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KaseyL
Feb 19th, 2003, 09:36 PM
FYI

This column was in Flemish newspaper Het Belang van Limburg today, Feb 19, 2003

In brief, it brings the news that Flemish Minister-President (= prime minister) Dewael (who was at the finals at the Diamond Games last Sunday) would take Kim's tax issue to heart and would plan to discuss this issue with the Belgian federal minister of Finance.
As reaction the newspaper writes this column, criticising the case quite a bit. For example, the writer (chief-editor) asks Mr Dewael to also take his tax case to the Finance minister, as well as that of friends and family.

For the Flemings who are interested in this matter, here 's the full text: (as I am fed up with these tax stuff, and still have enough other articles to translate/finish and I'm lazy tonight :o :D, sorry, only in Dutch )

Just a quote: 'When he (=the minister-president) got informed about the danger of a possible move of Kim to Australia, he promptly reacted. Kim is the best ambassador Belgium and Flanders could have. That has to stay this way, is Dewael's opinion. Therefore he is prepared to pay a visit to his federal colleague of Finance to see what he could do for Kim.'

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19/02/2003 Een vraagje

Verhuist Kim Clijsters straks definitief naar AustraliŽ en neemt ze er de Australische nationaliteit aan? Dat zou kunnen. Lei Clijsters, zoals de naam laat vermoeden de vader van Kim, dreigt daarmee. Hij vindt namelijk dat zijn dochter hier veel te veel belastingen moet betalen op wat ze verdient als tennisster, met de nadruk op ster. In AustraliŽ is het belastingklimaat milder.

Lei Clijsters heeft overschot van gelijk. Zijn dochter Kim reist de wereld rond, komt in alle steden steevast dezelfde meisjes tegen, wil al eens een toernooi winnen, is de nummer drie van de wereld, maar houdt op het einde van de rit stukken minder over van haar prijzengeld dan alle andere meisjes, uitgezonderd Justine Henin. Want dat is ook een Belgische en die zit dus in hetzelfde schuitje.

Maar er is hoop voor Kim Clijsters en haar vader/manager.Afgelopen zondag speelde ons aller Kim de finale van de Diamond Games in Antwerpen.Op de afgeladen volle tribunes zaten ook wat excellenties, zoals minister-president Patrick Dewael. Toen die werd gewezen op het dreigend gevaar van een verhuis van Kim naar AustraliŽ, reageerde hij prompt. Kim is de beste ambassadrice die BelgiŽ en Vlaanderen zich kunnen indenken. Dat moet zo blijven, vindt Dewael. En daarom is hij bereid om eens bij federaal minister van FinanciŽn Didier Reynders te horen wat die kan doen voor Kim.

Ik wil bij deze Patrick Dewael uitdrukkelijk feliciteren met zijn initiatief.Hij heeft mijn steun. Het enige wat ik aan onze ministerpresident zou willen vragen, is dat hij ook even mijn dossier meeneemt de dag dat hij naar Didier Reynders stapt.

Ik denk dat ik dit mag vragen aan Patrick Dewael,omdat de gelijkenissen tussen Kim Clijsters en mezelf groot zijn, verrassend groot.

Zo verdiende ik net zoals onze Kim 64.000 dollar.OK,zij verdiende dat na amper een week tennissen in Antwerpen, ik had daar beduidend meer tijd voor nodig. Maar 64.000 dollar is 64.000 dollar. Net zoals Kim speel ik ook tennis, zo goed zelfs dat ik soms kan winnen van mijn hoofdredacteur Ivo Vandekerckhove, en dat wil wat zeggen. En net zoals Kim woon ik in Limburg en betaal ik dus in BelgiŽ belastingen. Het enige verschilpunt is dat zij een Australische vriend heeft en zo naar AustraliŽ kan, terwijl ik geen Australische vriendin heb. Maar wat niet is, kan nog komen.

Dus, mijnheer de minister-president, ik vraag het u heel beleefd, neem alstublieft mijn dossier mee naar Didier Reynders.En neem als het niet te veel gevraagd is ook de dossiers van mijn broers Philippe, Patrick, Olivier en Christophe mee, de dossiers van mijn vrienden Jan en Marc en de dossiers van mijn collegaís Luc,Frank, Ivo, Eddy en Koen.

Eric DONCKIER

KaseyL
Feb 21st, 2003, 12:57 PM
A thing on this one, before I forget it :o

This whole tax issue and Kim moving topic was on the radio again, on Flemish Radio 1, just a little bit after 8 AM today.

