UK, I have to say a little better than the USA :p

The R&B Chart
From Trevor Nelson (04/05/02)


1. Girlfriend - *Nsync Feat. Nelly
2. My People - Missy Elliott Feat. Eve
3. Oops (Oh My) - Tweet
4. No More Drama - Mary J Blige
5. U Turn - Usher
6. Without Me - Eminem
7. What's Luv - Fat Joe Feat. Ashanti
8. Ain't It Funny - Remix Jennifer Lopez Feat. Ja Rule & Cadiilac Tah
9. It Takes More - Ms Dynamite
10. Always On Time - Ja Rule Feat. Ashanti Douglas

DANCE CHARTS
1 ( ) AT NIGHT SHAKEDOWN DEFECTED
2 ( ) SUNGLASSES AT NIGHT TIGA AND ZYNTHERIUS CITY ROCKERS
3 ( ) TAKE ME AWAY INTO THE NIGHT 4 STRINGS VIRGIN
4 ( ) SHIFTER TIMO MAAS FT MC CHICKABOO PERFECTO
5 (2) LAZY X-PRESS 2 FT DAVID BYRNE SKINT
6 ( ) EXPLORATION OF SPACE COSMIC GATE DATA/MOS
7 ( ) TRULY ONE ORIGIN UNKNOWN RAM
8 (3) YOU GOT ME BURNING/FUZION PESHAY FT CO-ORDINATE CUBIK MUSIC
9 ( ) LOVING THE ALIEN SCUMFROG VS BOWIE POSITIVA
10 (5) TRANZY STATE OF MIND PUSH INFERNO
11 (1) COME WITH US/THE TEST CHEMICAL BROTHERS VIRGIN
12 (8) RUSH HOUR/BLIND BAD COMPANY BC RECORDINGS
13 ( ) OH BABY DJ RASOUL HOOJ CHOONS
14 (13) SHAKE UR BODY SHY FX & T POWER FT DI POSITIVA
15 ( ) FRENCH KISS HONESTY 69 BCM
16 (4) HUNGRY KOSHEEN ARISTA
17 (7) YOU MAKE ME GO OOOH KRISTINE BLOND WEA
18 ( ) NEVER FUCK ROMANTHONY'S NIGHTVISION VIRGIN
19 ( ) BACKFIRED MASTERS AT WORK M.A.W.
20 ( ) DO YOU REMEMBER ME/LOST ANGEL SUV FT MC TALI/DJ CRAZY ANGEL FULL CYCLE


Btw Gee Man have you heard of Res, what did ya think and has anyone heard the new Maxwell single??

Beige
May 6th, 2002, 08:02 PM
Rightous, I like Res. She (and her record company) are trying to corner a market that's currently not filled: the black rocker chick.
I was talking to a friend of a friend a month or so ago who works for Res' label and she told me that the label was promoting Res' album heavily but have faced resistance from rock radio. She said Res' songs weren't as accessible as say Lenny Kravitz's which makes crossover success that much more difficult. Res' sound is cool and she can sing. Maybe it'll take another album for her to make some sales impact.

Thanks for the charts. Nelly and N'sync? LOL :p

BCP
May 7th, 2002, 01:39 AM
Thanks for posting the chart Rightous. The dance chart is still pretty awful.

Some thoughts/questions:

1. Is Ashanti Douglas the same Ashanti that Beige has been talking about?

2. Ja Rule UUURGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

3. What is the Missy Elliot record like. Though I admire her work, I don't own one Missy record....incredible

4. I heard the X-press 2 record when I was out on Friday, and quite liked it. I haven't really been into X-press 2 for about 3 years, but it had a really nice baseline, and the David Byrne vocal was nice......not sure if I liked it enough to buy it though. It might take another couple of listens. Have you heard it Rightous

5. I bought a copy of the Sugarbabes record. It's fantastic. There are 2-step and brekbeat mixes on the 12.

6. "Backfired" is the new Masters at Work record feat India. It's really good. Beige, you should check it out.

7. I am afraid of the track called "Sunglasses at Night". I picture it to be a cheesy euro-trance cover of the Corey Hart record....EEEEEWWWWW!

8. I never thought that I would see the day when a great house producer like DJ Rasoul would record on such an awful label like Hooj Choons

mentos
May 9th, 2002, 04:27 PM
Welcome aboard Dee and Jordan!
Beige—hi there!
Sorry it’s taken so long for me to respond to you’re inquiry:
G-Ha,and Mentos, did you guys ever see Teena Marie live?
No. I’ve never had the opportunity. At the height of Teena’s popularity, I was not yet old enough to attend any of her live shows. My loss!
other talented soulful white female singers (Lisa Stansfield, Taylor Dayne, Alison Moyet)
I’m familiar with Lisa S. and Taylor D., but not Alison Moyet.
Lisa S. (I wonder what happened to her career) was hot for a minute. I liked This is the Right Time best of all, even though her big hit was All Around the World.

Jessica, Chaka Kahn can blow. Some people seem to think her career started with I Feel For You (written by Prince) and the vocals she provided on Steve Winwood’s hit Higher Love. My favorite one of her songs is Sweet Thing-- so filled with soulful innocence (I'm sounding like a freakin' music critic :rolleyes: here). Ever head Mary J. Blige’s remake? It’s good, but it’s not Chaka.

Mentos:wavey:

Beige
May 9th, 2002, 05:32 PM
Hey Posse! ;)

Welcome back, mentos! :wavey:

1. Mentos, although I was old enough to see Lady Tee back in her heyday, I never did...until the summer of 1994, she played in a small club and I went to the late show. As we waited outside, the early show crowd came out and one woman said to us: "Y'all are in for it!" And she was right: Teena is a powerful performer! More artistic (felt every note of her songs) onstage and not diva-esque at all.

2. So true about "I Feel For You" and Chaka. Eeveryone thought she had just burst onto the scene in '84. Hehe "Sweet Thing" is my all-time fve CK (Rufus) song!! Wasn't too crazy about Mary J.'s version but that's all because I'm biased. :o

3. BCP, yup, that is the same Ashanti. They're more proper in the UK and Oz. lol ;)

4. No clue on Missy. My bf bought the remix for "get Ur Freak On" but that's all we own by the Ms. Elliott. Maybe G-Ha, Jess and Rightous can render an opinion? :)

5. BCP, it's approaching summer here and that only means (musically) that India will release another single. I look forward to it as always. Her summer singles never get tiring because it gets very little radio airplay so we have to go out to hear it. :)

6. Lol@Corey Hart reference! I dread hearing this new remix, too.

7. Lastly, who remember from 1993-1994, Boy Krazy, a female trio from the UK with the fluffy single "That's What Love Can Do"? I heard it on the radio the other night for the first time since '94.

P.S. Have we mentioned Gabrielle with the eye patch? Memory lapse. :o

mentos
May 9th, 2002, 06:40 PM
Beige, I am so mistaken!
I do know who Alison Moyet is, and just didn’t realize it.
She was lead singer of the group Yaz.
My discovery came about shortly after I made the post re: not being familiar with her.
Lo and behold that song, which I always thought was called "Move Out" (the chorus, and not the title – Situation) popped into to my head and I started singing it, but I couldn’t think of the artist(s). I asked my co-worker, and she said Yaz. Then we got into a discussion about Yaz and how they were 1) either originally two guys under a different name or that 2) Alison joined and the new group was renamed Yaz. Not quite sure, so I’ll have to do a little research.
7. Lastly, who remember from 1993-1994, Boy Krazy, a female trio from the UK with the fluffy single "That's What Love Can Do"? I heard it on the radio the other night for the first time since '94.
Sounds vaguely familiar, I think. I could be confusing it with another song with a similar title.
Also do you beige, or any one else posting in this thread recall the British singing group Five Star, all family members, I believe. They had a few hits, mainly on the
R & B charts, in the early eighties including a song called All Fall Down (the only one I can still remember)

mentos
May 9th, 2002, 07:10 PM
Sorry for blathering on about Yaz, but I’m listening to their greatest hits CD (which my co-worker has, and was kind enough to loan me) and in so doing, made another discovery. The beat for Situation was sampled by Nucleus on their one major hit Jam On It (a rap/dance groove from the eighties).
I think I’m done now!
I hope!

Beige
May 9th, 2002, 08:20 PM
mentos, you got it! I think they were known as Yaz in the States and Yazoo in the UK and Oz. Anyway, Alison can sing!! *Bopping my head thinking of "Situation"*

Lol@Newcleus (that's how those kids spelled it)! Mentos, I saw Newcleus at a club in L.A. back in '83 or '84 (yup, I'm the "senior statesman" of the crew, hehe)

Mentos, we discussed it before but do you remember a song from the Yaz era but performed by ?? (BCP help!) called "Illusion" ("It's just an illusion")? It was a great skating song. :)

"All Fall Down" and "Let Me Be The One" are the only Five Star songs I remember.

Come back soon, mentos! :)

My fave song at the moment: "Wish I Didn't Miss You" by Angie Stone! It makes me so happy! EVERYBODY, WHAT'S YOUR CURRENT FAVE SONG???!!

G-Ha
May 9th, 2002, 08:21 PM
Mentos! Finally someone else around here mentioning Five Star other than me. :D Aside from "All Fall Down", there was "Let Me Be the One" (my personal fav), "RSVP", "If I Say Yes" and "Are You Man Enough". I don't think they released anything (in the US at least) after about 1987.

Beige, I remember Gabrielle...I think I even owned one of her CDs but now I can't even think of any songs by her.

Chaka is my all-time fav...she really can do no wrong in my eyes! In fact, I was just talking to a co-worker the other day about Chaka, and was horrified when the co-worker said she didn't really like Chaka and "her screaming"! And this coming from a black woman no less! ;) But I was able to at least get her to agree that Chaka is 10 times better than Whitney.

I like Missy, but I tend to lean towards her earlier work. My fav by her is "Sock it 2 Me" and I also liked her part in the remix of Mariah's "Heartbreaker" (actually, come to think of it, Missy is the ONLY part of that song I like).

Beige, you'll have to clue me on some of Idia's summer songs, because I haven't heard much by her in the last couple of years.

moon
May 9th, 2002, 10:40 PM
OK, I just had to come in here to vent to some other music lovers like myself. ;)

Yesterday I had the TV on BET, and what video comes on but a REMAKE of "It Takes Two" by Rob Base! And guess who was "singing" it. That little 12 year old, Lil Romeo! Is nothing sacred? I know Rob Base wasn't the greatest rapper, but that song is like a hip-hop classic, and this little 12 year old remakes it? He's even saying the same words and everything.:eek: Doesn't anyone know the meaning of the word originality anymore?

OK, my tirade is over. ;)

BCP
May 9th, 2002, 11:34 PM
Moon, I relate completely- NOTHING IS SACRED! I have had to have about 10 eye transplants, I've worn them out rolling them so much. Let's start with Alien Ant Farm's cover of Smooth Criminal.......LOL :rolleyes:

Mentos, Beige, I loved Yazoo. Allison Moyet had an incredible voice, but really couldn't get her solo career going. Remember "Invisible" and the Old Devil Called Love? Yazoo kinda remionds me of ABC who were in the same era, and had the same sort of sound. Those two plus Style Council, and Swing Out Sister were my favourite 80s bands.

My fave Chaka Khan records are fate, I feel you I live you (I never get that title right, but you guys know what I mean), and I Feel for You.

Beige, LOL, I tray to say away from groups called Boy Krazy-LOL, too gay!;)

G-Ha, India's new record is a MAsters at Work production called Backfired. It's a great rocord. It's off the new MAsters at Work album "Our time is coming". I highly recommend the CD (i think its a double CD)

Beige, I remember Gabrielle. She's still huge in the UK I think. Her biggest international hit was Dreams, but she has had a slew of hits since. Her sound has gotten more retro - I think she did the opening track to the Julia Roberts movie Notting Hill, and she had a greatest hit CD out recently.

BTW, I heard the new Naughty by Nature record, and really like it- a welcome return to old school feel good hip hop. Glad to see the Hip House artists of the early 90s making a return.

Finally- a warning for all- be very very afraid. Australia has produced a Kylie clone- her name is something Valance and she has shot straight to number one in the UK with a single called Kiss Kiss- Rightous, you probably can't get away from it- you have been warned- IT'S AWFUL!:mad:

BCP
May 9th, 2002, 11:46 PM
BTW Beige- love all your avatars!

