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Volcana
Dec 15th, 2012, 06:06 PM
I mean it. Why bother? Schiavone is listed at 141 pounds. Sharapova is listed at 130 pounds. If the information isn't reliable, why bother?

Excelscior
Dec 15th, 2012, 06:18 PM
I mean it. Why bother? Schiavone is listed at 141 pounds. Sharapova is listed at 130 pounds. If the information isn't reliable, why bother?

Schiavone could weigh 141 lbs. However, I highly doubt that Sharapova weighs 130lbs.

And like you: I think most of the listed weights are a complete waste of time, and highly laughable.

AnnieIWillKnow
Dec 15th, 2012, 06:40 PM
I think the player's team provide the info, so they could literally say whatever they want. Pretty sure the heights are mostly wrong as well.

August
Dec 15th, 2012, 06:43 PM
I mean it. Why bother? Schiavone is listed at 141 pounds. Sharapova is listed at 130 pounds. If the information isn't reliable, why bother?

Athlete's weight is always an interesting information. Another thing is how reliable WTA website is.

Sammo
Dec 15th, 2012, 06:50 PM
Agreed, totally unreliable and useless. It would be another story if they were constantly measuring their weight and uploading it to their profiles :lol:

kaoru-no-kimi
Dec 15th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Half the WTA clearly take after birds and have hollow bones (and/or haven't had their weights updated since they turned pro).

The weights listed for the top 10 players are pretty hilarious when you compare them:

Vika 66 kg
Maria 59 kg
Serena 70 kg
Aga 56 kg
Angie 68 kg
Errani 60 kg
Li 65 kg
Petra 70 kg
Stosur 65 kg
Caro 58 kg

Exordes
Dec 15th, 2012, 07:56 PM
If we can trust in the official WTA numbers, I made some calculations using metric system instead of feet and pounds. http://www.wtatennis.com/rankings

Here is Body Mass Index of Top 20 Tennis Players:
Victoria Azarenka: 66 kg : (1,83 x 1,83 m) = 19,7
Maria Sharapova: 59 kg : (1,88 x 1,88 m) = 16,7
Serena Williams: 70 kg : (1,75 x 1,75 m) = 22,9
Agnieszka Radwanska : 56 kg : (1,72 x 1,72 m) = 18,9
Angelique Kerber: 68 kg : (1,73 x 1,73 m) = 22,7
Sara Errani: 60 kg : (1,64 x 1,64) = 22,3
Na Li : 65 kg : (1,72 x 1,72 m) = 22,0
Petra Kvitova: 70 kg : (1,82 x 1,82 m) = 21,1
Samatha Stosur: 65 kg : (1,72 x 1,72 m) = 22,0
Caroline Wozniacki: 58 kg : (1,77 x 1,77 cm) = 18,5
Marion Bartoli: 63 kg : (1,70 x 1,70 m) = 21,8
Nadia Petrova: 70 kg : (1,78 x 1,78 m) = 22,1
Ana Ivanovic; 69 kg : (1,84 x 1,84 m) = 20,4
Maria Kirilenko : 61 kg : (1,74 x 1,74 m) = 20,1
Dominika Cibulkova : 55 kg : (1,61 x 1,61 m) = 21,2
Roberta Vinci : 60 kg : (1,63 x 1,63 m) = 22,6
Lucie Safarova : 62 kg (1,77 x 1,77 m) = 19,8
Julia Goerges : 70 kg : (1,80 x 1,80 m) = 21,6
Kaia Kanepi : 74 kg : (1,81 x 1,81 m) = 22,6
Ekaterina Makarova: 65 kg : (1,80 x 1,80 m) = 20,1http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_mass_index
Normal (healthy weight) is from 18,5 to 25.

Surely Maria Sharapova has to weight more than 59 kg?
http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/9499/title/maria-sharapova

Even Arantxa Rus [65 kg x (1,80 x 1,80 m) = 20,1 BMI] weights more than her according to those WTA statistics!
http://www.wtatennis.com/players/player/12579/title/arantxa-rus

Sammo
Dec 15th, 2012, 08:00 PM
^ I think Sharapova probably weighted 59 kg back in 2006 or so when she was still a teenager, her weight has been like that since then

Edit: her listed weight I mean

Excelscior
Dec 15th, 2012, 08:16 PM
^ I think Sharapova probably weighted 59 kg back in 2006 or so when she was still a teenager, her weight has been like that since then

I'm sure Sharapova didn't weigh 131 lbs--even back then (at 6'1"-6'3"), unless she was a walking bread stick.

Wert.
Dec 15th, 2012, 09:02 PM
Petra 70 kg



And boobs alone are like 10kg . :)

Mike_T
Dec 15th, 2012, 09:54 PM
Ana Ivanovic; 69 kg : (1,84 x 1,84 m) = 20,4
Typo. Obviously pounds, not kilos (= 31kg)

Jeff
Dec 15th, 2012, 09:56 PM
Even weight and height on broadcasts. I've seen Serena's height listed as 5'8, 5'9, and 5'10. Perhaps the height changes with altitude lol.

Cosmic Voices
Dec 15th, 2012, 10:44 PM
We discussed this over in SS a while ago, pretty sure Masha is at least 10stone or around about that figure, judging by her muscle gain over the past few years.
I wonder what Ana's is now in comparison to her 2008 figures?