It was said that the Belgian minister of Finance had answered that there can't be any exception for Kim. (as if he could change the law himself :rolleyes: )
Nevertheless they - maybe - might look into the entire tax issue for athletes, as foreign athletes only pay 18% in Belgium while the Belgian ones pay the whole lot in Belgium.
(Lleyton, come over here: cheaper than Australia :p )
There were also some comments from newspaper journalist Hans Vandeweghe (De Morgen), for once I could quite agree with him btw. :o I won't go into the details again, as I've been writing my comments on Lei's quotes in some other thread related to this Australia topic, but basically Vandeweghe stated that there are quite some legal ways to minimize taxes in Belgium too, as of the moment you create a company (and Kim has one, btw).

Anyway, it's election time coming up in Belgium, so I guess the Flemish minister-president Dewael wanted to be in the news with his efforts to save Kim for Belgium...

A last sidenote: since quite a bit of time there are studies/projects to set up a scheme for all athletes (and not only football players, basketball players 'til now)... so far nothing has been really decided (big surprise... :rolleyes: )
At least I must give credit to Lei for complaining about the discrimination in Belgium if you're not a football player, however I just hope he stops bringing this money issue up in each interview I'm reading since several months :mad: It doesn't serve Kim's public image and it won't solve the tax issue anyway. That's my opinion.

I stop ranting LOL, getting some lunch finally :o (I just don't eat when I'm working on things :o )
I won't forget to post the full humo interview and my Antwerp pics and all, btw. NOT forgotten.

Come-on-kim
Feb 21st, 2003, 07:01 PM
Kim has her society?? :eek:

KaseyL
Feb 21st, 2003, 07:21 PM
Originally posted by Come-on-kim
Kim has her society?? :eek:

Yes, since two years I think (should look that one up).

That's really one of the few legal ways to reduce taxes; at least she got good legal advice I suppose. Several Belgian high profile athletes even don't know that they best would have been off self-employed, this ignorance now means extra financial loss for these athletes.

KaseyL
Feb 21st, 2003, 07:29 PM
The Belgian federal minister of Finance has officially denied in parliament that a special tax treatment can be made for Kim. (of course, what was Dewael thinking :rolleyes: )
He added that this doesn't exclude that she can have a sort of deal with the tax authorities (note: this is an agreement of what the taxes would accept as fair costs, things like that).


OK, hopefully this latest statement by Lei is the last one on the matter for now:

Lei in het Belang van Limburg, Feb 21, 2003:
(first page news btw)

(translated by Ingrid)

"We don't want any special tax rate for Kim and we have never asked for it. We don't want that there would be an exception for Kim. We have to pay taxes like any other Belgian and want to be treated as any other Belgian.

We understand that what was said by minister-president Dewael [see above] has been taken badly by many, but we leave it for what it is."

duck
Feb 21st, 2003, 09:04 PM
Thank you for all your work!

thalle
Feb 21st, 2003, 09:07 PM
Hi Ingrid.
Just want to say THANX for translating all the none-english articles for those of us, who don't understand flemish(?)Great.:D

Nathalie:bounce: :worship: :wavey:

possie
Feb 21st, 2003, 09:21 PM
Ingrid....you are a STAR for translating all that stuff. I would be a lost Aussie without this website :) :)

KaseyL
Feb 21st, 2003, 09:22 PM
You're welcome!

Hawk
Feb 21st, 2003, 10:13 PM
We had a whole mess about professional sports and taxes a few years ago in Canada. The Canadian NHL teams were complaining about how high the taxes are on the rinks (stadiums), especially considering all the money they pay out to players is in American dollars and all the money they make is in Canadian dollars. So the government actually decided to lower the taxes on the buildings for the NHL teams..it lasted one day :o Everyone went nuts that the government was cutting taxes for something as unimportant as sports.

So I assume the same principle would apply here. You can't give athletes or sports teams tax breaks, cause most likely the public won't stand for it.

KaseyL
Feb 24th, 2003, 03:38 PM
It's not the last thing yet re these tax issues:

The Clijsters family will from now on boycot part of the Belgian press, as a result of the tax row of the last days (see my posts above).

Here follows part of Lei Clijsters' press statement today: (Belgian press agency Belga news, Feb 24, 2003)

(translation by Ingrid)

Lei: "After the slander campaign of the last days concerning the proposal of minister-president Dewael for a topsport system, in which the media have abused Kim's name, she and her entourage do no longer wish to be available for that same media."
in Dutch:

"Na de lastercampagne van de voorbije dagen in verband met het voorstel van minister Dewael voor een topsportstatuut, waarbij de media Kims naam hebben misbruikt, wenst zij en haar entourage niet meer ter beschikking te staan van diezelfde media."


