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Marcell
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:03 PM
Injured Sharapova out of Korea exhibition

Agence-France Presse

Maria Sharapova has suffered a pre-season injury scare with a neck injury forcing the world number two to withdraw from a planned exhibition match in South Korea against Caroline Wozniacki.

The Russian star had been due to face the Dane on Friday in Seoul but she wrote on her Facebook page that she has been ordered to rest before heading for Australia where she is due to start her season in Brisbane next week.

"For everyone in Korea, I'm sorry I had to withdraw from my exhibition match. I woke up the other day with a neck pain and after doing a few tests, the doctor wants me to take the next few days without any playing," the French Open champion wrote.

"So that leaves me to say I'm sorry not to be there in Seoul and play in front of my fans. I will make it up to you soon."


http://nz.sports.yahoo.com/news/injured-sharapova-korea-exhibition-165910627.html

dsanders06
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:06 PM
:scared:

Stonerpova
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:07 PM
:facepalm:

JarkaFish
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sharapova injured. Serena's toes misbehaving. Looks like an easy slam win for Azarenka to me.

:oh:

Natural Joe
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters
Word from Sharapova camp on her collarbone injury re playing Brisbane: 'She will be fine'

LightWarrior
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:13 PM
"For everyone in Korea, I'm sorry I had to withdraw"
So apparently she thinks she's God...

Gaby Gasparyan
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Mayb, most likely, perhaps....just the way Maria was laying in bed? And she is just being sensible and taking precautions.

I sometimes fall asleep with my ipod still on and I awakw and have been lying on the ear-piece

L'Enfant Sauvage
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:18 PM
Get well soon :shrug:

Sammo
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Too much of this Maria?

http://pilateslogic.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Reaganflexible.gif

Fighterpova
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:20 PM
:unsure:

Stonerpova
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:22 PM
"For everyone in Korea, I'm sorry I had to withdraw"
So apparently she thinks she's God...

Totally.

Jimmie48
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:25 PM
"For everyone in Korea, I'm sorry I had to withdraw from my exhibition match."



First footage from Korea is in...how is this poor country supposed to recover from this?? :hysteric:

tZsVP2WoE9E

Kuzzy24
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:26 PM
She's fine, just didn't want to play the exhibition.
Save Wozniacki from embarrassment .

sweetadri06
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:28 PM
Hopefully she'll be ok and its just precaution.

Shivank17
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:30 PM
Guess and hope that its just a late realization that she had wrongly scheduled an exo 3 days before the season begins.

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JoPova
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:30 PM
Get well soon Maria! :hysteric:

Mistress of Evil
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:43 PM
First footage from Korea is in...how is this poor country supposed to recover from this?? :hysteric:

tZsVP2WoE9E

http://24.media.tumblr.com/6a68bf28c0c93574ccafdbd832faff00/tumblr_mfdnnrmyhL1s102i1o4_250.gif

You ignorant fool. Obviously, you have no idea but surprisingly enough for you there are two countries named Korea - North & South. Sharapova was supposed to play an exhibition match in Seoul - the capital of South Korea. The footage you have provided has nothing to do with that country and reeks of disgusting ignorance.

Jimmie48
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:48 PM
You ignorant fool. Obviously, you have no idea but surprisingly enough for you there are two countries named Korea - North & South. Sharapova was supposed to play an exhibition match in Seoul - the capital of South Korea. The footage you have provided has nothing to do with that country and reeks of disgusting ignorance.

Really? There's two Koreas? You don't say...must have escaped me when I went there...thanks a lot for educating me. :rolleyes: :facepalm:

ReboundAce
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:54 PM
Sharapova ...whuuut :eek: Oh come on, what were you doing Maria ? Get well soon :sad:

SAISAI-GOAT
Dec 26th, 2012, 06:59 PM
so who is going to replace her in Korea :shrug:

bandabou
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:04 PM
Well, well...and the whole Mashaclan was joking about Serena maybe not showing up for Brisbane. :lol:

Get well soon, Masha.

WowWow
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:05 PM
She'll be fine...

Jorn
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:21 PM
so who is going to replace her in Korea :shrug:
Match is cancelled.

tennisbum79
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:31 PM
Is it just me or there has been way too many exhos this year?

These players complain about how heavy thir schedule is, and they get a window "well deserved downtime".
And what do they do with it? They overload it with a bunch of exhos appearences.

Cosmic Voices
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:33 PM
Why are so many people worried? If you take into account flying all the way to Korea - then back to train - to Australia, then ofc its a wise decision to pull out. Pretty sure she wouldn't play Brisbane if she was deadly injured, some of us are such hypochondriacs :lol:

Gaby Gasparyan
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:37 PM
Is it just me or there has been way too many exhos this year?

These players complain about how heavy thir schedule is, and they get a window "well deserved downtime".
And what do they do with it? They overload it with a bunch of exhos appearences.

They probably get bored sitting around the house watching tv and reading TF. So they may as well go play and get paid X-amount of $$$$$$$

It's just like on here, we are posting when we could be watching tv, or reading a book, or outside playing tennis(I can't because there's heavy rain and the only court is outside)

There's lots of exhos we never even hear about

heavyhorse
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:41 PM
Totally.

:lol:

dsanders06
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:46 PM
Really? There's two Koreas? You don't say...must have escaped me when I went there...thanks a lot for educating me. :rolleyes: :facepalm:

So then why did you post that vid? It would be no different to me ignorantly lumping Germans and Austrians into one bracket and assuming both were the same country/same people.....and I'm sure you wouldn't like that.

Royals.
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:48 PM
Is it just me or there has been way too many exhos this year?

These players complain about how heavy thir schedule is, and they get a window "well deserved downtime".
And what do they do with it? They overload it with a bunch of exhos appearences.

Money, money, money in a rich mans world. :bounce:

Royals.
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:49 PM
Get well soon Maria... i just hope this inconsistency doesn't start again..

Royals.
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:50 PM
so who is going to replace her in Korea :shrug:

She'll play with Rory. :lol::lol:

heavyhorse
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:52 PM
She'll play with Rory. :lol::lol:

And she'll probably still lose.

Mr.Sharapova
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:53 PM
Oh Crap. Hopefully the whole injury thing is not that serious :sobbing:.

Trickle
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Maria just taking a page out of Serena's book. :lol:
http://sitelife.runnersworld.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/9/4/191969cb-104d-41a8-a4d0-60056407c4c6.Medium.jpg

Vincey!
Dec 26th, 2012, 07:58 PM
I think she'll be okay if they think she'll be fine for brisbane. Hopefully nothing is hidden behind that I doubt she,d play brisbane if she had any fear it would get worse so we'll see in Brisbane :P

tennisbum79
Dec 26th, 2012, 08:13 PM
They probably get bored sitting around the house watching tv and reading TF. So they may as well go play and get paid X-amount of $$$$$$$
But the point of the downtime was to get a rest after a long season, get recharged and be fresh for the new season.
Whether they are bored or not, or some obscure organizers throwing money at them, they should remain professional and keep resting.

I would undersdatnd if the players appearing in these exhos are second tier players whose earnings during the reugular season was not that great.
There's lots of exhos we never even hear about
Yeah. I even doubt if some if exhos organizers have put a tennis tournament together before.
It is usually an advertisement stunt of thier product.

Sombrerero loco
Dec 26th, 2012, 08:34 PM
lol of course, "injured"

Kairi
Dec 26th, 2012, 08:39 PM
Oh dear...

Maria Croft
Dec 26th, 2012, 08:44 PM
I hope it was just because she didn't want to travel back and forth :p

ZeroSumGame
Dec 26th, 2012, 08:59 PM
Maria's learning Serena's gimmicks :lol: ...and Rafa is learning Roger's :lol:

Watch this quartet get very smart with their scheduling starting in 2013, just to stay fit, healthy & fresh for the big tourneys ...they don't need the money in exhos to risk aggravating minor existing injuries

Good for them :)

Dominic
Dec 27th, 2012, 01:39 AM
Maria :sobbing: please be ok!

dybbuk
Dec 27th, 2012, 02:10 AM
Omg dead at some of the same people who were rolling their eyes at people worrying about Serena having SURGERY in here crying and worrying about Maria when she specifically said it's fine and she'll be ok for Brisbane. LMAO TF never change.

Stonerpova
Dec 27th, 2012, 02:11 AM
Omg dead at some of the same people who were rolling their eyes at people worrying about Serena having SURGERY in here crying and worrying about Maria when she specifically said it's fine and she'll be ok for Brisbane. LMAO TF never change.

I wasn't one of those people, but Serena's withdrawals have been slightly more dubious in the past than Maria's. Just saying.

Nicolás89
Dec 27th, 2012, 02:12 AM
Neck pain? That's just stress. I get those a lot. LOL

Mary Cherry.
Dec 27th, 2012, 02:34 AM
Boycott Sugarpova.

Kairi
Dec 27th, 2012, 02:39 AM
Neck pain? That's just stress. I get those a lot. LOL

Well she was dragged by her thinning hair quite a bit this year. (Melbourne, Paris, IW, Madrid, Wimbledon(x2), New York, Beijing, Istanbul). :awww: get well soon Maria.

Novichok
Dec 27th, 2012, 03:50 AM
Well she was dragged by her thinning hair quite a bit this year. (Melbourne, Miami, IW, Madrid, Wimbledon(x2), New York, Beijing, Istanbul). :awww: get well soon Maria.

:haha: :haha: :haha:

SilverSlam
Dec 27th, 2012, 03:50 AM
Please, aint nobody legitimately concerned about this? This was like her using that stomach virus as an excuse almost a month after it happened to pull out of Cincy because she wanted to launch SugarPova in a different city...

Dominic
Dec 27th, 2012, 04:04 AM
Omg dead at some of the same people who were rolling their eyes at people worrying about Serena having SURGERY in here crying and worrying about Maria when she specifically said it's fine and she'll be ok for Brisbane. LMAO TF never change.

Hello.. it was Serena. Nothing believable comes out of this woman's mouth

Wiggly
Dec 27th, 2012, 05:05 AM
Real reason : poor tickets sales and she was asked to "withdraw".

Serenita
Dec 27th, 2012, 06:46 AM
First footage from Korea is in...how is this poor country supposed to recover from this?? :hysteric:

tZsVP2WoE9E

Such an ignorant post:rolleyes:
She'll be fine, just need to rest.

dany.p
Dec 27th, 2012, 07:02 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/6a68bf28c0c93574ccafdbd832faff00/tumblr_mfdnnrmyhL1s102i1o4_250.gif

You ignorant fool. Obviously, you have no idea but surprisingly enough for you there are two countries named Korea - North & South. Sharapova was supposed to play an exhibition match in Seoul - the capital of South Korea. The footage you have provided has nothing to do with that country and reeks of disgusting ignorance.

That is brand new information. Thankyou.