Raiden
Dec 15th, 2012, 11:38 PM
Typo. Obviously pounds, not kilos (= 31kg)LMAO



Victoria Azarenka: 66 kg : (1,83 x 1,83 m) = 19,7
Maria Sharapova: 59 kg : (1,88 x 1,88 m) = 16,7
Serena Williams: 70 kg : (1,75 x 1,75 m) = 22,9
Agnieszka Radwanska : 56 kg : (1,72 x 1,72 m) = 18,9
Angelique Kerber: 68 kg : (1,73 x 1,73 m) = 22,7
Sara Errani: 60 kg : (1,64 x 1,64) = 22,3
Na Li : 65 kg : (1,72 x 1,72 m) = 22,0
Petra Kvitova: 70 kg : (1,82 x 1,82 m) = 21,1
Samatha Stosur: 65 kg : (1,72 x 1,72 m) = 22,0
Caroline Wozniacki: 58 kg : (1,77 x 1,77 cm) = 18,5
Marion Bartoli: 63 kg : (1,70 x 1,70 m) = 21,8
Nadia Petrova: 70 kg : (1,78 x 1,78 m) = 22,1
Ana Ivanovic; 69 kg : (1,84 x 1,84 m) = 20,4
Maria Kirilenko : 61 kg : (1,74 x 1,74 m) = 20,1
Dominika Cibulkova : 55 kg : (1,61 x 1,61 m) = 21,2
Roberta Vinci : 60 kg : (1,63 x 1,63 m) = 22,6
Lucie Safarova : 62 kg (1,77 x 1,77 m) = 19,8
Julia Goerges : 70 kg : (1,80 x 1,80 m) = 21,6
Kaia Kanepi : 74 kg : (1,81 x 1,81 m) = 22,6
Ekaterina Makarova: 65 kg : (1,80 x 1,80 m) = 20,1So it's a myth that Ana is too skinny?

TheBoiledEgg
Dec 16th, 2012, 05:15 AM
they only use the weight the players initially give to the WTA.
They could be 14 yrs old at the time- that weight is never asked for again.

JarkaFish
Dec 16th, 2012, 05:26 AM
they only use the weight the players initially give to the WTA.
They could be 14 yrs old at the time- that weight is never asked for again.

They should update every year.

Royals.
Dec 16th, 2012, 05:43 AM
They should update every year.

Exactly. They need to be more formative.

ShiftyFella
Dec 16th, 2012, 08:34 AM
Exactly. They need to be more formative.
there still would be possibility of not accurate info, during one of Kerber matches at USO, Carillo joked about her weight and why she never said that she few pounds lighter cause during good ol' days players never used to say real weight. i guess solution would be if WTA measured it and post it on website instead of asking team for info, tho it would be little over the top

C. Drone
Dec 16th, 2012, 10:43 AM
Everybody needs their fairytales.


Stay pressed.

Cajka
Dec 16th, 2012, 11:35 AM
If we can trust in the official WTA numbers, I made some calculations using metric system instead of feet and pounds. http://www.wtatennis.com/rankings

Ana Ivanovic; 69 kg : (1,84 x 1,84 m) = 20,4


According to WTA site, it's been 69 kg since 2007 or 2008. Before that she was listed at 73 kg.

Juanes
Dec 16th, 2012, 12:36 PM
i doubt that Ana has 69 kg actually.... it is surely less than on WTA profile...

Cajka
Dec 16th, 2012, 12:55 PM
i doubt that Ana has 69 kg actually.... it is surely less than on WTA profile...

I doubt that any of those weight information is correct. According to WTA, Caro weighs 58 kilos, while Safarova weighs 62 kilos, Venus weighs more than Petra, Pironkova weighs 6 kilos more than Sharapova (and she's 8 cm shorter), Halep and Mladenovic both weigh 60 kilos.

For example, Goerges is listed at 70 kilos and she's 180 cm tall and now we're supposed to believe that she's the same weight as Kvitova.

Exordes
Dec 16th, 2012, 01:54 PM
They should update every year.

WTA should probably use some kind of annual average weight because there are normal weight fluctuations. On the other hand there is no need for weight classes in tennis unlike in boxing or wrestling. I think tennis is relatively "democratic" sports like football, and there is a large physical scale of players at the current top 20 from Dominika Cibulkova to Maria Sharapova. But I doubt that WTA is too lazy to create more accurate statistics, and maybe the players want some privacy too...:D

Mistress of Evil
Dec 16th, 2012, 02:09 PM
Serena is 5'10 and 73 kg.
Maria should be around 66-67 kg.

miffedmax
Dec 16th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Like stats on male athletes are any more reliable?

Cajka
Dec 16th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Like stats on male athletes are any more reliable?

They are not completely correct, probably, but those numbers make more sense.

hablo
Dec 16th, 2012, 03:02 PM
That's what happens with athletes: they always have their height and weight listed?

Schiavone could weigh 141 lbs. However, I highly doubt that Sharapova weighs 130lbs.

And like you: I think most of the listed weights are a complete waste of time, and highly laughable.

No way does Schiavone weigh 141; I've seen her in person. She's tiny. :help:

Sharpie probably weighs like 180 lbs; she's 6'2 and is not a toothpick... :tape:

hablo
Dec 16th, 2012, 03:03 PM
They are not completely correct, probably, but those numbers make more sense.

Male athletes heights are often erroneous, especially if the athlete is considered short for a man (especially in hockey anyway)... :tape:

Cajka
Dec 16th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Male athletes heights are often erroneous, especially if the athlete is considered short for a man (especially in hockey anyway)... :tape:

I don't know about hockey, I took a look at ATP profiles, those stats look fine to me. It's a bit strange that Nadal and Fed are both listed at 85 kg, but Rafa is not as muscular as he was before 2009, so IDK.

hablo
Dec 16th, 2012, 03:16 PM
I don't know about hockey, I took a look at ATP profiles, those stats look fine to me. It's a bit strange that Nadal and Fed are both listed at 85 kg, but Rafa is not as muscular as he was before 2009, so IDK.