Beige
May 10th, 2002, 01:49 PM
Moon and BCP, I hear ya! :mad: Don't even get me started on covers and sampling! :fiery:

Speaking of remakes and Five Star, teen star Mandy Moore remade Five Star's "Let Me Be The One". :rolleyes:

I was listening to a dance station last night and they played The Shamen's "Move Every Mountain". Any recollections? I think it was out in '94 or '95. Cool song, I thought.

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND TO ALL!!!

P.S. BCP, this avatar's for you. ;)

mentos
May 10th, 2002, 03:43 PM
Beige:
Alison’s voice truly is divine. When I was younger, I thought it was a dude singing.
And that laugh…that laugh of hers=way cool!
By the way, thought I was…but I’m not yet done blathering on about Yaz. It seems, according to another of my co-workers, that the male half of Yaz (don’t know his name) later became lead singer of Depeche Mode; he then went on to sing lead for Erasure. So move over Kevin Bacon, here comes the “Six Degrees of Yaz”.

G-Ha, many of us seem to have forgotten all about Five Star. When ever a discussion of eighties R&B arises between me and my friends, I’m the only for whom the group Five Star rings any kind of bell. I always considered them a precursor to “The Jets”. Remember them!? They were from Hawaii. Their one song that I can remember the title to is I’ve Got A Crush On You.

G-Ha, you can’t deny Whitney Houston’s talent---she has a great voice. No. She’s not in Chaka’s league, because that would be comparing apple pie to a three –tier, double fudge-layered chocolate cake. Chaka’s voice has richness and texture and soul and on and on…but Whitney’s no slouch IMO!

Missy is a versatile talent—I’ll give her that much. I’m just tired of her gimmicky lyrics. That’s not to say that when I’m out at a club/party I stop shaking my money maker when her music come on--you just won’t catch me walking into my local HMV and purchasing her CD.

Before I go, do you guys (all who post in here) remember Klymaxx? Perhaps they’ve already been mentioned, but they were an all female band. Band in the true sense of the word too—these ladies played their own instruments!
There had two songs off their first album (don’t know the title) that I can remember:
Meeting In the Ladies Room and
The Men All Paused (my favorite). There’ a line where the lead singer (Yvette ?, I think) says:
Don’t slap me! Cause...I’m…Not…In…The…Mood.

Moon, you’re right—who needs originality!
We can thank the likes of Puff /P “dog face” Daddy/Diddy for taking sampling an all time low.
At least in the past, the music being sampled was accompanied by original lyrics/rhymes, what have you.
I don’t know the title of the song, (cause I tend to switch channels or turn my radio off when I’m disgusted), but the rhyme was lifted directly from RUN DMCs’ classic, Sucka MCs: “A few years ago a friend of mine asked me to say some MC rhymes. The rhymes were deff and the went this way…”
I wanted to :fiery:

brickhousesupporter
May 10th, 2002, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by moon
OK, I just had to come in here to vent to some other music lovers like myself. ;)

Yesterday I had the TV on BET, and what video comes on but a REMAKE of "It Takes Two" by Rob Base! And guess who was "singing" it. That little 12 year old, Lil Romeo! Is nothing sacred? I know Rob Base wasn't the greatest rapper, but that song is like a hip-hop classic, and this little 12 year old remakes it? He's even saying the same words and everything.:eek: Doesn't anyone know the meaning of the word originality anymore?

OK, my tirade is over. ;)

you are kidding me. That is one of my favorite songs. It is just one of those songs that can get your moving. I just can't believe that he would take on such a song. Moon, or anyone which is worse the Lil Romeo remake of it takes two or the Nick Cannon version of Parents just don't understand.

I have not heard the lil romeo version so I have no idea which one is worse, but I cant be as bad as the remake of Will Smiths song.

Beige
May 10th, 2002, 05:32 PM
Mentos, I love Alison. Do you know her album called "Alf"? That's my fave. Veteran soul songwriter Lamont Dozier wrote "Invisible" for Alison and it's on that album as is "Honey For The Bees" which Patti Austin remade. Kudos on the connect the dots to Erasure via Yaz. :) I thought Alison was a man for a short spell until I was "schooled" by some friends during that time. "That Ole Devil Called Love" is brilliant.

The Jets are actually from Salt Lake City via Tonga. I can't remember how many siblings were in the group but there were many of them! "Crush On You", "Curiousity" and "You Got It All" were their hits. I'm Polynesian (have some Tongan in me, too) so we were all happy to see some of our own have their "15 minutes". Hey, they had a #1 hit which isn't bad for a bunch of Mormon kids. (The first sinne the Osmonds, lol) :)

Mentos, I can't dance to Missy's music either! It's okay over cocktails or riding in the car but it won't get me on the dance floor. I do think she's talented, though.

Klymaxx?! OMG! Lol I love that line, too, mentos! I loved "The Men All Pause" ("I got my Kenneth Cole shoes on...), "Meeting in the Ladies Room" and "I Miss You". The lead singer, Fenderella, had a solo hit. Bernadette Cooper still produces, I believe. They were gimmicky but fun. :)

bhs, I haven't heard the remake but why redo it? It wasn't even that great the first time around. Nice hook but nothing more than that. I tell you if Lil Bow Wow comes out with "Benita Applebum", there will be hell to pay!! :fiery:

G-Ha
May 10th, 2002, 05:34 PM
mentos, great analogy between Chaka and Whitney...I couldn't agree more! Chaka's voice has so much more depth and soul to it than Whitney's, which is clearly evidenced in Whitney's cover of "I'm Every Woman". In Chaka's original, the vocal delivery is effortless and smooth, whereas Whitney screams throughout her version in an attempt to duplicate what comes naturally to Chaka. Now don't get me wrong, Whitney is very talented and has a nice voice, just not in the same league.

Plus, I usually don't like Whitney's choice of songs, although she does have a few I've liked. In fact, one of my favorites by her, which few people seem to know, is one of her earliest songs, "Hold Me" (duet with Teddy Pendergrass).

mentos, "Meeting in the Ladies Room" and "Men All Pause" are classics! Klymaxx has some great campy lyrics in their songs. Here's a few of my personal favs: "Slap Me! No, somebody SLAP ME...cuz I know I's lookin' good!"; and "wearin' my Gianni Versace blue leather suit :eek:, my nails were done, and my hair was FIERCE!"; and "I'm gettin' attitude all over the room...I just look too good for these people!" I'm not sure who did lead vocals, but I believe Bernadette Cooper provided the spoken lyrics in their songs. She even attempted a solo career at one point, but it never got off the ground. The only song I remember from her solo effort was "I Look Good". One of the lines was something like, "they love me, they hate...but I look good." (Stick with what you know, I guess).

I think we all can agree that the endless sampling has moved beyond just being tired, and has now become even appalling. That's why I don't like P Diddy, Will Smith, Mariah Carey, etc. Have any of the aforementioned put out anything remotely original within the last 5 years?!

G-Ha
May 10th, 2002, 05:39 PM
"Kenneth Cole shoes on..." that's it Beige, I knew I was missing something with the blue leather suit! :)

Beige
May 10th, 2002, 05:47 PM
LMAO@G-Ha! I'm just cracking up at you! *Hug* ;) Wasn't there a part that was something like (or maybe it's on Meeting...Ladies Room) -- "I don't want to be reduced to the level of a 'BW', a Basic Woman"?

"I love ya, I love ya all, but I go to go" ;)

:kiss:

P.S. Joyce "Fenderella" Irby's one hit was"Mr. DJ".

G-Ha
May 10th, 2002, 06:01 PM
YES! How could I forget that Basic Woman line?! That's one of the best!

mentos
May 10th, 2002, 08:43 PM
Beige:
Don’t know “Alf” but I’ll look into it
My bad on The Jets! Thanks for “schooling” me. I’d forgotten/confused their history.
“YouGot It All” – didn’t remember that one. Thanks for mentioning it. You continue to amaze!
I'm Polynesian (have some Tongan in me, too) so we were all happy to see some of our own have their "15 minutes".
I hear ya! Big up to the Polynesian Massive (that’s a little Jamaican lingua).
Hey, they had a #1 hit which isn't bad for a bunch of Mormon kids. (The first sinne the Osmonds, lol)
Indeed [B]LOL[B/], beige.

("I got my Kenneth Cole shoes on...)
They were dropping designer names way before some of our present day label-conscience hip hop artists. LOL!

I tell you if Lil Bow Wow comes out with "Benita Applebum", there will be hell to pay!!
Better remove that “Lil” from his name, beige. I’ve heard that it’s just Bow Wow now. Count me in for on the remake issue.
And speaking of “Benita Applebum “, I heard My Buddy an old school A Tribe Called Quest/De La Soul/Jungle Bros/Monie Love song on the radio this afternoon. It made my hour.


Yazoo kinda remionds me of ABC who were in the same era, and had the same sort of sound. Those two plus Style Council, and Swing Out Sister were my favourite 80s bands.

The only ABC song that I remember is “When Smokey Sings”, which paid homage to Smokey Robinson.
I remember “Swing Out Sister”. That song “Break Out” was a big hit in the States. “Am I The Same Girl?” (I think this is the title, but it may just be part of the chorus) was another of their songs that I liked.

Speaking of remakes and Five Star, teen star Mandy Moore remade Five Star's "Let Me Be The One".
I probably wouldn’t recognize it after all the digitizing and synthesizing that accompanies many of these pop ditties.

:wavey:

BCP
May 11th, 2002, 06:32 PM
Mentos:wavey: I remeber My Buddy. It's a classic record. Remeber You your own dang which was a classic Tribee called Quest, De la soul and Jungle brothers record. It's one of my all time faves.

As for the depeche mode etc thing, my BF is really into all of that. The person you are thinking of is Vincent Clarke (I think that's his surname). He was never the lead vocalist in any of the bands he was in, but he was the main songwriter for Depeche Mode, Yazoo, and Erasure. Andy Bell was the lead singer of Erasure.

Its freaky you should mention that. I just fifnished watching a special a friend of mine taped in the UK counting down the 10 most influential pop-electro bands of the 80s. It was hosted by Marc Almond of Soft Cell. The top 10 were

1. Pet Shop Boys
2. Depeche Mode
3. Erasure/Vincent Clarke
4. Human League
5. OMD
6.Tears for fears
7.Gary Numan
8. New Order
9. Thompson Twins
10. Bronski Beat/Jimmy Somerville

It was a great trip down memory lane........:)

BCP
May 11th, 2002, 06:34 PM
Bloody computer is soooo slow:(

BTW thanks for the avatar Beige. That is a classic album. If I'm not mistaken, that album featured the Chaka Khan track Watch what you're saying, which was the first single off that album. I also really like the Shara Nelson track off that album.:)

Beige
May 13th, 2002, 01:52 PM
Yup, bcp, Vince Clarke was Alison's partner in Yaz(oo) AND you got it re: the Guru album (even myy fave Me'shell Ndegeocello was on it with CK and Shara).

"Hangin out in parks,
hangin out with Mase,
buddy buddy buddy
all in my face".

Oh yeah, mentos and bcp! Great memories! :D

BCP, the YK top 10 you listed...can we say "gay bar"?! Lol Those groups and their songs remind me of my 'coming out' days. :o

P.S. Where were you in '92? Check out 10 years ago from the US charts:

1. Jump - Kris Kross

2. Rump Shaker - Wreckx-N-Effect

3. Move This - Technotronic

4. I'm Too Sexy - Right Said Fred

5. All 4 Love - Color Me Badd

6. Live And Learn - Joe Public

7. Tennessee - Arrested Development

8. I'd Die Without You - PM Dawn

9. Walking On Broken Glass - Annie Lennox

10. How Do You Talk To An Angel - The Heights

11. Everything About You - Ugly Kid Joe

12. Honey Love - R. Kelly And Public Announcement

proteus
May 13th, 2002, 03:11 PM
Hey Beige!
I was admiring your Maze avatar and now you've gone and changed it! I like that album (is it their live one?), but like EWF's Gratitude album even more. The live version of "Reasons" is stunning! Also Sun Goddess on there.
Have you heard of Locksmith? They are the band on two Grover Washington Jnr albums "Live at the Bijou" and "Reed Seed". Listen to "Sausalito" on the former and "Loran's Dance" on the latter; the funk in jazz-funk!

BCP
May 13th, 2002, 11:55 PM
Hey Beige,

Thanks for listing that!