Pops Maellard
Dec 27th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Phew! At least it's not the shoulder again :).

petey_pan
Dec 27th, 2012, 07:09 AM
If I don't get to see her in Brisbane i'm going to :sad:

Halepsova
Dec 27th, 2012, 07:57 AM
How many times will she plan to fool these Asians around? :rolleyes:
I'm so sorry for those people who fall for her ugly appearance and stupid enough to buy tickets. She never cared for them.

Lachy
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:08 AM
How many times will she plan to fool these Asians around? :rolleyes:
I'm so sorry for those people who fall for her ugly appearance and stupid enough to buy tickets. She never cared for them.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mendu5vf1x1qbabvao1_250.gif

Cosmic Voices
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:48 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mendu5vf1x1qbabvao1_250.gif

your bank of Pitch Perfect gifs gets me everytime :haha:

JoPova
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:51 AM
How many times will she plan to fool these Asians around? :rolleyes:
I'm so sorry for those people who fall for her ugly appearance and stupid enough to buy tickets. She never cared for them.

You wish you could be as ugly as she is, uh? :lol:

M.P
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:56 AM
First footage from Korea is in...how is this poor country supposed to recover from this?? :hysteric:

tZsVP2WoE9E

don't know German are fool like this, need some education, Bro

vixter
Dec 27th, 2012, 01:33 PM
don't know German are fool like this, need some education, Bro

Need some humor, bro?

GoofyDuck
Dec 27th, 2012, 01:36 PM
First footage from Korea is in...how is this poor country supposed to recover from this?? :hysteric:

tZsVP2WoE9E

don't know German are fool like this, need some education, Bro

Need some humor, bro?

You and Jimmie need a better sense of humor, because that was just dumb.
North and South Korea are sooo different :spit:

vixter
Dec 27th, 2012, 01:37 PM
But the point of the downtime was to get a rest after a long season, get recharged and be fresh for the new season.
Whether they are bored or not, or some obscure organizers throwing money at them, they should remain professional and keep resting.

I would undersdatnd if the players appearing in these exhos are second tier players whose earnings during the reugular season was not that great.

Yeah. I even doubt if some if exhos organizers have put a tennis tournament together before.
It is usually an advertisement stunt of thier product.

I am totally with you on this. It would make much more sense to use this time only for resting and then for preparation for the new season. That would increase the chance for a successful and injury-free season. I imagine that if I was a top player, I would wanna use this time to just stay at home and be with family and friends. They are so rich anyway, certainly they don't need this money.

Well, Maria has cancelled now, so maybe she changed her priority after all.

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 27th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Well she was dragged by her thinning hair quite a bit this year. (Melbourne, Paris, IW, Madrid, Wimbledon(x2), New York, Beijing, Istanbul). :awww: get well soon Maria.

:haha: :haha: :haha: :bigcry: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :crying2: :sobbing: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

bandabou
Dec 27th, 2012, 03:23 PM
I wasn't one of those people, but Serena's withdrawals have been slightly more dubious in the past than Maria's. Just saying.

So Serena didn't have toe-surgery?! But Masha says she has neck injury and it's the gospel?! Hmmm...:lol:

bandabou
Dec 27th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Hello.. it was Serena. Nothing believable comes out of this woman's mouth

And Masha only speaks the truth?! :rolls: Mashatards...gotta love them. :lol:

Dominic
Dec 27th, 2012, 03:29 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :bigcry: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :crying2: :sobbing: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:

Yeah I know, I also find it hilarious what kind of pathetic bitter stuff some of the Rena fans come up with :lol:

tennisbum79
Dec 27th, 2012, 03:29 PM
And Masha only speaks the truth?! :rolls: Mashatards...gotta love them. :lol:
Respectfully disagree.
Dominic is motivated 100% by Serena's hatred, 0% by Maria's love.... just like some Romney voters:lol:

His use of Maria in the argument is just the tool of the day, it is opportunistic, despite Maria's name in his signature.

JN
Dec 27th, 2012, 04:40 PM
And Masha only speaks the truth?! :rolls: Mashatards...gotta love them. :lol:

:lol:

Serena's racquet consistently speaks a truth they can't deny. Let 'em seethe. :devil:

Jimmie48
Dec 27th, 2012, 04:43 PM
North and South Korea are sooo different :spit:

She just said "Korea", she didn't even specify ;)

iWill
Dec 27th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Well she was dragged by her thinning hair quite a bit this year. (Melbourne, Paris, IW, Madrid, Wimbledon(x2), New York, Beijing, Istanbul). :awww: get well soon Maria.

LMFAO! Thats horrible but I'm still laughing smh...:lol:

iWill
Dec 27th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Maria's learning Serena's gimmicks :lol: ...and Rafa is learning Roger's :lol:

Watch this quartet get very smart with their scheduling starting in 2013, just to stay fit, healthy & fresh for the big tourneys ...they don't need the money in exhos to risk aggravating minor existing injuries

Good for them :)

They all are taking considerable notice of the fact that killing yourself week in and out for tournaments doesn't match up very well with playing meaningless exhibitions and even other non-Grand slam tournaments. Smart move by the top players hope others take notice

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 27th, 2012, 04:57 PM
:lol:

Serena's racquet consistently speaks a truth they can't deny. Let 'em seethe. :devil:

:worship:

effedcamel
Dec 27th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Well she was dragged by her thinning hair quite a bit this year. (Melbourne, Paris, IW, Madrid, Wimbledon(x2), New York, Beijing, Istanbul). :awww: get well soon Maria.

I guess we can take solace in the fact that she doesn't have a weave of someone else's hair that can be snatched by Makarova? :o

doujyr
Dec 27th, 2012, 05:42 PM
Matt Cronin ‏@TennisReporters
Word from Sharapova camp on her collarbone injury re playing Brisbane: 'She will be fine'

well if cronin says that then Maria is probably out of action till roland garros :rolleyes:

Halepsova
Dec 27th, 2012, 06:49 PM
She just said "Korea", she didn't even specify ;)

I'm sure as hell the girl doesn't even know there are North and South Korea. PRK people should be pissed she didn't acknowledge them. :(

iWill
Dec 27th, 2012, 06:51 PM
I guess we can take solace in the fact that she doesn't have a weave of someone else's hair that can be snatched by Makarova? :o

Serena hasn't worn a weave in years....:rolleyes:

Dominic
Dec 27th, 2012, 07:19 PM
I guess we can take solace in the fact that she doesn't have a weave of someone else's hair that can be snatched by Makarova? :o

:spit: :haha:

bandabou
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:08 PM
:spit: :haha:

Funny, huh?! This is the real Dominic..good. So now no more pitty..:lol:
Should we start name-calling you too?!

JoPova
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:14 PM
Funny, huh?! This is the real Dominic..good. So now no more pitty..:lol:
Should we start name-calling you too?!

Oh please.. Dozens of Serena fans laugh at jokes about Maria in many threads every day. Why are you singling out Dominic for laughing at a similar joke about Serena?

Vincey!
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:15 PM
And Masha only speaks the truth?! :rolls: Mashatards...gotta love them. :lol:

Maria hasn't gotten many weird withdrawals in her career while in Serena's case it was often doubtful, it's all that they are meaning. Serena's toe surgery was surely not an emergency surgery so it was planned so yes it was weird that she planned it so it would affect one of her exos. Sharapova neck injury is probably the most random one she's ever had to withdraw from. Be a hater as you want, their injury and withdrawal history speak for themselves.

effedcamel
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:17 PM
Serena hasn't worn a weave in years....:rolleyes:

Nor is Maria's hair thinning. How about we all gloss over the details and just enjoy the jokes ;)

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:19 PM
Nor is Maria's hair thinning. How about we all gloss over the details and just enjoy the jokes ;)

true. it's already there. :unsure:

effedcamel
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:22 PM
true. it's already there. :unsure:

I guess both would be good spokespeople for regenerative hair solutions?

doomsday
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:23 PM
I guess we can take solace in the fact that she doesn't have a weave of someone else's hair that can be snatched by Makarova? :o

OMG. I'm dying. This thread is a mess :lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:28 PM
OMG. I'm dying. This thread is a mess :lol:
no you're not. :rolleyes: the original comment was waaaaaaaaaay funnier.

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:30 PM
I guess both would be good spokespeople for regenerative hair solutions?

please don't confuse Queen Lordrena with her sister. :o

doomsday
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:36 PM
no you're not. :rolleyes: the original comment was waaaaaaaaaay funnier.

What?:lol: That was harsh but funny I admit.

dsanders06
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:36 PM
I guess we can take solace in the fact that she doesn't have a weave of someone else's hair that can be snatched by Makarova? :o

:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :sobbing: :haha: :haha: :bigcry:

bandabou
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:39 PM
Maria hasn't gotten many weird withdrawals in her career while in Serena's case it was often doubtful, it's all that they are meaning. Serena's toe surgery was surely not an emergency surgery so it was planned so yes it was weird that she planned it so it would affect one of her exos. Sharapova neck injury is probably the most random one she's ever had to withdraw from. Be a hater as you want, their injury and withdrawal history speak for themselves.

Stomach virus, neck-injury, ...:lol:

So what was Serena to do? When would've been a good time according to the TF-doctor? :lol:

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 27th, 2012, 08:44 PM
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :sobbing: :haha: :haha: :bigcry:

now this...is hilarious. :happy:

Mistress of Evil
Dec 27th, 2012, 09:17 PM
Really? There's two Koreas? You don't say...must have escaped me when I went there...thanks a lot for educating me. :rolleyes: :facepalm:
Then why did you proceed to use a video which had nothing to do with the topic at hand? Though, the bigger issue is the content of the footage and how you are making fun of someone else's misery. I know that North Korea and the whole regime there are ridicule by most the world but clearly the death of that person affected the people we can see in the provided footage and it is beyond vile for you to use it.
She just said "Korea", she didn't even specify ;)

She was making a statement for the press conference; it was obviously directed to South Koreans.

I'm sure as hell the girl doesn't even know there are North and South Korea. PRK people should be pissed she didn't acknowledge them. :(
Funnily enough, she found her way to Seoul back in 2004 and even won the title without having any fiasco à la Jovanovski-Carlsbad gate.

I guess we can take solace in the fact that she doesn't have a weave of someone else's hair that can be snatched by Makarova? :o
Gosh, you are so witty.

Real reason : poor tickets sales and she was asked to "withdraw".

Thank you for sharing. It makes more sense now.

Dominic
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Serena hasn't worn a weave in years....:rolleyes:

There are very recent pics in the in the tennis players pics thread of her wearing a weave

JN
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:28 PM
There are very recent pics in the in the tennis players pics thread of her wearing a weave

They're wigs, you pressed SOB.

Vincey!
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:28 PM
Stomach virus, neck-injury, ...:lol:

So what was Serena to do? When would've been a good time according to the TF-doctor? :lol:

Seriously? Her stomach virus kept her out of competition for almost a month. SHE at least tried and was on site at the Rogers Cup giving interview and scheduling practice time but she couldn't practice at all. That virus was real since she caught it in London and affected loads of athletes. Google it :rolleyes: You're being a real idiot right now doubting that. As I said her neck injury is the most random one, but considering her past injury history, I don't doubt any second of what the doctor said. Sharapova is now being really careful with injuries and that's what she needs to too.

