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CHOCO
Dec 4th, 2002, 07:51 PM
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Jackson’s fans speak

Leave Michael Jackson alone!

That’s the angry cry of thousands of fans of the King of Pop, who are circulating an online petition, asking the media to stop attacking the nose-impaired, baby-dangling, once-hot singer. The Scoop decided against including a link to the site, due to the unseemly language from some of Jackson’s supporters, and the even worse language from the Jackson bashers. But below are some obscenity-free — though grammatically challenged — examples of messages left by the petition’s signers:

“I cannot beleive how the tabloids, media, late night hosts and just about anyone covering the news cannot seem to refrain from bashing Michael Jackson,” wrote petitioner Janine F. “The cold, caloused individuals do not have a heart, but instead have a water pump”
Fan Chus C. wrote: “Plese leave Michael alone, he is the best artist of the world , I think that is not important his private live the very important is his genius ant this is number one in this world. I love Michael for all my live.”
And, more succinctly, from Antonio J.: “Michael is the best person in the world. Leave it alone.”

disposablehero
Dec 4th, 2002, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by CHOCO
And, more succinctly, from Antonio J.: “Michael is the best person in the world. Leave it alone.”

Yes, yes. First out of 6 billion. Nelson Mandela is a chump.

Helen Lawson
Dec 4th, 2002, 07:59 PM
I think he is paying to get into the press and I think these "fans" are being paid by him to stir up attention.

G-Ha
Dec 4th, 2002, 08:09 PM
from Antonio J.: “Michael is the best person in the world. Leave it alone.”

Lol at Antonio, a fan, referring to Michael as an "it" in the above statement!

CHOCO
Dec 4th, 2002, 11:19 PM
I'm glad to see that Michael's fans are loyal and come to his defence.

LeonHart
Dec 4th, 2002, 11:28 PM
I heard Jackson's nose collapsed..is that true? LoL!

Celeste
Dec 5th, 2002, 12:32 AM
I read the tip of it is non-existent, it cannot support anything because of too much work, so there is some plastic tip that he glues on. Urban legend or fact, who knows. Does the man realize how freakish he looks (and acts)? It is a free country, there is nothing wrong with doing this to your face if it is what you want, but when your income depends on the public's views of you, you end up in the position he's in, a complete freak show with little earning potential. Also, his music has turned to shit.

niratti
Dec 5th, 2002, 01:16 AM
*sigh* and :rolleyes: for this thread

another MJ thread!!

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:01 AM
No he doesn't realize what a freak he is. he thinks he's normal, he's said that many times.

helen, believe me, he's not paying his fans to write in. There are really a lot of people who are absolutely obsessed with him. You're forgetting how famous he really is.

Scotso
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:06 AM
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OH MY GOD HE'S ROTTING!

Car Key Boi
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:15 AM
Micheal..............http://carkeyboi.com/tool.gif

Celeste
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:24 AM
He looks like something out of a Star Wars movie.

wongqks
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:31 AM
I feel sorry for him :sad:

I dun think it is right to judge a person by looks but surely he can't be happy to looks like that (maybe I am naive)

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:32 AM
I don't know if you should feel sorry for a child molestor who's never spent a day behind bars due to his wealth and fame.

wongqks
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:33 AM
oh i didn't know anything about him and his case, maybe you can educate me on that

Martian KC
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:38 AM
Apparently he's following apart as well.:o

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 02:38 AM
Michael Jackson likes little boys a little too much.

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 03:04 AM
a ton of fans. 30 year celebration thing that was on TV last september, whatever the hell it was, that drew a hell of a lot of viewers. Also, his last CD did debut at #1. So Michael's popularity has really only paled by comparison to what it used to be.

CHOCO
Dec 5th, 2002, 03:23 AM
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Fans of Michael Jackson (news) wait to catch a glimpse of Jackson as he leaves court, Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif. The 44-year-old entertainer was back in court for more testimony in a concert promoter's lawsuit that alleges the singer failed to follow through with two 1999 millennium concerts.


