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Internet Lover
Jan 6th, 2002, 11:49 PM
I read a magazine article that talked about that and I totally think it's not possible. Straight is straight and gay is gay so I can't even see a gay person turn like some of the straight guys at my school gays. The jocks especially would probably kick your butt if you tried. The article said that it doesn't like happen real fast but the gay person can slowly turn the straight person gay just like kinda convincing them by making them think thaty being gay like seems really cool and exciting. What do you guys think?

per4ever
Jan 7th, 2002, 12:25 AM
not possible..either you are gay or you aren't.

alexxx
Jan 7th, 2002, 12:35 AM
I think it's possible...it depends a lot on the person you want to turn, there are some boys who are so ambiguous and you can´t know if they´re gay or not!It's certain that it would be very difficult to make someone gay in one night if they have not any gay inclination...but with the time you can convince anyone,just making them feel loved.

carot
Jan 7th, 2002, 12:41 AM
why wouldn't that be possible? What about all those bi people then? I don't see any reason why that would be totally impossible.

Cersei
Jan 7th, 2002, 12:44 AM
in my honest humble opinion nobody is 100% gay or straight.
so yes it is possible.you never know who you might fall for.

Internet Lover
Jan 7th, 2002, 01:10 AM
You guys I was talking about straight people not bisexuals. I just think that let's say a gay guy liked a straight guy then it would be totally impossible for the gay guy to turn the straight guy gay because the straight guy has only liked girls
and would never even think of being with a guy. To me it's just impossible. If the gay guy was able to turn the straight guy gay then the straight guy was never straight to begin with.

carot
Jan 7th, 2002, 01:23 AM
It all depends what your view on your sexuality is i guess. To me part of it comes with the genes or so, but another part is how you got through your childhood, what you experienced as a kid. So in my opinion it is possible that someone changes from gay to hetero or viceversa because of strong feelings or experiences in your life. But what do i know lol.

Dahveed
Jan 7th, 2002, 02:31 AM
But what if you fall in love with that gay guy and take the plunge and have a relationship with him? Then don't you become at least bisexual? :D

OMG, it's complicated :eek:

Giuliano
Jan 7th, 2002, 03:19 AM
What is more important then? Biological attraction? or "feeling attraction"? :confused:

Cersei
Jan 7th, 2002, 03:22 AM
it's kinda complex isn't it?:eek:

Scotso
Jan 7th, 2002, 03:22 AM
I totally agree with Poe. I'm not attracted to females in the least, but there are some girls that I have totally fallen for. And, I think that I might handle being with them. Even though I'm gay. So, I think it's possible for a str8 person to fall in love with someone of their own sex, but like Poe, I don't think it would make them gay.

Randy H
Jan 7th, 2002, 05:14 AM
no, definetly not. if a gay guy turned a straight guy "gay", then he probably wasn't "straight" in the first place...i think that that person must have already been a least bisexual to begin with, in order to recognize such an attraction. i don't think anyone's 100% one or the other anyway though, so based on that theory, i think it is possible for anyone to find a strong connection with anyone of any gender.

CanadianBoy21
Jan 7th, 2002, 09:33 AM
wow, good question.

If a gay guy can turn a straight guy to like/love a guy, then that means that a straight girl can turn a gay guy to like/love her.
Meaning that a straight guy can turn a lesbian to a straight girl...further to complicate things, a straight girl might fall in love with a gay guy, who was a straight guy, who know became gay guy, who now became stairght.:confused:

gorecki
Jan 7th, 2002, 10:34 AM
Originally posted by Superhero
wow, good question.

