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lmoon1
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:14 AM
We all know that alot of people run around their backhands to smack forehands, but who consistently runs around their FOREHAND to smack their backhand?

The only one I can think of is Venus.

Rtael
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:16 AM
Justine Henin doesn't really do that, especially now that she has worke don her forehand and it's much better, however if she were to run around the hit backhand, it certainly wouldn't be a bad choice =P

brickhousesupporter
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:18 AM
Serena does this alot. As a matter of fact, watch a doubles match with Serena and you will see that she hits that return all the time.

o0O0o
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:19 AM
Serena does this a lot. Why? I can't figure it out. Her forehand is leagues ahead of her backhand.

Jericho
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:21 AM
venus - she got an honorable mentian in that "best strokes of all time" article for her inside out backhand return crosscourt...

Sam L
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:21 AM
Monica Seles also does it sometimes. But she doesn't run around it so to speak.

Regarding Venus, in the Australian Open final, John McEnroe said something about how he couldn't believe she ran around her forehand to hit her backhand on some of the points. He said he found it crazy! :confused:

I also do it when I play, it's my more consistent side and I like hitting it DTL ;)

brickhousesupporter
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:21 AM
Don't know why but it is a shot that she loves to hit.

LeonHart
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:50 AM
Originally posted by brickhousesupporter
Don't know why but it is a shot that she loves to hit.

Maybe becuz her forehand is probably her only weakness? :o...

Leena
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:53 AM
The Williams' backhands makes fewer errors though.

I can't think of another player that does that.

CB
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:58 AM
I do that a lot ;)

Hehe

Venus Forever
Feb 12th, 2003, 02:14 AM
Venus

The one specific shot that I can remember when she did this was the finals of New Haven last year. On match point, Lindsay hit the serve into the body on the Duece side of the court. Venus just scooted to the right, and hit an insideout backhand return winner to win the championship. It was great.

joegerardi
Feb 12th, 2003, 03:07 AM
An inside-out backhand is not the same thing as a run-around backhand.

An inside out backhand is where someone hits a backhand that travels on an angle towards the sideline on the same side of the court. It's the opposite of a crosscourt shot.

For example: You're standing about mid-court at the baseline and you're a right-hander. You hit the backhand and it's direction travels towards the left side of the court.

..Joe

Daniela Hantuchova has a beautiful I/O BH

Robbie.
Feb 12th, 2003, 03:09 AM
Tatiana Panova also has a lovely inside out backhand :)

Venus Forever
Feb 12th, 2003, 03:12 AM
Originally posted by joegerardi
An inside-out backhand is not the same thing as a run-around backhand.

An inside out backhand is where someone hits a backhand that travels on an angle towards the sideline on the same side of the court. It's the opposite of a crosscourt shot.

For example: You're standing about mid-court at the baseline and you're a right-hander. You hit the backhand and it's direction travels towards the left side of the court.

..Joe

Daniela Hantuchova has a beautiful I/O BH

I know that quite well.

Venus did exactly what you said. It was a body serve, but Venus had to step to the right, and she hit an insideout backhand return winner. It wasn't a run-around. But, it was beautiful. Lindsay didn't even atempt to retrieve it.

LeonHart
Feb 12th, 2003, 03:15 AM
oh i get it! Lindsay and Kim has a great inside out backhand then. not to mention Martina :hearts: one of the best ball placers in tennis.

Yak
Feb 12th, 2003, 04:05 AM
Kournikova does it often! She has played so many doubles and when she plays doubles, she is usually on the deuce court so it's the natural return. She does it often, but it's not her best shot!

Oasiatic
Feb 12th, 2003, 04:14 AM
Venus and Serena do it all the time, though Venus hits it way better and in my opinion much harder and more consistently than lil sis.

My tennis buddy kills me with it sometimes, headache to retrieve when it's short and angled and you're way on the baseline :o

WtaTour4Ever
Feb 12th, 2003, 04:15 AM
Originally posted by VeNuS FoReVeR
I know that quite well.

