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selesrules
Feb 16th, 2003, 07:38 PM
......................... Venus/Serena ........ Martina/Lindsay

Titles.................... 50 .......................... 78
Grandslams............ 9 ........................... 8
Weeks at no.1........ 44 ......................... 247
Head-to-head......... 35 ......................... 28

TITLES
Martina/Davenport lead by a good amount.

GRANDSLAMS
Venus/Serena lead by 1 more grandslam.

WEEKS AT NO.1
Serena & Venus are assured to add no.1 weeks at least for the next few months, but Hingis/Davenport lead in that category by far.

HEAD-TO-HEAD
Venus & Serena lead, mainly because of the Serena vs Davenport head-to-head.

So, if they all retire today, which combo is greater?

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From previous non-poll thread I'm copying the replies:


OnlytheBallShouldBounce posted

Venus and Serena

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Naldo posted

Martina/Lindsay!!!!!!!!!

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Leonheart posted

maybe we should have a poll on this?

Martina/Lindsay for sure!!

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VS Fan posted

Martina and Lindsay have been on the tour longer and have already past their peaks. There was very little competetion to them during their peak years.

Venus and Serena are only NOW reaching their peak performance, and only time will tell if they can maintain it.

Try the comparison over just the last FOUR years and see how it stacks up!. Should be quite a difference, but then Lindsay had injuries and Martina simply lost her ability to compete with Venus and Serena (since early 2001) BEFORE her injury. I would NOT count Lindsay out just yet. She has the game, but just needs to get her mental confidence back.

LeonHart
Feb 16th, 2003, 07:39 PM
:D thx

selesrules
Feb 16th, 2003, 07:40 PM
you're welcome :)

Volcana
Feb 16th, 2003, 07:58 PM
Evert/Navratilova

AjdeNate!
Feb 16th, 2003, 08:01 PM
Seles/Graf will never replicated or duplicated. But of the 2 pairs....right now it'd be Martina/Lindsay, but that could change as soon as this year.

BombsAway
Feb 16th, 2003, 08:01 PM
One is already retired and her tenure at No. 1 is questionable since she possessed an inability to Win slams like a TRUE NO. 1 would.

vs1
Feb 16th, 2003, 08:02 PM
It's all about the grandslams, baby!
Venus & Serena have surpassed Lindsay and Martina, and they will distance themselves even more.

TSequoia01
Feb 16th, 2003, 08:04 PM
TOTAL MATCHES


HINGIS/DAVENPORT

1228

VENUS/SERENA

618



:cool:

schris
Feb 16th, 2003, 08:34 PM
Graf/Navratilova :p

WtaTour4Ever
Feb 16th, 2003, 08:40 PM
hmmm, would love to say Venus and Serena, but it would appear that Marti and Lindsay by the #s.

When ranked #1 and #2 how many times did Marti and Lindsay meet in the finals of tournys "all not just the slams"

goodolvs
Feb 17th, 2003, 04:55 AM
venus&serena!

SerenaSlam
Feb 17th, 2003, 04:58 AM
give us some stats from 2000 and up on these two pairs. i think you will see a whole different outlook!

Cybelle Darkholme
Feb 17th, 2003, 05:37 AM
what is the basis for grouping hingis and lindsay together? In fact why group venus and serena together? last time I checked tennis was a single sport.

Robbie.
Feb 17th, 2003, 05:52 AM
cybelle I think the basis is pretty obvious.

Hingis and Davenport occupied the #1 and #2 spots in the rankings for three straight years, (1998-2000) and on either side of those 3 years one held the #1 ranking (hingis in 1997/Davenport in 2001). Infact no-one outside of these two held the #1 ranking from March 1997 until October 2001- thats a long time. They won 8/13 slams over a three year period. They DOMINATED concurrently.

Now Venus and Serena have won 8/11 grandslams since mid 2000. Each has held the #1 ranking in that period. They are DOMINATING concurrently.

Often a tennis players legacy is linked just as much to their rivalries with other players as to their individual achievements, especially when the rivalry prevented one player from compiling a greater record than they already do have. Just like you can rarely mention Navratilova without Evert or Graf without Seles, the records of Davenport and Hingis are inextricably bound together in history, and apart from their connection as siblings Serena and Venus will be remembered for their rivalry too. No tennis player is an island :cool:

FP
Feb 17th, 2003, 06:59 AM
no doubt it should be Martina/Lindsay

Maajken
Feb 17th, 2003, 08:58 AM
Definitely Martina and Lindsay

Sharapower
Feb 17th, 2003, 09:06 AM
Martina and Lindsay, by now.
Venus isn't appearing to be really able to challenge Serena's supremacy at the moment.
But it might change soon, anyway.

1jackson2001
Feb 17th, 2003, 09:38 AM
Since the question was if they just all suddenly retired today...I pick Martina/Lindsay...


...but in the history books Serena/Venus might be more of interest since they are African American sisters who played in so many consecutive GS finals.

persond
Feb 17th, 2003, 11:11 AM
Too, too, bad the stats for weeks at No.1 don't include the depth of the tour!!! I could see how a No. 1 (still an earned position) would be easier or more difficult based on the depth of the tour and what challengers there were for the position!!! Get the picture???

For it really could be a matter of quantitative vs qualitative. Not suggesting one shouldn't be rewarded for their consistency, but, could very well be a so-called "weak" no. 1, for weeks on end!!!

Dawn Marie
Feb 17th, 2003, 11:17 AM
At this point it sure aint M/L cause at this point Hingis aint playin'? wtf?

Why not do Seles/Jennifer or Kim/juju

Anyway my pick is S/V too much stats to post.