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ECB043
Dec 30th, 2012, 09:19 AM
I have just been watching the match between graf vs sanchez where graf won 60 62 at the aus open 1994. With his form and new racquet would she have beaten seles of 1993 in australia.

CeartGoLeor
Apr 6th, 2014, 08:37 PM
I stumbled across this seeing if anyone else had speculated on the what ifs of a Seles-Graf clashin Australia 94. I think it had the potential to be the greatest match of their entire rivalry. It stands out for me as the match that would have had the most promise if not for what that psycho did to poor Monica.


Monica was the queen of Rebound Ace. She won 4 Australian Opens in a row that she competed in. By the time she lost to Hingis in 99 she was no longer the player she once was. She outplayed Steffi in the the 93 final with some amazing tennis. As hard as it is to say definitively what if, it's extremely unlikely that a healthy Seles wouldn't have made the final in 94 also.

But Steffi in Australia 94 was in much better form than 12 months previously. Probably the best she ever played on Rebound Ace. While Monica was clearly the better player in the 93 final, it still went to 3 sets and there wasn't so massive a gap in the second set in particular that a future Graf win would have been a shock.

Steffi in the 94 final was play extrordinary tennis. 94 was probably Arantxa's best year on the tour and was often a problematic opponent for Graf. But she utterly demolished her here. Steffi was playing close to flawlessly that day. I think she would have beaten even Seles that day. But Steffi is my all-time favourite player so that could be colouring my view.

liuxuan
Apr 6th, 2014, 09:44 PM
steffi in 94 - peak tennis!

Smitten
Apr 6th, 2014, 10:58 PM
Seles would kill her.

Sammo
Apr 6th, 2014, 11:38 PM
All real champions killed Sanchez Vicario when they were playing well

faboozadoo15
Apr 7th, 2014, 12:13 AM
Seles would have gotten the best of her again.

superstition
Apr 7th, 2014, 12:15 AM
Seles would have gotten the best of her again.

yep

Sarindipity
Apr 7th, 2014, 12:22 AM
Seles would have also won that easily if she had faced ASV in the final.

Rollo
Apr 7th, 2014, 02:46 AM
Of course nobody knows.

What we do know is that the Aussie Open was probably the most favorable surface for Seles to play Graf on. The ball sat up nice and high for Monica to whack away at and minimized Steffi's slice.

Beyond that Steffi could beat anyone on any surface on any given day.

Too bad we never got to see it.

Smitten
Apr 7th, 2014, 03:28 AM
All real champions killed Sanchez Vicario when they were playing well

Arantxa is a GOAT. She's so good.

Londoner
Apr 7th, 2014, 08:45 AM
Of course nobody knows.

What we do know is that the Aussie Open was probably the most favorable surface for Seles to play Graf on. The ball sat up nice and high for Monica to whack away at and minimized Steffi's slice.

Beyond that Steffi could beat anyone on any surface on any given day.

Too bad we never got to see it.

This.

calico_101
Apr 7th, 2014, 08:59 AM
That final was played on a cool day which would favoured Graf I think. She seemed to struggle with the in Australia. Playing as she did, she would have beaten Seles in straight sets. The only caveat is would she have played so well with Seles on the other side of the court instead of Sanchez?

Ana'sProcess
Apr 7th, 2014, 09:10 AM
Seles because she would've win AO 1994 as well.

CeartGoLeor
Apr 8th, 2014, 11:25 AM
Some players are a difficult match-up for others. Novotna for example was a tricky opponent for Seles, while she was utterly dominated by Graf. Sanchez Vicario was a tricky match-up for Graf a lot of the time while Seles utterly dominated her. I agree that Seles would have beaten Sanchez Vicario in a 94 final. But for Steffi to trounce Arantxa so completely, she had to in the zone.
Most times Seles would have had the advantage against Graf on Rebound Ace. But the gap wasn't massive. Monica played great tennis in Australia. But the 94 final was one of the strongest performances of Graf's career, in another league to how she played in 93. It's the best she ever played on Rebound Ace.

She wouldn't have dominated Seles with the same ease. And it's possible that Seles could have won a tough match, but no player in tennis history could have "killed" her that day. One of the greatest of all-time at her very best. In that form, she would have beaten even Monica.

Sam L
Apr 8th, 2014, 11:37 AM
Graf never beat Monica on rebound ace. Not when Monica was dominating at her peak, nor when she was a shadow of her former self.

Seles in two.

Joseosu19
Apr 9th, 2014, 01:30 AM
All real champions killed Sanchez Vicario when they were playing well

Don't speak on topics you don't know about.



As for the question---

Steffi played "in the zone" in Australia that year...for sure! She had never played that well before. Arantxa did not play well in the finals, but she also did not play overly poorly. Really, you never got a feeling for how Arantxa was playing because the match was over so quickly.

Steffi's injuries caught up to her in 94, but I think in Australia she was set to make a statement. The media was consistently dogging her about how she was winning without Monica, and how weak the tour was. Ironically, they cried all about Steffi's dominance, and then she would not win the next four slams.

To whoever said that Arantxa would have been dismissed by Monica in 94 too, I say correct. But as someone previously mentioned, Monica was a terrible match-up for Aranxta, but ASV's game was able to pester Graf.

Ultimately, I think Monica's control over the slams (sans Wimbledon) would have ended somewhere...I'd say the 94 Aus Open would have been a 50/50 toss-up.

peachofalob
Apr 9th, 2014, 02:29 AM
Arantxa is a GOAT. She's so good.

Sánchez Vicario LOOKED LIKE a goat - not the same thing.

Qrystyna
Apr 9th, 2014, 04:05 AM
Seles would have routined Graf in straights. Enough said.