As for Serena's logical thing to do about her toe surgery would have been to do it right after the YEC. It's a bit stupid to have a surgery so close to the new season :shrug:

JN
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:32 PM
^ Nothing Serena does is stupid, her active-legend status proves it. :worship:

Vincey!
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:35 PM
^ Nothing Serena does is stupid, her active-legend status proves it. :worship:

lol her being a legend doesn't mean she doesn't do stupid stuff lol. Running on the beach or doing a photoshoot and going out wearing high heels while recovering from a serious knee surgery or ankle injuries is not really a smart move. Just saying ;)

dybbuk
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:40 PM
If only Serena had Vincey and Dominic as her personal doctors. They are experts on sports injuries and also experts on Serena's body. If she had them she could have avoided 75% of the injuries in her career and could have been close to Graf's Slam count by now. But alas, she is too stubborn and gets her advice from people who went to medical school. That was her greatest mistake. :tears:

Vincey!
Dec 27th, 2012, 10:58 PM
If only Serena had Vincey and Dominic as her personal doctors. They are experts on sports injuries and also experts on Serena's body. If she had them she could have avoided 75% of the injuries in her career and could have been close to Graf's Slam count by now. But alas, she is too stubborn and gets her advice from people who went to medical school. That was her greatest mistake. :tears:

LOL aren't you sweet. I'm not saying she'd avoid injury, but if you don't find that weird to have a routine not serious surgery on her toes 2 weeks before the beginning of the new season when she KNEW and her doctor knew that she would need it sooner or later then I'm worried about your sanity. Why wouldn't you do it right after the end of your last competitive tournament? I would have understood if it was to fulfill her exhibition commitments but clearly it was not the reason since she did withdraw from one anyway. Doing it after the YEC would have given her enough time to recover for sure for the beginning of the season, she'd have enough time to fully practice and get ready and she may have had time to fulfill some of her exo commitments if it would heal as fast as it seems to be. I mean it's the logical thing to do. Maybe you're not working with logic but I do. If you analyze all the elements you'd come up with the same results, more effective and less dangerous.

dybbuk
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:03 PM
LOL aren't you sweet. I'm not saying she'd avoid injury, but if you don't find that weird to have a routine not serious surgery on her toes 2 weeks before the beginning of the new season when she KNEW and her doctor knew that she would need it sooner or later then I'm worried about your sanity. Why wouldn't you do it right after the end of your last competitive tournament? I would have understood if it was to fulfill her exhibition commitments but clearly it was not the reason since she did withdraw from one anyway. Doing it after the YEC would have given her enough time to recover for sure for the beginning of the season, she'd have enough time to fully practice and get ready and she may have had time to fulfill some of her exo commitments if it would heal as fast as it seems to be. I mean it's the logical thing to do. Maybe you're not working with logic but I do. If you analyze all the elements you'd come up with the same results, more effective and less dangerous.

Or maybe you can admit you're not Serena, you're not her doctor and you're not anyone who actually has any information about this surgery. if you admit that, then maybe, just maybe, you can look past your dislike of Serena to admit that since you don't know ANYTHING about said surgery, and that there might be a perfectly good reason as to why it's scheduled when it is.
And then you can admit that people on a tennis board know nothing about the bodies and injuries of people they have never met, and as such shouldn't pretend they are experts and use "logic" to try and give concrete answers to things they literally know nothing about. But you won't. But I tried.

Jimmie48
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:07 PM
Then why did you proceed to use a video which had nothing to do with the topic at hand? Though, the bigger issue is the content of the footage and how you are making fun of someone else's misery. I know that North Korea and the whole regime there are ridicule by most the world but clearly the death of that person affected the people we can see in the provided footage and it is beyond vile for you to use it.



A lot of words for "I don't know how to take a joke." :rolleyes:

bandabou
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:08 PM
Seriously? Her stomach virus kept her out of competition for almost a month. SHE at least tried and was on site at the Rogers Cup giving interview and scheduling practice time but she couldn't practice at all. That virus was real since she caught it in London and affected loads of athletes. Google it :rolleyes: You're being a real idiot right now doubting that. As I said her neck injury is the most random one, but considering her past injury history, I don't doubt any second of what the doctor said. Sharapova is now being really careful with injuries and that's what she needs to too.

As for Serena's logical thing to do about her toe surgery would have been to do it right after the YEC. It's a bit stupid to have a surgery so close to the new season :shrug:

Oh the virus...she must have gotten it in London...was that before or after the final?! :lol:
So how did she get the neck-injury? Curious...

Really? You're one of those who just GO and have surgery?! :rolls: :spit: Maybe, just maybe...Serena just didn't want to have the surgery, was trying other ways..but when it wasn't working, she decided to have it done anyways?! :shrug:

It's better to miss some exhibition than REAL events. But of course..that logic was missed on you. :lol:

hablo
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:15 PM
It's better to miss some exhibition than REAL events. But of course..that logic was missed on you. :lol:

Seriously. What's the big fuss if Serena misses some exhibition? :tape:

These players whine that the season is too long then do these exhibitions. :help:

Anyhow, Sharpie used to miss Rogers Cup over bogus reasons in the past... She pulls the same stuff Serena does imo. :shrug:

Brad[le]y.
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:23 PM
A lot of words for "I don't know how to take a joke." :rolleyes:

:rolls: coming from the guy who was having a heart attack over the 'Caroline?' thread.

Jimmie48
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:27 PM
y.;22635820']:rolls: coming from the guy who was having a heart attack over the 'Caroline?' thread.

It's so cute...you just disagree with me for the sake of disagreeing with me :)

Vincey!
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Oh the virus...she must have gotten it in London...was that before or after the final?! :lol:
So how did she get the neck-injury? Curious...

Really? You're one of those who just GO and have surgery?! :rolls: :spit: Maybe, just maybe...Serena just didn't want to have the surgery, was trying other ways..but when it wasn't working, she decided to have it done anyways?! :shrug:

It's better to miss some exhibition than REAL events. But of course..that logic was missed on you. :lol:
Google it, look at articles, read stuffs and get out of Serena's ass for a minute and you'll see that Sharapova got her virus (or at least felt the effects of it) the morning before the final. She and many other atletes (not only tennis players) got stomach bugs just before, during or not long after the Olympics. I have no idea how she got that neck injury and I don't see your point about that?

It was obviously stated that Serena knew she was gonna get that surgery at some point that it was a recurrent problem for her :shrug:. If there was other way around she has had a long time thinking about it. You like to complain about Sharapova's fans finding "excuses" as you say but seriously you're really trying so hard right now to find excuses for Serena :shrug:.

Don't complain about one of the rare odd Sharapova's withdrawal (for a silly exo as you said) when your fav is the queen for those.



Anyhow, Sharpie used to miss Rogers Cup over bogus reasons in the past... She pulls the same stuff Serena does imo. :shrug:
This is not true, every time she missed the RC she had good reason, she even played the RC with her shoulder injury and had to withdraw after beating Domachowska.

Brad[le]y.
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:35 PM
It's so cute...you just disagree with me for the sake of disagreeing with me :)

No, you're just a hypocrite :lol:

JN
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:42 PM
Or maybe you can admit you're not Serena, you're not her doctor and you're not anyone who actually has any information about this surgery. if you admit that, then maybe, just maybe, you can look past your dislike of Serena to admit that since you don't know ANYTHING about said surgery, and that there might be a perfectly good reason as to why it's scheduled when it is.
And then you can admit that people on a tennis board know nothing about the bodies and injuries of people they have never met, and as such shouldn't pretend they are experts and use "logic" to try and give concrete answers to things they literally know nothing about. But you won't. But I tried.

:worship:

I'm gonna frame this and put it over the fireplace. :yeah:

hablo
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:43 PM
This is not true, every time she missed the RC she had good reason, she even played the RC with her shoulder injury and had to withdraw after beating Domachowska.

You're in denial. :help:

bandabou
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:50 PM
Google it, look at articles, read stuffs and get out of Serena's ass for a minute and you'll see that Sharapova got her virus (or at least felt the effects of it) the morning before the final. She and many other atletes (not only tennis players) got stomach bugs just before, during or not long after the Olympics. I have no idea how she got that neck injury and I don't see your point about that?

It was obviously stated that Serena knew she was gonna get that surgery at some point that it was a recurrent problem for her :shrug:. If there was other way around she has had a long time thinking about it. You like to complain about Sharapova's fans finding "excuses" as you say but seriously you're really trying so hard right now to find excuses for Serena :shrug:.

Don't complain about one of the rare odd Sharapova's withdrawal (for a silly exo as you said) when your fav is the queen for those.

:lol: No...I find it ironic that Mashatards were soooo quick to call Serena's surgery in question and then foops...their own favorite comes up with a 'neck injury'. :lol: And not only that, but pretending that the neck injury is more legit than Serena's toe injury and surgery. :rolls: Priceless.

Oh the shoulder injury again?! :spit: Really?! :lol:

Vincey!
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:52 PM
Or maybe you can admit you're not Serena, you're not her doctor and you're not anyone who actually has any information about this surgery. if you admit that, then maybe, just maybe, you can look past your dislike of Serena to admit that since you don't know ANYTHING about said surgery, and that there might be a perfectly good reason as to why it's scheduled when it is.
And then you can admit that people on a tennis board know nothing about the bodies and injuries of people they have never met, and as such shouldn't pretend they are experts and use "logic" to try and give concrete answers to things they literally know nothing about. But you won't. But I tried.

Oh and do YOU know anything about it? Before getting yourself offended you should maybe look for information yourself. I'm using logic with what has been released. Those are FACTS everyone knows, she got surgery on her toes, it's a minor surgery, that was a chronic injury. :shrug: Use your logic. You have a chronic injury, you know you're gonna need it to be fixed, you have 2 months off. Are you seriously going to wait 2 weeks before your first tournament to get it done? I'm sorry but you won't. NOW if there's any other variable that hasn't been released it's not my problem, I'm dealing with what everyone knows, and if you're so clever and you have other FACTS about Serena and that particular surgery, please lighten up my lantern.

Vincey!
Dec 27th, 2012, 11:56 PM
:lol: No...I find it ironic that Mashatards were soooo quick to call Serena's surgery in question and then foops...their own favorite comes up with a 'neck injury'. :lol: And not only that, but pretending that the neck injury is more legit than Serena's toe injury and surgery. :rolls: Priceless.

Oh the shoulder injury again?! :spit: Really?! :lol:

Hummm I never said that Serena's toe surgery wasn't legit. All I said was that Serena tards were overreacting about it and that she had a bad timing for it to be done. I'm not concerned about Sharapova's neck injury. I'm sure tired of your hypocrisy saying that all Sharapova's injuries are excuses and when it comes to Serena every little things are serious. Seriously if you're still doubting Sharapova's shoulder injury gravity you're seriously desperate to fight :shrug:. That's pathetic.

dybbuk
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:00 AM
Oh and do YOU know anything about it? Before getting yourself offended you should maybe look for information yourself. I'm using logic with what has been released. Those are FACTS everyone knows, she got surgery on her toes, it's a minor surgery, that was a chronic injury. :shrug: Use your logic. You have a chronic injury, you know you're gonna need it to be fixed, you have 2 months off. Are you seriously going to wait 2 weeks before your first tournament to get it done? I'm sorry but you won't. NOW if there's any other variable that hasn't been released it's not my problem, I'm dealing with what everyone knows, and if you're so clever and you have other FACTS about Serena and that particular surgery, please lighten up my lantern.

Yeah, I don't. And therein lies the difference between me and you. I'm not going to pretend that I am an expert on bodies and injuries of strangers, like you are. (If you notice, that unlike you with Serena, I've said nothing about Maria's injury. Because I don't know, and thus I will take her word for it like I would any other player). Because no matter how much you try to argue around it, the fact of the matter is and always will be that you know nothing. You're just going on scanty scraps of second or third-hand information you've picked up on then trying to paint a complete picture. But go on. I already said you won't admit to this. Continue on diagnosing Serena's injuries and explaining her surgeries.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:04 AM
Hummm I never said that Serena's toe surgery wasn't legit. All I said was that Serena tards were overreacting about it and that she had a bad timing for it to be done. I'm not concerned about Sharapova's neck injury. I'm sure tired of your hypocrisy saying that all Sharapova's injuries are excuses and when it comes to Serena every little things are serious. Seriously if you're still doubting Sharapova's shoulder injury gravity you're seriously desperate to fight :shrug:. That's pathetic.

And why is it considered a bad timing? Because she had to miss an exhibition? :confused:

Serena already arrived in Brisbane, for the start of her season..so I don't know what you're talking about. You're the one moaning that Serena acted somewhat shady, but now you're soo quick to defend Maria.

if you can doubt the toe-injury, then....surely the shoulder-injury can be questioned too, no?! :shrug:

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:20 AM
And why is it considered a bad timing? Because she had to miss an exhibition? :confused:

Serena already arrived in Brisbane, for the start of her season..so I don't know what you're talking about. You're the one moaning that Serena acted somewhat shady, but now you're soo quick to defend Maria.

if you can doubt the toe-injury, then....surely the shoulder-injury can be questioned too, no?! :shrug:

Again I don't DOUBT the toe-injury. It's a bad timing cuz she scheduled exos but knew she'd need a surgery eventually because of her CHRONIC injury. You need to read what I write more carefully. Never have I ever said that Serena toe's injury was doubtful. The timing is tho for the reason written in the 2nd sentence of this post. I'm defending Maria cuz of your hypocritical view of Serena's injuries being all legit even tho she has many weird ones but the first time Maria has a odd injury you're jumping on it and throwing hates at her. How can you even doubt Sharapova's shoulder injury? she was out for MONTHS and it took her years to recover, it cost her alot of things and nobody would want to fake that. You're such a lame hater to even doubt that. That's again really pathetic. AGAIN if you didn't understand me the first time I DON'T DOUBT Serena's toe injuries.







Just to be sure, I'll repeat. I don't doubt Serena's toe injury.

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:27 AM
Yeah, I don't. And therein lies the difference between me and you. I'm not going to pretend that I am an expert on bodies and injuries of strangers, like you are. (If you notice, that unlike you with Serena, I've said nothing about Maria's injury. Because I don't know, and thus I will take her word for it like I would any other player). Because no matter how much you try to argue around it, the fact of the matter is and always will be that you know nothing. You're just going on scanty scraps of second or third-hand information you've picked up on then trying to paint a complete picture. But go on. I already said you won't admit to this. Continue on diagnosing Serena's injuries and explaining her surgeries.

Humm have I ever explained her surgery? Have I ever claimed to be the expert of her body? NO! All I said is that she should have planned that surgery before :shrug:. Would be better for her, for her tennis. That's only logic, I mean seriously if you can't understand that having a longer time to recover is better than rushing it in 2 weeks when you can, I'm seriously sad for you. Simple logic. Can't you admit that having a possible full 2 months after a surgery is better than a couple weeks? Cuz that's all I'm saying :shrug:

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:45 AM
Again I don't DOUBT the toe-injury. It's a bad timing cuz she scheduled exos but knew she'd need a surgery eventually because of her CHRONIC injury. You need to read what I write more carefully. Never have I ever said that Serena toe's injury was doubtful. The timing is tho for the reason written in the 2nd sentence of this post. I'm defending Maria cuz of your hypocritical view of Serena's injuries being all legit even tho she has many weird ones but the first time Maria has a odd injury you're jumping on it and throwing hates at her. How can you even doubt Sharapova's shoulder injury? she was out for MONTHS and it took her years to recover, it cost her alot of things and nobody would want to fake that. You're such a lame hater to even doubt that. That's again really pathetic. AGAIN if you didn't understand me the first time I DON'T DOUBT Serena's toe injuries.







Just to be sure, I'll repeat. I don't doubt Serena's toe injury.

And YOU are NOT understanding why I'm finding it all ironic that Masha now has to miss an exho with an injury. Mashatards were reacting just like you're now: 'Oh typical Serena, surely another boogey injury, yada yada..' Maria would never miss an exho for no injury, etc, etc...well, what we got her? MashaPasha herself now has to miss an exho with an 'injury'.. :lol: Now all her fans are eating crow for laughing at Serena's injury and surgery.

Serena had other exhos too as you well know and she ALREADY missed those, so certainly the injury got worse as it went. She should've missed the first few exho's as well? Is that what you're saying?!

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:01 AM
And YOU are NOT understanding why I'm finding it all ironic that Masha now has to miss an exho with an injury. Mashatards were reacting just like you're now: 'Oh typical Serena, surely another boogey injury, yada yada..' Maria would never miss an exho for no injury, etc, etc...well, what we got her? MashaPasha herself now has to miss an exho with an 'injury'.. :lol: Now all her fans are eating crow for laughing at Serena's injury and surgery.

Serena had other exhos too as you well know and she ALREADY missed those, so certainly the injury got worse as it went. She should've missed the first few exho's as well? Is that what you're saying?!

Well first don't bring what others mashatards have said if you're replying to MY message cuz I've never said Serena's injury were fake. To answer your question, yes as I said the logical thing to do would have been to get her surgery 1st thing 1st after the YEC and see if she could play those exos after that. Think about it, let's say her surgery went well (as it seems to be right now since she's already in Brisbane) she could have played most of her exos since the YEC ended in last week of october and I believe her fist commitment was in Toronto on the 16th of November being 18 days (about the same time between her surgery and the Brisbane tournament). She may have been able to play ALL her exos, and if she wasn't ready she could always cancel those with not much problem and she could use those couple matches to know how the surgery is holding up. Better for her, better for her tennis and better for her fans.

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:50 AM
the fact of the matter is and always will be that you know nothing.

Well we do know what kind of crap Serena has come up with before.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 02:00 AM
Well first don't bring what others mashatards have said if you're replying to MY message cuz I've never said Serena's injury were fake. To answer your question, yes as I said the logical thing to do would have been to get her surgery 1st thing 1st after the YEC and see if she could play those exos after that. Think about it, let's say her surgery went well (as it seems to be right now since she's already in Brisbane) she could have played most of her exos since the YEC ended in last week of october and I believe her fist commitment was in Toronto on the 16th of November being 18 days (about the same time between her surgery and the Brisbane tournament). She may have been able to play ALL her exos, and if she wasn't ready she could always cancel those with not much problem and she could use those couple matches to know how the surgery is holding up. Better for her, better for her tennis and better for her fans.

To me I think Serena just didn't look forward to having the surgery, but after a time she just didn't have a choice and then decided to have it and be done with it. There really isn't a 'perfect' time to have a surgery.

Too much is being made of her missing an exho. The fans will get to see her in action at a REAL event next week, so..:shrug:

acetoace
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:03 AM
Humm have I ever explained her surgery? Have I ever claimed to be the expert of her body? NO! All I said is that she should have planned that surgery before :shrug:. Would be better for her, for her tennis. That's only logic, I mean seriously if you can't understand that having a longer time to recover is better than rushing it in 2 weeks when you can, I'm seriously sad for you. Simple logic. Can't you admit that having a possible full 2 months after a surgery is better than a couple weeks? Cuz that's all I'm saying :shrug:

When was it Serena appointed u her caretaker? What the f..K do u know? Like u were told, u know nothing as to the real facts and all the "logic shit" u spout on here are nothing but a personal opinion. I mean, do u really think u're wiser than Serena? U think u reason better than her and know her body more than her? Okay, she had the surgery few weeks b4 start of new season, so what? Have u given thought to the fact that based on medical advice, Serena most likely knew she would heal well enough before start of season.....considering how minor the surgery was? Serena is now in Brisbane....why would she do that if she isn't properly healed?

Maybe a "King Solomon" like u should mind your business & leave Serena alone. Serena has been taking care of her business long before your pathetic fave graduated from Boliterri Academy.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Amazing how nonentities think they're eminently qualified to educate Serena on how to manage her schedule and personal life? I mean, really?:spit::spit::spit:

How about u channel your "wise knowledge" to a player that actually needs it... like pova for starters? It just may help improve her mediocre results don't u think?:rolleyes:

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:10 AM
How about u channel your "wise knowledge" to a player that actually needs it... like pova for starters? It just may help improve her mediocre results don't u think?:rolleyes:

:haha: what did you smoke?

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:23 AM
When was it Serena appointed u her caretaker? What the f..K do u know? Like u were told, u know nothing as to the real facts and all the "logic shit" u spout on here are nothing but a personal opinion. I mean, do u really think u're wiser than Serena? U think u reason better than her and know her body more than her? Okay, she had the surgery few weeks b4 start of new season, so what? Have u given thought to the fact that based on medical advice, Serena most likely knew she would heal well enough before start of season.....considering how minor the surgery was? Serena is now in Brisbane....why would she do that if she isn't properly healed?

Maybe a "King Solomon" like u should mind your business & leave Serena alone. Serena has been taking care of her business long before your pathetic fave graduated from Boliterri Academy.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Amazing how nonentities think they're eminently qualified to educate Serena on how to manage her schedule and personal life? I mean, really?:spit::spit::spit:

How about u channel your "wise knowledge" to a player that actually needs it... like pova for starters? It just may help improve her mediocre results don't u think?:rolleyes:

LMAO Alright THIS comment right there just prove how cocky and arrogant serena tards are and highly insecure at the same time. All they do is babble about their favs and put down others. Well done. I don't know what you're up to, but I've never personally contacted Serena to tell her what to do. I've never claimed that I knew what she was going through. All I said for the xxxxx times is that as she knew she'd need a surgery sooner or later to do it when it wouldn't affect any of her commitments. If you don't find that logical or that YOU know better than what has been release in the media about her condition, please, as I said before, tell us more about it. If you have no clue whatsoever then, everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you don't find that logical, I'm sorry but you need to stop inserting your tongue so deep in her ass and maybe you'd be able to see something and start trying to use your brain. If you can openly say that the logical thing to do wouldn't be to get a CHRONIC injury fixed when you have no other commitments then please state that right now and just look like the dumbest person ever. As far as I know and that everyone know the doctors knew since a while about this injury.

I'm talking about facts here, I know in terms of facts you seem to be totally lost cuz Sharapova may not have the same resume as Serena but she's the 3rd best active player right now and is at a much higher level than Venus at the moment so calling her results mediocre just show how much shit you're talking about. Not surprising considering you're looking at it 24/7 (look back at what I said in the first paragraph and you may be able to understand what I'm implying here).

acetoace
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:45 AM
LMAO Alright THIS comment right there just prove how cocky and arrogant serena tards are and highly insecure at the same time. All they do is babble about their favs and put down others. Well done. I don't know what you're up to, but I've never personally contacted Serena to tell her what to do. I've never claimed that I knew what she was going through. All I said for the xxxxx times is that as she knew she'd need a surgery sooner or later to do it when it wouldn't affect any of her commitments. If you don't find that logical or that YOU know better than what has been release in the media about her condition, please, as I said before, tell us more about it. If you have no clue whatsoever then, everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you don't find that logical, I'm sorry but you need to stop inserting your tongue so deep in her ass and maybe you'd be able to see something and start trying to use your brain. If you can openly say that the logical thing to do wouldn't be to get a CHRONIC injury fixed when you have no other commitments then please state that right now and just look like the dumbest person ever. As far as I know and that everyone know the doctors knew since a while about this injury.

I'm talking about facts here, I know in terms of facts you seem to be totally lost cuz Sharapova may not have the same resume as Serena but she's the 3rd best active player right now and is at a much higher level than Venus at the moment so calling her results mediocre just show how much shit you're talking about. Not surprising considering you're looking at it 24/7 (look back at what I said in the first paragraph and you may be able to understand what I'm implying here).



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Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:50 AM
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That's what I thought ;):wavey:

MashaAzarenka
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:03 AM
I don't like how fans of players are put into groups. It seems as though if a fan of Serena, for example, says something that puts people off then the whole fanbase is is insulted. Same goes for fans of Sharapova, Azarenka, Venus, etc. If you have a problem with someone specific, don't group them with the whole fanbase. Ignore the fact that the person is a Serena fan, and address them as a person.

If more people would just talk to each other as people, instead of fans of whoever, this whole forum would get along much better :(

Lucyxx
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:28 AM
Well if she can comeback from a neck injury like Peyton Manning (Denver Broncos), then everything is just gravy.

I see her playing with so much passion for the game that any kind of minor neck injury, as serious as neck injuries can be in tennis (constantly looking around), that I don't see this impacting her game that much. Period.

Something tells me this is just one of those preseason precautionary things, the wording in the original post in particular, where I get the feeling her camp are just taking the safe side here.

I expect to see a 98-100% Masha effort come AO.

Stonerpova
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:35 AM
I don't like how fans of players are put into groups. It seems as though if a fan of Serena, for example, says something that puts people off then the whole fanbase is is insulted. Same goes for fans of Sharapova, Azarenka, Venus, etc. If you have a problem with someone specific, don't group them with the whole fanbase. Ignore the fact that the person is a Serena fan, and address them as a person.

If more people would just talk to each other as people, instead of fans of whoever, this whole forum would get along much better :(

That's what happens in a ton of threads around here. Certain posters give the rest of the fanbase that supports a player a bad name, and before long someone generalizes "all Serena fans" or "all Maria fans" and how pressed they all are (I swear to God that has become my least favorite word in the English language), they throw in some less-than-classy GIF, and then all hell breaks loose.

Plus certain posters have some sort of bullshit superiority complex because their fave is a great player. I swear some people think just because their fave is great they have reserved the right to talk down to the fans of less successful players.

MashaAzarenka
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:54 AM
That's what happens in a ton of threads around here. Certain posters give the rest of the fanbase that supports a player a bad name, and before long someone generalizes "all Serena fans" or "all Maria fans" and how pressed they all are (I swear to God that has become my least favorite word in the English language), they throw in some less-than-classy GIF, and then all hell breaks loose.

Plus certain posters have some sort of bullshit superiority complex because there fave is a great player. I swear some people think just because their fave is great they have reserved the right to talk down to the fans of less successful players.

Thank you for this, you're one of the few people on here who have a level head

Vartan
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:08 AM
Why is Serena always in Maria's threads :sobbing:

MashaAzarenka
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:08 AM
Why is Serena always in Maria's threads :sobbing:

Everyone goes off topic lol.

thegreendestiny
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:25 AM
Why is Serena always in Maria's threads :sobbing:

Serenatards are generally IQ deficient, always finding their way in Maria's thread. I guess rotten apples don't fall far from the home-wrecking tree. :oh:

Stonerpova
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:45 AM
Serenatards are generally IQ deficient, always finding their way in Maria's thread. I guess rotten apples don't fall far from the home-wrecking tree. :oh:

Kind of proving my point :lol:

GoofyDuck
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:52 AM
If only Serena had Vincey and Dominic as her personal doctors. They are experts on sports injuries and also experts on Serena's body. If she had them she could have avoided 75% of the injuries in her career and could have been close to Graf's Slam count by now. But alas, she is too stubborn and gets her advice from people who went to medical school. That was her greatest mistake. :tears:

:worship: :spit:
Oh and do YOU know anything about it? Before getting yourself offended you should maybe look for information yourself. I'm using logic with what has been released. Those are FACTS everyone knows, she got surgery on her toes, it's a minor surgery, that was a chronic injury. :shrug: Use your logic. You have a chronic injury, you know you're gonna need it to be fixed, you have 2 months off. Are you seriously going to wait 2 weeks before your first tournament to get it done? I'm sorry but you won't. NOW if there's any other variable that hasn't been released it's not my problem, I'm dealing with what everyone knows, and if you're so clever and you have other FACTS about Serena and that particular surgery, please lighten up my lantern.

You dont seem to have a lantern. :lol:

Mistress of Evil
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:54 AM
A lot of words for "I don't know how to take a joke." :rolleyes:
There is some thing which are off limits joke wise like death, misery, pain, Chernobyl. How can you joke about it when you see all those people in tears and when they seem so emotionally crushed. You are truly disgusting.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tc0cCNvb1qb4a6z.gif



Just to make sure that people see it and cut this whole exqusite convo that is going on. Now you can move forward with the 'Sharapova cannot get crowds' type of thing.

Real reason : poor tickets sales and she was asked to "withdraw".

JN
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:58 AM
Well we do know what kind of crap Serena has come up with before.

http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/76.gif


Why is Serena always in Maria's threads :sobbing:

It's payback for the inverse.

vixter
Dec 28th, 2012, 09:11 AM
There is some thing which are off limits joke wise like death, misery, pain, Chernobyl. How can you joke about it when you see all those people in tears and when they seem so emotionally crushed. You are truly disgusting.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8tc0cCNvb1qb4a6z.gif



Just to make sure that people see it and cut this whole exqusite convo that is going on. Now you can move forward with the 'Sharapova cannot get crowds' type of thing.

Maybe you are just a tad too sensitive. The GIF in question was meant as a joke at MARIA's expense, it had really not much to do with Korea(north/south) :rolleyes:

If low ticket sales really was the official reason, why would they "ask Maria to withdraw" why not just cancel because of low ticket sales?

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 11:18 AM
LMAO Alright THIS comment right there just prove how cocky and arrogant serena tards are and highly insecure at the same time. All they do is babble about their favs and put down others. Well done. I don't know what you're up to, but I've never personally contacted Serena to tell her what to do. I've never claimed that I knew what she was going through. All I said for the xxxxx times is that as she knew she'd need a surgery sooner or later to do it when it wouldn't affect any of her commitments. If you don't find that logical or that YOU know better than what has been release in the media about her condition, please, as I said before, tell us more about it. If you have no clue whatsoever then, everyone is entitled to their opinion and if you don't find that logical, I'm sorry but you need to stop inserting your tongue so deep in her ass and maybe you'd be able to see something and start trying to use your brain. If you can openly say that the logical thing to do wouldn't be to get a CHRONIC injury fixed when you have no other commitments then please state that right now and just look like the dumbest person ever. As far as I know and that everyone know the doctors knew since a while about this injury.

I'm talking about facts here, I know in terms of facts you seem to be totally lost cuz Sharapova may not have the same resume as Serena but she's the 3rd best active player right now and is at a much higher level than Venus at the moment so calling her results mediocre just show how much shit you're talking about. Not surprising considering you're looking at it 24/7 (look back at what I said in the first paragraph and you may be able to understand what I'm implying here).

You're just clamping on the chronic-thing, to save your face. If it wasn't chronic, then there wasn't much you could say.

L'Enfant Sauvage
Dec 28th, 2012, 11:40 AM
I don't like how fans of players are put into groups. It seems as though if a fan of Serena, for example, says something that puts people off then the whole fanbase is is insulted. Same goes for fans of Sharapova, Azarenka, Venus, etc. If you have a problem with someone specific, don't group them with the whole fanbase. Ignore the fact that the person is a Serena fan, and address them as a person.

If more people would just talk to each other as people, instead of fans of whoever, this whole forum would get along much better :(

:hug: Now that's just adorable. I wonder how long this attitude will last :lol:

Jimmie48
Dec 28th, 2012, 11:41 AM
There is some thing which are off limits joke wise like death, misery, pain, Chernobyl. How can you joke about it when you see all those people in tears and when they seem so emotionally crushed. You are truly disgusting.



Please...like you give a shit about the people in North Korea... fake outrage is fake :rolleyes:

Olórin
Dec 28th, 2012, 11:45 AM
Oh and do YOU know anything about it? Before getting yourself offended you should maybe look for information yourself. I'm using logic with what has been released.

Simply enough information hasn't been released for any "logical analysis" to be conducted. So why don't you just drop the matter instead of making yourself look like an idiot.

You have no first hand information about the situation, you've gone to all intents and purposes on a tirade against Serena and her fans with multiple essays to justify your extreme position and you think you have any remote claim to "logic" or the "high ground" here? Laughable Christmas posting on WTAworld yet again :lol:

Chrissie-fan
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:21 PM
That's what happens in a ton of threads around here. Certain posters give the rest of the fanbase that supports a player a bad name, and before long someone generalizes "all Serena fans" or "all Maria fans" and how pressed they all are (I swear to God that has become my least favorite word in the English language), they throw in some less-than-classy GIF, and then all hell breaks loose.

Plus certain posters have some sort of bullshit superiority complex because their fave is a great player. I swear some people think just because their fave is great they have reserved the right to talk down to the fans of less successful players.
I very much agree with what you say in both paragraphs.

But some are only bothered when it comes to negative comments about their own fave. Two minutes later they click on another thread and give another player the same treatment that they have just been complaining about. While I agree that the Masha gif is in poor taste, part of me also thinks, "where were you guys when everyone was adding their :happy::cheer::aparty::banana: :wavey: :facepalm: to gifs about an injured Wozniacki that were even meaner than the Masha gif?" Some were probably adding a few of their own. And some of what you're saying also has to do with what in the minds of those posters is fan loyalty. They see it as an act of betrayal to say anything borderline positive about a rival player.

SilverSlam
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:27 PM
:hug: Now that's just adorable. I wonder how long this attitude will last :lol:

:lol: You can always tell the new posters and those who've returned on TF :sobbing:

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:29 PM
:worship: :spit:


You dont seem to have a lantern. :lol:
Oh sorry do you know ME? Who are you to claim I have no lantern? :rolleyes: See what I did there?

You're just clamping on the chronic-thing, to save your face. If it wasn't chronic, then there wasn't much you could say.
Yes but it WAS A CHRONIC injury! That's my point exactly! If the sun wasn't warm, nobody would say it's because of it if the Earth gets warm.

Simply enough information hasn't been released for any "logical analysis" to be conducted. So why don't you just drop the matter instead of making yourself look like an idiot.

You have no first hand information about the situation, you've gone to all intents and purposes on a tirade against Serena and her fans with multiple essays to justify your extreme position and you think you have any remote claim to "logic" or the "high ground" here? Laughable Christmas posting on WTAworld yet again :lol:

Hummm Well I'm not claiming to have the absolute truth. I'm talking with the infos we have in hands right now. You can disagree with me if you want, but I'm entitle to do the analysis that I want no matter what some serena tards believe is right or not. If you see a flaw in my "position" with the infos that we have, please, again express yourself and tell me why. If you can't come with some common sense beside "you don't know what happened" then don't bother replying. Nobody knows what happens except her, and I have never claimed myself to know the truth. AGAIN, all I said is that with the info that has been released it sounded more logical to do it sooner. Some Serena fans sure like to blow things out of proportions.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:36 PM
Yes but it WAS A CHRONIC injury! That's my point exactly! If the sun wasn't warm, nobody would say it's because of it if the Earth gets warm.

So yeah it was chronic...is that a reason to say that her withdrawal is worse than Maria's?! THAT's what you're trying to say.

She had the injury, she decided to have the surgery. END of it. Basta!
But no, you've to come with some STUPID blah blah about how she didn't plan it well, yada yada..who likes to be injured to begin with?!

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 12:57 PM
So yeah it was chronic...is that a reason to say that her withdrawal is worse than Maria's?! THAT's what you're trying to say.

She had the injury, she decided to have the surgery. END of it. Basta!
But no, you've to come with some STUPID blah blah about how she didn't plan it well, yada yada..who likes to be injured to begin with?!

LMAO I've never said THIS withdrawal in particular was WORSE. I don't know who, but someone brought Serena into this thread, so if you're going to say that Sharapova did wrong to withdraw you need to look at your fav first since she has withdrawn in the past with shadier injuries than this neck injury from Sharapova. That her recent withdrawal due to that surgery may have been prevented as well if she would have done it sooner. Don't attack another player if you don't want people to defend them. Don't try to put words in my mouth that I have never said to save your face now, you've done that quite a bit actually. Really annoying, assuming things and blowing things out of proportion. I'm not a Serena hater, don't pretend everything I say is 10 times worse than what I actually said.

madmax
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:06 PM
can somebody explain to me honestly why every single thread about Sharapova is turned into shitfest by WS tards for some reason? Why are mods allowing disrespectful gifs and bashing of the great player here? What is it that is preventing them to ban all these gif obsessed offenders and making this forum at least bearable to read?

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:15 PM
LMAO I've never said THIS withdrawal in particular was WORSE. I don't know who, but someone brought Serena into this thread, so if you're going to say that Sharapova did wrong to withdraw you need to look at your fav first since she has withdrawn in the past with shadier injuries than this neck injury from Sharapova. That her recent withdrawal due to that surgery may have been prevented as well if she would have done it sooner. Don't attack another player if you don't want people to defend them. Don't try to put words in my mouth that I have never said to save your face now, you've done that quite a bit actually. Really annoying, assuming things and blowing things out of proportion. I'm not a Serena hater, don't pretend everything I say is 10 times worse than what I actually said.

I didn't say it was wrong..I just found it ironic: everybody was all over Serena, doubting that her injury was legit..now Masha withdraws herself with an injury that's freak and now all her fans are: oh poor Masha, hope it's not serious, yada yada.

You guys are the ones quick to attack Serena, but now your fav is in the same position..now you're looking like fools.

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:29 PM
I didn't say it was wrong..I just found it ironic: everybody was all over Serena, doubting that her injury was legit..now Masha withdraws herself with an injury that's freak and now all her fans are: oh poor Masha, hope it's not serious, yada yada.

You guys are the ones quick to attack Serena, but now your fav is in the same position..now you're looking like fools.

lol As far as I'm concerned I've never attacked Serena and all I said was that between the two Serena has a withdrawal history much more important than Sharapova (with freaky ones as well) and that if you wanna compare their latest withdrawal, Serena could have planned it better than Maria. It's really hypocritical of you to come here and throw shits at Maria if it happens to Serena even more often. I mean, you're just creating a vicious circle and the next time Serena will withdraw you're going to defend Serena if someone attacks her and it's going to be ironic since you've attacked Sharapova so you're gonna be looking like a fool yourself even more. Good Luck with that lol

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:45 PM
lol As far as I'm concerned I've never attacked Serena and all I said was that between the two Serena has a withdrawal history much more important than Sharapova (with freaky ones as well) and that if you wanna compare their latest withdrawal, Serena could have planned it better than Maria. It's really hypocritical of you to come here and throw shits at Maria if it happens to Serena even more often. I mean, you're just creating a vicious circle and the next time Serena will withdraw you're going to defend Serena if someone attacks her and it's going to be ironic since you've attacked Sharapova so you're gonna be looking like a fool yourself even more. Good Luck with that lol

I didn't throw shit at Masha. I never question any injuries...it's you now who's on the record of keeping up with Serena's withdrawals and classifying them as dubious/badly planned/ etc... what's next? Serena should've had her knee-surgery in the off-season as well?!

doomsday
Dec 28th, 2012, 01:58 PM
What the hell is happening in here ? :lol:

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 02:05 PM
What the hell is happening in here ? :lol:

A Mashatard having trouble admitting that he measures with two measures. :lol:

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 02:23 PM
I didn't throw shit at Masha. I never question any injuries...it's you now who's on the record of keeping up with Serena's withdrawals and classifying them as dubious/badly planned/ etc... what's next? Serena should've had her knee-surgery in the off-season as well?!

You didn't throw shit at Maria? Then why are you in this thread in the first place then? Funnily enough, you're constantly bringing Maria and questioning her in a lot of different threads. OH and BTW I'm not measuring with two measures. Her knee surgery wasn't chronic at that time :rolleyes: YOU call yourself a Serena fan? lol I never said Serena's withdrawals were dubious or anything, just showed you that before saying how ironic it is that Sharapova has withdrawn now to look at what YOUR Serena has done in the past. You're the one not giving the same treatment to both players. Sharapova would have planned a surgery for a chronic injury so close to the beginning of the new season I would have had the same comments as I have for Serena. You need to understand that a chronic injury is not the same as a all of the sudden injury.

vixter
Dec 28th, 2012, 02:56 PM
I think, for the players, it is sometimes impossible for them to do right. They obviously sign up for these events and exhibitions long in advance. We can assume that they do their best to be able to participate, but things can come up. If they withdraw for whatever reason, we will critizise them for not fulfilling their duties and coming up with excuses. If they show up despite having minor injury problems, we will say it's stupid of them to risk further injury. We can remember what had just happened to Serena, when she played the Brussels exhibition against Kim Clijsters in 2010, and what happened afterwards.

If Maria says she felt pain in the neck and didn't want to risk anything, I think we should just accept that. And if it's actually a made up excuse, then so be it. Surely it's better than saying "nah, I just don't feel like it". :shrug:

Smitten
Dec 28th, 2012, 03:17 PM
Hope she come to Brisbane.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 03:18 PM
You didn't throw shit at Maria? Then why are you in this thread in the first place then? Funnily enough, you're constantly bringing Maria and questioning her in a lot of different threads. OH and BTW I'm not measuring with two measures. Her knee surgery wasn't chronic at that time :rolleyes: YOU call yourself a Serena fan? lol I never said Serena's withdrawals were dubious or anything, just showed you that before saying how ironic it is that Sharapova has withdrawn now to look at what YOUR Serena has done in the past. You're the one not giving the same treatment to both players. Sharapova would have planned a surgery for a chronic injury so close to the beginning of the new season I would have had the same comments as I have for Serena. You need to understand that a chronic injury is not the same as a all of the sudden injury.

I came in this thread to see how Mashatards were gonna react now that it was THEIR favorite who withdrew at the last moment, considering all the crap they had to say when Serena withdrew from her exhibition.
When it was Serena: it was all shameless, disgusting, doesn't care about the game, yada yada... now it's: oohhh tough break, she couldn't have planned it, yada yada...:lol: Priceless.

Knee was chronic too...if Serena hadn't had the surgery then, her tendon would've become totally useless. it's you who don't know nothing. :wavey:

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 03:37 PM
I came in this thread to see how Mashatards were gonna react now that it was THEIR favorite who withdrew at the last moment, considering all the crap they had to say when Serena withdrew from her exhibition.
When it was Serena: it was all shameless, disgusting, doesn't care about the game, yada yada... now it's: oohhh tough break, she couldn't have planned it, yada yada...:lol: Priceless.

Knee was chronic too...if Serena hadn't had the surgery then, her tendon would've become totally useless. it's you who don't know nothing. :wavey:

Her knee was chronic but her surgery wasn't her last option at that time, it came to that point tho. The doctor said they knew they will have to proceed to a surgery to her toes tho. If you don't see a difference beside a surgery and a injury than I'm sorry for you. Coming in a thread to do exactly what you despise them to do is so childish and immature and just encourage them to continue to do the same to Serena. :wavey: I'll welcome you each time I see you bashing Sharapova.

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 03:58 PM
I didn't say it was wrong..I just found it ironic: everybody was all over Serena, doubting that her injury was legit.

There is nothing ironic about that, Maria and Serena are different ppl with very different withdrawal histories. Serena withdrew with shady reasons LOADS of times before, and not just exhibitions, she deserved all the crap she got.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:00 PM
Her knee was chronic but her surgery wasn't her last option at that time, it came to that point tho. The doctor said they knew they will have to proceed to a surgery to her toes tho. If you don't see a difference beside a surgery and a injury than I'm sorry for you. Coming in a thread to do exactly what you despise them to do is so childish and immature and just encourage them to continue to do the same to Serena. :wavey: I'll welcome you each time I see you bashing Sharapova.

Knee wasn't chronic, Shoulder wasn't chronic...yet they deprived us from many many months of watching them play. Shame on them. THAT's what you were saying, no?! :shrug:

You see me attacking nobody? :shrug: I'm just having a laugh at the hypocricy.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:02 PM
There is nothing ironic about that, Maria and Serena are different ppl with very different withdrawal histories. Serena withdrew with shady reasons LOADS of times before, and not just exhibitions, she deserved all the crap she got.

Oh the resident doctor of the Mashatards. :lol:

Hey Doc. Shady reasons, huh? I guess you examined her?

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:27 PM
Knee wasn't chronic, Shoulder wasn't chronic...yet they deprived us from many many months of watching them play. Shame on them. THAT's what you were saying, no?! :shrug:

You see me attacking nobody? :shrug: I'm just having a laugh at the hypocricy.

I never talked about the knee injury you brought it up, I never ever mentioned the shoulder injury whatsoever. You just brought it up. Why are you making stuff up like that? lmao but yes that's a shame they all get such important injuries out of nowhere. Your point now please? You're the most hypocrite people in here, you constantly bash and look to put Sharapova down in every thread and when someone is putting an argument about something Serena does (not even bashing her or anything) you call for hypocrisy? lol

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:42 PM
I never talked about the knee injury you brought it up, I never ever mentioned the shoulder injury whatsoever. You just brought it up. Why are you making stuff up like that? lmao but yes that's a shame they all get such important injuries out of nowhere. Your point now please? You're the most hypocrite people in here, you constantly bash and look to put Sharapova down in every thread and when someone is putting an argument about something Serena does (not even bashing her or anything) you call for hypocrisy? lol

Did I question Maria's injury, her withdrawing? Nope..but the Mashatards sure were all over Serena's withdrawing or you're gonna deny that you started blah blahing about Serena not planning her surgery? that was none of your business.

But now, now..that Masha got 'injured', they come with all kinds of excuses. that's the hypocricy.
I never bash Masha. I bash her FANS for their hypocricy.

doomsday
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:45 PM
Did I question Maria's injury, her withdrawing? Nope..but the Mashatards sure were all over Serena's withdrawing or you're gonna deny that you started blah blahing about Serena not planning her surgery? that was none of your business.

But now, now..that Masha got 'injured', they come with all kinds of excuses. that's the hypocricy.
I never bash Masha. I bash her FANS for their hypocricy.

:lol::lol::lol::lol:

FoxyliciousKhat
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:46 PM
If a man steals a hundred times he's a THIEF. If a man steals once he is STILL a THIEF.

That's all I'm gonna say, decipher however you wish.

Foxy

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:48 PM
Did I question Maria's injury, her withdrawing? Nope..but the Mashatards sure were all over Serena's withdrawing or you're gonna deny that you started blah blahing about Serena not planning her surgery? that was none of your business.

But now, now..that Masha got 'injured', they come with all kinds of excuses. that's the hypocricy.
I never bash Masha. I bash her FANS for their hypocricy.
LMAO I can disagree with the way she handle her injury without bashing her. You can't make the difference between showing an opinion and bashing someone. I don't believe she or her team handle things correctly, it's my opinion, you can disagree but that doesn't make me a hater. Any other player would have done that and I would have thought the same thing.
If YOU were offended by the way some mashatards attacked Serena when she withdrew and you come in here to say how as bad Maria is to withdraw as well then you're the hypocrite. You don't see anything wrong with Serena withdrawing then you shouldn't see anything wrong with Sharapova doing the same thing, therefore you shouldn't even be in this thread arguing about it. BTW you're involving Sharapova in most of your post so don't say you're not bashing her, you're a hater.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:53 PM
LMAO I can disagree with the way she handle her injury without bashing her. You can't make the difference between showing an opinion and bashing someone. I don't believe she or her team handle things correctly, it's my opinion, you can disagree but that doesn't make me a hater. Any other player would have done that and I would have thought the same thing.
If YOU were offended by the way some mashatards attacked Serena when she withdrew and you come in here to say how as bad Maria is to withdraw as well then you're the hypocrite. You don't see anything wrong with Serena withdrawing then you shouldn't see anything wrong with Sharapova doing the same thing, therefore you shouldn't even be in this thread arguing about it. BTW you're involving Sharapova in most of your post so don't say you're not bashing her, you're a hater.

It does become bashing when you QUESTION wether she was really injured or not. Then it ain't about no opinion anymore. Because if you're gonna question HER injury, then you've to question MASHA's too. And that's what the hypocrite Mashatards ain't doing.

I don't have a problem if you say the timing isn't good or whatever, I don't agree..but it's your opinion. It becomes a problem when people question Serena's, but then turn around and act like Masha's the truth, the Gospel.

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Oh the resident doctor of the Mashatards. :lol:

Hey Doc. Shady reasons, huh? I guess you examined her?

So you're saying everytime she withdrew she had a legitimate injury? :lol: That's what I've always said about you, no judgment or logic.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:02 PM
So you're saying everytime she withdrew she had a legitimate injury? :lol: That's what I've always said about you, no judgment or logic.

I'd only doubt that..if you doubt that not all of Masha's withdrawals were legit. So...do you?

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:06 PM
It does become bashing when you QUESTION wether she was really injured or not. Then it ain't about no opinion anymore. Because if you're gonna question HER injury, then you've to question MASHA's too. And that's what the hypocrite Mashatards ain't doing.

I don't have a problem if you say the timing isn't good or whatever, I don't agree..but it's your opinion. It becomes a problem when people question Serena's, but then turn around and act like Masha's the truth, the Gospel.

Oh yes? Then what was that big fuss all about when I only said that Serena's timing was odd? You replied to my post for quite a while saying all sort of shits when it was all I was implying and repeated many times.
Again if you have a problem with a mashatards or any other tards, it's useless to attack their faves cuz you're just gonna get them more pissed and you're coming of as a hypocrite yourself. You wanna shut them up, just use arguments agaisnt THEM and what they say about your player.

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:11 PM
I'd only doubt that..if you doubt that not all of Masha's withdrawals were legit. So...do you?

Masha hasn't withdrawn a zillion times in a shady manner in her career, when she does, I will doubt her.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Masha hasn't withdrawn a zillion times in a shady manner in her career, when she does, I will doubt her.

That wasn't the question, Domi. Answer the question. You doubt Masha's withdrawals or not?

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:43 PM
Oh yes? Then what was that big fuss all about when I only said that Serena's timing was odd? You replied to my post for quite a while saying all sort of shits when it was all I was implying and repeated many times.
Again if you have a problem with a mashatards or any other tards, it's useless to attack their faves cuz you're just gonna get them more pissed and you're coming of as a hypocrite yourself. You wanna shut them up, just use arguments agaisnt THEM and what they say about your player.

So now I'm the hypocrite? I asked Dominic point-blank: the day he starts doubting Masha's withdrawals and injuries, is the day I'll start doubting Serena's injuries...and well you saw what he answered.

Soooo...the biggest hypocrites are all mashatards. :wavey:

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:51 PM
That wasn't the question, Domi. Answer the question. You doubt Masha's withdrawals or not?

The world doesn't work like that sweety, it's not all black or white, yes or no, you have to take into account circumstances, there is a reason why many ppl doubt Serena's withdrawals and not Maria's. Right now, no I don't doubt Maria's withdrawals at all but if she had Serena's history hell yeah I would.

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 05:57 PM
So now I'm the hypocrite? I asked Dominic point-blank: the day he starts doubting Masha's withdrawals and injuries, is the day I'll start doubting Serena's injuries...and well you saw what he answered.

Soooo...the biggest hypocrites are all mashatards. :wavey:

Alright this time alone I'll defend Dominic, Serena and Sharapova have, as he said, really different withdrawals records and depending on what are the circumstances people are more inclined to doubt Serena's real reason than Sharapova's. You may agree with that or not but as long as you don't bring tangible example supporting your idea that Serena's withdrawal were not shady at times you shouldn't bash on Sharapova's. You can't just put everyone in the same basket like that anyway. It doesn't make YOU less of a hypocrite tho even if you think Dominic or me or whoever tards are hypocrites. How old are you? Seriously you sound more and more like a child trying to put the blame on someone else. You're responsible for your own comments.

jameshazza
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:00 PM
Serena is in Brisbane, Maria will land tomorrow. [/discussion]

edificio
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Fer crissakes, people, these are exhibitions. In the exhibition in Thailand, they were able to obtain an equally pleasing substitute (Li Na) and in the other, they had to cancel (perhaps as someone suggested ticket sales were slow anyway). Serena, Maria, and all other members of the WTA have to see to their health and physical needs first. Therefore, they sometimes withdraw from events. Unless you were planning to attend, why do you care so much? You would think they are compensating by taking hundreds from your personal account each time one of these women withdraw from an event the way you do go on. :rolleyes:

If I were Maria and I had a neck niggle, I would withdraw too. Her focus is on the Australian Open 2013. If I had a foot problem, no matter the kind, I too would withdraw as Serena did, as her focus is also on AO 2013. The last time Serena didn't withdraw from an exhibition event when she had an injury was the infamous Brussels substituting for Henin against Kim. You all know how that turned out.

Shuji Shuriken
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:17 PM
Hello.. it was Serena. Nothing believable comes out of this woman's mouth
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to http://i52.tinypic.com/okah6r.jpg

Kairi
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:25 PM
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to http://i52.tinypic.com/okah6r.jpg

:haha:

Stonerpova
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to http://i52.tinypic.com/okah6r.jpg

Except she has never promised anything of the sort :lol:

$uricate
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:35 PM
I'm sure as hell the girl doesn't even know there are North and South Korea. PRK people should be pissed she didn't acknowledge them. :(



Whattabitch :o

She promised...

When you break a promise you make Kim Jong-Il cry in heaven :sad:

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:46 PM
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to

Hmm in which one of your dreams did she do that :lol:

Pump-it-UP
Dec 28th, 2012, 06:58 PM
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to http://i52.tinypic.com/okah6r.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-UyEuLq0gpBU/TmVReWCtYdI/AAAAAAAAAco/z1UDYvGWWU0/GodBless.gif

MrProdigy555
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:08 PM
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to http://i52.tinypic.com/okah6r.jpg
Yassss! :happy:

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:32 PM
Alright this time alone I'll defend Dominic, Serena and Sharapova have, as he said, really different withdrawals records and depending on what are the circumstances people are more inclined to doubt Serena's real reason than Sharapova's. You may agree with that or not but as long as you don't bring tangible example supporting your idea that Serena's withdrawal were not shady at times you shouldn't bash on Sharapova's. You can't just put everyone in the same basket like that anyway. It doesn't make YOU less of a hypocrite tho even if you think Dominic or me or whoever tards are hypocrites. How old are you? Seriously you sound more and more like a child trying to put the blame on someone else. You're responsible for your own comments.

So you do agree that you're questioning Serena's withdrawals, but don't so much blink when Masha withdraws? Okay..then we're good. Was nice exposing your hypocricy. :wavey:

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:32 PM
The world doesn't work like that sweety, it's not all black or white, yes or no, you have to take into account circumstances, there is a reason why many ppl doubt Serena's withdrawals and not Maria's. Right now, no I don't doubt Maria's withdrawals at all but if she had Serena's history hell yeah I would.

And what reasons would those be?! One is the mediadarling who can't do no wrong and the other is an african-american who till this day still isn't being fully appreciated/respected.

But it is what it is. Keep on hating, haters. :wavey: The numbers will speak for themselves.

bandabou
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:35 PM
Hmm in which one of your dreams did she do that :lol:

HMmm....Olympic finals...:wavey:

Vartan
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:38 PM
:rolleyes:

Dominic
Dec 28th, 2012, 07:40 PM
And what reasons would those be?! One is the mediadarling who can't do no wrong and the other is an african-american who till this day still isn't being fully appreciated/respected.


The reasons have been mentionned a gazillion times in this thread and even in the post you were quoting.
HMmm....Olympic finals...:wavey:

she didn't promise that :confused:
Anyway keep raving bud!

Vincey!
Dec 28th, 2012, 08:14 PM
So you do agree that you're questioning Serena's withdrawals, but don't so much blink when Masha withdraws? Okay..then we're good. Was nice exposing your hypocricy. :wavey:
LMAO! you're so desperately blind. Serena has withdrawn with so many obscure reasons throughout the years. Not only do fans questioned them sometimes but also commentators and journalists. Sharapova ,on the other hand, has never had those suspicious withdrawals. I get that Serena is your faves and you may think it's unfair but I'm not the one who gave her that reputation. It doesn't make her less of a great champion tho so I don't get why you're so pressed about it. If you've given back alot of works late it's normal that your boss will doubt you sometimes at the opposition of someone who give their work back in time most of the time. The boss won't take both of those people's reasons the same way all the time.

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 28th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to http://i52.tinypic.com/okah6r.jpg

:hysteric: :haha:

LeRoy.
Dec 28th, 2012, 11:33 PM
The Serena-Masha fans constantly fighting in every thread is getting sooooo old. :yawn:

Deestruction
Dec 29th, 2012, 02:07 AM
The Serena-Masha fans constantly fighting in every thread is getting sooooo old. :yawn:

You should see MTF Fed-Nadal fans its basically the same thing, i get use to it. :lol:

JN
Dec 29th, 2012, 03:57 AM
How about u channel your "wise knowledge" to a player that actually needs it... like pova for starters? It just may help improve her mediocre results don't u think?:rolleyes::haha: what did you smoke?

Translation: "Acetoace makes plenty of sense here, but it concerns Serena, so I will only partially quote him and provide a senseless comment, w/trademark obligatory smiley, cuz, as usual, I have nothing to rebut him with. :tape: Look how witty and mature I am. :cheer:"

mykarma
Dec 29th, 2012, 04:27 AM
Serenatards are generally IQ deficient, always finding their way in Maria's thread. I guess rotten apples don't fall far from the home-wrecking tree. :oh:
Well ain't that the pot calling the kettle black.

Dominic
Dec 29th, 2012, 04:34 AM
Translation: "Acetoace makes plenty of sense here, but it concerns Serena, so I will only partially quote him and provide a senseless comment, w/trademark obligatory smiley, cuz, as usual, I have nothing to rebut him with. :tape: Look how witty and mature I am. :cheer:"

So you think Maria had mediocre results in 2012 :haha: do you even know what "mediocre" means? :help:

mykarma
Dec 29th, 2012, 04:36 AM
can somebody explain to me honestly why every single thread about Sharapova is turned into shitfest by WS tards for some reason? Why are mods allowing disrespectful gifs and bashing of the great player here? What is it that is preventing them to ban all these gif obsessed offenders and making this forum at least bearable to read?
It's a Mashatard analyzing and writing essays about Serena's injury that keeping the argument going.

mykarma
Dec 29th, 2012, 04:40 AM
Except when she promises to drag the bitch this thread is dedicated to http://i52.tinypic.com/okah6r.jpg
:lol:

JN
Dec 29th, 2012, 05:27 AM
So you think Maria had mediocre results in 2012 :haha: do you even know what "mediocre" means? :help:

I addressed your almost total ignorance of acetoace's post, and this is what you come back with... complete with the insecure smileys I alluded to? Dude, please stop playing yourself, it's embarrassing.

JN
Dec 29th, 2012, 05:34 AM
Except she has never promised anything of the sort :lol:

Right, she just does it w/o warning. :rolls:

bandabou
Dec 29th, 2012, 09:04 AM
LMAO! you're so desperately blind. Serena has withdrawn with so many obscure reasons throughout the years. Not only do fans questioned them sometimes but also commentators and journalists. Sharapova ,on the other hand, has never had those suspicious withdrawals. I get that Serena is your faves and you may think it's unfair but I'm not the one who gave her that reputation. It doesn't make her less of a great champion tho so I don't get why you're so pressed about it. If you've given back alot of works late it's normal that your boss will doubt you sometimes at the opposition of someone who give their work back in time most of the time. The boss won't take both of those people's reasons the same way all the time.

That's the thing..anything Serena does, is scrutinized..everything is obscure,dubious..who are anybody to question like that? Ans Masha says: neck inury..it's ah poor sweet Masha.

But anyways, it's what it is.

Olórin
Dec 29th, 2012, 01:27 PM
LMAO! you're so desperately blind. Serena has withdrawn with so many obscure reasons throughout the years. Not only do fans questioned them sometimes but also commentators and journalists. Sharapova ,on the other hand, has never had those suspicious withdrawals. I get that Serena is your faves and you may think it's unfair but I'm not the one who gave her that reputation. It doesn't make her less of a great champion tho so I don't get why you're so pressed about it. If you've given back alot of works late it's normal that your boss will doubt you sometimes at the opposition of someone who give their work back in time most of the time. The boss won't take both of those people's reasons the same way all the time.

The point is, you're not her "boss" and neither are you a paying fan going to see her in this exhibition from what I can gather. So precisely what is your reason for going on and on about about this withdrawal in this thread, which is about Maria Sharapova, as a couple of highly intelligent people have pointed out.

If you were so interested in being "objective" as you claimed up thread you would be basing your rationalisations not on "reputation" but on fact. You aren't. So I do find your stance and your entire tone in this thread hypocritical and point blank foolish. It is frustrating to see these kinds of unnecessary debate derail threads time and time again.

Cosmic Voices
Dec 29th, 2012, 01:31 PM
WTH is everyone STILL arguing about this?
Brisbane is about to start, so unless either Rena or Maria get carried off on a stretcher whilst playing, it's safe to say both are fit, happy and healthy.

JESUS

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m0lu0cK6s41qb4h32.gif

madmax
Dec 29th, 2012, 01:34 PM
14 pages of random ramblings because of precautionary withdrawal from useless exho...:haha:
Maria truly has all these haters riled up no matter what she does...carry on folks

JN
Dec 29th, 2012, 02:47 PM
14 pages of random ramblings because of precautionary withdrawal from useless exho...:haha:
Maria truly has all these haters riled up no matter what she does...carry on folks

Thanks for contributing. :hatoff:

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 29th, 2012, 03:32 PM
Right, she just does it w/o warning. :rolls:

:lol: okaaaay!

Dominic
Dec 29th, 2012, 03:35 PM
I addressed your almost total ignorance of acetoace's post, and this is what you come back with... complete with the insecure smileys I alluded to? Dude, please stop playing yourself, it's embarrassing.

:weirdo: What the hell is wrong with you!? Seriously you're not normal. I don't give a damn about the rest of his post I pointed out that Maria did not have mediocre results in 2012 by any stretch of the imagination. Find something better to do than to stalk me you creep :help:

Dominic
Dec 29th, 2012, 03:39 PM
That's the thing..anything Serena does, is scrutinized..everything is obscure,dubious..who are anybody to question like that? Ans Masha says: neck inury..it's ah poor sweet Masha.

But anyways, it's what it is.

There are reasons for that, and they've been mentionned plenty of times in this thread.

Vincey!
Dec 29th, 2012, 04:36 PM
That's the thing..anything Serena does, is scrutinized..everything is obscure,dubious..who are anybody to question like that? Ans Masha says: neck inury..it's ah poor sweet Masha.

But anyways, it's what it is.
I personally don't scrutinized everything she does. You wanted to compare both Maria and Serena's withdrawals that's what you got. As I said tho Serena is still a great champion and whatever works for her is good.

[QUOTE=Olórin;22644675]The point is, you're not her "boss" and neither are you a paying fan going to see her in this exhibition from what I can gather. So precisely what is your reason for going on and on about about this withdrawal in this thread, which is about Maria Sharapova, as a couple of highly intelligent people have pointed out.

If you were so interested in being "objective" as you claimed up thread you would be basing your rationalisations not on "reputation" but on fact. You aren't. So I do find your stance and your entire tone in this thread hypocritical and point blank foolish. It is frustrating to see these kinds of unnecessary debate derail threads time and time again.

LMAO Where the hell are you coming from? You clearly no nothing about what has been discussed here. I didn't start talking about Serena. Your whole comment is totally clueless and wrong. I never implied I was Serena's boss. Can't you understand that this was an analogy? I was explaining that depending on what you've done several times in the past, the perception of people in regards of what you're doing may be different than someone else who doesn't have that same history. HERE'S ANOTHEr ANALOGY (just for you to understand I'm not her teacher either). If you come late to school 1 or 2 times a week, and your friend comes late that one day, your teacher may not make a big fuss about your friend but he'll questioned yours AGAIN cuz you've done it more. I'm basing myself on facts, facts are Serena has had many weird/odd last minute withdrawals. THOSE ARE FACTS look at her history. Again I didn't start talking about Serena here! Bandabou did, a serena tard :shrug: I've paid to watch tennis and I highly considered paying to go see HER in Toronto during the exo. Your first and last sentence of your post just prove how much you know NOTHING about me and my post and about what has been going in this thread. You should listen to you own advice and look at FACT before talking crap about someone. :rolleyes:

JN
Dec 29th, 2012, 05:10 PM
:weirdo: What the hell is wrong with you!? Seriously you're not normal. I don't give a damn about the rest of his post I pointed out that Maria did not have mediocre results in 2012 by any stretch of the imagination. Find something better to do than to stalk me you creep :help:

Huh??? What??? :confused: Sorry, kid, but this is what stalking looks like:

http://imgsrv2.tennisuniverse.com/wtaworld/images/reputation/reputation_neg.gif Who was the last poster... (http://www.tennisforum.com/showthread.php?p=22460105#post22460105) Nov 21st, 2012 11:30 AM :hah:Dominic (http://www.tennisforum.com/member.php?u=35158) wow how much did you pay them? :spit:
How pressed do you have to be to bad rep a person's good reps. :haha: :happy:

Recognize. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z225/dongoliano/skully.gif

HRHoliviasmith
Dec 29th, 2012, 05:16 PM
Huh??? What??? :confused: Sorry, kid, but this is what stalking looks like:



Recognize. http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z225/dongoliano/skully.gif

let him tell it, he's the only one with a life, and that everyone stalks. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Meelis
Dec 29th, 2012, 05:17 PM
Enough of off-topic.