Have you seen them in person?

I agree with miffedmax on this. Those stats aren't quite accurate for male and female athletes.

Cajka
Dec 16th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Have you seen them in person?


Not only that, I also measured them, just like you did with Sharapova (since you know that she weighs 80 kilos). :weirdo: I'm just saying that ATP stats look MUCH more reliable. But I saw some athletes in nature, if nothing, they usually looked taller. Except for Fognini, he looks shorter.

Number19
Dec 16th, 2012, 03:53 PM
Sharpie probably weighs like 180 lbs; she's 6'2 and is not a toothpick... :tape:

180!? Don't ever become a weight guesser.

I think Sharapova's weight is about right. She's 130-140 lbs.

How do I know? I'm the same height and in that 130-140 range right now.

And I am male. :o

ZeroSumGame
Dec 16th, 2012, 04:01 PM
Serena is 5'10 and 73 kg.
Maria should be around 66-67 kg.

THIS!!!! I saw Maria, Serena, & Vika on the medal podium ...was shocked how small Serena looked of the other two. Height looks ok, but I think there's a lot of weight variation throughout a given year & the WTA needs to keep track. Hantuchova for eg is listed as 62kg, I think she's more than that prolly (65-66)

This thread actually poses a very good question cuz a player's weight is never the same & if not updated periodically, could be very misleading! So the WTA should update or altogether do away with listing player weights :cool:

hablo
Dec 16th, 2012, 04:37 PM
180!? Don't ever become a weight guesser.

I think Sharapova's weight is about right. She's 130-140 lbs.

How do I know? I'm the same height and in that 130-140 range right now.

And I am male. :o

Oh okaaay... And I bet you compete in pro circles too? :haha:

pav
Dec 16th, 2012, 05:16 PM
Like stats on male athletes are any more reliable?
They seem about right, ie. Fed. about 3" when excited
I chuckle at Bepa's given height when she stands beside some with the supposed same and is about 3or4" shorter,someone told porkies!

Number19
Dec 16th, 2012, 09:36 PM
Oh okaaay... And I bet you compete in pro circles too? :haha:

I have bigger shoulders, smaller hips, less fat, more ripped (and bony.)

She may be 150 lbs, but she's nowhere near 180. She's thin with not a lot of muscle mass.

http://pohdiaries.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/594868370.jpg

chingching
Dec 16th, 2012, 10:25 PM
Most of these players should be above the healthy range for BMI, because it doesn't weigh Muscle Mass :shrug:
Stosur and Serena really should have a MBI of around 27 :shrug:

CanIGetAWhat
Dec 16th, 2012, 10:29 PM
180!? Don't ever become a weight guesser.

I think Sharapova's weight is about right. She's 130-140 lbs.

How do I know? I'm the same height and in that 130-140 range right now.

And I am male. :oYes, Maria weighs less than Sara Errani. :tape: :help:

Number19
Dec 16th, 2012, 10:49 PM
Yes, Maria weighs less than Sara Errani. :tape: :help:

Errani is listed at 132 lbs. That would be the very least I think Sharapova weighs.

But maybe all the scales I've stepped on in the past year are wrong. Which is fine with me. But whatever Maria is - I'm right there with her.

Cajka
Dec 16th, 2012, 10:55 PM
180!? Don't ever become a weight guesser.

I think Sharapova's weight is about right. She's 130-140 lbs.

How do I know? I'm the same height and in that 130-140 range right now.

And I am male. :o

Goerges is 1.8 m tall and she's listed at 70 kilos. That seems realistic. And apart from boobs, Julia is slim. They are athletes, muscles are heavier than fat.

Novichok
Dec 16th, 2012, 10:57 PM
180!? Don't ever become a weight guesser.

I think Sharapova's weight is about right. She's 130-140 lbs.

How do I know? I'm the same height and in that 130-140 range right now.

And I am male. :o

OMG. You need to eat. :scared:

Cajka
Dec 16th, 2012, 11:04 PM
I have bigger shoulders, smaller hips, less fat, more ripped (and bony.)

She may be 150 lbs, but she's nowhere near 180. She's thin with not a lot of muscle mass.

http://pohdiaries.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/594868370.jpg

Maybe you do need to check your height and weight again. My bf is a few cm taller than Maria, he's a slim guy, but he weighs at least 85 kilos. Guys are usually heavier than girls even when they're very slim. So, even if you think that you're about the same size as Maria + you're a guy, there's no way that you weigh 60 kilos. I'm not sure I ever met a grown man that weighs 60 kilos.

hablo
Dec 16th, 2012, 11:48 PM
edit
Nvm: I see other posters have addressed Sharpie's weight... :lol:

madmax
Dec 17th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Big LOL at some tools here who think that just because Maria is 6'2, she must weight the same as a dudes too...:facepalm: I was skinny as hell as a teenager and about 3 inches shorter than Maria and yet my weight was still 71-72 kgs. Men are just much heavier than girls

Cajka
Dec 17th, 2012, 12:12 AM
All my very tall and skinny female friends weigh more than 59 kilos. And none of them is 1.88 like Masha. So, having in mind that + the fact that she's a pro athlete, I'd say that she has at least 70 kilos. I know that people usually think it's a lot for a girl, but that's an unusually tall girl. And she's slim anyway, so...