Venus did exactly what you said. It was a body serve, but Venus had to step to the right, and she hit an insideout backhand return winner. It wasn't a run-around. But, it was beautiful. Lindsay didn't even atempt to retrieve it.


VF I remember that point very well b/c when she hit it I was thinking Dayuummmmmm.

If I recall correctly Jennifer has a pretty nice inside out forehand doesn't she.


How do you hit an inside out shot anyway, I haven't quite figured it out.

Keith
Feb 12th, 2003, 04:17 AM
I have a stronger backhand than forehand. I sometimes run around and choose my backhand because I have better placement and more power on it than my forehand most of the time. Plus, its a more consistent shot for me.

Sam L
Feb 12th, 2003, 04:21 AM
Originally posted by WtaTour4Ever
How do you hit an inside out shot anyway, I haven't quite figured it out.

The backhand comes to me naturally, but I haven't quite figured out a forehand inside out yet. I can but I have to really run around and FORCE it.

LeonHart
Feb 12th, 2003, 04:40 AM
I can do it with both my forehand and backhand, although my backhand shot turns into a moonball...something i gotta work on :(. My forehand is ok though. I get used to it by hittin the ball against the wall.

treufreund
Feb 12th, 2003, 05:56 AM
I have seen Hingis hit that shot quite a bit and Henin-Hardenne a few times along with Seles, Pierce and Williams sisters.

As far as Serena running around a forehand to hit an inside out backhand I can only imagine that she might do that to prevent overrotating her torso on the forehand and knocking the shot wide. In other words, just feeling more comfortable not having to create an acute angled forehand if she is getting jammed. But in general her forehand is much better. This, however, is a very specific case.

louloubelle
Feb 12th, 2003, 06:20 AM
Originally posted by treufreund
I have seen Hingis hit that shot quite a bit and Henin-Hardenne a few times along with Seles, Pierce and Williams sisters.



Hingis is the best player I have seen do this. Her Wimbledon final in the 90's over Novotna highlighted this shot. Jana approached down the middle and Hingis ripped this off-backhand continuously and you could never tell which direction it was going.

joegerardi
Feb 12th, 2003, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by WtaTour4Ever
How do you hit an inside out shot anyway, I haven't quite figured it out.

There's 2 ways to do it. The easier way is to slightly turn your body more to the left (for a right-hander) and just hit a normal shot. That's not the best way because you're telegraphing your shot to your opponent.

The second way is to take the ball a little late. It requires great timing, and a LOT of practice, but your opponent never sees it coming.

I have this very instinctive 2HBH. Even my coach says that. I have no idea how it works, but work it does. I've naturally developed the late hit I/O, and I'm afraid to screw with my BH at all, because it works so well for me.

..Joe

vogus
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:10 PM
You don't usually see players running around their forehands to hit a backhand, even if the backhand is better, because you can recover off a forehand in time to run to the far corner of the court. Off a backhand, especially a 2 handed, if you don't hit a winner you're pretty much screwed because you're falling out of the court to your right side.

Venus likes this shot but she usually only uses it to hit clean winners.

In doubles, different story - players use it a lot since they don't have to worry about covering the left side of the court. I agree that Kournikova is, or at least used to be, the master of the inside out backhand.

graf630
Feb 12th, 2003, 01:10 PM
I have seen many of the pros hit this shot.I think this is a natural shot from the deuce court,especially in doubles.You need to return the ball cross court.This is also the best shot to poach on in doubles. I can hit a winner in the alley everytime with the inside out backhand.My favorite shot! I think Serena and Anna hit it the best.

Mark43
Feb 12th, 2003, 02:11 PM
Dally Randriantefy ! Great shot. Dally is the next true superstar!!

I think the best was Hingis. Wonderful disguise.

Messenger
Feb 12th, 2003, 02:18 PM
Silvia Talaja.

None of the top players do so I believe. Venus, no. They may do so on occasion, but they won't run around it as if they were Steffi Graf. For example, Justine has a strong backhand but her forehand would need to be a lot less effective offensively which it isn't.