If a gay guy can turn a straight guy to like/love a guy, then that means that a straight girl can turn a gay guy to like/love her.
Meaning that a straight guy can turn a lesbian to a straight girl...further to complicate things, a straight girl might fall in love with a gay guy, who was a straight guy, who know became gay guy, who now became stairght.:confused:


Hmm has anyone watched [Chasing Amy] or [The Object of My Affection]?

irma
Jan 7th, 2002, 12:05 PM
There are women who were only with men for about 20 years and those men treated them bad, left them for another women or whatever they did but the point is they are tired of them and then they met a women who makes them feel comfortable again and so they start a relationship with her. are these women suddenly gay or bi or is it just the situation of life who put them in to it?:confused:

Internet Lover
Jan 7th, 2002, 12:58 PM
It's so cool! I love all the different opinions!! Yay!!! I just wanna add though and I think everyone's met at leat one person like this. Don't you think that that there are some straight people who you couldn't even imagine being gay and some gay people you couldn't even imagine being straight? I also think that for some straight people they are just waiting
that one gay person to experiement with. They may go back to being straight if they don't like it but it may help them come out too. It is complex like somebody already said. Heh-heh :)

Cersei
Jan 7th, 2002, 04:34 PM
i saw chasing amy.it's alot like this discussion actually

rightous
Jan 7th, 2002, 10:56 PM
I agree with Kitty I don't think anyone is 100% anything, I'm straight but u can never say never!!! but alas I have found a teacher who may teach how maybe the grass is greener!!!!lol

CanadianBoy21
Jan 8th, 2002, 01:36 AM
Okay, here is a scenerio:
straight guy, gay guy, straight girl, gay girl...


If the straight guy and the straight girl are in love, and the straight guy meets the gay guy, and he falls in love with the gay guy, and dumps the straight girl for him...then the straight girl falls in love with the gay guy(the originally gay guy), and he falls in love with her so much, that he turns straight, the the now straight guy turns the gay girl straight, because she really loves him... after the ex-gay guy is now straight, then now the gay guy(originally straight), falls back in love again with his ex-girl and turns straight,...............Everybody is straight...:confused:
lol

Candy946
Jan 8th, 2002, 01:42 AM
So is a gay/les/bi person naturally born like that, or is it because they choose to be.

Internet Lover
Jan 8th, 2002, 01:46 AM
Rightous just wondering and I wasn't sure how much you were joking (heh-heh) you said you "found a teacher". I wanna ask you though if you were waiting for a teacher OR did the teacher make gayness sound really cool or what not and you feel like trying it out? I just wanna know because it's so weird to me to hear straight guys wanting to try it out. It's cool don't get me wrong but when you get used to being around jokcs who just talk about girls and stuff all day I can't even imagine them saying what you just said rightous. :)

saki
Jan 8th, 2002, 03:48 PM
Labels just confuse the issue. It is possible for someone generally attracted to the opposite sex to fall in love with someone of the same sex and vice versa. If that happens, the person should just go with it and not worry too much about whether that makes them "gay" or "bisexual" or "straight but in love with a guy".

Zamboni
Jan 8th, 2002, 07:13 PM
Like a friend of mine once said: When you once fell in love with a girl, you shouldn't think she's the only one. You will love more girls in your life.
I think you can use that sentence for every kind of situation. I mean, just change 'girl' into 'boy' and you have another situation ;)

I think no-one is 100% straight, it's just the question if there will be someone in your life to show that to you.

thefreedesigner
Jan 8th, 2002, 07:17 PM
what sk said.

timmbo
Jan 8th, 2002, 07:24 PM
Why cant we just love who we want, not worry about labels and just have peace and harmony in our lives?

Ok back to the real world now..... I do agree that labels confuse things but you guys are very special people. Not many people in the world understand what love really means. Labels are created in order for people to grasp in subject and help them understand. We all put a label on something we totally dont understand. I do consider myself gay and I dont think that I could ever love a women the way that I have been in love with a boyfriend, but thats just me. I think that if you fall in love, no matter who it is, then go for coz this world today is harsh and if you are lucky enough to find love, dont let it go.

Internet Lover
Jan 9th, 2002, 01:59 AM
Yeah that's the bottom line timmbo. I've never been in love or anything yet (having a crush is like so not the same heh-heh) but I get the feeling it's hard to find so when you get the chance it shouldn't matter if you're the same sex or the opposite sex. :)

rightous
Jan 9th, 2002, 02:44 AM
Internet Lover I think that u shouldn't say no to anything without trying it I suppose, I don't think u can help who u fall in love with be they male or female but I haven't fallen in love with a guy as yet!!!!

The whole teacher thing was a joke!!!!lol I was refering to someone who said they would show me that my life is wasted being straight!!!!!lol But alas they haven't!!!