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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) looks at pictures on the judge's bench during a break in his testimony in a Santa Maria, California courtroom, December 4, 2002. Jackson, testifying in a $21 million lawsuit over canceled millennium concerts, explained that he relied on managers, agents, lawyers and accountants to handle the details of his business affairs while he focused on singing and dancing

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Michael Jackson (news) eats a candy during his testimony in court, Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif. The 44-year-old entertainer was back in court for more testimony in a concert promoter's lawsuit that alleges the singer failed to follow through with two 1999 millennium concerts


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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) asks for a pen during a break in his testimony in a Santa Maria, California courtroom, December 4, 2002. Jackson is involved in a $21 million breach-of-contract dispute alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts


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Michael Jackson stands in the witness stand in Santa Maria Superior Court in Santa Maria, Calif., Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002, during a $21 million lawsuit brought against him by promoter Marcel Avram for failing to appear at millenium concerts which were to take place in Australia and Hawaii Dec 31, 1999. Jackson says the promoter was the one who pulled the plug on the
shows, due to worries they might not make money

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Michael Jackson talks with a bailiff in Santa Maria Superior Court in Santa Maria, Calif., Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002, during a $21 million lawsuit brought against him by Marcel Avram for failing to appear at two millenium concerts which were to take place in Australia and Hawaii Dec 31, 1999. Jackson says the promoter was the one who pulled the plug on the shows, due to worries they might not make money


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Michael Jackson waves to spectators in Santa Maria Superior Court in Santa Maria, Calif., Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002, during a $21 million lawsuit brought against him by promoter Marcel Avram for failing to appear at millenium concerts which were to take place in Australia and Hawaii Dec 31, 1999. Jackson says the promoter was the one who pulled the plug on the shows, due to worries they might not make money


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Michael Jackson (news) looks at a piece of paper during his testimony in court Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif. The 44-year-old entertainer was back in court for more testimony in a concert promoter's lawsuit that alleges the singer failed to follow through with two 1999 millennium concerts


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Wearing a blue armband, he said is for luck, and hobbling on crutches Michael Jackson (news) arrives to court Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif. The 44-year-old entertainer was back in court for more testimony in a concert promoter's lawsuit that alleges the singer failed to follow through with two 1999 millennium concerts.

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Entertainer Michael Jackson (news) arrives outside the Santa Maria Superior Court, in Santa Maria, California December 3, 2002, for the continuation of his testimony in a trial in which he is accused of canceling concert appearances, costing the promoter several million dollars. Jackson is accused by German-based promoter Marcel Avram of breach of contract and fraud for allegedly backing out of two New Year's Eve 1999 shows

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 03:24 AM
choco, here's the real question. Why have you become WTA world's self-imposed newsman? Should I call you Tom Brokaw?

CHOCO
Dec 5th, 2002, 03:27 AM
hey King Lindsay - :wavey:


I just have a passion for news in general and information in particular.

Philbo
Dec 5th, 2002, 04:02 AM
Michael jackson is not a child molester, but its easier for people like King Lindsay to believe what they read in Womens Weekly...

The fact is, that Michael has HUNDREDS, or THOUSANDS of child visitors to his ranch every year...

The ONE thing about REAL child molesters, is thats its a sickness, and child molesters NEVER stop at one. They put themselves in positions wiht access to children, and then they prey on them.

So for ALL the thousands of kids that have stayed with Michael, for ONLY ONE person to accuse him of it, to me PROVES he is innocent...

The other thing about child molestors is that once ONE person accuses the attacker, the OHTHER victims get the courage to come froward...Its how it always goes...

so if Michael had touched any other child, you can bet your ass that the child would have told somoene once the story about the first kid was in the press...

The fact is the police strip searched Michael, seached his house high and low, and could NOT find enough evidence to lay charges!

It was one family who saw Michael as their ticket to wealth and the good life, and they knew that if they threw mud some would stick, and unfortunaely people like King Lindsay swallow the shit that that abhorrent family put out there...