CanIGetAWhat
Dec 17th, 2012, 12:31 AM
Errani is listed at 132 lbs. That would be the very least I think Sharapova weighs.

http://www2.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Maria+Sharapova+Sara+Errani+2012+French+Open+2nERL bLIp5Wl.jpg

Just looking at this picture in height and build difference, yeeeah, Maria definitely weighs 2 lbs. less than Sara. :tape:

Dominic
Dec 17th, 2012, 12:43 AM
I think Maria is about 155 pounds

yoke
Dec 17th, 2012, 05:01 AM
I agree with the people listing Masha's weight at about 68 kg. But I cannot for my life understand why you guys think Ana should weigh less than 69 kg. No one knows the fact that she is 6'1... only about an inch shorter than Masha.

Lucyxx
Dec 17th, 2012, 05:16 AM
Well you have to list height, so why not weight? Really, is there any reason to even bring this up?

And seriously, BMI isn't a way to judge. The average 20 something guy is around Alex Ovechkin's and nowhere near the hockey player he'll ever be.

Россиа Священная BTW...

Trickle
Dec 17th, 2012, 05:25 AM
I think most nutritionists have always said that BMIs do not apply to athletes or people who are muscle toned. It's for the fatties and obsessed diet freaks paranoid about cellulite and stretch marks that should use it as an indicator of where they stand.

Excelscior
Dec 17th, 2012, 01:50 PM
That's what happens with athletes: they always have their height and weight listed?



No way does Schiavone weigh 141; I've seen her in person. She's tiny. :help:

Sharpie probably weighs like 180 lbs; she's 6'2 and is not a toothpick... :tape:

Oh, OK on Schiavone.

Yeah, Sharapova's definitely much closer to 200lbs at her height and figure, than 100. But of course most WTA players would never want you to see, hear or even think this. :lol: :eek: :lol:

Excelscior
Dec 17th, 2012, 01:50 PM
I think Maria is about 155 pounds

Hell No! :eek:

Excelscior
Dec 17th, 2012, 01:57 PM
180!? Don't ever become a weight guesser.

I think Sharapova's weight is about right. She's 130-140 lbs.

How do I know? I'm the same height and in that 130-140 range right now.

And I am male. :o

Wow, you must be shaped like Spagetti. :eek:

They're are very few men that most of us come across who are 6'2 and weight 130-140lbs. Wow! To be quite frank, I never met one (not saying you aren't of course).

On the contrary, there are a lot of thin, athletic 6'3" men who weigh 175-200lbs. Just saying.

And most 6ft women I've come across (unless spaghetti shaped with absolutely no meat or curves), were usually over 150lbs, and many even closer to 200lbs, with out being fat. Height adds weight.

Crater718
Dec 17th, 2012, 03:47 PM
They're are very few men that most of us come across who are 6'2 and weight 130-140lbs. Wow! To be quite frank, I never met one (not saying you aren't of course).



I think some of them can be found in boxing.

Excelscior
Dec 17th, 2012, 03:59 PM
I think some of them can be found in boxing.

You must not follow boxing then. :eek:

Most fighters at that weight (130-140lbs) are well under 6 ft.

Tommy Hearns and maybe Mark Breland fought Welterweight (147lb) at 6'2" and 6 ft earlier in their careers. However they were the extreme exceptions to the rule---as fighters at that height and weight, as in the general population.

Usually, the only men you find at that height and weight are string bean, bean pole skinny teenage boys. :lol:

NashaMasha
Dec 17th, 2012, 04:14 PM
Wow, you must be shaped like Spagetti. :eek:

They're are very few men that most of us come across who are 6'2 and weight 130-140lbs. Wow! To be quite frank, I never met one (not saying you aren't of course).

On the contrary, there are a lot of thin, athletic 6'3" men who weigh 175-200lbs. Just saying.

And most 6ft women I've come across (unless spaghetti shaped with absolutely no meat or curves), were usually over 150lbs, and many even closer to 200lbs, with out being fat. Height adds weight.

a pro boxer and former WBO champion Kelly Pavlik was 145-146lbs in the beginning of his career, now about 160lbs and he is 6'2 1/2"

Paul Williams(6'2") was boxing in welterweight either (146lbs)
Guillermo Jones -6'4" , his weight was about 147lbs

Volcana
Dec 17th, 2012, 04:27 PM
Well you have to list height, so why not weight? Really, is there any reason to even bring this up?The reason to bring it up is that it's bad intel on the a site that's supposed to give information.

Also, nobody forces the WTA to list heights. But at least those have some semblance of accuracy. The weight information is BS to the absurd. I get the players may be touchy about it. Why not just not put it there at all?

Excelscior
Dec 17th, 2012, 04:33 PM
a pro boxer and former WBO champion Kelly Pavlik was 145-146lbs in the beginning of his career, now about 160lbs and he is 6'2 1/2"

Paul Williams(6'2") was boxing in welterweight either (146lbs)
Guillermo Jones -6'4" , his weight was about 147lbs

How do you compare that to "130-140lb"?

Plus, that's still rare in boxing. And with those fighters--as you noted-- it's usually early in their careers, and it's hard for them to stay that way as they get older (mind you what they do to actually make the weigh in).

But using the professional boxing example as normal, would be like saying it's normal to see 7ft 300lb guys, that can run, jump, shoot, dribble and dunk a basketball with ease--walking around, just cause we see them on TV playing professional basketball.

But I hear what you're trying to say. And hopefully, you do I.

NashaMasha
Dec 17th, 2012, 04:48 PM
How do you compare that to "130-140lb"?

Plus, that's still rare in boxing. And with those fighters--as you noted-- it's usually early in their careers, and it's hard for them to stay that way as they get older (mind you what they do to actually make the weigh in).
.