Comments:

Colour me Badd- EEEWWWWWW!

Kriss Kross:mad:

I liked Arrested Development and PM Dawn. I think Speech from Arrested Development tried to get a solo career happening, but it never really got off the ground.

My friends love Annie Lennox, but I could never really get into her stuff. I was not a great Eurythmics fan either.

LOL about the gay top 10! I like just about everyone in that top 10 (except for Erasure)......

moon
May 14th, 2002, 04:28 AM
All I wanna do is a zoomzoomzoom and the boomboom!! JUST SHAKE YOUR ROMP!

I used to love that song, and I still have it on tape. I also liked Jump.

I was in college during that time and Jump was a BIG party song.

I hated Move this, I'm too Sexy, and Colour Me Badd, and I positively loathed PM Dawn. Although I did like one song they made, I think it's Baby you Send Me.

I also thought Live and Learn and Honey Love, were pretty crappy.

I liked How do You talk to an Angel, although it was pretty sappy.

Tennessee was the best thing Arrested Development ever did.

Beige
May 14th, 2002, 01:38 PM
http://gs.cdnow.com/graphics/COVERART/AMG/L/03/69/00210369.jpg

Welcome, Proteus! Above is the avatar you were referring to. Yup, it's Maze's "Live from New Orleans". And, Pro, you have great taste in EWF albums: "Gratitude" is the best!! The live version of "Reasons", "Devotion" and "Sun Goddess" are incredible. It's sad that R&B BANDS are extinct in this day and age. :sad: I listened to "Sausalito" online and it was cool and reminded me of Maze without vocals as well as instrumental works by George Benson and George Duke. I love that sound, too. Thanks for sharing! :) (Sorry "Reed Seed" was not available; maybe out of print)

BCP, my boyfriend loves Erasure but I never liked them. I could tolerate their songs but it was never my kettle of fish, hehe.

Moon, do you remember the "Rump Shaker" video? :rolleyes: So scuzzy! lol Also, I think the PM Dawn song you're referring to is
"Set Adrift In Memory Bliss" which sampled "True" by Spandau Ballet (Tony Hadley from that group was in PM Dawn's video).

I liked "Tennessee" but preferred "People Everyday". Did you guys like former Arrested Development member Dionne Ferris' solo album? I thought it was cool and expected more success from her a la Lenny Kravitz.

Moon, "Honey Love" wasn't your brand of early 90's R&B...maybe "Breaking my Heart (Pretty Brown Eyes) by Mint Condition was more your cup of tea? :)

proteus
May 14th, 2002, 03:22 PM
Hi Beige! Thanks for the warm welcome :). Glad you liked Sausalito, and yes, you're right, Reed Seed is unfortunately out of print. It's on the Motown label, and they're having problems reissueing albums. If you liked that, and it reminded you of George Benson, perhaps I should tell you about the original version of "The World is a Ghetto" that he later covered. It was by "War", and it's stunning (original 12 inch single version). War themselves later redid it, but not as potently as the original.

You're quite right about mentioning "Devotion" in the same breathe as the other two tracks: Philip Bailey and EWF at their best! And the lyrics are so meaningful, even by EWF standards.

Beige
May 15th, 2002, 01:15 PM
Originally posted by proteus
Hi Beige! Thanks for the warm welcome :). Glad you liked Sausalito, and yes, you're right, Reed Seed is unfortunately out of print. It's on the Motown label, and they're having problems reissueing albums. If you liked that, and it reminded you of George Benson, perhaps I should tell you about the original version of "The World is a Ghetto" that he later covered. It was by "War", and it's stunning (original 12 inch single version). War themselves later redid it, but not as potently as the original.

You're quite right about mentioning "Devotion" in the same breathe as the other two tracks: Philip Bailey and EWF at their best! And the lyrics are so meaningful, even by EWF standards.

Pro, I'm old enough to have heard War's version when it was actually released. :) Great (and rich) song! I take it that Grover Washington's rendition was an instrumental? Speaking of War, other faves include "Me and Baby Brother", "Slippin Into Darkness", "Spill The Wine" and the classic "Low Rider" which reminds me of my hometown of L.A.

P.S. Philip Bailey's best EWF vocal, in my humble opinion, is "Keep Your Head To The Sky".

moon
May 15th, 2002, 03:25 PM
Beige, I agree completely about Philip Bailey and Keep Your Head... Definitely that is my favorite song with Phil on the lead vocals, plus it has a positive message. I still listen to it sometimes, when I'm having a bad day. (am I the only one that does this?:o ) Reasons is a close 2nd IMO.

The Rumpshaker was completely and totally scuzzy Beige. I've only seen it once or twice, and that is a very appropiate word to describe it.

I didn't like Pretty Brown Eyes, or the group Mint Condition. Something about the way the song started off (very dramatic), made me dislike it. And the way the group looked, turned me off them completely. Something about black men with perms in their hair, I don't know...but it's just extremely yucky to me. Years later I heard the song and realized it wasn't so bad, but when it was out, I wasn't into it at all.

Beige
May 15th, 2002, 05:44 PM
Moon, do you ever feel you were born in the wrong decade?! :) Really nice to see that in the R&B world you have an affinity for EWF and Chaka Khan as opposed to the Force MD's and Pebbles. ;) "Keep Your Head To The Sky" is an anthem between my fave brother and myself (our older sibs are more into rock). Vince, my bro, used to always (and still does on occasion) sign off his letters with "Keep Your Head To The Sky". :) Moon, I love the end especially. I would get so mad when radio stations cut off those final high notes from Phillip Bailey. Beautiful! :D Hey speaking of Phillip Bailey, does anyone recall his 80's duet with Phil Collins? I liked it. ("Reasons" and "Devotion" are neck and neck for second EWF fave for me)

Originally posted by moon:
Something about black men with perms in their hair, I don't know...but it's just extremely yucky to me.

LOL! Does that mean you didn't like...

Jermaine "We Don't Have To Take Our Clothes Off" Stewart?!
http://jermainestewart.fanspace.com/Page_1/IMAG0009.JPG

To be fair to Jermaine, Prince also straightened his hair:

http://gs.cdnow.com/graphics/COVERART/local/L/65/93/00026593.jpg

;)

BCP
May 15th, 2002, 11:32 PM
Hey Beige:wavey: Top avatar! Hey Moon:wavey:

I am just barely old enough to remember Phil Bailey, and I think I sort of rememnber the duet you are talking about. I can't stand Phiol Collins though, or stuff like Mike and the Mechanics....EWWW

I sort of sometimes get Phil Bailey mixed up with Billy Ocean, though I can distinctly remember Billy Ocean. I wonder what he's doing today.

What does everyone think of Lionel Ritchies recent comeback? Sometimes you just gotta let sleeping dogs lie..........

proteus
May 16th, 2002, 02:08 PM
Originally posted by Beige


Pro, I'm old enough to have heard War's version when it was actually released. :) Great (and rich) song! I take it that Grover Washington's rendition was an instrumental? Speaking of War, other faves include "Me and Baby Brother", "Slippin Into Darkness", "Spill The Wine" and the classic "Low Rider" which reminds me of my hometown of L.A.

P.S. Philip Bailey's best EWF vocal, in my humble opinion, is "Keep Your Head To The Sky".
Beige, I was a few year's old when the original "The World is a Ghetto" was released. I think you're so lucky! Many of my favourite albums were released around that time, it would have been great to see and hear the groups perform live! I hear that EWF performances were somethin' else! "Somethin' Else" is the name of one of my favourite jazz albums, it's headed by Cannonball Adderley and Miles Davis. But, not to get side-tracked from WAR, in my previous post I was referring to the George Benson cover of "The World is a Ghetto". The WAR songs you mention are great, I love the live version of "Slippin into Darkness".

You're spot-on about "Keep Your Head To The Sky"! It's inspiring and awesome! I would still choose "Reasons (live)" above it, because Philip Bailey is aided and abetted by Don Myrick on the Alto Saxophone! The Myrick solo and then the "duet" with Bailey are simply stunning! [I've read Bailey speaking about "singing a bebop lick" over the top of EWF's awesome rhythm section. Both him and the White's were strongly influenced by jazz.] But I have great respect for anyone who'll choose "Keep Your Head to The Sky" as their favourite! No-one should be allowed to cut off those high notes at the end!

I like Chaka Khan too! Live version of "Sweet Thing"! In fact, many of the songs/albums I like are live recordings. But I guess you know them all. I'll mention The Commodores' "Live!" album since BCP :wavey: mentioned Lionel Ritchie. I like "Zoom" on there. Hello to Moon, too.

mentos
May 16th, 2002, 09:19 PM
Greetings all!:wavey:
As for the depeche mode etc thing, my BF is really into all of that. The person you are thinking of is Vincent Clarke (I think that's his surname). He was never the lead vocalist in any of the bands he was in, but he was the main songwriter for Depeche Mode, Yazoo, and Erasure. Andy Bell was the lead singer of Erasure.

ball change pls
Thanks for clearing this Six Degrees of Yaz/oo situation up for us.


What does everyone think of Lionel Ritchies recent comeback? Sometimes you just gotta let sleeping dogs lie..........
beige
I couldn’t have said it any better myself. Fade to black Lionel---It’s so over!

I think I’ll make myself more familiar with the music of EWF. They seem to have a rich collection of songs, but I’m stuck knowing just their “hits”…that’s why my favorite song by them is “That’s Way of the World”

Hey speaking of Phillip Bailey, does anyone recall his 80's duet with Phil Collins?

beige, I remember the song: "Easy Lover". It was okay for the time.

Another band kind of in the same funk/soul/ r&b genre as EWF was Cameo.
Remember them?
Their songs include “Candy”, Single Life (my favorite), “She’s Strange” and “Word Up” (the hit which really brought them into the main stream.
Initially, I dug Cameo because of the videos, some of which featured characters (Jesse, Angie and Eugene were their names) from the soap opera “All My Children”.
:wavey:

Beige
May 17th, 2002, 02:33 PM
Hey Pro. :) I checked and saw that "...Ghetto" is on "In Flight". OMG! My cousin used to play it all the time but I never noticed GB's version. :o Too much "Everything Must Change", I guess, hehe. ;)

Pro, Cannonball Adderley had a short-lived syndicated music show that used to air at 3am on Saturday nights in L.A.in the mid-70's. Great show! Nancy Wilson, Art Blakey, Miles Davis all appeared on it. I love that whole jazz/fusion/"Quiet Storm" scene (Jeff Lorber, Diane Shuur, Dianne Reeves, George Duke, Najee, etc) but unfortunately I don't listen to it at all today. :o

"Zoom" is probably my favorite track by The Commodores. "Sweet Love" is second. I know "Brickhouse" is a crossover fave but it does nothing for me now.

Hey again Mentos! ;) "That's The Way of the World" is another EWF gem! :D "Easy Lover"! That's it, thanks. Not great but Phil & Phillip sounded good together.

I was backpacking across Europe during the popularity of "Word Up" and was amazed to see the reception (they ate up and people caught on to the slang, too). It's a cool song but NOT, in my opinion, Cameo's best. "She's Strange" and "Shake Your Pants" are my faves. Mentos, that's cool trivia about the "AMC" gang. I didn't know that but perhaps Moon recalls Darnell Williams, Debbi Morgan, etc in the Cameo video. :)

HAVE A GREAT WEEKEND EVERYBODY!!! :wavey:

BCP
May 23rd, 2002, 11:46 PM
I just saw the video for Wish I didn't Miss you anymore for Angie. She looks terrific as ever, but in Aust, they have used the most hideous house mix as the single mis. I think it's the Pound Boys mix, which is too awful for owrds. Damn those Pound Boys!:(

Blaze has done a lovely bootleg of Wish I didn't...... which probably won't see the light of day.

Also, i saw the new Kelis album in the shops the other day, and thought poor old Kelis, that album has really bombed....even Pink is outdoing her!:rolleyes: :eek:

Beige, I can't get into Ashanti or Tweet. i hate both singles.....