Lei said this doesn't mean a total media boycot; it would only apply to "the media who have used Kim's name the past couple of days. We know which ones and we ourselves will determine with whom we still will co-operate."

in Dutch: "Wij weten welke en bepalen zelf met wie we wel nog samenwerken".

KaseyL
Feb 24th, 2003, 03:43 PM
Hope this isn't the start of a sort of cold war like Lleyton has with part of the Aussie media...

Bigkimfan
Feb 24th, 2003, 04:53 PM
Lei has a point!

Elke
Feb 24th, 2003, 05:56 PM
He has a point, but not the right one, I think....

Hawk
Feb 24th, 2003, 06:00 PM
I guess I missed something..what were the media saying about Kim and this tax thing? :confused:

Brαm
Feb 24th, 2003, 06:07 PM
Pff Lei'd better keep his mouth shut, I mean, he should keep the media as his friends.
I don't want them to write any more "ugly" articles on Kim or her father...

He says he wants to stay out of the spotlight, but he's in it almost every week!! :(

Pinkie
Feb 24th, 2003, 06:17 PM
This is so dumb. First rule in media relations: never attack the press. They control their medium; you're never going to win. This is just going to backfire. It's not like the blaclisted press has any incentive to say anything nice about Lei and (if they are being unreasonable) Kim.

Majo
Feb 24th, 2003, 06:28 PM
I think Lei's just too overprotective towards kim... probably he's had some bad experiences with the press when he was still a pro, but that doesn't mean Kim can't handle them... I cannot believe she feels the same way about the whole thing as Lei does... for heaven's sake, she's a grown up woman now, let her at least handle SOME of her own business... (like talking/not talking to the press)

angele87
Feb 24th, 2003, 06:40 PM
Ok Lei is really starting to piss me off :mad: Doesn't he realize that he's the one making Kim look bad and not the press? He started all of this and I feel really bad for Kim that she got caught up in it :( Lei needs to look in the mirror before he starts attacking anybody else :mad:

Pinkie
Feb 24th, 2003, 06:48 PM
:fiery: And another thing: why does he keep doing this when Kim is out of the country? The Australian nationality thing he came up with while Kim was in Australia and that bit of non-news managed to chase her down on the other side of the globe. Now another problem she might not know about but will have to to answer questions about soon:fiery:

Hawk
Feb 24th, 2003, 06:56 PM
He never seems to handle anything quietly! He gets all upset and starts ranting about the media :rolleyes: Does he really not realize that this makes Kim look bad!? :fiery:

gizmo
Feb 24th, 2003, 08:35 PM
sorry in vlaams, ik zou als grote fan kim ook niet graag naar australie zien verhuizen maar ik vind: elke belg gelijk voor de wet als ge ziet wat er netto overblijft van mijn pree is het ook om te schreeuwen hoor, maar ze heeft een kans in haar plaats zou ik waarschijnlijk ook verhuizen. als ze het voor kim zouden kunnen doen dat zou voor de rest van ALLE belgen oneerlijk zijn.

duck
Feb 24th, 2003, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by Pinkie
This is so dumb. First rule in media relations: never attack the press. They control their medium; you're never going to win. This is just going to backfire. It's not like the blaclisted press has any incentive to say anything nice about Lei and (if they are being unreasonable) Kim.

So true. He started this whole tax mess & it just goes on and on...

KaseyL
Feb 25th, 2003, 02:22 PM
There is a growing thread in GM re this whole thing...
I've posted the following remarks in reply to a post:


quote:
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Originally posted by Beggin' Beguine
But did Lei really start it all? It could be that he discussed it with people first, then it leaked to the press and only then he made those comments. I cannot imagine that Lei simply went to the press himself to announce that they're considering an Australian offer.
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YES, he did started it. Nobody was asking him if Kim was going to become an Aussie or something alike. He and only he himself started it. And moreover, he just continued to bring it up in almost each interview since December...

Now, with the latest thing one might blame Minister-president Dewael to put extra oil on the fire, as he was telling that he'd bring the tax issue of Kim to the federal minister of Finance (see CCL for all on that please), which was pretty ridiculous as a move too (but it's election time I suppose.... even a stupid move considering the own party members who didn't manage to get enough tax reductions in Belgium during the current government).