Tall boxers who are champions in their weight are often offered big contracts for fights in heavier weights. Paul Williams could have been boxing his whole career in welterweight , so could Pavlik

145lbs for 6'2" - 6'3" boxer pretty normal weight , 130 - definitely not enough. But these guys have muscles

that's how looks 6'2" boxer who weighs 145lbs
http://www.livefight.com/images/pages/1184401530williams-weigh.jpg

Excelscior
Dec 17th, 2012, 04:52 PM
Tall boxers who are champions in their weight are often offered big contracts for fights in heavier weights. Paul Williams could have been boxing his whole career in welterweight , so could Pavlik

I can't speak about those fighters.

Historically, fighters who are much taller on average than others in their weight classes find it very hard to maintain those weights through out their careers, and is usually the main reason for them to move up (besides any monetary inducement). It just gets harder to make the weight as they get older and stronger, and it becomes a lifestyle issue.

That's what the phrase "growing into your body" or "fighting to make weight" usually refers to in boxing.

Sammo
Dec 17th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Venus has been listed as 72.5 kg since forever (long before the 2010 giant ass neglect), and she's always looked very slim. And Sharapova is taller than Venus :shrug:

Number19
Dec 17th, 2012, 06:33 PM
I shouldn't have brought myself into this.

But at the most Sharapova doesn't weigh much more than 150. People thinking she is closer to 200 is asinine.

140-150 is more realistic. As far as what the WTA site says: 130 was probably a few years ago. But that weight is possible at that height.

A bunch of years ago I had vertigo, lost my appetite and had insomnia for a few months. I look in the mirror one day coming out of the shower and went "Holy shit. I need to eat." Stepped on the scale, I was 121 lbs. I don't remember looking as bad as Christian Bale in "The Machinist," but I must have.

A year and a half a ago I was weighing 150 lbs in muscle. But my gym closed and unfortunately I lost it. I'm guessing I weigh around 130-135 right now. I do have ADHD and have had depression for years, which I'm sure account for my inability to put and keep weight on.

nelsondan
Dec 17th, 2012, 08:12 PM
The reason to bring it up is that it's bad intel on the a site that's supposed to give information.

The weight information is BS to the absurd, Why not just not put it there at all?

I agree..the site has some responsibility when information is inaccurate. I wonder if adding the year they acquired the information would be appropriate. I imagine Maria's people furnished it in 2004 or 2005. I would guess her at 155 now..2 inches of height, very powerful, well toned muscles on her arms and legs, and broader shoulders.

There are two sites which disagree about her weight...one says 130, the other says 165. Both list her measurements as 32.5/ 24/ 34. I think they are more appropriately healthy than that. sorry wow-wow

Excelscior
Dec 17th, 2012, 08:24 PM
I think many of you have no idea what a 6'2"-3" woman weighs.

As been pointed out: If the diminutive Sara Errani weighs 133lbs, why in the world would some of you believe that Sharapova is anything close to 140lbs. Did you look at the picture? Sharapova would have to be Spaghetti to weigh 140lbs at her height.

The irony is, no one has a problem saying that the 5'9-10" Serena Williams weighs 160, 165, 175-180lbs (when she really looked big), but at the same time Sharapova can't be more than 140lbs--even though someone here mentioned they were surprised to see how much bigger Sharapova appeared when standing next to Serena. That's insane. LOL

Height can be deceptive. Though a taller player may appear slimmer: They can have the same sized limbs, torso and girth of someone considerably shorter. Of course they will appear thinner. But they will also weight more; sometimes considerably more.

I'm done on the subject though. It's not just about Sharapova or WTA players in general. I find some of us are just clueless to what womens weights are--relative to their heights; especially when they're athletes (more muscle mass than the average woman).

Cajka
Dec 18th, 2012, 06:12 AM
Tall boxers who are champions in their weight are often offered big contracts for fights in heavier weights. Paul Williams could have been boxing his whole career in welterweight , so could Pavlik

145lbs for 6'2" - 6'3" boxer pretty normal weight , 130 - definitely not enough. But these guys have muscles

that's how looks 6'2" boxer who weighs 145lbs
http://www.livefight.com/images/pages/1184401530williams-weigh.jpg

So my slim boyfriend weighs much more than pro boxers who are only slightly shorter than him? Something's seriously wrong with this picture.

asdas
Dec 18th, 2012, 07:51 AM
they should review once in 3years, simultaneously with profile picture. :devil:

Cp6uja
Dec 18th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Maria Sharapova: 59 kg : (1,88 x 1,88 m)
Serena Williams: 70 kg : (1,75 x 1,75 m)
Marion Bartoli: 63 kg : (1,70 x 1,70 m)
Ana Ivanovic; 69 kg : (1,84 x 1,84 m)
So... Ana needs to lose another 10 kilos :scratch:

sweetadri06
Dec 18th, 2012, 11:38 AM
Maria is tall so that adds weight but she's also slim, i'd say she's around 140-150 pds like many here are saying.

chuvack
Dec 18th, 2012, 12:00 PM
I mean it. Why bother? Schiavone is listed at 141 pounds. Sharapova is listed at 130 pounds. If the information isn't reliable, why bother?


I agree with this, despite Schiavone is not really the best example (Sharapova can't possibly weigh less than 80 kg, i.e. 175 pounds).

This is just one more way that the WTA disrespects its public. The WTA's general attitude to the fans is "shut up and eat whatever disinformation we feed you". The weight listings should be removed if they can't be reasonably accurate.