Please explain why only one person has ever accused Michael?? Do you really beleive that if he is a 'molester who likes boys' that he only did it once??

you've got to be kidding...

Philbo
Dec 5th, 2002, 04:05 AM
and on his appearance, I just find it really sad..I cant think of any other word... Michaels self-image must be in such awful shape..

I think he looked hot around Thriller and should have stopped there..But I guess it was an addiction...

The music is whats important and songs like Billie Jean, Way you make me Feel, Man in the mirror will NEVER lose their appeal....

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 04:30 AM
Czechfan. If Michael was so bloody innocent, why did he settle with the boy's family for millions of dollars? And you say the police searched his house high and low for evidence, and stripped searched him? So what? What evidence could they have found? It was a molestation, not a bank robbery. Besides, the reason the entire thing was dropped was because Michael bought their silence.

Secondly, there's no rule that says child molestors don't stop at one. Also, who says Michael did stop at one? And who says he hasn't paid more families behind the scenes to shut them up? He certainly has the money and veil of secrecy which his private ranch provides. He's a sick, deranged individual.

King Satan
Dec 5th, 2002, 04:37 AM
But King Lindsay, no one has ever proved that he did molest any kids.

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 04:41 AM
Because he bought the silence of that boy, and probably others. did you miss that?

Crazy Canuck
Dec 5th, 2002, 04:49 AM
DId somebody not say a while ago, that when that boy turns 21 or whatever, he's allowed to speak publically about what happened?

And isn't that soon?

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 04:54 AM
I don't know when he turns 21.

Philbo
Dec 5th, 2002, 05:09 AM
"If Michael was so bloody innocent, why did he settle with the boy's family for millions of dollars?" - If I was Michael, and had endless millions, Id pay the money rather than have details of my private life and what I do scrutinized and aired in public..its nto like he will notice the money missing..but he would find it traumatic to go up in front of a court room and have to detail exactly what he and his child friends do in private - be it innocent or not innocent..Mihcale has always been extremely private...

"And you say the police searched his house high and low for evidence, and stripped searched him? So what? What evidence could they have found?

- The boy claimed to know all different details, like birth marks on Michaels body etc etc, things like that - Michael was strip searched to see if what the boy said added up - IT DIDNT!
- The boy also claimed that Michael took pictures with him - the police searched for that, guess what?? COULDNT FIND ANY....LOL@Bank robbery....

"Secondly, there's no rule that says child molestors don't stop at one" - No, no concrete rule, but ask any pyshologist that deals with molesters and they will agree that its EXTREMELY rare for a molester to be ABLE to stop at one, and with all the kids Michael has had access to, its inconceivable that he could only hurt one child if he did do that....

"Also, who says Michael did stop at one? And who says he hasn't paid more families behind the scenes to shut them up? - LOL, so this is where you get your information from is it?? your own goddam imagination....

"he is a sick, deranged individual".... Well coming from someone who uses 'Who Weekly' , New Idea and Womens Weekly as their bible, that accusation holds as much weight as air...

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 05:19 AM
LOL. I use "Who Weekly, New Idea, and Womens Weekly" as my bible? WHEN DID I EVER SAY THAT? LOL. I have never heard of any of those magazines for the record. Are you sure you aren't confusing me with you?

How is it my imagination to assume that if Michael could do it to one boy, then he could do it to others?

And you know, pictures are pretty easy to destroy/hide when you have millions of dollars and mansion.

Czechfan, nobody, but nobody pays millions of dollars to settle a case they are completely innocent of. No one. It's the act of a guilty man who wanted to avoid jail time. It's clear as day.

Not that anybody takes seriously what you have to say. You're just another Michael Jackson apologist.

Philbo
Dec 5th, 2002, 05:28 AM
"Czechfan, nobody, but nobody pays millions of dollars to settle a case they are completely innocent of. No one. It's the act of a guilty man who wanted to avoid jail time. It's clear as day"

LOL - You honestly beleive that people who are innocent never settle out of court to avoid a long, arduous tril where every little detail of their life is aired to the public?? What crap...