Lei can't be blamed for Dewael's actions and words (like saying stuff like - no quote! - Belgium should do something for Kim as she was such a greatest ambassador... ), but nevertheless, announcing a press boycott for certain parts of the media... NOT wise! He isn't doing Kim a favour here. These tax issues in the media are going to portray Kim in a way she doesn't deserve rather than it would help her "cause".

I can understand Lei for trying to do his best to protect Kim's interests, and using the media for this purpose is understandable. It's more a question of HOW do you use the media, and I have frankly a question mark there, re how he is doing it for Kim.
And now, on top of all, declaring such a selective boycott is such a DON'T DO...

And some other element in this row, to me it comes down to quite some frustration from Lei re Kim's tax situation in Belgium lately.

It's just my theory, but these are my two cents:

1) A bit ago, he mentioned that he had got a severe tax control re Kim's tax year (a full check on her company). He complained to the journalist that he got this tax control already now, although Kim's company doesn't exist that long and other companies don't get such a control so early in their existence.

I think we have to look for one of the big reasons behind all of this in this quote.

And then 2) he knows, based on own experience, that Belgian football players do have a much better tax system than all other athletes (excl. basketball players who are well-off too, taxwise).

He is 100% right that there is discrimination, yes, but than it's a matter of how do deal with this in the media.



Besides all of this, he should consider that no matter how questionable the discrimination is, most Belgians will also be very willing to pay less taxes, as we are among the highest taxed on labour in the western world. The more you talk about these money issues in the media, no matter how right you think you might be, the more you'll get reactions and it will start to live a life of its own.

I just wish he learns something from these past months and start to deal smarter with the media. You can't beat them anyway, so boycotting is simply no option and doesn't serve Kim.

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I also added the following (for the ones who don't want to go to GM to read it):

On another note, I noticed that this thread was started by gogogirl with a :)

Well, that's the poster's good right if he/she thinks it's worth this smilie.

But then reading in this thread that people are comparing Lei to Damir, to tennis fathers from hell, to Richard and whatever... let me put a smilie here too then :rolleyes: (that's my good right, right )

Seriously, anyone who has been following what Lei has been doing for Kim the past years, has been reading Kim and Lei's interviews over the past years, can't even think such a thing.

Lei, in his current role as her manager and spokesperson, wants the best for Kim and doesn't give a damn about what people think of him. He doesn't want to be in the picture, nevertheless he opens his mouth when he thinks he has to act in the interest of Kim.

My only issue is that I question whether his actions are always in the best interest of her... However, no one could doubt the sincerity of his best intentions towards Kim, no one who has been following them over the years.

For that matter, for having these best intentions, I wished we would have far more tennis parents around just like him. There are too many just pushing their children to whatever dreams their parents may have (money, fame, their own unfulfilled dreams,...), regardless the children's own wishes, potential and ability to cope with the high demands of pro tennis life.

So far my rant LOL. (off my lecture chair now )

Hawk
Feb 25th, 2003, 03:33 PM
The thread it GM is now huge :rolleyes:

Now there is also a new thread about Lei being a crazy tennis parent :(


Is this why we don't post articles about Kim in GM? :p

duck
Feb 25th, 2003, 05:19 PM
Yes! The Aussie press has taken hold of it also. This is from the Sydney Morning Herald which appears to be one of their quality newpapers. It (the SMH) is extremely anti-Lleyton.


Clijsters bans Belgian media over tax breaks furore
By Peter Munro and agencies
February 26 2003





World No.3 Kim Clijsters has stopped talking to sections of the Belgian media after claiming they were running a "defamatory campaign" against her over a politician's proposal to cut her tax.

Clijsters's father, Lei, said: "It's our choice. We don't like what people write. People want to sell this shit? OK, it's not our problem. I decide who I want to talk to."

Clijsters's silent treatment mirrors relations between her boyfriend, world No.1 Lleyton Hewitt, and the media, who have not always been on friendly terms.

Hewitt did not appear at this month's Davis Cup preliminary news conference in Sydney, and after refusing a television interview last August in Cincinnati, was fined $US200,000 ($330,000) by the Association of Tennis Professionals.

Lei Clijsters announced the boycott in a statement, in which he complained of a campaign linked to remarks made last week by Patrick DeWael, minister-president of Clijsters's home region of Flanders.


DeWael had proposed changing the taxation laws to grant special concessions to Belgium's international sports stars such as Clijsters and world No.4 Justine Henin-Hardenne.