DutchieGirl
Jan 9th, 2002, 03:08 AM
Originally posted by Poe
i don't think you 'turn anyone gay'

I DO however think it's possible for a straight guy to fall for a gay guy if there is a very strong connection there.. he might fall in love with that one guy but that wouldn't mean he has been changed to a homosexual :D If you're biologically attracted to females nobody is going to change that \

That is exactly what I was goingto say, and I know an example of where it has happened! An Australian hockey player (I think Alyson Annan) is currently living in the Netherlands with Carole Thate. They are together. But, Alyson was married to a guy in Australia. They broke up, and Alyson turned to Carole because they were friends, and she needed someone to help her through the break-up of her marriage and they ended up falling in love. Now Alyson has said that she does not consider herself gay, she just likes Carole, but when she goes down the street, she does not check out girls, she still checks out guys...

so I totally agree with you Poe! But then again, I don't believe that you are ever 100% straight, or 100% gay as someone else said in here.

Internet Lover
Jan 9th, 2002, 04:27 AM
I understand what you are saying Sarah but I want to ask you though is there anybody you know personally who you would think like "there's no possible way they can ever be gay"? I know lotsa people like that especially at my school. They'd kill themselves before they would even go near anyone that's the same sex as them. I know lotsa people are neither 100% gay or 100% straight but there is still A LOT of people who are 100% straight. :)

-Sonic-
Jan 9th, 2002, 04:39 AM
I wish it was true in a way cos I have fancied so many straight men in my time...

DutchieGirl
Jan 9th, 2002, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by Internet Lover
I iuderstand what you are saying Sarah but I wnat to ask you though is there anybody you know personally who you would think like "there's no possible way they can ever be gay"? I know lotsa people like that especially at my school. They'd kill themselves before they would even go near anyone that's the same sex as them. I know lotsa people are neither 100% gay or 100% straight but there is still A LOT of people who are 100% straight. :)

I honestly have to say that of people my age, no I do not know anyone that I think would NEVER be gay. And besides, what I said above was that just because someone may fall in love with another of the same sex, it does NOT make them gay. See it depends on definitions. I mean I was chatting with a male friend, who admitted to me that he likes to watch guys dance. He finds it sexy. He said he;d never thought of going any further, but he considers that to be 10% gay... it's his definition...

being "gay" or "straight" means that you ONLY EVER love someone of the same sex (gay) or opposite sex (straight). And it means that you'd have no feelings for people of the opposite sex (if you are 100%gay), or the same sex (if you are 100% straight). I'm sure even some the people who you think would never go out with someone of the same sex have had some sort of feelings towards someone of the same sex, they just might not want to admit it. I mean it can still be a very taboo thing...I myself am careful (in real life) who I tell about my sexuality. On the internet to me it doesn't matter if everyone knows, coz it's not like I'm gonna meet too many people from here in real life. But some people may be scared to discuss their feelings.

I guess I shouldn't say it so absolutely, but I'll put it this way then" "Most people are neither 100% gay or 100% straight", there is a little bit of curiosity in most of us. ;)

But anyway...I really don't see what it matters who we sleep with, or who we love. :) I never even gave a name to my feelings until a boy asked me if I was gay. (I'm not, I'm bi). And that was at 20 years of age. So you see, again, it depends on labels and definitions...

Oasiatic
Jan 9th, 2002, 06:44 AM
Its not possible. A gay person cannot turn a straight person gay unless the person wasn't 100% heterosexual. He had to have some sort of homosexual tendencies. I can conceptualize the idea of a straight person having a really close relationship with a homosexual falling in love with them, but it wouldn't happen with everyone. Just that person. Does that make him gay? I mean he won't be attracted to other guys like a regular gay person would. He still would be naturally attracted to girls. And in my opinion, no one's a hundred percent heterosexual or homosexual.

Its like in the movies, when a married woman sees her next door neighbour showering and starts to have fantasies! Lmao. She's married but the idea of being with another woman turns her on. Oh that might mean she was bisexual eh?

