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2284
Jan 24th, 2003, 12:51 PM
Against Spain on clay in Spain. Sounds bad unless you consider that:
1. Arantxa has retired
2. Martinez lost to Sam Stosur beat her in the 1st round of the Aus. Open
3. Alicia beat Virginia in Hopman Cup (and Alicia should have recovered from her injury by April)

Sonf@
Jan 24th, 2003, 02:22 PM
Alicia didn´t bt Virginia in the Hopman Cup

Mateo Mathieu
Jan 24th, 2003, 02:27 PM
Sonfo is right! Alicia didn't played Virginia :rolleyes:

But it will be play on clay and it will be different story.

lindsay_lee
Jan 26th, 2003, 04:28 AM
This should be an interesting tie. My predicitions re team selections.
Spain:
Martinez
Serna
Ruano
Marrero
Australia:
Pratt
Molik [provided injury free]
Evie
Stubbs

anabel
Feb 5th, 2003, 07:30 PM
Australia has not chances on clay against Spain.

Gowza
Feb 6th, 2003, 01:28 AM
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO Australia!

ozfan44
Feb 12th, 2003, 02:28 AM
come on australia its bout time we had a win

Mateo Mathieu
Feb 12th, 2003, 03:07 AM
I hope we can beat Spain! :D

aussiefan83
Feb 15th, 2003, 02:06 AM
Anabel you really shouldnt ever say that Australia has no chance in a sporting event. But yes it will be very difficult.

GO AUSTRALIA!!!! :)

[S@nti]
Feb 16th, 2003, 11:00 AM
I hope Marta will play :D

anabel
Feb 16th, 2003, 07:22 PM
It's a way of talking...

SM
Feb 19th, 2003, 12:46 AM
its a way of talking = pure arrogance. LOL. never discount australia we will most likely be evenly matched

MS
Feb 19th, 2003, 07:32 AM
I don't think a tie is won before playing it. Spain is the favourite to win, at home, on clay, but you never know ;)

spiceboy
Feb 19th, 2003, 09:28 AM
If Alicia is not in the team Australia's chances are very very poor...

anabel
Feb 19th, 2003, 10:59 AM
pffft :p Arrogance?? Nah... ;)

spiceboy
Feb 19th, 2003, 11:02 AM
Anabel arrogant?

You must be joking... ;)

Sharapova's_Boy
Feb 20th, 2003, 10:12 AM
It's gonna be tough for Australia......

ozfan44
Feb 21st, 2003, 04:17 AM
dont think alicia will be back

lindsay_lee
Feb 21st, 2003, 04:32 AM
The team will likely now be:
Pratt
Evie
Sam S
Stubbs
It'll be interesting to see if the Captain selects Sam instead of Evie. Sam did well in Melbourne and has recently qualified for an event, where she held match points against Stevenson.
Evie, on the other hand, has lost quite tamely in the past few qualifying events she has entered.

TS
Feb 21st, 2003, 04:59 AM
Stosur is in much better form than Evie and has a good chance of playing singles (if selected), but Evie is pretty good on clay, whereas Sam is untried. But there is still a lot of tennis to be played til then, so lets just wait and see how they both do...

With Alicia out (possibly) it is likely to be Pratt, Dominikovic, Stosur and Stubbs, as most people here have mentioned. Nicole, Evie and Sam are all competent doubles players also.

What will the Spanish team most likely be?

MS
Feb 21st, 2003, 07:47 AM
We won't know the Spanish team till 10 days before the tie, I guess, but it might be:

Conchita Martínez, Virginia Ruano, Magüi Serna and Marta Marrero (or maybe Cristina Torrens, Mª Antonia Sánchez...)

Gowza
Feb 21st, 2003, 09:05 AM
wouldn't they pic marrero over serna because she has better results on clay courts. is serna more consistent on clay than marrero because i know that marta did make it to the quarters of the french in 2000.

anabel
Feb 21st, 2003, 11:05 AM
Magüi has better results than Marta on clay. Altough Marta has been a QF at Roland, Magüi has won 1 clay title, reached other 2 finals, and was QF in tournaments like Hilton Head or 4th round at the French Open.

louloubelle
Feb 21st, 2003, 11:41 AM
If Alicia is out, and Evie cannot show a sustained period of form, I'd blood Stosur.

Evonne left Evie out of the Belgium tie for Stosur, so it maybe conceivable that Sam would play if Evie doesn't lift.

This tie is possible for Australia to win even on clay, considering the up and down form of Martinez and Serna over the last couple of years.

Gowza
Feb 21st, 2003, 11:52 AM
marta has also had very up and down form.

one match she'll beat a top 30 player and the next she will lose to someone ranked outside the top 100.

if alicia is back and playing the way she did earlier in the year and if stosur is in the team australia has a bit of a chance although i don't know how well stosur plays on clay.

evie is an ok clay court player at least in australia womens terms.

pratt would be playing how is she on clay?

Gowza
Feb 21st, 2003, 11:59 AM
found some results of pratty's (her better one's on clay).

madrid 2000 she beat suarez 5-7 5-0 but suarez retired.

charleston 2001 she beat ruano pascual and farina elia.

amelia island 2002 she beat panova

roland garros 2002 she beat serna.

but she has been inconsistent on clay so it's a bit of a gamble taking her but she is our highest ranked player, she has the most experience and she has beaten some good clay court players over the years.

louloubelle
Feb 21st, 2003, 12:43 PM
Not sure what you mean by 'a bit of a gamble taking her'. Nicole is an automatic singles inclusion, even with Molik playing. And would most likely front up for doubles too. There is no one around that would come close to filling her shoes.

Yes her clay court results aren't great, but better than any other Aussie. Well apart from Rachel McQuillan, but lets not go there!!!

Would like to see Evie back up her 3rd rnd French effort last year, by playing a full claycourt season.

Gowza
Feb 21st, 2003, 11:07 PM
what i meant by 'a bit of a gamble takig her' is that she may play well or she may not and it is hard to tell. if she plays well she has a big chance against everyone in the spanish team but if she plays badly then she'll probably lose to all of them.

louloubelle
Feb 22nd, 2003, 11:10 PM
We'll have to live and die with Nicole against Spain. It's hard to know whether her scrappy baseline game will overcome the likes of Martinez, Serna etc... It's not that Nicole ever plays really poorly, but she tends to lose because often players can dictate terms against her because she hasn't the huge artillery off the ground.

At least we'll know she'll give 100% and not fall apart out there.

I think we are in with a chance!

Gowza
Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:12 AM
yeah we're in with a chance and i have to agree that nicole needs to be a automatic into the team.

what's stosur like on clay? or wheeler?

i'm pretty sure evie will be picked but if alicia is still injured or not at 100% then who will come in?

louloubelle
Feb 23rd, 2003, 05:55 AM
Wheeler won a rnd at the French last year against Kournikova, who I must say played pretty disgusting. Wheeler really just had to keep the ball in play at the end.

But I don't think either her or Stosur have played enough on clay to know how good they are.

TS
Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:17 PM
Christina is pretty decent on clay....in 2001 she played really well to reach the 3rd round of qualies at RG, and of course beat Anna K last year (well anyone could have quite frankly). She also qualified for Palermo a few months later. Anyway, she wont figure in the selections (unless she lifts her game in the next 2 months), unfortunately her progress has been slowed by a nagging foot injury and her form has been a little off radar....hopefully she can start utilising her obvious talent cos she's almost 21 and it's now or never!

Oops, Im rambling ;)

louloubelle
Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:43 PM
Hasn't she been working with Nicole Pratt??? I hope so because though she looks reasonably fit, for her to go anywhere she'll need to build up to the physique of Pratt or Coetzer. For someone of limited power this is essential.

Tho TS i remember you (or maybe someone else, sorry if I got it wrong) hinting that maybe they were more than training partners :confused: :D ;) Any truth to this rumour??? :D

TS
Feb 23rd, 2003, 12:52 PM
lol, yes it was me (and also Ausboy). Who knows really!...I was at the training camp watching pre-qualies for AO, and they had finished a session and looked quite cozy, giggling all the way to the showers (sorry couldnt resist). Nicole was also watching Christina's first round qualy match against Nemeckova at AO, obviously this doesnt mean they are 'more than friends' but it's always cool to speculate and be nosey :D
Yeah Christina is very fit and obviously has been working with Nicole's team too when Nicole is in Mebourne (as she recently bought an apartment here). But differing schedules means they probably cant train together too often...unless they do it long distance ;)

It may just be a 'big sis' thing, or it may not...but it wouldnt surprise me either way :o

louloubelle
Feb 23rd, 2003, 01:02 PM
LOL thanx for the 'speculated dirt'!!!!

Nicole was also at her Koukalova match too!!!

I would've thought Christina could've done a little better than Nicole, but each to their own!!!

TS
Feb 23rd, 2003, 01:06 PM
Me too :o I think Nicole is a little too blunt with some of the girls and and too forward (she was awfully close with Eleni Daniilidou on the practice courts) geez, Nicole you're getting a reputation :o

I didnt see Nicole at the Koukalova match as I was on the other side and couldnt see as clear! But I figured she'd be around ;)

louloubelle
Feb 23rd, 2003, 01:14 PM
I also know that she was renting a place off Rennae Stubbs at one stage. Another cozy relationship ;)

I should stop..... because I love Nicole!

But as for Nicole and Eleni, that wouldn't be something I'd like to witness. ;)

OOppps TS I've noticed your Greek flag. Strike that last sentence :o :D ;)

TS
Feb 23rd, 2003, 01:19 PM
LOL :D Looks like I'm creating quite a stir ;)

Nah, its all good! I love Nicole too and hope people dont think Im putting her down...just having some fun :p