MOST lawsuit are settled out of court, and if you beleive everytime its settled out of court it automatically means guilty you are a fool.

keep reading your tabloid magazines, Ill keep listening to Michael and we'll both be happy :)

Philbo
Dec 5th, 2002, 05:30 AM
BTW - Avoided jailtime? The police could NOT press criminal charges due to lack of evidence (although he probably bought off the polics as well right??)..

It was civil trial where he settled out of court...

Facts are funny things arent they... Sort of get in the way of a good story?

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 05:39 AM
Again Czechfan, I don't read tabloids.

No INNOCENT person would ever settle out of court for millions like Michael did. If he was innocent, and if there was not a scrap of evidence to prove him guilty, he would go to trial and prove it. Why would he just pay the kid so he's shut up? Why would he give into extortion? He wouldn't. Look, if the boy's claims were totally baseless and amounted to nothing more than extortion, Michael's crack team of expensive lawyers would countersue the hell out of him. Obviously, he settled because it was his attorney's advice, because he was guilty. Anybody can see this.

I don't appreciate the way you are debating this with me. There's no need for insults, but you seem to be resorting to that. what's wrong? Did I hit a nerve, you pathetic little fanboy?

Philbo
Dec 5th, 2002, 05:55 AM
I dont see it King Lindsay...

Everybody knows Michael is weird, there is no denying that.. I beleive Michael wanted to avoid having all his dirty laundry aired in public, and by 'dirty laundry' I dont meed criminal acts of child molestation...

I mean weird habits, any old shit that the public would LOVE to latch onto and increase the whole backlash against him.

Personal insults?? Considering you feel comfortable calling someone a sick deranged individual based on the fact that he settled an ugly accusation out of court (which whether you like to admit or not is COMMON) you dont really have a leg to stand on to complain about personal insults...

CHOCO
Dec 5th, 2002, 06:03 AM
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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) enters a courtroom on crutches to testify in Santa Maria, California December 3, 2002. Jackson, recovering from a spider bite, was resuming testimony in a $21 million lawsuit over canceled millennium concerts.

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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) gets playful with the photographer during a break in his testimony in Santa Maria, California, December 3, 2002. Jackson is being sued for $21 million for breach of contract over two millennium concerts.


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Pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news) points at fans to direct his aides to gather fans items to autograph from inside his van as he leaves the court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. Jackson's return to the witness stand followed a two week absence from the trial during which he visited Germany and sparked worldwide outrage by dangling his infant son Prince Michael II from a fourth-floor hotel balcony


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As a Sheriff deputy stands guard, pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news) signs autographs inside his van as he leaves the court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. Jackson's return to the witness stand followed a two week absence from the trial during which he visited Germany and sparked worldwide outrage by dangling his infant son Prince Michael II from a fourth-floor hotel balcony.


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Pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news) leaves court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. Jackson's return to the witness stand followed a two week absence from the trial during which he visited Germany and sparked worldwide outrage by dangling his infant son Prince Michael II from a fourth-floor hotel balcony.


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Pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news) signs an autograph for an unidentified child from inside his van as he leaves court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. Jackson's return to the witness stand followed a two week absence from the trial during which he visited Germany and sparked worldwide outrage by dangling his infant son Prince Michael II from a fourth-floor hotel balcony



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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) waves inside the court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., during a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. Jackson's return to the witness stand followed a two week absence from the trial during which he visited Germany and sparked worldwide outrage by dangling his infant son Prince Michael II from a fourth-floor hotel balcony.