Volcana
Dec 18th, 2012, 12:53 PM
180!? Don't ever become a weight guesser.Based on my (few) female friends roughly that height and build, 180 is a pretty good guess. But any given players weight isn't the issue. Why should the WTA even put bad info on the site? It's not tennis information. Who really needs it?

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 02:19 PM
Maria is tall so that adds weight but she's also slim, i'd say she's around 140-150 pds like many here are saying.


Maria's probably not as slim as you think she is. Her height (stature) just makes her appear that way. This is what confuses so many people.

If you were to squish Maria's height--down to 5'7", you wouldn't think she was so skinny anymore.

Based off of women I've come across--similar to Maria's size, 140-150-lbs, just doesn't sound right/accurate, at all.

But hey, we're all entitled to our opinions and perceptions.

chuvack
Dec 18th, 2012, 02:22 PM
I shouldn't have brought myself into this.

But at the most Sharapova doesn't weigh much more than 150. People thinking she is closer to 200 is asinine.




No. Asinine is insisting that a big, strong female professional athlete with a height of 190 centimeters only weighs 65 kg.

Professional womens volleyball players with height similar to Sharapova routinely weigh around 85-90 kg or 190-200 pounds. Masha's physique is not so different from those volleyball players.

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 02:32 PM
No. Asinine is insisting that a big, strong female professional athlete with a height of 190 centimeters only weighs 65 kg.

Professional womens volleyball players with height similar to Sharapova routinely weigh around 85-90 kg or 190-200 pounds. Masha's physique is not so different from those volleyball players.

Bingo!!

This is all an exercise in vanity to protect their faves.

And obviously, the WTA feels the same--by not updating or listing the proper weights to begin with.

I don't have a problem with that (not listing the proper height and weights), cause I understand why they do it. I just find it humorous [though], some fans don't realize or admit what they're currently/actually doing. :lol:

madmax
Dec 18th, 2012, 02:37 PM
You guys are completely insane for suggesting that Maria weighs anywhere near 180 lbs:haha:
Not like I care about her weight since she looks great anyway, but suggesting that fit slim female should weigh the same as a muscular dude of the same height is totally absurd...

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 02:46 PM
You guys are completely insane for suggesting that Maria weighs anywhere near 180 lbs:haha:
Not like I care about her weight since she looks great anyway, but suggesting that fit slim female should weigh the same as a muscular dude of the same height is totally absurd...

No one's comparing her to muscular dudes (though they came up). We're comparing her to other "fit, slim, female" athletes (or people we know) of similar height and build. And none of them weigh anything close to 140lbs. That's what some of us are saying.

sweetadri06
Dec 18th, 2012, 03:06 PM
No one's comparing her to muscular dudes (though they came up). We're comparing her to other "fit, slim, female" athletes (or people we know) of similar height and build. And none of them weigh anything close to 140lbs. That's what some of us are saying.

I could see 160 but 180 is pushing it.

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 03:17 PM
I could see 160 but 180 is pushing it.

That's possible (160lbs). However, it wouldn't surprise me if she weighed closer to 180lbs (170-175) as well.

Most 5'8" women that I knew--with normal builds, weighed around 160lbs.

Remember, Masha is slim; but she's not skinny. She has a decent sized lower body. And of course, she's almost 6'3". That makes a big difference. And she has to have strong or dense bone to carry that frame and weight--with out frequent injury as well.

We gotta keep all those things in mind.

sweetadri06
Dec 18th, 2012, 03:29 PM
That's possible (160lbs). However, it wouldn't surprise me if she weighed closer to 180lbs (170-175) as well.

Most 5'8" women that I knew--with normal builds, weighed around 160lbs.

Remember, Masha is slim; but she's not skinny. She has a decent sized lower body. And of course, she's almost 6'3". That makes a big difference. And she has to have strong or dense bone to carry that frame and weight--with out frequent injury as well.

We gotta keep all those things in mind.

I am keeping everything in mind. I was looking at one of those vollyball players, Kerry Walsh- Jennings who is 6'2 and weighs 157 pounds. Maria can't weigh much more than that, so that is why i'm saying 180 is too much, don't forget she is a woman not a man.

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 03:44 PM
I am keeping everything in mind. I was looking at one of those vollyball players, Kerry Walsh- Jennings who is 6'2 and weighs 157 pounds. Maria can't weigh much more than that, so that is why i'm saying 180 is too much, don't forget she is a woman not a man.


Ahem.

Many beach volley ball players lie about their weight as well. :lol:

As the other poster noted, many traditional/Indoor Volley ball players around Masha's size (when their honest) are closer to 200 than 150lbs.

If we're talking about those two Champion US BEACH VOLLEY BALL PLAYERS, that NBC couldn't get off my DAMN TV during the Olympics (where Kerri Walsh was one), I think she weighs more than 157, to be quite honest....Like tennis, there's a certain amount of glamour to Beach Volley ball (as opposed to regular volleyball), so they can tweak their weights as well. :lol:

Those were two leggy, relatively bottom heavy, big girls, similar to Sharapova's build--like you said. Now, you said they listed her at 157lbs? OK. So that means she's probably 170lbs, and she looks it. But at least we're closer now, at 160lbs. :lol:

bjurra
Dec 18th, 2012, 03:52 PM
If WTA cant produce believable stats, they shouldnt produce any stats at all.

miffedmax
Dec 18th, 2012, 03:57 PM
They seem about right, ie. Fed. about 3" when excited
I chuckle at Bepa's given height when she stands beside some with the supposed same and is about 3or4" shorter,someone told porkies!

A lot of male athletes (maybe not ATP) exaggerate their height and weight.

