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Leo St
Dec 20th, 2012, 05:13 AM
people here seem to know so well the flaws in everyone's games, so i was wondering, in a more technical view, what would you try to implement as a coach if training certain players?
for example, we all know azarenka lacks a great serve, so as her coach, how would you aproach that issue?

ill start by saying that as venus coach, id suggest her to stand back a little when returning serve

ps: replies such as "id tell her to get a forehand" are pointless, if not followed by some perspective on how to achieve that (hitting flatter? adding spin? changing the mechanics?) lets keep the trolling away

Lord Choc Ice
Dec 20th, 2012, 05:53 AM
I'd tell Ana to gain some weight to hopefully increase power in her shots. The FH is still big, but not as big since she lost all that weight :).

jameshazza
Dec 20th, 2012, 05:57 AM
I would actually completely rework Maria's serve. There should be a lot more wrist in it, try and make it so that it's the same toss for each serve. A woman of her height could have such a better serve. I really don't get why virtually every female player is happy to have a make-do or just downright awful service motion.

Get her to come into the net and hit legitimate swinging volleys again.

Lachy
Dec 20th, 2012, 06:09 AM
I'd start with Maria's mental game. Just jumping out from around corners with big posters of Serena constantly should do the trick. Girl needs to stop being such a mental midget against her :lol:

Leo St
Dec 20th, 2012, 01:31 PM
LOL shock treatment.. make everyone dress as serena and bully her.. shed come to the matches on fire

edit: she can use wozniacki's help on that one lol!

binky-GOAT
Dec 20th, 2012, 01:41 PM
To 90 percent of WTA:

- Get a better forehand, learn to hit with spin.

- Get rid of that ugly service motion.

- Learn to volley!

- Stop sucking!!!!

VishaalMaria
Dec 21st, 2012, 02:14 AM
I'd start with Maria's mental game. Just jumping out from around corners with big posters of Serena constantly should do the trick. Girl needs to stop being such a mental midget against her :lol:

So I think the question is: What can Maria improve/add in her game to be competitive against Serena/beat her?

As, IMHO, even when Maria is hitting the ball well and really trying, Serena can still out-match her. Look at this years YEC, there was such a descrepancy between Maria's and Serena's effort levels.

The Dawntreader
Dec 21st, 2012, 02:18 AM
Serena


- to move her feet for more than 3 matches in a calendar year.

- Hit through her backhand consistently, and not get prone to passively placing it CC.

VishaalMaria
Dec 21st, 2012, 02:20 AM
Venus:

1. Stand back with the ROS. She needs to learn that her ROS isn't that good (and her reaction isn't so quick) for her to be standing so far in, and dumping the ball into the net/beyond the baseline/mis-hitting. She does that, gifts free points to her opponent (making it easier for them to hold), and then buckles under the pressure of her own serve.

2. Learn to hit behind opponents and not just blast the ball in the open court; happened so many times against players like Clijsters, Jankovic, and more recently Kerber. They are used to it, and so is Venus it seems.

3. Be clever and study the weaknesses in your opponents game i.e. don't be too stubborn into thinking that your game is good enough to implement and win. It's not.

JarkaFish
Dec 21st, 2012, 02:26 AM
So I think the question is: What can Maria improve/add in her game to be competitive against Serena/beat her?

As, IMHO, even when Maria is hitting the ball well and really trying, Serena can still out-match her. Look at this years YEC, there was such a descrepancy between Maria's and Serena's effort levels.

If she had the big serve someone her size should, she'd stand a chance methinks.

Without that huge asset she's hopeless I'm afraid.

VishaalMaria
Dec 21st, 2012, 02:28 AM
If she had the big serve someone her size should, she'd stand a chance methinks.

Without that huge asset she's hopeless I'm afraid.

I think she needs Serena to come down a few pegs.

Vespertine69
Dec 21st, 2012, 02:33 AM
Chakvetadze -

1) mental - stop being a nutter and calm the **** down; a lot. This might take time.