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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) flashes a peace sign to the photographer at the end of his testimony today in Santa Maria, California December 3, 2002. Superstar Michael Jackson turned up on crutches in a California courtroom on Tuesday after a close encounter with a spider. Jackson, whose bizarre appearance and baby-dangling antics have made headlines around the world for the past three weeks, was resuming testimony in a $21 million lawsuit over canceled millennium concerts


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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) leaves for lunch on crutches during his $21 million breach of contract trial in Santa Maria, California on December 3 2002


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Pop star Michael Jackson (news) departs the courthouse in Santa Maria, California after he resumed his testimony December 3, 2002 in a $21 million breach of contract lawsuit over canceled millennium concerts

CHOCO
Dec 5th, 2002, 06:15 AM
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Pop Star Michael Jackson (news) jokes with the photographer during a break in his testimony in Santa Maria, California, December 3, 2002. Superstar Michael Jackson turned up on crutches in a California courtroom on Tuesday after a close encounter with a spider. Jackson, whose bizarre appearance and baby-dangling antics have made headlines around the world for the past three weeks, was resuming testimony in a $21 million lawsuit over canceled millennium concerts


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Pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news) walks on crutches holding an umbrella as he arrives back to court following a recess, Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. Jackson's return to the witness stand followed a two-week absence from the trial during which he visited Germany and sparked worldwide outrage by dangling his infant son Prince Michael II from a fourth-floor hotel balcony.


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Michael Jackson looks over record albums that a court spectator brought Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, to Santa Maria Superior Court in Santa Maria, Calif., before proceedings in a $21 million breach-of-contract case. Promoter Marcel Avram is suing Jackson for backing out of performances in Sydney, Australia, and Honolulu on Dec. 31, 1999. The singer maintains that it was Avram who canceled over concerns the shows would not be profitable.

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Pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news) arrives at court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., to testify in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. Jackson's return to the witness stand followed a two week absence from the trial during which he visited Germany and sparked worldwide outrage by dangling his infant son Prince Michael II from a fourth-floor hotel balcony


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Pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news), left, asks Laurae Tyler, 11, for a pen to autograph her 'The Wiz' album as he arrives at court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts. As reporters shouted questions about an incident in Germany, Jackson autographed the album and looked up with an expression of apparent annoyance over the questioning.


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Pop entertainer Michael Jackson (news) looked up with an expression of apparent annoyance as reporters shout questions about the incident in Germany as he autographs the 'The Wiz' album of Laurae Tyler, 11, as he arrives to court Tuesday, Dec. 3, 2002, in Santa Maria, Calif., in a $21 million breach-of-contract lawsuit alleging he failed to appear for a pair of millennium concerts.

King Lindsay
Dec 5th, 2002, 06:21 AM
No, I call him a sick, deranged individual because he molested a little boy, because he destroyed his own face, because he lives on a mystical ranch with children, because he was involved in two farce marriages, because he changed his skin color from black to white, because he likes to dress as a woman, and on and on. Not because he settled a lawsuit.

Czechfan, I was talking about this conversation between you and I. You threw the first stone.

Anyway, I've said all I have to say about the actual reason Jackson settled that lawsuit. You obviously aren't able to see the truth, or provide a good explanation otherwise.

CHOCO
Dec 5th, 2002, 01:04 PM
:)

CHOCO
Dec 5th, 2002, 03:28 PM
Michael will be ok once this trial is over.

CHOCO
Dec 5th, 2002, 05:19 PM
:)

BCP
Dec 5th, 2002, 06:56 PM
I'm a BIG Michael Jackson fan. I think the last thing that he wants is to be left alone......do I smell an album in the pipeline?

Seriously though, who wouldn't be loopy?...abused as a child, fame from the age of 5- no childhood, extremely low self esteem, addiction to pain-killers, and no social skills....I'd dangle a baby over the bannister too!:p ;)

BCP
Dec 5th, 2002, 06:58 PM
BTW, for those people who are quick to point the finger at him as a sexual abuser of children, consider this:

Sexual predators are in the vast majority repeat offenders who are addicted to the power of abusing children. Considering how many children MJ has had at the ranch, isn't it strange that there has only been one allegation. Methinks someone's parents saw an opportunity to make a lot of money, and took it..............

BCP
Dec 5th, 2002, 07:02 PM
Sorry Czechfan, I just went back and read your posts re: child molestation allegations- you expressed it better than me.