TennFreak2000
Jan 9th, 2002, 07:35 AM
This is rather interesting.
I think it would not be possible to turn a straight person gay or vice versa.
However, if you were just to talk about the feeling of love itself...it can be a little different. The thing is, I am a straight female. And I have no desire to be gay or "try it out" or anything like that. But the only difference between what I would feel for a boyfriend and a really good friend, whether they be male or female, is sexual. For instance, with the boyfriend (if I currently had one), or with any guy whom i was attracted to, of course, there would be a desire to kiss him. Or something like that.
And with the boyfriend, let's say I was in love with him. I would not "love" my friends any less. But there would be nothing sexual there.
Does any of this make any sense? I fear I am rambling!:o

Zamboni
Jan 9th, 2002, 07:37 PM
Carole Thate??
That's news for me! I thought she was still married, didn't hear about her divorce (hockey ain't that big here ;)).

timmbo
Jan 9th, 2002, 07:50 PM
Ok guys I have a situation for ya. Last nite I went to visit a male friend that is str8 and I posed this question to him. We played basketball together in school and he is one of the butchest guys that I know. I ask him if he could ever fall for another guy. He said that he believes that it depened on the person. Being str8 he is not attracted to guys in general but if a certain guy that he liked offered then he would consider. Of course being who I am, I graciously offered any services he needed. lol-- just kidding.
He did tell me that he kinda had a crush on me at first and didnt understand it, and he told me last nite that he had nerver even kissed a guy before. He also said that he would like to me to the first. lol-- But I declined coz he is in a relationship with a girl and im not a cheater. So, there u go. Question answered. U dont have to be gay or str8, it just depends on the person and who u are attracted to physcially, mentally and emotionally.

Now answer me this. Why cant a nice, normal GAY guy want me? I get all these freaky situations and str8 boys wanting to experiment. Why cant a normal gay guy want me? lol

rightous
Jan 9th, 2002, 11:56 PM
I have to agree with what everyone has said it all depends on the person and if u r open enough to explore ur sexuality. I don't believe in Labellin and I think societies tend to do too much of it, we r who we r and no label is going to change that.

I'm straight but do I think I can love a guy for sure it all depends on that person, if I have the same interests and loves as them, why not but at present I have only found that with gals but I'm not denying that the opposite can happen!!!!

Mmm timmbo u should never wish u may get what u wanted!!!!lol

Internet Lover
Jan 10th, 2002, 01:38 AM
Rightous I wish more straight guys thought like you because there would be less teasing and cruel stuff by straight guys to gay guys like me that aren't like way masculine if you know what I mean. :o You say though that you're straight but I gotta ask since you've never been with a guy before, have you
thought about what's it like to kiss a guy and stuff? You sound like you're totally cool about it and that's great. I'd figure straight guys would be nervous or what not. :)

Internet Lover
Jan 19th, 2002, 11:18 AM
I'm bumping it back up because it's weird lately since like last week eventhough I'm a virgin I know I'm gay but since last week I've had this crush I guess on this girl and it totally weirds me out you know. I think she's so awesome but I'm totally shocked because i know I'm gay that I would totally get a crush kinda on a girl. I gotta say I like the feeling. :o :)

Celeste
Jan 19th, 2002, 05:07 PM
I agree with Randy, but I do have a gay male friend who once boasted to me that he could turn a straight man on the fence gay by making him watch "Valley of the Dolls." :o But I think being on the fence indicates the guy may not be totally straight to begin with. I have "known" my fair share of straight men and it seems pretty far fetched to me to change them, but maybe as Poe says, a close gay friend whom they really like...maybe, but most straight men I have known would almost never be friends with someone gay, in my opinion, most straight men are too uptight about sexuality to have a gay friend.

rightous
Jan 20th, 2002, 03:51 AM
Internet Lover I haven't been with a guy no, have I thought about it, yeah a few times but its not that I actively seek anything, but I guess I 'm open to it happening. I believe u can fall in love with a guy or a girl if they have everything u desire in a partner, its just some people are closed off to these feelings, I guess!!
lol @ Internet Fan my point proven!!!lol

TennisToriTerrificTwosome
Apr 29th, 2002, 02:35 AM
No way! :rolleyes: