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Mitch01
Dec 4th, 2002, 03:44 AM
Hey, just want to bring something up that's news around where I live.
It seems that more and more, people are trying to get rid of the word 'Christmas' in order to be politically correct....well I shouldn't say people in general, but the politicians and other people who run our country's affairs. For example....at the BC (my province) Legislature, there is no 'Christmas tree' but there is a 'Seasonal' tree....the Royal Canadian Mint has changed its winter slogan from the 12 days of Christmas to the 12 days of 'Giving'...Christmas concerts are now 'Winter Festivals' in many schools...those are just some of the examples.
I think this really outrageous....Christmas has always been Christmas, and I dont' think we should be changing this in order to appease other people. Here, we still call Ramadan Ramadan, we still call Chanukah Chanukah...so why the hell are we trying to change Christmas? I can't imagine that people who come to Canada would be insulted by this, as they know they are moving into a different culture where Christmas and other traditions are different...and even so, we shouldn't be changing our major traditions for anything, for most Canadians Christmas is one of, if not the, most important time of the year.

I know it's not just here that it is happening, I heard that somewhere else (I think it was somewhere in Australia), there has been talk about replacing Santa Claus with a clown!!
So I just wanted to hear what other people think about this. Also if there are people here who live in a Western country and observe Ramadan or Chanukah, I'd love to hear what your views are....is it difficult to have Christmas so prevalent everywhere you look around this time of year?

ttaM
Dec 4th, 2002, 04:00 AM
There is a lot of stuff being said in the US involving the ACLU and Christmas. Aparently the ACLU is getting upset that churches are putting out nativity scenes. One case actually was solved by a church being allowed to keep the nativity scene if they put a candy cane along with the figures of christ, etc. The ACLU also demanded that a school in Atlanta not use the word "Christmas" on a school calender, because "Christmas" is too religious of a word. How dumb! In this case the ACLU is acting like the Taliban. Does anyone really give a damn that figures of Christ might be displayed in front of a church, or someones home. And the government doesn't enfore Christmas on anyone, so the ACLU can shove it up their ass IMO.

i-girl
Dec 4th, 2002, 04:29 AM
I agree with you Mitch. I think maybe with the exception of mixed schools (schools that have students from different religions), where I think it's wise to have a celebration which recognizes all the holidays going on at this time of the year, there's no reason why christians wouldn't properly celebrate their holiday. especially since we're talking about mostly christian countries. as a Jew, I would be upset if someone wanted me to "disguise" the religion orientation of Chanuka, no reason christians should.

Mitch01
Dec 4th, 2002, 05:36 AM
Thanks for replying GoMonica and i-girl.
i-girl, I agree with you that in mixed schools, it's wise to have a celebration which recognizes all of the different holidays that are going on. I think it would be valuable for all children to learn more about other cultures, at a younger age so that they are less biased. I know in the rural school where my mother teaches, they are putting on a Christmas pageant this year that deals with the various celebrations that other groups celebrate, and they've brought in a Jewish family and I believe an Islamic family also to help out. The kids (and also their parents) are really getting into it apparently, and while they're having fun, they're also learning important lessons about other cultures in the world. I don't know if things like this would go over well in most schools that are found in the city, because of religious and racial issues, but I think it would help make children here grow up to be a little more tolerant of other groups.
Anyways...getting a bit off the topic I originally brought up. I'll shut up now ;)

Car Key Boi
Dec 4th, 2002, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Mitch01
is it difficult to have Christmas so prevalent everywhere you look around this time of year?

nahh

http://carkeyboi.com/xmas.jpg

caramel
Dec 4th, 2002, 07:40 AM
That picture sucks a$$...