Philbo
Dec 6th, 2002, 12:39 AM
Thanks BCP...

Car Key Boi
Dec 6th, 2002, 12:48 AM
Legal Boi has seen "the" tape and the allegations are true

also, there are still boxes of 'material' that are stored in a secret location somewhere in Cali

this material was seized by the cops when they raided Neverland

however, on it's own, it was felt that it was not sufficient to proceed with a successful prosecution

the State needed the boi, and the Jackson lawyers knew this, and so they bought out the boi's parents, game over.

this is the troof of the matter. i swear on it

harloo
Dec 6th, 2002, 01:07 AM
Sorry Micheal fans, as a former big fan of his I am just tired of all this drama surrounding Micheal. I still don't believe the child molestation allegations, but this year alone he has spiraled down. First, marrying Lisa Marie, then having test tube babies with Debbie Row. Enlisting a porn peddler to direct his video, calling Tommy Motolla the devil, the scariest face on earth, the dangling baby, and now he's been bitten by a spider is too much for me.

I just hope Micheal gets some help, he really needs someone to help him with his self image. It's sad to see him like this. I always was a big fan of his, and bought all his previous albums including his new one. However this is just sad.
:sad:

CHOCO
Dec 6th, 2002, 01:56 AM
harloo - I agree with you. I think Michael is a sad tragic figure. But in the final analysis, it's his life and he has to live it and only is accountable to himself.

Philbo
Dec 6th, 2002, 02:50 AM
harloo - Good post.. Like most Michael fans, I dont think he is perfect, I think he has some serious mental issues that he needs to sort out before its too late..

But I just dont believe he is a child molestor, and because car key boi 'swears' on it, means fuck all to me..no offence..

Dawn Marie
Dec 6th, 2002, 03:48 AM
Well I like Michael's music and I think he did abused that little boy. I think he's a pediphile man who targets young boys. I think he has some serious issues. He hangs with just too many kids. A clear sign of pediphila. Lisa is a nutcase, I think she knows all about Michael, but she's in the same cirlce and helped him cover it up. By the way Liz Taylor is a nutcase as well. One doesn't pay anyone millions of dollars of hush money if they are innocent. I truely don't know the truth, but I think he did do something with that boy.

Philbo
Dec 6th, 2002, 04:43 AM
its funny how all theese parents that people like Kind Lindsay think have been 'paid to shut up' keep quiet...

If Michael has abused so many of the kids at his ranch, dont you think that ONE family out of the (doezens, hundreds??) of children he has alledgedly abused would want him to go to jail..to be punished??

I can understand one family taking the money and running, but if Michal has also paid other families, dont you think that one of them would want to prevent it happening to other children?

Do you really think that there are multiple families out there, just sitting back KNOWING what Michael is doing??

If I was a parent of an abused child, I know that preventing it from happening to toehr families would be my highest priority...not how many million can I get?

If you have been abused, you are able to get damages as well as punishing the offendor...It jsut isnt plausible that there are a whole load of fmilies out thee who have been paid to shut up without doing anything about it...

yoyo
Dec 6th, 2002, 04:50 AM
Why no media has been reporting so much about his disease "VITILIGO" (progressive loss of the skin pigment melanin) ? Is it just because the truth does not sell paper ?

wuneyej
Dec 6th, 2002, 04:51 AM
Ahh...the perfect thread to post this link. It's a fun game I think most of you will get a real kick out of. I scored poorly because I was forced to use a touchpad. I think I only scored 13 points. Play a game then post your score.

Michael Jackson Game (http://www.canal96.net/juegos/index.php?juego=jacksonbaby&ancho=600&alto=400)

anton
Dec 6th, 2002, 07:10 AM
I like Human Nature the best I think of his songs. Fav vido is Thriller.

It's a shame how many people are jealous of him. Record your own CD and see how much it sells.

King Lindsay
Dec 6th, 2002, 08:16 AM
There's no proof that Michael has that disease.

Czechfan, why don't you drop it? I've said all I want to. I know that it's clear to anybody who isn't biased by their appreciation for his music that he is a child molestor. Get over it.

Dawn Marie
Dec 6th, 2002, 09:00 AM
I also think Gloria Alright or whatever her name is needs to quit it. Michael Jackson did not do anything on purpose to harm the baby when he CARELESSLY hung him over the bannister. Many parents do stupid things sometimes, but I don't think he should be crucified for that act. The baby wasn't harmed. And look the man was harassed by a mob, he really was only being nice to his fans and was a bit caught up. So many parents have done things to put their kids in harms way, and you know I really think she is on some ramapge toward him because she is biased. I think she feels he is a molester and is targeting him cause of her own opinions. I think he is as well, but I am a mere person, where as Alright has clout and media. I think she is misusing her public clout to incriminate someone due to her own ego, biased ego.

She can work on more important issues with her time. Gloria girl if you truely love the kids then SHUT UP and take on a case. God knows their are like 3,ooo a day.

Car Key Boi
Dec 6th, 2002, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by Czechfan
and because car key boi 'swears' on it, means fuck all to me..no offence..

nothing offends the Car Key Boi :)

troof!

anton
Dec 6th, 2002, 10:44 AM
:rolleyes: MJ was not convicted of anything. Calling him a child whatever is just your opinion. It does not make it a fact.

CHOCO
Dec 6th, 2002, 02:39 PM
anton - good point.

CHOCO
Dec 6th, 2002, 03:34 PM
:)

victory1
Dec 6th, 2002, 04:41 PM
Czechfan I completely agree with you! I was shock when I heard the news about the allege child molestation, and of course I believed it because I think Michael is weird (to my shame). When no other children came foward I knew the little boy family was lying, Michael been around a lot of children, some of them where famous American child stars (Webster, Macauly Culkin, etc..). I know if I was a parent and Michael touch my child I would see him through hell and back! My father is a lawyer and he said the easiest thing Michael could have done is settle out of court because there are people out there who would have believed the little boy in a civil case not because of any guilt on Michael's part but for the sole reason that he is weird.

BCP
Dec 6th, 2002, 05:32 PM
Going back to my original post, even though I'm a big fan, I'm not blind. Everyone can see that he's loopy. Instead of picking on him, and the way he looks, let's be a bit more empathetic and understanding. In the case of his bizarre behaviour, I think that some of it is deliberate to keep himself in the headlines, and to some extent to perpetuate his reputation as being an eccentric... it has sure got a lot of people talking through the numerous
threads about him in NT!

G-Ha
Dec 6th, 2002, 07:22 PM
I don't think any of us are in a position to say definitively whether or not Michael molested that boy...obviously someone is lying and only Michael and the boy know the truth. However, as others have mentioned, it is a bit odd that no other boys or families have come forward with accusations. And at any rate, Michael was never convicted of the crime and settling out of court does not automatically infer guilt.

But even before the child molestation accusations, I questioned why the parents were sending their young children to his ranch in the first place. I understand he adores children, but what parent in his/her right mind sends their young child to a grown man's home for "play dates" and "sleep overs"?! In many cases, the parents had little, if any contact, with Jackson himself, so in essence they were sending their children to a strange (and I do mean strange) man's house alone. If he were some random nut job, NO parent would consider leaving thier children alone with him, but because he's a famous nut job, they don't even hesitate.

I've also heard that Michael allegedly suffers from that skin ailment that results in patches of discoloration, but that disease doesn't require one to whiten the entire body, and certainly doens't explain his nose and chin, and the numerous other cosmetic procedures he's had.

King Lindsay
Dec 6th, 2002, 07:49 PM
I think it's been widely accepted that Michaels' been bleaching his skin white, he doesn't suffer from that disease.