The statement follows adverse publicity for 19-year-old Clijsters, who last year earned US$1,754,376 in prize money. Sections of the Belgian media claimed DeWael was prompted by comments made by Clijsters last year refusing to rule out a move to Australia if tax concessions were not granted.

Letter pages were also against her, with typical readers' comments such as: "Madam earns more in a week than a normal person earns in a lifetime".

lleytnkim
Feb 25th, 2003, 05:25 PM
Aussie press coverage about the taxes/belgian media ban
from heraldsun.com.au
Belgians fight for 'our' Kim

By MICHAEL WARNER
26feb03

BELGIAN authorities have hatched a plot to stop tennis star Kim Clijsters becoming an Australian citizen.

Clijsters - world No.1 Lleyton Hewitt's girlfriend - is believed to be considering moving to Australia to avoid hefty tax rates.

The 19-year-old has revealed she would like to live in Australia and could qualify as a resident by buying a home or living here for more than 183 days in a financial year.

The president of Clijster's home region of Flanders proposed a plan to reduce tax rates for top sports stars. But the plan was rejected by Belgium's Finance Minister, saying it was impossible to change laws for one person.





from theage.com.au
Kim does a Lleyton :p

Lleyton Hewitt's dislike of certain sections of the media is well documented. Now it seems his girlfriend, Belgian No. 1 Kim Clijsters, has run foul of the press, too. Well, her father, Leo, certainly has, the former professional footballer announcing yesterday that his daughter would no longer talk to certain reporters because he and his daughter had suffered a "defamatory campaign". Old man Clijsters, who announced his boycott in a hand-written statement faxed to a Belgian national news agency, is apparently upset about press comments made about proposed changes to local laws regarding taxation, moves designed to persuade the tennis star not to migrate to Australia. Stormed Leo Clijsters: "People want to sell this shit? I decide who I want to talk to. It's people who write stupid things and some things they make up themselves. It's our choice. We don't like what people write." So there!

lleytnkim
Feb 25th, 2003, 05:31 PM
Originally posted by duck
This is from the Sydney Morning Herald which appears to be one of their quality newpapers. It (the SMH) is extremely anti-Lleyton.

No shit!!! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Clijsters's silent treatment mirrors relations between her boyfriend, world No.1 Lleyton Hewitt, and the media, who have not always been on friendly terms.

Hewitt did not appear at this month's Davis Cup preliminary news conference in Sydney, and after refusing a television interview last August in Cincinnati, was fined $US200,000 ($330,000) by the Association of Tennis Professionals.

Sydney morning herald brings up Lleyton's past conflicts. Gee, I'm shocked! :rolleyes:

possie
Feb 27th, 2003, 08:54 AM
Originally posted by duck
Yes! The Aussie press has taken hold of it also. This is from the Sydney Morning Herald which appears to be one of their quality newpapers. It (the SMH) is extremely anti-Lleyton.


Clijsters bans Belgian media over tax breaks furore
By Peter Munro and agencies
February 26 2003





World No.3 Kim Clijsters has stopped talking to sections of the Belgian media after claiming they were running a "defamatory campaign" against her over a politician's proposal to cut her tax.

Clijsters's father, Lei, said: "It's our choice. We don't like what people write. People want to sell this shit? OK, it's not our problem. I decide who I want to talk to."

Clijsters's silent treatment mirrors relations between her boyfriend, world No.1 Lleyton Hewitt, and the media, who have not always been on friendly terms.

Hewitt did not appear at this month's Davis Cup preliminary news conference in Sydney, and after refusing a television interview last August in Cincinnati, was fined $US200,000 ($330,000) by the Association of Tennis Professionals.

Lei Clijsters announced the boycott in a statement, in which he complained of a campaign linked to remarks made last week by Patrick DeWael, minister-president of Clijsters's home region of Flanders.


DeWael had proposed changing the taxation laws to grant special concessions to Belgium's international sports stars such as Clijsters and world No.4 Justine Henin-Hardenne.

The statement follows adverse publicity for 19-year-old Clijsters, who last year earned US$1,754,376 in prize money. Sections of the Belgian media claimed DeWael was prompted by comments made by Clijsters last year refusing to rule out a move to Australia if tax concessions were not granted.

Letter pages were also against her, with typical readers' comments such as: "Madam earns more in a week than a normal person earns in a lifetime".


Hey Duck........you beat me to it. I was just about to type up this article from the SMH, but you move a lot faster than me :) :)......maybe next time....

rikvanlooy
Apr 11th, 2003, 01:39 PM
:bounce: YAY!!! :bounce:
i only hope it DOES have an english part...cos that would be REALLY frustrating if it didn't...all that info and unable to read any of it! :sad:


The fact that her father asked for Belgian tax reductions has been discussed in Belgian parliament. They made clear that no way now how Kim would receive another treatment than the other Belgian citizens.

Lei Clijsters always tells everybody who wants to listen that the Australian government has promised enormous tax cuts if Kim adopts the Australian nationality. He pisses me off because he implies that Belgium has given him nothing. The only reason why his daughter is that good, is because he is rich enough to let his daughters play tennis.

For the Australians :

Have the Australian papers/television (or other media)/politicians talked about this tax issue/nationality issue ?

[Mod message:

don't see what this is doing in the thread about Kim's website, really.

And everyone is entitled to his opinion, but I'd like to point out that this is a fan forum, and reading that you say that the only reason why Kim is so good a player is because her dad was rich, is at least quite a statement...

Ingrid]

Lynx
Apr 11th, 2003, 01:47 PM
rikvanlooy - what for heaven's sake has this to do with Kim's first official website?

The tax-hype was discussed very toroughly in this forum AND in GM AND at other sites... as you must know I think, since you're a member since january.

Why bring it up again - in GM as well as here? FINALLY it has died out - and there you are. What's the use of getting people upset about something that maybe (probably?) will never happen?

Please, stop it? :(

rikvanlooy
Apr 11th, 2003, 01:57 PM
rikvanlooy - what for heaven's sake has this to do with Kim's first official website?

The tax-hype was discussed very toroughly in this forum AND in GM AND at other sites... as you must know I think, since you're a member since january.

Why bring it up again - in GM as well as here? FINALLY it has died out - and there you are. What's the use of getting people upset about something that maybe (probably?) will never happen?

Please, stop it? :(


Je hebt misschien gelijk, maar iedere maal dat ik die Lei zie, krijg ik iets.

Ik ben die vent grondig zat met zijn zever over te veel belastingen betalen.

Lynx
Apr 11th, 2003, 02:41 PM
Ok. :)

Ik heb nooit iets tegen Lei gehad - ik heb'm altijd een grote meneer gevonden - dus stoort het mij dan weer als hij daarop altijd wordt aangevallen. Waar: ik hou ook niet van zijn aanhoudend gezeik over de belastingen; anderzijds heeft hij alleen nog maar uitgesproken wat een heleboel anderen met stille trom hebben gedaan, namelijk uitwijken naar een belastingsparadijs. Wie is dan het eerlijkst?

But let's not discuss this before anything happens in that department, please. :)

DutchieGirl
Apr 13th, 2003, 03:55 PM
this was answered already in GM!!!

Kim would get "tax cuts" in Australia because our tax rate isn't so high as in Belgium!

In BelgiŽ Kim moet 67% belasting betalen - in AustraliŽ ze zoudt enige 47% belasting betalen! Dus krijgt ze een "tax cut" in AustraliŽ!!!

KaseyL
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:05 PM
this was answered already in GM!!!

Kim would get "tax cuts" in Australia because our tax rate isn't so high as in Belgium!

In BelgiŽ Kim moet 67% belasting betalen - in AustraliŽ ze zoudt enige 47% belasting betalen! Dus krijgt ze een "tax cut" in AustraliŽ!!!

I don't want to start about the subject at the moment, as it isn't in the media right now, however just for the record (again):

There is no tax rate of 67% in Belgium.

(and no, I don't think Belgium is a tax haven, as the country f.i. has one of the highest tax rates on labour in Europe but isn't so unfriendly when it comes to fortunes, btw) Just for the record.

KaseyL
Apr 20th, 2003, 10:10 PM
The fact that her father asked for Belgian tax reductions has been discussed in Belgian parliament. They made clear that no way now how Kim would receive another treatment than the other Belgian citizens.

Lei Clijsters always tells everybody who wants to listen that the Australian government has promised enormous tax cuts if Kim adopts the Australian nationality. He pisses me off because he implies that Belgium has given him nothing. The only reason why his daughter is that good, is because he is rich enough to let his daughters play tennis.

For the Australians :

Have the Australian papers/television (or other media)/politicians talked about this tax issue/nationality issue ?


Mod message:

don't see what this is doing in the thread about Kim's website, really. Therefore I've moved the posts re the subject to the existing related thread.

And everyone is entitled to his opinion, but I'd like to point out that this is a fan forum, and reading that you say that the only reason why Kim is so good a player is because her dad was rich, is at least quite a statement...

Ingrid