Beige
May 24th, 2002, 01:39 PM
BCP, I haven't seen the video but recently Angie performed on 2 very popular American talk shows and she looked and sounded great. (I love her fashion sense because she proves that even "full-figured" women can be sexy contrary to what you see in the magazines) Angie addressed the house mixes and while she's not really crazy about them, she sees it as a way to reach more people. BCP, even Jill Scott's hits have had hard house versions! :mad:

Yeah, really sad about Kelis!!! :( To hear cuts from her latest I have to listen to my alternative radio show on Saturdays. Hip hop and R&B radio have ignored her new cd eventhough N.E.R.D., Kelis's producer, is one of the hottest producers (they've worked with Britney, N'sync, etc). Ridiculous and shame on black radio for their ignorance. Me'shell Nedgeocello has a new album and she said she is deliberately selling out and that black radio will now play her song "Pocketbook" because she is joined by Tweet and some rappers on the remix of the song. Me'shell is being cynical about it and I like that. She's not going to put on airs; she's upfront that she wants to generate a hit or two on this latest album. Hehe :)

Yeah, BCP, Ashanti and Tweet are quite vapid. Let 'em make their money but we'll be wondering "where are they now" in the next two years. :rolleyes:

Jessica02
May 26th, 2002, 07:24 PM
:wavey: Hello!!

*wonders why its been so long since last visiting this thread*

I love Angie Stone her album is great, and I love 'I wish I didnt miss u anymore'.

I love Tweet, but I cant stand Ashanti - Shes about as original as backstreet boys...or even worse Destiny's Child..!
No its just theres nothing u havent heard before with her, rapping with Fat Joe. Sounds No differnet to J-Lo and Ja Rule to me. :confused:

I like Res though shes very cool. :D

Does anyone know what happened to Debolah Morgan? She had a top voice.
And whats Kelly Price been doing recently?

Where's Mark - I havent seen him around this place in a while? :sad:

BCP
May 26th, 2002, 11:21 PM
Hey Jess:wavey: . I also wonder where Mark is. I miss him too:sad:

Guys, a friend of mine taped this series in the UK called, I love 1981, 82, 83....you get the point. Anyway, they were talking about Imagination, and they interviewed Jocelyn Brown and Mica Paris, who adored Imagination. Probably only Beige is old enough to remember Imagination, but Mica Paris looked amazing. I hope she has one more album left in her.......

Richie77
May 28th, 2002, 11:59 PM
Hi ball change,

This is a great thread, and I'm glad I'm not too late to post on it.
I am a big Acid Jazz fan...they call it "Smooth Jazz" here in the U.S.
Most of what I listen too sounds kind of like, soft R&B meets elevator music with a little bit of a dance-house beat kicked in. My favorite artists are Keiko Matsui, Ronny Jordan, Rick Braun and Soul Ballet, among others.

I hope you keep this thread going a while! :wavey:

Cybelle Darkholme
May 29th, 2002, 12:09 AM
Go check out Verve Remixed online Amazon has snippets or just go to Kazalite and download baby.

BCP
May 29th, 2002, 02:31 AM
Hi SonicCadd and Cybelle:wavey: Welcome to the thread. Itr's just a chat with anyone about the music that they like.

SonicCadd, I love Ronny Jordan. He put out a couple of fantastic albums in the mid 90s. I've not heard of the other artists you've mentioned though. Can you tell me a little more about them?

From what you decribe, I think you would really like the James Taylor Quartet or Corduroy. They are two great acid jazz bands from the UK, and their music is mostly loungey with like a 60's & 70's feel. Also try out Brand New Heavies, Incognito, D'Influence, and Drizabone.

Cybelle, firstly, I love all your avatars- RuPaul is too funny (I hope that's rupaul in them). Secondly, do you mean the Verve from the UK who had that hit Bitter Sweet Symphony?

Double Fault
May 29th, 2002, 09:57 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
Probably only Beige is old enough to remember Imagination

Not so, BCP. :) I remember Imagination very well. Infact I was listening to "Bodytalk" just yesterday on tape. I loved their baseline. Some of the ouitfits they wore were banned from Top of the Pops. :) BCP, you also mentioned "Zoom" by the Commodores. Great track. Do you remember a version by Fat Larry's Band? I think it's great. Like this thread! :) Love R&B, right back to the 60's. I'm really old too.

rightous
May 29th, 2002, 11:06 PM
Never fear Mark is here, Thanks for the mention, never knew you loved me all so much, (I'm getting a big head now, thats my head on my shoulders Aden;) ) I had my finlas for the last 2 weeks and the stres nearly killed e but alas not, unfortunetaely for y'all.

Jess girl I'm so with you on the whole Ashanti thing, veey boring and I really like Tweet, she has an edge, like Res who is so cool, I hope she's gets some success. Jess what do ya think of Ms Dynamite???

BCP
May 30th, 2002, 12:54 AM
Hey Double Fault:wavey: I know what you mean regarding Imagination's outfits. They showed them on the special.....and I thought boney M was camp!

Imagination made some incredible music, and body talk was probably their biggest hit. Double Fault, you are so right about those lush basslines....they have been sampled to death recently. So many incredible artists have been influenced by Imagination.

Do you remember Shalamar?

BTW DF, do you like Dionne warwick. I think when she sang Burt Bacarach tracks, it was absolutely magic.....


Hey Rightous, welcome back:wavey: :kiss: ;) ! I hope you did well in your exams, and got your pm re: Sydney. How exciting!
Yes, yes, i did miss you. Now if you would only put that big head into that soccer uniform you were talking about, and bring it on over here...,.........:p ;)

BTW, i saw Kylie's new video....whoever did the styling should be shot..........

Richie77
May 30th, 2002, 05:05 AM
Originally posted by ball change pls
Hi SonicCadd and Cybelle:wavey: Welcome to the thread. Itr's just a chat with anyone about the music that they like.

SonicCadd, I love Ronny Jordan. He put out a couple of fantastic albums in the mid 90s. I've not heard of the other artists you've mentioned though. Can you tell me a little more about them?

From what you decribe, I think you would really like the James Taylor Quartet or Corduroy. They are two great acid jazz bands from the UK, and their music is mostly loungey with like a 60's & 70's feel. Also try out Brand New Heavies, Incognito, D'Influence, and Drizabone.

Cybelle, firstly, I love all your avatars- RuPaul is too funny (I hope that's rupaul in them). Secondly, do you mean the Verve from the UK who had that hit Bitter Sweet Symphony?

Keiko Matsui is a Japanese piano player. Her music contains a lot of dance influence, with a bit of soft rock. I became a fan after hearing her song "Safari," which is probably the best introdcution to her style of music. That's on her album "Sapphire." Also try "Under Northern Lights."

Rick Braun is an American horn player (I think trumpet), who's had some good albums Try his "Best of" CD and "Body and Soul."

Soul Ballet is one of the first acid jazz groups I started listening to. (I started listening back in the fall of 1998, when a new radio station here in Indianapolis switched over to the smooth jazz format.) The group (actually one man) plays does mostly slow- to mid-tempo songs, with very gritty beats. He has three albums out:
"Soul Ballet"
"Trip the Night Fantastic"
"Vibe Cinema"
All three are great...very slow, and quite sexy, too! ;)

I will definitely check out your suggestions...I've heard of the Brand New Heavies, they had a hit in the U.S. a few years ago, "Dream on Dreamer."

Richie77
May 30th, 2002, 05:11 AM
Originally posted by rightous

Jess girl I'm so with you on the whole Ashanti thing, veey boring and I really like Tweet, she has an edge, like Res who is so cool, I hope she's gets some success. Jess what do ya think of Ms Dynamite???

I like Res, too. Her song "They-Say Vision" is starting to get some play here, albeit in an unlikely place. There's a radio station in Crawfordsville, Indiana (about 45 miles west-northwest of Indianapolis) that plays a nice mix of Top 40 type songs and newer music, including Res, Ashanti, Tweet, etc.

I heard the Tweet song, and it didn't really impress me that much. Wasn't that subject already covered a few years ago by the Divinlys? "I don't want anybody else...when I think about you, I touch myself!" THAT was a good song. ;)

Has anyone here heard the song "Addicted" by Truth Hurts? I have quite a few times...it's one of the most original songs I've heard in a while.

Richie77
May 30th, 2002, 05:16 AM
Originally posted by ball change pls
Do you remember Shalamar?

BTW DF, do you like Dionne warwick. I think when she sang Burt Bacarach tracks, it was absolutely magic.....



I heard a Shalamar song the other day! I think it was "A Night To Remember," not sure.

While we're in that area, does anyone like Patrice Rushen? She was the woman who sang "Forget Me Nots" in the early 80's.

Meanwhile, I also like Dionne Warwick songs from all eras. I like the early songs, such as "Do You Know The Way to San Jose," "Walk on By," et al. She did a really nice song in the 80's called "Love Power," which got into the Top 15.

BCP
May 30th, 2002, 05:30 AM
SonicCadd77, thaty Shalamar song would be " A night to remember", which is a classic record. I wish people still produced records like this. Thanks for the fill in about the other artists. It sounds like you like instrumentalists...as long as it isn't Kenny G!

Hmmm are you Australian, or were the Divinyls big in the states?

Richie77
May 30th, 2002, 05:55 AM
Originally posted by ball change pls
SonicCadd77, thaty Shalamar song would be " A night to remember", which is a classic record. I wish people still produced records like this. Thanks for the fill in about the other artists. It sounds like you like instrumentalists...as long as it isn't Kenny G!

Hmmm are you Australian, or were the Divinyls big in the states?

I have varied music tastes. I mostly like either smooth/acid jazz (instrumentalists), or alternative rock. I LOVE old R&B songs from the 70's and 80's. I also like many soft rock songs from the 80's...I'm a big Hall and Oates fan. My favorite all-time singer is Stevie Nicks, both solo and with Fleetwood Mac.

As for nationality, I'm American...100 percent Hoosier (Indiana Native) born and raised. I only know the one Divinyls song, "I Touch Myself." It was a big hit in the states during summer 1991, and their only big U.S. hit. I take it they were/are more popular in Australia.

BCP
May 30th, 2002, 06:19 AM
Divinyls were kicking around Australia when INXS were starting out. They were reasonably big here, but not as big as INXS or Midnight Oil. I've never really been into rock. I'm not sure what's happened to the Divinyls, but I haven't heard about for at least 6 or 7 years.......

King Aaron
May 30th, 2002, 11:26 AM
I like Ashanti.......

Beige
May 30th, 2002, 01:36 PM
Welcome back, Vanilla Bro! http://salacious.de/Smiliez/sonstiges/Musik/music049.gif

DF and BCP, "Just An Illusion can still be heard today on black radio. It was a "crossover" hit and black radio has kept the song alive. (I don't hear it on Top 40 retro hours or dance stations) Anyway, I still love it to this day. :)

My Shalamar faves are "Night To Remember", "Dead Giveaway", "Make That Move" and "Second Time Around".

Welcome aboard, Sonic! :) I love Patrice Rushen. Rightous, Jess. Kisha and others abroad will recognize "Forget Me Nots" as the sample for Will Smith's song "Men In Black". Other Patrice songs I like are "Haven't You Heard" and "Feels So Good".

BCP, the Divinyls actually had their first taste of Stateside success in the mid-80's with "Pleasure and Pain". This was at the height of the New Wave scene and the Divinyls were much harder sounding back then as opposed to the fluffy (read: accessible) "I Touch Myself". I was surprised when I learned they sang "I Touch Myself".

P.S. Jessica, I'm so glad you like "Wish I Didn't Miss You"! That song always makes me happy! :D

Double Fault
May 30th, 2002, 06:53 PM
Hello, All. :)

BCP, Shalamar were one of my favourite groups from the early 80s. "There It Is" and "Take That To The Bank" as well as those already mentioned Oh, and "Friends" was also very good. :) Shame they split, they still had a lot to give I think. "Disappearing Act" was another that hit the point only Shalamar could.

Beige, glad you mentioned Patrice Rushen's great classic "Haven't You Heard" It was on the flip side of the 7" single "Forget Me Nots" I played the "B" side more I think. Such a great track! :)

Dionne Warwick is a legend. No doubt. My fav of hers is "Then Came You" "You'll Never Get To Heaven" and of course "Heartbreaker" I never tire of listening to her dulcet tones.:)

BCP
May 30th, 2002, 11:22 PM
Hey Beige:wavey: where have you been? Did you go away for the long weekend?

DF, how do you feel about old Stevie Wonder? Are you also into Qunicy Jones produced stuff?

Beige, did you ever like Alexander O'Neil. My bf just puylled out his album that was set to a party with the track Criticize on it. Jam & Lewis were fantastic when they were on song with their prodcutions........

Richie77
May 30th, 2002, 11:33 PM
BCP, DoubleFalt, Beige:
If you're ever kicking around the compilation section of a music store, look for "Billboard Top Dance Hits 1982." It has some great songs on there:
1. "Let It Whip" - Dazz Band
2. "Glad to Know You" - Chas Jankel
3. "Love Come Down" - Evelyn "Champagne" King
4. "Megatron Man" - Patrick Cowley
5. "Muphy's Law" - Cheri
6. "You're the One For Me" - D Train
7. "Beat The Street" - Sharon Redd
8. "Right On Target" - Paul Parker
9. "Forget Me Nots" - Patrice Rushen
10. "So Fine" - Howard Johnson

I bought this four years ago for "Murphy's Law," and discovered that every one of these songs is a classic!

Richie77
May 30th, 2002, 11:36 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Beige


BCP, the Divinyls actually had their first taste of Stateside success in the mid-80's with "Pleasure and Pain". This was at the height of the New Wave scene and the Divinyls were much harder sounding back then as opposed to the fluffy (read: accessible) "I Touch Myself". I was surprised when I learned they sang "I Touch Myself".

LOL...I remember when that song came out, and everyone here was so SHOCKED that there would be a song with that title! This was even after Madonna's "Justify My Love" came out.

It's still funny, because Tweet's "Oops" is also getting a little controversy, but not a whole lot.

Beige
May 31st, 2002, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by SonicCad77
BCP, DoubleFalt, Beige:
If you're ever kicking around the compilation section of a music store, look for "Billboard Top Dance Hits 1982." It has some great songs on there:
1. "Let It Whip" - Dazz Band
2. "Glad to Know You" - Chas Jankel
3. "Love Come Down" - Evelyn "Champagne" King
4. "Megatron Man" - Patrick Cowley
5. "Muphy's Law" - Cheri
6. "You're the One For Me" - D Train
7. "Beat The Street" - Sharon Redd
8. "Right On Target" - Paul Parker
9. "Forget Me Nots" - Patrice Rushen
10. "So Fine" - Howard Johnson

I bought this four years ago for "Murphy's Law," and discovered that every one of these songs is a classic!

Sonic, I just heard "Murphy's Law" on the radio last weekend. :) I love these compilations from Billboard. This is the one I own:

R&B Hits 1986

Rumors - Timex Social Club
There'll Be Sad Songs (To Make You Cry) - Billy Ocean
Tasty Love - Freddie Jackson
Shake You Down - Gregory Abbott
Who's Johnny ("Short Circut" Theme) - El DeBarge
Love You Down - Ready For The World
Do Me Baby - Meli'sa Morgan
Your Smile - Rene & Angela
I Can't Wait - Nu Shooz
The Rain - Oran "Juice" Jones

Bey BCP! :wavey: Nope, I was in town but had a good time nonetheless.

I liked Alexander O'Neal. He did both ballads and uptempo really well. I liked "Criticize" and "Fake", both hits when I was living in Europe in the late 80's.

HAVE A GOOD WEEKEND EVERYBODY!

rightous
May 31st, 2002, 03:51 PM
Gee I'm feeling really young again;) With all these 1982 stuff;) I really like Angie's new one as well, the video is pretty funky to match, I love the beat.

BCP bro' it's hard to fit the whole packet into a tight pair of shorts;)

Beige
May 31st, 2002, 03:55 PM
Rightous and co, if you like Angie's "Wish I Didn't Miss You", check out online the original sample "Backstabbers" by the Ojays; Angie was real faithful to it and has performed "WIDMY" with the Ojays
recently on late night TV here in the States.

Oh Marky. *Sigh* You're not a fag but you play one on the board. :p

rightous
May 31st, 2002, 04:30 PM
Bro' I'm just helping to relieve a little tension;)

Beige I think its interesting that although Res is trying for a more rock approach and imager, its R'n'B stations picking up her sound, and also my fave off last summer is getting airplay over here, finally, I Do by Toya:)

Beige
May 31st, 2002, 04:33 PM
Peace. bro. ;)

Toya is performing this weekend at a local musicfest. She's cool and hot-lookin', too.

Marky and Res fans, she is getting no R&B airplay at all. I hear her on rock radio occasionally. The radio stations are having problem "labelling" her which is the problem with American pop music. :(

rightous
May 31st, 2002, 04:36 PM
In the Uk its only R'n'B stations playing her music, in fact she's getting big airplay on MTV Base, she's the 7th most requested song at the moment.

Richie77
May 31st, 2002, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Beige


Sonic, I just heard "Murphy's Law" on the radio last weekend. :) I love these compilations from Billboard.

So do I, Beige. I've got quite a few of them. They have so many of the songs that are "forgotten."

I actually have been reading Billboard for decades...well, actually since 1988. :) I was 10, and had a big crush on Whitney Houston at the time. I saw something in USA Today that said she had just earned her sixth consecutive No. 1 song. The source of the information? Billboard magazine. I remember asking my mom if we could get a Billboard, and she said "We'll see."

I got the January 16 issue, and was immediately floored to look at the "Hot 100" chart. Whitney wasn't No. 1..."So Emotional" had dropped to No. 2. The No. 1 song was George Harrison's "I've Got My Mind Set on You."

We weren't able to get them every week for a while...and in some instances, I went a few months without looking at one. Once I got to college, in the fall of 1995, I started reading them on a regular basis, and have done so ever since.

Richie77
May 31st, 2002, 11:08 PM
Originally posted by Beige
Peace. bro. ;)

Toya is performing this weekend at a local musicfest. She's cool and hot-lookin', too.

Marky and Res fans, she is getting no R&B airplay at all. I hear her on rock radio occasionally. The radio stations are having problem "labelling" her which is the problem with American pop music. :(


Isn't it ridiculous how everything has to be "labelled?" :rolleyes:

Res' song is one of the better ones I've heard in a while. She actually reminds me a little of Stevie Nicks in the way she sings.
It's ironic, because the whole point of her song (They-Say Vision) is all about how others try to make you see things their way.

It's a total shame that pop music here in the U.S. has to fall under strict formats. There aren't very many "We'll play everything" stations. The Crawfordsville station I mentioned is the only one.

Richie77
May 31st, 2002, 11:11 PM
Here's a website for everyone to go to:

http://www.reelradio.com/ (http://www.reelradio.com)

It contains many, many old radio "Airchecks" from U.S. radio stations from the 60's, 70's and 80's. The focus isn't as much on the music as it is the DJ's, but you do get a real feel for what the sound of the station was like.

You have to have a RealPlayer to listen to the airchecks. A RealPlayer 8 (the old ones) work the best.

BCP
Jun 3rd, 2002, 07:10 AM
Hi guys:wavey: Cybelle, I finally understand about what you meant about the Verve stuff. I saw the CD today of lovely remixes of old recordings on Verve Records. There are remixes by MJ Cole, Masters at Work, and Rae & Christian. I was really tempted to buy it. Have you heard much of the stuff? What's it like.

Naughty by Nature fans, I also saw the new CD. I bought the first single, which I think is great, but also see that they have done collaberations with Pink (EEEWWWWW YUCK!), and with Queen Latifah. Good to see Queen Latifah behind the mike. I loved Flygirl from the early 90s.

I did however buy the Black eyed peas album, which features a track with my faves, de la soul. I'll let you know how the album is. Also bought a mixed Cd by Doc Martin on Classic.

Sonic, thanks for the link.............:)

Beige
Jun 6th, 2002, 01:23 PM
Thanks for the link, Sonic. Haven't gone there yet but I love the concept! :)

Rightous and Res fans-- just read yesterday that Res will be the opening act this summer for....

Alanis Morisette!

See what I mean about Res' rock angle? Good luck to her!

BCP,Me'shell's single "Pocketbook" is getting more and more R&B radio support; this didn't happen until Me'shell hooked up with Tweet and some rappers. :)

I went to a local radio social thingy @ Planet Hollywood last friday and met Remy Shand. Brits and BCP, has Remy's single "Take A Message" garnered any attention yet? I spoke to Remy briefly and he was amazed (and grateful) by the warm reception of black radio in the States. He told me that Top 40 radio (hits format) has ignored his cd because it's difficult to market. :rolleyes: It cracked me up to stand in line for Remy's autograph with a bunch of black females already to get their pic taken with the Canadian. :)

P.S. G-Ha, besides Remy, the other guest was Keith Sweat. It was so sad because the predominantly female audience at the promotion were there for Remy and they all but ignored Keith. Some latecomers tumbling out of the elevator were told that "Keith Sweat was in the house" and one "sister" was like, "Oh pleez. I aint even try to hear dat. I want me some Remy Shand." lol And Remy is so unassuming which makes Keith look even more pitiful. :o

Richie77
Jun 6th, 2002, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by Beige
P.S. G-Ha, besides Remy, the other guest was Keith Sweat. It was so sad because the predominantly female audience at the promotion were there for Remy and they all but ignored Keith. Some latecomers tumbling out of the elevator were told that "Keith Sweat was in the house" and one "sister" was like, "Oh pleez. I aint even try to hear dat. I want me some Remy Shand." lol And Remy is so unassuming which makes Keith look even more pitiful. :o [/B]

That's too bad. I always liked Keith Sweat. He did one of the most perfect singles ever a few years ago with "Twisted." Not the album version, but the remixed version, where he slowed down the tempo (I think he sampled some of Marvin Gaye's "Sexual Healing") and really gave Kut Klose a nice part on it.

If anyone knows where I can find that remixed version of "Twisted," PLEASE let me know!

BCP
Jun 7th, 2002, 07:48 AM
Hey Beigie:wavey: Good to see you still around. I have never really been into Me'shell. The two single that I have of hers is Never miss the water, which she did with Chaka khan about 6 yerars ago, and a recently pressed bootleg of Paradise, which is apparently on her lastest album. Ben Watt from Everything but the girl did a lovely house mix of it.

I've not heard of remy. Is his sound sort of "corporate R & B?" I sort of put Keith Sweat in that category.

Don't even get me started on Alanis Morrisette.....

BTW Beige, had Donnie surfaced yet in NYC. He's a native New Yorker, whose album is being released through giant Step records, and is produced by Ron trent. The material which I have heard so far is awesome.....and speaking of Giant Step and ron trent, has Jody Watley released a follow up single to Saturday Night Experience?

Indie Richie, why the name change? Can you download that Keith Sweat record from audiogalaxy?

Richie77
Jun 7th, 2002, 10:19 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
Indie Richie, why the name change? Can you download that Keith Sweat record from audiogalaxy? [/B]


Hi Ball Change.

The name change was because there was another "Sonic" person on here, and I wanted to avoid confusion.

My old name came from the groups Sonic Youth and Los Fabulosos Cadillacs (hence the "Cad.") Not sure if Sonic Youth would be your thing (about as far from jazz and R&B as you can get! :D ), but you might try the Cadillacs. They're like a hard rock/jazz/alt-rock combo. They're from Argentina, so all the lyrics are in Spanish. Get "Fabuloso Calavera"...very weird, but some very good songs.

I have never heard of audiogalaxy before. Can you tell me more about it?

BCP
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:26 AM
hey IndyRichy, audiogalaxy is a file exchange site just like napster. It's my b/f's other "lifepartner" He spends ages on thyere downloading stuff. I think you can buy music from the site as well. Here's the link

www.audiogalaxy.com

Beige,

I hear Caron wheeler has done a guest vocal on the new Me'shell album.......

Jordan.
Jun 11th, 2002, 03:18 AM
who's cd should i get out of these? : Res,Tweet,India Arie?

Alot of people give their advice for the above question!Thank you! :wavey:

Richie77
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by ball change pls
hey IndyRichy, audiogalaxy is a file exchange site just like napster. It's my b/f's other "lifepartner" He spends ages on thyere downloading stuff. I think you can buy music from the site as well. Here's the link

www.audiogalaxy.com

Beige,

I hear Caron wheeler has done a guest vocal on the new Me'shell album.......

Thanks, Ball Change!

Jordan.
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:21 AM
pffffft,fine Richie! :(

Richie77
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by Jordan
who's cd should i get out of these? : Res,Tweet,India Arie?

Alot of people give their advice for the above question!Thank you! :wavey:


Definitely get India Arie's CD! Res might be a good bet, although I've only had time to listen to one song on hers.

As for Tweet, I wasn't all that impressed by her first song "Oops (Oh My)." But the rest of the CD might be better, so if you want to try it, go for it.

BCP
Jun 11th, 2002, 05:55 AM
Hey Jordan:wavey: I would also say India arie. I have the album, and it's excellent. I haven't heard the Tweet album, but didn't like Oops at all. I haven't heard Res. res has yet to hit Australia.......:)

Jordan.
Jun 11th, 2002, 06:01 AM
ok,India.arie it is...;)

Thanks guys! :wavey:

Jordan.
Jun 11th, 2002, 08:47 AM
Have yall heard of "Truth Hurts".Shes in the Indian type video,I really like that song,anyone heard her album? :wavey:

Beige
Jun 11th, 2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Jordan
Have yall heard of "Truth Hurts".Shes in the Indian type video,I really like that song,anyone heard her album? :wavey:

"He's so contagious
He turns my pages (Mmm...)
He's got me anxious (Oh...)
He's what I've waited for"

Yeah, Jordan, it's a cool song. :)

Of the 3 ladies you asked about I favor India. Her voice is the most appealing for me of the threesome.

BCP, thanks for the Caron Wheeler info. Me'shell is really adventurous and smart in her collaborations. :)

Also, Remy Shand is a white guy from Winnipeg who records for Motown. Black radio has embraced his single "Take A Message". Remy sounds black a la Mick Hucknall from Simply Red but more 70's soul sounding.

Indy, I'm not a huge Sonic Youth fan but I saw them in concert 10 years ago in Central Park and they rocked!! I love Kim Gordon. :)

Richie77
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:17 PM
Originally posted by Jordan
Have yall heard of "Truth Hurts".Shes in the Indian type video,I really like that song,anyone heard her album? :wavey:

Jordan, I hear that song all the time on the Cool Crawfordsville station, and also on MTV2. It's an amazing song! It's in the Top 10 here in the U.S., which proves there is some hope for our country! ;)

I haven't gotten TH's album yet, will have to do soon!

Richie77
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by Beige
Indy, I'm not a huge Sonic Youth fan but I saw them in concert 10 years ago in Central Park and they rocked!! I love Kim Gordon. :)


The one song of theirs I like is "Society Is A Hole." It's very, very strange...there's some sort of industrial machine in the background, and when I first heard it, I kept thinking :eek: "Where have I heard that noise before?" Still don't know!

BCP
Jun 11th, 2002, 11:38 PM
I know that there are a lot of people out there who like Simply Red, but I was never a huge fan. I think I liked the singles from Stars (I think that was what the album was called) best, but I don't own one of their records.

Another person who i think has a huge voice for a small scottish girl is Lulu (I know, sooooo gay). She made a comeback with two very lovely albums in the early 90s. I think her biggest selling single out of that lot was Indepence, the comeback single. I personally loved "Baby, i'm back for more" which was a collaberation withj Bobby Womack. I hear she has just released a new album which is in the UK top 10. Rightous, is that right?

rightous
Jun 12th, 2002, 06:18 PM
Aden unfortuatley I hate to break the news to the rest of the world but yes she has a Top 5 album in the UK at the moment, its a duets album with the likes of Sam Mumba, Ronan Keating, Westlife etc. the real innovators of are time!!!!!lol Its doing quite well.

Oh an djordan I'm with most of the others and going with the excellent Inida, a woman of class, chamr and wisdom, her lyrics are warm and caring, a smooth album.

Richie77
Jun 12th, 2002, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
I know that there are a lot of people out there who like Simply Red, but I was never a huge fan. I think I liked the singles from Stars (I think that was what the album was called) best, but I don't own one of their records.



BCP, I like a few Simply Red songs, such as "Stars," "Something Got Me Started," and "Fairground." I have their Greatest Hits albums simply for those songs.

aura of daniela
Jun 13th, 2002, 02:50 AM
Hey guys,
I love all types of Funky, Jazzy Bluesy music.

Just a question though.
Anyone know the group, Gomez, UK band.
They seem very blues orientated, but I cant put my finger on what category they'd fall into.........hehehe.

Just asking......

And, you got to love Black Eyed Peas............now there some swinging guys.

Simon V

BCP
Jun 14th, 2002, 12:00 AM
Mark, don't be mean to Lulu. I have quite a soft spot for her.:p ;) She's one of my guilty secrets, along with Cathy Dennis. I'm also ashamed to admit that I really like that track by the runners up of popstar in the Uk that hit no 1 in the UK a couple of weeks ago. They have a really cheeedsy name (something like generation X), but the track was really good.:o

Hi AOD:wavey: Welcome to the thread. I remember Gomez, but don't know much about them. They had a very well received album in 2000 (?)

BTW LOVED the Black eye peas album...........

BCP
Jun 14th, 2002, 01:35 AM
BTW Mark, I just read who Lulu has collaberated with..... I think I'll give the album a miss........

rightous
Jun 14th, 2002, 03:49 PM
lol @ Aden you know I was only looking out for ya bro', I like Cathy Dennis but thats as far as my ginger idols go, sorry!!!lol Liberty X 'Just a Litle' is a wicked song, it got to number 1 here, its really funky to dance to.

AOD Gomez are really good, very indie jazz they won the Mercury award in 1999 I think, I like the song they did about a gun, I don't know alot about them but they just released a new album.

Beige
Jun 14th, 2002, 04:10 PM
Hey guys! :wavey:

What about "Days Gone By" by Dirty Vegas? I read it was out last year in the UK. It's become big here because of a Mitsubishi commercial (brickhouse talked about it a few pages ago).

Lulu! lol :p "To Sir With Love" will always be her signature song. ;)

P.S. I love Simply Red but then again I love white boys who sing like black guys. :D

Richie77
Jun 14th, 2002, 10:42 PM
Beige, I'm thinking about getting the Dirty Vegas CD. Right now, I'm trying to purge some unnecessary CDs, because I literally have hundreds of them, LOL. So if I by a CD, it'll only be a really, really good one. :)

Rightous - nice to see you! I like Cathy Dennis, too. I have her first album.

Alexandre
Jun 15th, 2002, 11:13 AM
Hi Guys:wavey: ! Your topic is like Pandora's box : I'm fond of House, acid jazz etc... Here in France, it's difficult to find and all the titles you give are really precious:cool: . All I can find are imported. Fortunately, there's Internet!
I like "old" house masters like Charles Schilling, David Morales, Frankie Knukkles... and what they call "Lounge Music" with groups like De Phazz, The Timewriters (who are german guys), Knowtoryus, Jaffa, or Jazzanova.
See U :)

BCP
Jun 16th, 2002, 11:36 PM
Hi Alexandre:wavey: Welcome to the thread, and welcome to the board!

I also love Frankie Knuckles, and David Morales. They have produced some of the most incredible house records ever, but its been a while since I've liked anything that either of them have put out (esp Morales). I know Timewriters. I've heard a bit of their stuff, but can't really get into it. It's a little too progressive for me. I also like Jazznova, who recently toured here, and was apparently amazing.

G-Ha, Beige and I were discussing French House earlier in the thread. I just can't get into Daft Punk, Bob Sinclair, or Etienne deCrecy. Do you like these artists?

I love St Germain though (I hope they're frencxh). Anyway, once again, welcome!

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 16th, 2002, 11:40 PM
Omigod!!!!!!!!!! What do you guys talk about in here!!!!!!! I love "To Sir With Love!!!!" I know all the words!! Really I do. And I also love the movie with Sidney Poitier, it's like, my favorite, well, one of them!!!!!! To siiiiiiirrr, with looooooooooovvve!

Sean
Jun 16th, 2002, 11:45 PM
:wavey:

Hey just passing through i thought i might say:

Old skool R&B was cool. The rubbish out there today gets on my nerves sure the girls are sexier but the music is crapper.

Bone,Thugs and Harmony - Were ace!
Im the biggest Jacko fan in the world too :D

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 16th, 2002, 11:49 PM
LOL!!! Bone Thugz were cool!!!!!!!!! Haha! They had that one super hit, which I forget what it is called. All I remember is it was about death and really sad and the music video was hard for me to watch and I cried a few times! LOL!!! They are coming back though, aren't they?!

Sean
Jun 16th, 2002, 11:54 PM
Tha Crossroads - i think your refering to Mrs_Guga.

BCP
Jun 17th, 2002, 12:41 AM
Hey Sean, Hey Mrs guga, Welcome!:wavey:

Sean, I agree with you. A lot of modern R &B is corporate crap. I am also a huge Michael Jackson fan. I also love old Stevie Wonder.

What did you think of the latest MJ album. It's sort of sunk without a trace. There's so much pressure for him to reporduce the success of Off the Wall, Thriller, and Bad everytime he releases anything.

Mrs Guga, I also love the To Sir with Love film. Howw young does Lulu look in it! She has aged beutifully though (i think she has Mr Botox to thank for that!)

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 17th, 2002, 05:24 AM
Thanks Sean! Yeah, I asked my sis and she told me too! Thanks though! Hehe!

Ball Change Pls, I have not seen Lulu since the movie. It is the only time I have seen her besides maybe a pic from a website because I searched all over the internet for an MP3 of that song after seeing the movie! She was a cutie!!! LOL!!!!

Alexandre
Jun 17th, 2002, 09:59 AM
Hi everybody:wavey: and thanks for your welcome;) !
You're right ball, some french group did make bad things, I mean above all of them Bob Sinclar who's always "composing music" for commercial goals. I'm not sure but it seems he's Cerrone's son (?). I like Cerrone because it's the great "disco age", but Bob Sinclar:rolleyes: ...
We've got some good producers like St-Germain, and Etienne de Crécy. Etienne's last album "Tempovision" is full of good things.
We've had a good electronic producer, Laurent Garnier, but as a lot of french "techno specialists" he's become a commercial product too:sad: . But he's a good DJ !
See U;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 17th, 2002, 01:14 PM
yeah, thanks for welcoming moi too! LOL!! I don't know anything though, just the Lulu bit! LOL!

Beige
Jun 17th, 2002, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Mrs_Guga
Omigod!!!!!!!!!! What do you guys talk about in here!!!!!!! I love "To Sir With Love!!!!" I know all the words!! Really I do. And I also love the movie with Sidney Poitier, it's like, my favorite, well, one of them!!!!!! To siiiiiiirrr, with looooooooooovvve!

Mrs_Guga...how old are you again?! If you really are a teenager, wink(!), then I apologize for being short with you in the past, :o, because I'm impressed that "someone your age" would know the film "To Sir With Love"-- and Lulu to boot. :D

BCP, when I think of Lulu and her recent collaborations it reminds me of Shirley "Goldfinger" Bassey working with The Propellerheads (or was it the Pet Shop Boys) a few years ago.

Welcome, Alexandre. Cerrone?! OMG! Talk about a blast from the past. One of the great disco producers (and performers). He was just behind Giorgio Moroder and Nile Rodgers in terms of putting out first-rate and hypnotic disco tunes. Alex, is Cerrone well-known in France or is it really just (old and new school) French disco fans who are familiar with Cerrone? I like Daft Punk's sound but I realize that on their next album they have to come up with something new because the vocoder sound is being used by everyone now, not just Cher. Lol

UK folks-- what about Edwyn Collins? Any fans? He released a new album in the States last month. (It's probably ancient now in Britain)

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 17th, 2002, 01:20 PM
I just turned 18. I like old movies/classics better than modern ones. And I love to sing and To Sir With Love is such a beautiful song to sing. I love it so much!!! I don't like '60s movies as much as '30s, '40s, and '50s, but I love that movie!!!!!!!!

Kisha
Jun 17th, 2002, 07:17 PM
hey:wavey:

hope you all are well:)

ok, i have a couple of things to say!

First, just when is Tatayna Ali gonna release a new album? I was listening to 'Kiss the Sky' and i thought, this really needs a more mature sounding follow up. It was cool at the time, but you know it sounds kinda immature now as the lyrics are really worth cringing over;)

second, i was reading my monthly copy of Touch magazine and there was alot about how poor artists are in Britain. I was aware that they arent all overly rich, but i didnt know some are boarding on the lines of poor. I guess they have to wait for ages for the money to come through and then all their production team needs to be paid. My question is, are the stars not getting paid enough or do you think that they get enough - again this is all based on commercial sucess.

and only something like 10% of each record label ever make it big time:eek: :eek:

third. Ashanti. What is the opinion on her? I really dont know. I admit i bought her album, but i really cant figure out if i like her. She has sold millions and people make her out to be huge and talented - which she is, but i dont think she has as strong a voice as others.

fourth, Ms Dynamite's album is so hot! It's real quality, totally great!

and finally, this to the American posters all up in her (Gee -;) )
i saw Craig Davids video to Fill Me In US style, and i wondered to myself, what was wrong with the british video? I heard Samantha Mumba changed a video and her Baby Come On Over was very American styled aswell! i dont know if you'll know the answer, but i just wondered why the british artists did that, is it because our british videos wont appeal to the US market?:)

thanks guys! i've finished now!;) :)

take care everyone:kiss:

Sean
Jun 17th, 2002, 07:56 PM
:wavey: Guys.

BCP - I think 'Rock my world' was a good song 'Unbreakable' was good too, but the album is not of the standard of 'Off the Wall' which i personally think is his best. Invinsible's not got any classics on it. Whereas all the other albums have thats the main difference.

Kinky Keesh - Ashanti is nice looking but her songs are shit just like Christina Millian, but she is REALLY fine so I'll let her off ;).
Its just typical of mordern R&B though.

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 17th, 2002, 10:15 PM
I am not crazy about Ashanti, but personally, I think she is 10x better than Christina Millian! LOL!

Hi Kisha! A lot of artists change their video I guess, to please a certain crowd. American artists have two different videos for one song at times too--so it's not just Brits. I think Americans and Europeans are stimulated by different things.

Richie77
Jun 17th, 2002, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
Hey Sean, Hey Mrs guga, Welcome!:wavey:

Sean, I agree with you. A lot of modern R &B is corporate crap. I am also a huge Michael Jackson fan. I also love old Stevie Wonder.

What did you think of the latest MJ album. It's sort of sunk without a trace. There's so much pressure for him to reporduce the success of Off the Wall, Thriller, and Bad everytime he releases anything.

Ball Change, I agree on both fronts.

I remember, not too many years ago, when R&B and rap were fun, and had something to say. Now it is all basically cookie-cutter. That's why I really like people like Alicia Keys, Res, and Truth Hurts, because they're trying to be different.
And does every rap video HAVE TO be a big major presentation? Sometimes I wonder how these moderately successful rappers are able to make such big-budget videos. :confused:

As for Michael Jackson, I heard "You Rock My World" and "Butterflies." They weren't bad. I agree, everyone keeps looking for his new album to be the next "Thriller." Although I think MJ kind of sets himself up for it by constantly proclaiming himself to be The King Of All Things Music. He needs to just chill out and worry about his music more.

Richie77
Jun 17th, 2002, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Beige


Mrs_Guga...how old are you again?! If you really are a teenager, wink(!), then I apologize for being short with you in the past, :o, because I'm impressed that "someone your age" would know the film "To Sir With Love"-- and Lulu to boot. :D



LOL!! I'm not a teenager anymore (haven't been for a while now!)but I did grow up knowing all of the "oldies."

The reason: Whenever we went on family trips, my dad would always be listening to the oldies stations. So I heard all of the famous old songs many, many, MANY times! :)

Richie77
Jun 17th, 2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Kisha
hey:wavey:

hope you all are well:)


Kisha! Hey girl! :wavey:

second, i was reading my monthly copy of Touch magazine and there was alot about how poor artists are in Britain. I was aware that they arent all overly rich, but i didnt know some are boarding on the lines of poor. I guess they have to wait for ages for the money to come through and then all their production team needs to be paid. My question is, are the stars not getting paid enough or do you think that they get enough - again this is all based on commercial sucess.
and only something like 10% of each record label ever make it big time:eek: :eek:

It wouldn't surprise me. Last summer, when there was a very real threat of a writer's and actor's strike here in the U.S., I would occasionally hear about how low the average salary is for a member of the Screen Actor's Guild. The big, eight-figure salaries for people like Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman are the exceptions.

third. Ashanti. What is the opinion on her? I really dont know. I admit i bought her album, but i really cant figure out if i like her. She has sold millions and people make her out to be huge and talented - which she is, but i dont think she has as strong a voice as others.

I haven't really heard her that much...don't listen to Top 40 radio all that often. I've only heard a couple of her songs. "Separated," which I kinda like, and "Foolish," which sounds rather pedestrian.

i saw Craig Davids video to Fill Me In US style, and i wondered to myself, what was wrong with the british video? I heard Samantha Mumba changed a video and her Baby Come On Over was very American styled aswell! i dont know if you'll know the answer, but i just wondered why the british artists did that, is it because our british videos wont appeal to the US market?:)

I haven't seen either one. (I live mostly in smooth jazz, soft AC, dance territory!) But it's not too surprising. It's a shame, because it really shows how corporate U.S. music has become. And now international artists have to play that game. It's really stifled creativity, which is why I don't listen to Top 40 that much anymore.

take care everyone:kiss:

You too, dear! :kiss:

BCP
Jun 18th, 2002, 12:18 AM
Hey guys:wavey: Good to see you all in here. Beige, I'm going to borrow your numbering system again:

1. Alexandre, I used to like Laurent Garnier when I was in the techno scene( for about 5 minutes). He has one of the most important techno records in the last 10 years, Crsipy Bacon, which I still have a copy of. I didn't really like his work after the album "30". I sort of compare himto the UK's Luke Slater, who I tyhink is a better producer, and DJ. But I'm sort of out of the loop, as I left the techno scene about 6 years ago (much too full on)

2. I saw St Germain play at Vibes on a Summer's Day last summer, and it was brilliant. I think they have a new album out which is part compositions, and part compilation. "Tourist" was a brilliant album.

3.Alexandre, who are your fave house DJ's/producers/labels?

4.Kisha, I'm hearing good things abou your fave Brandi. Apparently she has been using top notch house producers to mix her singles. I've yet to hear one though. I don't know much about Tatiana Ali, but I sort of put her in the same category as Monica, Ashanti, etc.

5. Beige, I remeber Edwyn Collins. Didn't he have that hit "A girl like you" a few years ago? I liked that record.

6. Sean, Off the wall is one of my 10 fave albums ever. You should also check out Stevie Wonder's "Songs in the key of life", and Quincy Jone's "the Dude". Three classic albums.

7.IndyRichie, there is so much crappy corporate R&B...Ja Rule, Puff Daddy, UUURGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!:( But there is some great stuff being made as well. My fave R&B realeases this year are the D'Influence album, D-Vas, Angie Stone's Mahogoney Soul, and Incognito's Life Stranger than fiction. I also like the India Arie album. I was sort of disappointed in the Maxwell album though......... IndyRichie, do you like Masters at Work? You should check out the new album. It's awesome.

8. Beige, D'influence have done a remake of Gladys Knight and the Pipps "Taste of Bitter love", which is incredible.

9. All you guys from the states, has Craig David sunk without a trace?

10. Mrs Guga, Rightous was saying that Lulu has a new album out at the moment which is top 5 in the UK.

11. G-Ha has crossed into the Kylie-zone.........:p ;)

G-Ha
Jun 18th, 2002, 01:04 AM
I just received word that my reputation has been put on the line, so I raced in here to defend myself! I revealed a deep, dark secret to BCP and now I've been outted! ;) Yes, I admitted to BCP that I like "Love at First Sight" by Kylie. *Damn! Won't this font go any smaller?!* OK, so cut me some slack...aren't we allowed a freebie in bad taste here and there?

(Now I will attempt to redeem myself a bit...I know it's a long road back, though after a Kylie admission...)

1. Love Michael, but only up to about 1983 or 1984. And I agree that "Off the Wall" is one of the all-time greats.

2. I'm long over Ashanti and the entire Murder, Inc. family (Ja Rule, Charlie, etc.) I'm horrified at the news that now Mariah is doing some work with them, because that means we're getting another round of remixes featuring Ja Rule, and no doubt endless sampling.

3. Thanks to BCP, I can attest to the fact that D'Influence's lastest is really good (at least the few tracks I've heard). Definitely more of an R&B feel to it than some of their previous work...but I've loved just about everything I've heard by them. It's really unfortunate that they get no play here in the States.

4. Speaking of Lulu...isn't that her son playing Prince William in that cheesy Royal Family movie?

5. BCP, neither Brandi nor Res have made their way to Oz yet? I like Brandi's lastest...I think it's a really different sound for her. In fact, when I first heard "What About Us" I didn't even know it was her! I also like the one song I've heard by Res (can't remember the name). They don't play her on the radio here in SD, but I've heard the song on cable radio and seen the video a few times on MTV or VH1 and at a local gay pub that plays a remix version of the video (the remix isn't bad either). Funny thing is, when I first heard it I thought she was white. As others have mentioned, I fear that she won't get widespread play because they don't know in what category to put her.

BCP
Jun 18th, 2002, 01:24 AM
Don't worry G-Ha, we've all been in the Kylie closet at some time. I like Better the devil you know.;) Whoever styled the latest video needs to be shot though. Who wears pointy stillettos with cargo pants?!

What's the murder Inc family?

Brandi has been released here for a while, but I've not heard it yet. I think Res has been unleashed here, but once again, I've not heard it. I don't really listen to the radio, so the onlky time I get to check these things out is on Channel V.

Does anyone remeber when Lulu did Dan Hartman's "relight my fire" with Take That? Now there was a camp moment.....

BTW statesiders, have you heard of Robbie Williams?

G-Ha
Jun 18th, 2002, 01:38 AM
Stillettos with cargos?! Now that I have to see! I've only heard the song on the radio here and on my friend's CD (as I do not own her CD, thank you very much! ;) ), so I haven't seen the video yet.

Muder, Inc. is a record label. It's basically the "family" that consists of Ja Rule, Ashanti, Charlie, and I'm sure some other equally annoying members I've forgotten. Now apparently, Mariah is working with some of their artists/producers...I'm cringing at the thought!

Of course we've heard of Robbie...he's hot!

BCP
Jun 18th, 2002, 01:57 AM
Robbie is very yummy........Has he had a hit in the US, or will he actually croos over 10 years from now, like Kylie..........

BCP
Jun 18th, 2002, 02:05 AM
BTW, Murder Inc can't be as annoying as P Diddy's crew.......

Alexandre
Jun 18th, 2002, 09:38 AM
Hi guys :wavey: !

Beige, about Cerrone, I can't say he's well-know in France... He's been forgotten for about 20 years, enormous, isn't it?
He's left France in 1980 or 82 I don't remember, to live in the US and he's had a great career there. Did you get this album "Best of Cerrone" (1995) where Frankie Knukkles, Kevin Saunderson, David Morales remixed his titles. It's a good one!
I found it and got it for only 50FF (around 6 $):D Nobody was interested, because they didn't know him in fact...
Since Bob Sinclar (who's well-known, now in France) recorded the album "Cerrone by Bob Sinclar" last year where he remastered the titles (not remixed in my opinion), Cerrone came back on the "french market". Some people didn't know him before!!!:confused:

Ball, I like british DJs, a Dutch DJ too : he's name is Sander Kleinenberg... I know a good british label which is React, but in France, good house music is distributed by Pschent. I'll give you more details next time (a little bit busy for the moment).

See U ;)

Gonzo Hates Me!
Jun 18th, 2002, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by G-Ha

2. I'm long over Ashanti and the entire Murder, Inc. family (Ja Rule, Charlie, etc.) I'm horrified at the news that now Mariah is doing some work with them, because that means we're getting another round of remixes featuring Ja Rule, and no doubt endless sampling.



Hehe!


Originally posted by G-Ha


4. Speaking of Lulu...isn't that her son playing Prince William in that cheesy Royal Family movie?



I am sure... this is because the boy that plays Prince William is the real life son of Lulu!!!!!

Richie77
Jun 18th, 2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
7.IndyRichie, there is so much crappy corporate R&B...Ja Rule, Puff Daddy, UUURGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!:( But there is some great stuff being made as well. My fave R&B realeases this year are the D'Influence album, D-Vas, Angie Stone's Mahogoney Soul, and Incognito's Life Stranger than fiction. I also like the India Arie album. I was sort of disappointed in the Maxwell album though......... IndyRichie, do you like Masters at Work? You should check out the new album. It's awesome.


You are SO right on, Ball Change! Puf Daddy was okay, but trying to play both ends up the middle - juxtaposing the "Bad Boy" image and the Hamptons - makes him look silly. Ja Rule is SOOO overrated, and wouldn't even have a career if it weren't for Jennifer Lopez, whom I actually like and think is talented enough to stand on her own.
I will make a note of all the albums you suggested, BCP, thanks!:)

Richie77
Jun 18th, 2002, 11:04 PM
Hey everyone:

I listened to two old CDs by Swing Out Sister (Twilight World, Kaleidoscope World), and they were quite good. Has anyone listened to them, and if so, what do you think?

BCP
Jun 18th, 2002, 11:17 PM
IndyRichie, I LOVE Swing Out Sister. Twighlight World is an awesome album. Moon and beige are actually huge fans of theirs. They are still recording, though their last few albums have only been released in Japan, where they are still massive.

BCP
Jun 18th, 2002, 11:26 PM
Alexandre, it sounds like you are into the trance/progressive sound which is pretty big in Europe.....?

Jordan.
Jun 19th, 2002, 07:50 AM
Ok,heres a new great singer I like : Amerie is her name I think,the song is why dont we fall in love.I love it so much!Another one is the girl from City High and Wyclef duet song,I love that song so much....:bounce: :D

Alexandre
Jun 19th, 2002, 11:13 AM
Hi:wavey: !

Ball, what is "trance/progressive" exactly? You know, it's a problem in my country to know what is techno, house, trance... When i go and buy something in a disc shop,I have the choice between "House music" and "Lounge music"(it's what I like). For french people, electronic music means "techno" or dance music and that is all ; for them house and hardcore is approximatively the same :eek: ! I imagine it sounds ridiculous, and it is!
They prefer "french rap" which is awful, for example.
Do you know labels like Javelin or Distance ? I like Global underground, and Glasgow underground as well...
I'd like to find old Chicago or New-York house music, but where is it possible to get it?
Bye for now;)

Richie77
Jun 19th, 2002, 11:24 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
IndyRichie, I LOVE Swing Out Sister. Twighlight World is an awesome album. Moon and beige are actually huge fans of theirs. They are still recording, though their last few albums have only been released in Japan, where they are still massive.


I have to get more of their albums, then. I agree, Twilight World was great, I'm gonna have to listen to it again soon.

Richie77
Jun 19th, 2002, 11:30 PM
Originally posted by Alexandre
Hi:wavey: !

Ball, what is "trance/progressive" exactly? You know, it's a problem in my country to know what is techno, house, trance... When i go and buy something in a disc shop,I have the choice between "House music" and "Lounge music"(it's what I like). For french people, electronic music means "techno" or dance music and that is all ; for them house and hardcore is approximatively the same :eek: ! I imagine it sounds ridiculous, and it is!
They prefer "french rap" which is awful, for example.
Do you know labels like Javelin or Distance ? I like Global underground, and Glasgow underground as well...
I'd like to find old Chicago or New-York house music, but where is it possible to get it?
Bye for now;)

LOL, I get confused about the difference, too.
To me, "trance" is kind of like spacey house dance music. "Trance" is what you zone out too, while "house" what you dance to. I think "techno" is roughly the same thing as "trance," only with a little more electronic elements. Got it? ;)

I kinda like Global Underground, also. The only problem is you can't listen to it when you're doing busywork. I would rather listen to it when I'm driving a highway at night, and you can really get into it (while being careful driving, of course.)

BCP
Jun 19th, 2002, 11:43 PM
To me trance and progressive (a sound which I detest) comes from DJs such as seb Fontaine, Paul Oakenfield, Timo Maas, Sasha & Digweed, Paul Van Dyk, Deep Dish, Carl Cox, Junior Vazquez....the list goes on and on. They are really big sound records where the chord progressions are really obvious, and the music is full of cheesy snare rolls. DJ Otzi, Eiffel 65, Alice Deejay- all of those horrible horrible records.

Alexandre, I like some of the stuff on Glasgow Underground, and Distance. My fave record of the year is a recent release on Distance calledFrom Paris to Chicago by Playin' 4 the city.

If you like Chicago House, try smiuxed compilations by Derrick Carter, Doc Martin, and DJ Heather. There is a fab mixed CD by Derrick Carter at the moment called "About Now" released on 611 records. It's been out for about 8 months.


My fave record labels are Paper recordings out of the UK, Classic recordings out of the UK, and Pan Handle and Naked Music , both out of San Francisco. A good friend of mine spent 6 months in Paris, and said that there is quite an impressive underground house scene in Paris. For great American House, try any of the naked music CDs. They are readily available in all record stores.

It doesn't surprise me that you like lounge music. Paris is the home of lounge music. I like a bit of it, but only when it crosses over to acid jazz. Too much lounge can be a bit dull.

Jordan, I liked that City High record as well. Wasn't it called caramel, or something like that?

BCP
Jun 24th, 2002, 12:00 AM
I heard a bit of the Dawn Robinson album when I went into my local record store on the weekend, and the bits I heard were good. Rightous and Beige, you guys weren't keen on it?

Richie77
Jun 24th, 2002, 11:16 PM
I listened to the entire Res album last night, and liked it. All up-tempo songs, a lot of positive, attitude songs, and all with very different beats.

Beige
Jun 25th, 2002, 01:14 PM
Hey BCP! :wavey: I heard only the single "Envious" but it floundered at black radio. Dawn should've gone the Res route because of the 4 in En Vogue, Dawn had the "rock" voice. Dawn is currently touring America in a musical of Babyface songs. It's not exactly complimentary for black performers. When you take part in the "chitlin circuit" (black plays that tour the nation) it means your career is on the decline. :( In the cast with Dawn is Coko, the former lead singer of SWV. See what I mean? Lol ;)

Richie77
Jun 26th, 2002, 12:24 AM
Originally posted by Beige
Hey BCP! :wavey: I heard only the single "Envious" but it floundered at black radio. Dawn should've gone the Res route because of the 4 in En Vogue, Dawn had the "rock" voice. Dawn is currently touring America in a musical of Babyface songs. It's not exactly complimentary for black performers. When you take part in the "chitlin circuit" (black plays that tour the nation) it means your career is on the decline. :( In the cast with Dawn is Coko, the former lead singer of SWV. See what I mean? Lol ;)

Poor Coko. I always liked SWV.
And maybe Res will inspire Dawn to give rock R&B a try. It's not like she doesn't have experience...remember "Free Your Mind and The Rest Will Follow?"

BCP
Jun 26th, 2002, 12:34 AM
Beige, you are so right. I think an artist knows when their career is coming off the boil when they start to do projects like that....LOL.

In England, a host of has beens go on the pantomime circuit...ie Jason Donovan and Martine McCuteon....Brits, you know what I'm talking about.

BTW, did someone mention on the board a while ago that Toni Braxton was bringing out a new album. Let's hope it's better than her last effort........

Richie77
Jun 26th, 2002, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
BTW, did someone mention on the board a while ago that Toni Braxton was bringing out a new album. Let's hope it's better than her last effort........

If so, I hope that's true. A few years ago she was HOT in the States. But her last album barely got any buzz, and much less radio play.

Kisha
Jun 26th, 2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by ball change pls
Beige, you are so right. I think an artist knows when their career is coming off the boil when they start to do projects like that....LOL.

In England, a host of has beens go on the pantomime circuit...ie Jason Donovan and Martine McCuteon....Brits, you know what I'm talking about.

BTW, did someone mention on the board a while ago that Toni Braxton was bringing out a new album. Let's hope it's better than her last effort........

yep! you got it in the bag there!;) Poor Jason Donovan - had to go to small towns to get the lead part in the Rocky Horror Show!
Martine, well we never really ever know the story on her! One Minute she is always in the press, the next she is ill and then shes lined up to play a new part and is supposed to have a new album out?. i think this is what we call a demise:)

BCP
Jul 4th, 2002, 06:45 AM
Kisha, Jason Donovan is starrinmg in a new TV series here called MDA!!!:eek: :eek: :rolleyes: He looks awful, and I think the series is gonna die a rapid death.

For those who are interested, I bought new new Elizabeth Troy record "Forever Young" which has MJ Cole mixes. It's brilliant. I can't to hear the album.

Beige, remember a long time ago we were discussing the UK Queer as folk vs the American Queer as folk. They are finally screening the American version on Australian TV. I caught the first episode on Monday. It was awful!

Even though the story was practically identical, and some of the lines were even identical, it lost a lot in the translation. I think English people do irony a lot better.

I thought that Joshua (for you UK people Nathan) was ugly!

rightous
Jul 5th, 2002, 03:22 PM
Great to hear Elizabeth has released something and its good, god I was living in fear there.

Martine has no talent what so ever she should stick to Musical's where her blaneness can come to the fore.

Oh and also I here announce that I have asked Christina Milian to Marry me

Kisha
Jul 7th, 2002, 10:49 PM
BCP - Oh my god! Why did they employ him? Lol, im so shocked! and just when i thought id seen the last of him:(

Hello anyway guys! I hope you are all ok and having a wicked time doing whatever your doing!


You know when you listen to an album and then you just dont listen to it for ages then one day you listen to it and discover you love it again? - you guys with me?:p well thats been happening alot recentley! Especially Sunshine Anderson's album! I'm really loving 'Heard it All before' - the first single from the album!

Blu Cantrell is growing on me aswell! I did like her, but i didnt think i liked her as much a this!

Destiny's Child are doing my head in at the moment! They are way to commercial (i know i can't spell!)

I'm gonna list a few tracks and you guys tell me if you are feeling them!

P. Diddy/ Usher - I Need A Girl

Monica - All Eyez On Me

Alicia Keys - How Come You Dont Call Me?

Beverley Knight - Gold

Reelists - Freak Mode

and i'm gonna finish this post with a complaint!!:p

I went into my local Virgin Megastores to find that Michelle Gayle's first album was in the Bargin Bin.:( The worst thing was it was priced at £1.99.

How can a quality artist like Michelle Gayle be worth £1.99. It's just plain wrong:(

Richie77
Jul 7th, 2002, 10:53 PM
Originally posted by Kisha
I'm gonna list a few tracks and you guys tell me if you are feeling them!

P. Diddy/ Usher - I Need A Girl

Monica - All Eyez On Me

Alicia Keys - How Come You Dont Call Me?

Beverley Knight - Gold

Reelists - Freak Mode


Hey Kisha !:wavey:

The only one of those I've heard is the Alicia Keys song...and it's great!

I actually haven't been listening to a lot of today's music lately...been kinda stuck in the 80's :) Except for when it comes to smooth jazz, then I'm a little more up-to-date.

Kisha
Jul 7th, 2002, 11:00 PM
:wavey: Richie!

80's is so cool!

it's where most of the cool stuff is at!

BCP
Jul 8th, 2002, 12:06 AM
Kisha, I liked some of the tracks on Michelle Gayle's first album, but I thought the follow up album (or what I heard of it anyway) was horrible. The nail on the coffin for me was when she got Tony de Vit to do mixes.EWWWWWWWW.

I haven't heard any of the tracks you have listed except for the P Diddy and Usher record. That track is ok, but I can't stand P Diddy.

Rightous, do you like Christine's record, or do you just think she's attractive?

Kisha
Jul 8th, 2002, 06:41 PM
:wavey: BCP!!

I did like some of the tracks on album 2, like 'Do You Know' and 'Sensational' and i thought that the over all result would have been more better than it actually was:( :(

then her 3 rd album got hold back:( which just isnt fair. All the hard work for it and then its just scrapped:( but i'm more annoyed about them giving a track to Emma Bunton. Michelle's song just given to Emma. Thats harsh.


see ya soon

P.S - I love Kelle Bryan!:)

rightous
Jul 10th, 2002, 02:15 PM
Kisha I'm with the others P Diddy is very annoying he can't rap, but the others are slamin' although the Reelist song is old, but you gotta love our Beverly, did you see her at Glastonbury she rocked the joint.

BCP Mmm her records are fine in themselves but she is HOT, that girl can come and play AM to PM with me at any time;) BTW Aden only 9 weeks until I arrive in your great city, I bet you are just dying with excitement!!!!!!!lol

brickhousesupporter
Jul 10th, 2002, 02:18 PM
What do you guys think about Res. She has the song called "They Say Vision". If you guys have any other info on her or any of her other song that I could check please let me know.

rightous
Jul 10th, 2002, 02:22 PM
Hey Brickie, I really like Res she has a bit of an edge to her, check out Golden Boys it has a rock edge to it, I think, according to Gee Man, that is the genre she is in.