But once again, I'll bring this up for you. Michael Jackson has the money and power to hire the best lawyers in the world. When he was accused of being a child molestor, don't you think that if the boy's claims were really that baseless, and if Michael was really so innocent, Michael's lawyers would've countersued the hell out of the family for extortion and slander?? i certainly do. Instead, he paid them off, no doubt on his lawyers' advice. Doesn't sound like an innocent man to me.

BCP
Dec 6th, 2002, 09:53 PM
I don't think Michael would be very successful in a civil suit for slander if he is convicted in a criminal court for child molestation....

King Lindsay
Dec 6th, 2002, 11:18 PM
You've missed the point. I'm saying if the boy's claims were so baseless, irresponsible and false, then Michael's lawyers would've turned around and countersued for extortion and slander. That they didn't, but instead advised him to pay millions of dollars in hush money should tell you who was in the wrong.

yoyo
Dec 7th, 2002, 02:05 AM
If there is a proof that he has whiten his skin like that, one must say he is severely and mentally sick !

CHOCO
Dec 7th, 2002, 03:51 AM
With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
For the story behind the story...

Wednesday, Dec. 4, 2002
Wacko Jacko to Gloria Allred: 'Go to Hell'

Former pop star Michael Jackson is making it clear he doesn't appreciate the scrutiny he's been under since dangling one of his alleged children from the balcony of a Berlin hotel.

Gloria Allred, a prominent lefty attorney in La-La Land, last week asked California's Department of Child Protective Services to investigate whether Jackson's three kiddies are in danger.

"Ahhh, tell her to go to hell," Jackson said Tuesday when a reporter asked him about Allred's action.

Allred says she's just concerned about the children. "That's a real baby," she noted. "That's not a Cabbage Patch doll."

Her response today to Jacko's response: "This isn't going to take the controversy down a notch. It's only going to heat it up."

harloo
Dec 7th, 2002, 03:51 AM
To be honest in the child molestation allegations Micheal was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. No matter what he did people would of still thought he was a child molester. People have speculated about his sexuality and have been calling him a pedophile for a long time. Even if he had sued the boy and his parents for slander it would of been a media frenzy and field day. And even if they would of said that he was wronfully accused people would of said the same things about him.

IMO, it's his fault for having sleep overs with children. A grown ass man shouldn't lay up with kids. LMAO. And where were the parents?

However, I will say that the reason I don't believe the allegations is because none of this shit is adding up right. If the LAPD came and did a search of his body and house and didn't find anything then where is the evidence? Everybody who even worked with Micheal, the maids, the butlers, and whomever else was on every tabloid t.v. show talking about what he did, but all of them had different stories. It was a big lie because they wanted to get PAID. They interviewed countless familes and child stars who were around Michael and they all said that nothing like that ever happened.

I feel the father of the young boy was out for a pay day and he got what he wanted. He got millions of dollars, and sold his son's soul. NONE of us knows what happened really, but I do know that any family who cares about their kid would never do what this father did. Take the money and run. White trash IMO.

Micheal better get a grip on reality and darken his face, and realize that the same media who made him the "King OF Pop" will eat him alive and make him the "King Of Flop". Micheal needs to get back in touch with who he is, this stuff he's doing now is making him look silly.

anton
Dec 7th, 2002, 12:56 PM
harloo, I dont think Michael should "darken his face." He has had enough surgeries. A good CD would be great. Remember he was "wierd" when his CD were at the top. I think his music just needs to improve and go back to being "cutting edge" and not recycled beats.

BCP
Dec 7th, 2002, 04:07 PM
Harloo answered it well. To me, it's a question of opportunity cost. People who are going to believe that he is guilty won't change their minds anyway, so does he really want to go through a trial which may last a very long time, and to have his private life, and the risk of further baseless allegations being made.

What say if someone said during the trial that Michael likes to sleep hanging upside down in an air chamber between his giraffe, and his hippo. Even though it wouldn't be true, people just take it as fact, because someone said it out loud.......

Harloo, I agree with everything you said in your post. I wish Michael would just get back to basics, go back to Qunicy Jones, and come up with an album which is all about the music.........