I knew guys on who played football for my college (one of whom later played pro) who claimed to be 6'0 and they were lucky if they were 5'10". And we used to do "meet and greet" things with FC Dallas when my older kid was playing soccer, and again, there were a lot of 5'10 and 5'11 6-footers.

Cajka
Dec 18th, 2012, 04:06 PM
As the other poster noted, many traditional/Indoor Volley ball players around Masha's size (when their honest) are closer to 200 than 150lbs.


I checked that on Wikipedia. They are mostly listed at 160-180. 160 and 170 is more often than 180.

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 04:26 PM
I checked that on Wikipedia. They are mostly listed at 160-180. 160 and 170 is more often than 180.

Key words being "when they're honest".

In athletics/sports, WOMEN tend to minimize their weight and under emphasize height. While their male counterparts, tend to exaggerate their height--especially and weight (if it's beneficial), unless they're fat.

Now, since you looked it up. You notice the difference between the listed weights of Volleyballers compared to tennis players of similar size? There's still a huge discrepancy, which makes the tennis players listing virtually not credible. :lol:

And I'm sure many of those volley ball listings are old, unedited and exaggerated, so it just gives you an idea, how totally worthless the tennis ones are.

Like I said: I don't mind, cause I played sports and Know The Deal. It is what it is (Men exaggerate height and weight; women minimize it--in general). I'm just surprised so many others don't realize it.

sweetadri06
Dec 18th, 2012, 04:51 PM
Key words being "when they're honest".

In athletics/sports, WOMEN tend to minimize their weight and under emphasize height. While their male counterparts, tend to exaggerate their height--especially and weight (if it's beneficial), unless they're fat.

Now, since you looked it up. You notice the difference between the listed weights of Volleyballers compared to tennis players of similar size? There's still a huge discrepancy, which makes the tennis players listing virtually not credible. :lol:

And I'm sure many of those volley ball listings are old, unedited and exaggerated, so it just gives you an idea, how totally worthless the tennis ones are.

Like I said: I don't mind, cause I played sports and Know The Deal. It is what it is (Men exaggerate height and weight; women minimize it--in general). I'm just surprised so many others don't realize it.

If anyone still thinks Maria is 130 pounds, they're dreaming. lol

Exordes
Dec 18th, 2012, 04:56 PM
A lot of male athletes (maybe not ATP) exaggerate their height and weight.


I guess many men would like to be a little bit taller and many women would like to be a little bit slimmer than their actual measurements are. In the limits of normal health, of course.

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 05:48 PM
If anyone still thinks Maria is 130 pounds, they're dreaming. lol

Yes! That's something any sensible observer could agree with!! :lol: :yeah: :lol:

pav
Dec 18th, 2012, 05:55 PM
A lot of male athletes (maybe not ATP) exaggerate their height and weight.

I knew guys on who played football for my college (one of whom later played pro) who claimed to be 6'0 and they were lucky if they were 5'10". And we used to do "meet and greet" things with FC Dallas when my older kid was playing soccer, and again, there were a lot of 5'10 and 5'11 6-footers.
It is funny how many will state they are 6ft. when you can tell they are a bit below the seeming benchmark, although kids are surely getting taller as time goes on,better tucker I suppose!

nelsondan
Dec 18th, 2012, 07:03 PM
If the wta wanted to have one person, (the official goddess of weight), write in their best guess for the top 100 players once a year, that might not be more accurate....but it might be interesting. There could even be an official "no way I weigh that much" correction scale made available.

dragonflies
Dec 18th, 2012, 07:10 PM
a pro boxer and former WBO champion Kelly Pavlik was 145-146lbs in the beginning of his career, now about 160lbs and he is 6'2 1/2"

Paul Williams(6'2") was boxing in welterweight either (146lbs)
Guillermo Jones -6'4" , his weight was about 147lbs





Gosh, why do people need to distort stats to make an argument? :help:

I just googled that name you provided and what came up was :

GuillermoJones


http://www.boxnation.com/media/109955/guillermo_jones_2_featureCrop.jpg

Date of Birth: 5th May 1972
Class: Cruiserweight
Weight: 197lbs
Reach: 76in (193cm)
Height: 6ft 4in (193cm)


He would not be happy when you subtracted 50 lbs off his actual weight.


Another matter that's worth mentioned is : In most of the sports that involved competing in divided weights like boxers, weight lifting, judos, martial arts, etc.. there is a very well known fact that most of the athletics are actually weight around 10 to 20 lbs more than their competing weights. When the competition came, they will go through an extended trainning process called " shrinking, pushing" which involved heavy trainning in wearing special clothing that would eliminate excess water and burn fat. At the end of the rigorous training, they will shed off 10 to 20lbs off their normal weights before the weight test in order to compete in the weight ranked that they wanted to ( to have an advantage in competing with smaller opponents). So it's safe to add lbs to the competing weight of an athletic if you want to have their regular weights.




Sharapova would probably weight around 160 - 175 lbs imo, giving her height and muscle mass. That's not fat by any means, so her fans don't need to drag down her weight and afraid people might think she is overweight which she is not.

dragonflies
Dec 18th, 2012, 07:24 PM
So... Ana needs to lose another 10 kilos :scratch:



Ana has only skins and bones now and she outweights Maria by 10 kilos? :eek:

hablo
Dec 18th, 2012, 08:57 PM
I think many of you have no idea what a 6'2"-3" woman weighs.

As been pointed out: If the diminutive Sara Errani weighs 133lbs, why in the world would some of you believe that Sharapova is anything close to 140lbs. Did you look at the picture? Sharapova would have to be Spaghetti to weigh 140lbs at her height.