2) volleys - with better putaways she'd win a ton more easy points that instead end up being a shitfest of needing 3 attempts to get the job done or flubbing into the net. (In fairness to Anna I think this is partly a confidence issue, her putaways used to be way more secure.)

3) topspin - when not in a super-accurate state of mind, please use some more spin and stop trying to hit ridiculously flat shots when playing badly; it never ends well.

4) footwork - some sort of Daddy Bartoli type evil regime to get her footwork back out of lazy "vaguely near the ball" mode.

5) dropshots - banned entirely, and made a fining offence.

6) more mental - it would need some more, for sure.

Incidentally, I would never have tried to tell Anastasia anything... because I'd have been quite frightened to do so. True story!

Stonerpova
Dec 21st, 2012, 03:58 AM
Serena: Come to net more, especially on quick surfaces. I was surprised, with her serve, that she didn't come forward more at Wimbledon.

Azarenka: Do something with your serve. Anything. Other than that she's a pretty complete player. Maybe flatten out the forehand a bit more, too. :shrug:

Sharapova: Come forward and (drive) volley more. Considering the depth on her strokes, she could use the drop shot a lot more as well. The serve is improving nicely so I won't go there.

Wozniacki: Start using a racket that gives her more weight of shot. The Yonex worked great because she was truly getting the most out of her forehand. It wasn't a huge shot, but it was deep and heavy enough where it was difficult for her opponents to attack.

Other than that most players are either being too impatient or too passive. The right balance of aggression and patience is rare on the WTA these days.

Aryman3
Dec 21st, 2012, 07:58 AM
More aces from the second serve
All her game moved 0,5-1 m. ahead
You guessed it right - that's for HER

King Halep
Dec 21st, 2012, 11:24 AM
Kvitova and Nastia lose 10kg

Lord Choc Ice
Dec 21st, 2012, 12:32 PM
Serena: Come to net more, especially on quick surfaces. I was surprised, with her serve, that she didn't come forward more at Wimbledon.



Her serve doesn't come back at Wimbledon most of the time, so why waste the energy? :devil:

Alejandrawrrr
Dec 21st, 2012, 02:54 PM
To 90 percent of WTA:

- Get a better forehand, learn to hit with spin.

- Get rid of that ugly service motion.

- Learn to volley!

- Stop sucking!!!!

Really though :lol:

Serena


- to move her feet for more than 3 matches in a calendar year.

- Hit through her backhand consistently, and not get prone to passively placing it CC.
ITA especially on the first point. We saw at Charleston she can be a downright demon when she's not being lazy and her footwork is clicking.

Break My Rapture
Dec 21st, 2012, 03:04 PM
Maria: Stop serving so predictably. 98% of the time Maria serves down the T on the Ad court, it was especially apparent during the US Open this year.

Victoria: Improve the serve and stop hitting FH drive-volleys, use the regular (much better) FH volley more.

ViennaCalling
Dec 21st, 2012, 04:57 PM
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MrProdigy555
Dec 21st, 2012, 05:03 PM
Do extensive footwork training with Serena. She makes a few shots more difficult than needed simply by having lazy footwork.

...that's about it...:shrug:

***and have her do some net work during the off-season.

ezone
Dec 21st, 2012, 06:04 PM
Serena---get to the net more often.
serve--racket goes into the back too soon; knees push up on serve while racket drops.

Ana--work with Dr. Jim Loehr. He did wonders with Sharapova, Agassi.

Kirilenko--cut back on her practice time during tournaments so she doesn't break down.

Kerber--serve (needs to get more easy points off her lefty serve).

Wozniacki--fitness and patterns. More inside out forehands to keep her opponents off balance. They often know where she is going with her shots.

Sharapova--time to settle down and have kids.

nazzac
Dec 21st, 2012, 06:14 PM
Slava.

Do something to get some mental strength. Anything it takes, because the constant choking takes the piss.

Work on getting more 1st serves in, because her serve is pretty big, but inconsistent. Would result in her giving opponents less free points with DF's, and give herself more free points. Would also help to close matches out on serve

MrProdigy555
Dec 21st, 2012, 06:14 PM
Sharapova--time to settle down and have kids.

:speakles: damn...