The irony is, no one has a problem saying that the 5'9-10" Serena Williams weighs 160, 165, 175-180lbs (when she really looked big), but at the same time Sharapova can't be more than 140lbs--even though someone here mentioned they were surprised to see how much bigger Sharapova appeared when standing next to Serena. That's insane. LOL

Height can be deceptive. Though a taller player may appear slimmer: They can have the same sized limbs, torso and girth of someone considerably shorter. Of course they will appear thinner. But they will also weight more; sometimes considerably more.

I'm done on the subject though. It's not just about Sharapova or WTA players in general. I find some of us are just clueless to what womens weights are--relative to their heights; especially when they're athletes (more muscle mass than the average woman).

I agree with this, despite Schiavone is not really the best example (Sharapova can't possibly weigh less than 80 kg, i.e. 175 pounds).

This is just one more way that the WTA disrespects its public. The WTA's general attitude to the fans is "shut up and eat whatever disinformation we feed you". The weight listings should be removed if they can't be reasonably accurate.

Based on my (few) female friends roughly that height and build, 180 is a pretty good guess. But any given players weight isn't the issue. Why should the WTA even put bad info on the site? It's not tennis information. Who really needs it?

No. Asinine is insisting that a big, strong female professional athlete with a height of 190 centimeters only weighs 65 kg.

Professional womens volleyball players with height similar to Sharapova routinely weigh around 85-90 kg or 190-200 pounds. Masha's physique is not so different from those volleyball players.

Finally some reason!!!
Sharpie is super tall; 180 lbs would not be too much for her frame. :shrug:

faboozadoo15
Dec 18th, 2012, 09:28 PM
As the other poster noted, many traditional/Indoor Volley ball players around Masha's size (when their honest) are closer to 200 than 150lbs.


That may well be ight, but Sharapova isn't built like most indoor volleyball players or basketball players.

I bet players like Sabine Lisicki or peak Pierce outweigh her by a load.

Number19
Dec 18th, 2012, 09:32 PM
#20 Busra Cansu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%BC%C5%9Fra_Cansu) 6'2" 180 lbs

http://binaryapi.ap.org/d9c492bc86e94ef48d0eaf55650185e5/512x.jpg

Looks a little different than Maria's body. ;)

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 10:04 PM
#20 Busra Cansu (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%BC%C5%9Fra_Cansu) 6'2" 180 lbs

http://binaryapi.ap.org/d9c492bc86e94ef48d0eaf55650185e5/512x.jpg

Looks a little different than Maria's body. ;)

Mmmmh. Not that much different.

I see some Sharapova lovers don't want to give up, despite the mounting evidence. :lol:

Nonetheless Ms. [Busra] Cansu may actually weigh 190 or 200lbs, making Sharapova 180lbs again. Sorry. :lol:

Seriously; I wonder what the young lady to the right of Ms. Cansu is listed? She looks exactly Maria size up top (and has a thinner lower body). If that's Neslihan Demir Darnel; she's listed as 6'1-2" (1.85-7 m), 160lbs. Give her 5-10 more pounds on her lower body, and Whala, she's 170lbs. Give her an extra inch (if she's closer to 6'1" now), then she's 175-180lbs. You get the picture. And that's just going off of her "listed" heights and weight.

So you lose; wrong again. :) :lol: :) And before you respond: Darnelis is listed at 187 m, 160lbs on Wikipedia's Turkish Ladies Volleyball team entry. And she's listed as 1.85 m, 160lbs on her individual entry; whose bio may be older and less up to date than the team one.

The bottom line is: Whether Maria is 160; 190lbs or somewhere in between; she's no where close to being the 130lbs listed on the WTA website, or the 140lbs--loyal fans--like you--would want us to believe.

Note: Thanks Jarka Fish on Ms. Darnel's identity above.

JarkaFish
Dec 18th, 2012, 10:09 PM
The girl to the right is Neslihan Darnel.

sweetadri06
Dec 18th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Mmmmh. Not that much different.

I see some Sharapova lovers don't want to give up, despite the mounting evidence. :lol:

Nonetheless Ms. [Busra] Cansu may actually weigh 190 or 200lbs, making Sharapova 180lbs again. Sorry. :lol:

Seriously; I wonder what the girl to the right of Ms. Cansu is listed? She looks exactly Maria size up top (and has a thinner lower body). If that's Neriman Ozsoy, she's listed as 6'2", 170lbs. Give her 5-10 more pounds on her lower body, and Whala, she's 180lbs.

So you lose, wrong again. :) :lol: :) And before you respond: Ozsoy is listed at 170lbs on Wikipedia's Turkish Ladies Volleyball team entry. And she's listed as 160lbs on her individual entry, which appears older and less up to date than the team one.

The bottom line is: Whether Maria is 160; 190lbs or somewhere in between; she's no where close to being the 130lbs listed on the WTA website, or the 140lbs--loyal fans--like you--would want us to believe.

And there is nothing wrong with Maria being 160-170, she's healthy and at the right weight for her height. This is not an Ivanovic situation (who probably weighs 120-130 pounds, which would is underweight for her height).

Excelscior
Dec 18th, 2012, 10:31 PM
And there is nothing wrong with Maria being 160-170, she's healthy and at the right weight for her height. This is not an Ivanovic situation (who probably weighs 120-130 pounds, which would is underweight for her height).

Agreed.

There's nothing wrong with Maria's size or weight. She's perfectly fine for her height.

And apparently, the young lady to the right, was Neslihan Demir Darnel, so I corrected the entry, and inserted the relevant info.

Stonerpova
Dec 18th, 2012, 10:37 PM
Why does it matter? It's not like any of them are telling the truth anyways :lol: