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Comebacksova
Dec 4th, 2012, 07:15 PM
She lost only 10 games reaching the RG final. Is this the record? :eek:

1 W Nicole Bradtke 6-1 6-0
2 W Maria-Francesca Bentivoglio 6-0 6-1
3 W Lori McNeil 6-0 6-0
4 W Amanda Coetzer 6-1 6-1
QF W Petra Schwarz-Ritter 6-0 6-2
SF W Steffi Graf 6-2 6-2
F L Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario 6-4 6-4

LightWarrior
Dec 4th, 2012, 07:34 PM
Being so dominant en route to the final and end up losing it must be a record as well. lol

L'Enfant Sauvage
Dec 4th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Even as someone who isn't a particularly big fan of her, that final hurts :sobbing::lol:

iHeartTroyBolton
Dec 4th, 2012, 07:38 PM
ASV GOAT :hearts:


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spiceboy
Dec 4th, 2012, 07:42 PM
Arantxa was lucky it rained during that final and the clay was incredibly slow :oh:

Comebacksova
Dec 4th, 2012, 07:54 PM
I'm so impressed the way she gave those beatdowns on clay. She must have been in really great form. It's understandable when someone did in on grass but on clay? Such amazing results. :hearts:

ASV :rolleyes:

@danieln1
Dec 4th, 2012, 07:54 PM
The most ridiculous ending in history from such Peak Form :facepalm:

Start da Game
Dec 4th, 2012, 08:00 PM
this is her real peak....

Juju Nostalgique
Dec 5th, 2012, 11:42 AM
I remember the French press calling her victories "à la Lenglen", another queen of bagels and breadsticks... :hearts:

But that final loss was coitus interruptus... Even more losing to ASV. :sobbing: She was destined to "balayer" her off the court and then... :weirdo:

Mr.Sharapova
Dec 5th, 2012, 12:03 PM
That final :hysteric:.

Yoncé
Dec 5th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Such dominance :rocker2: consistent beat downs like that are just phenomenal, especially on clay. Shame the final never really happened...

Beat
Dec 5th, 2012, 02:55 PM
so what you're saying is: ASV > peak pierce. right?

Morning Morgan
Dec 5th, 2012, 03:07 PM
ASV>Nervous Pierce in first French Open final

Sammo
Dec 5th, 2012, 03:08 PM
Poor Pierce, she should have erased Sanchez-Vicario from the face of the planet :facepalm: Thank God she won it in the end

Matt01
Dec 5th, 2012, 04:06 PM
Fortunately, Pierce revenged that loss by annihilating ASV in the AO final one year later.

hingis-seles
Dec 5th, 2012, 04:51 PM
Peak Pierce showed up on clay again, albeit not at a Slam. Her run in Charleston 2000 was ridiculous.

Steffibestever
Dec 7th, 2012, 06:05 AM
She lost only 10 games reaching the RG final. Is this the record? :eek:

1 W Nicole Bradtke 6-1 6-0
2 W Maria-Francesca Bentivoglio 6-0 6-1
3 W Lori McNeil 6-0 6-0
4 W Amanda Coetzer 6-1 6-1
QF W Petra Schwarz-Ritter 6-0 6-2
SF W Steffi Graf 6-2 6-2
F L Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario 6-4 6-4

Other than an out of form Graf, no difficult opponents until the final. McNeil sucks on clay, and Coetzer in 94 was a nobody.

*Jool*
Dec 7th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Poor Pierce, she should have erased Sanchez-Vicario from the face of the planet :facepalm: Thank God she won it in the end

I would have given a lot to have her win the 94 final and lose the 2000 one :sobbing:

Pops Maellard
Dec 7th, 2012, 11:43 AM
Pity she didn't win the title. In a way Stosur was the same at the 2010 French. She didn't lose so few games of course, but she overcame Henin-Serena-Jankovic...then lost to Schiavone :).

Wojtek
Dec 7th, 2012, 11:57 AM
Mary said that she didn't sleep whole night she was so nervous before final.

Steffibestever
Dec 7th, 2012, 02:50 PM
I would have given a lot to have her win the 94 final and lose the 2000 one :sobbing:

Me too, would have loved to see Conchita win a French, and sucks that Sanchez vulture could ever have 3 French Opens, no way she deserves that many.

hingis-seles
Dec 7th, 2012, 05:16 PM
I would rather ASV lose the 98 final instead of 94.

LCS
Dec 7th, 2012, 05:47 PM
Bottom line is: ASV>Peak Pierce. This calls for BOMBSHELLL!!!

Sammo
Dec 7th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Bottom line is: ASV>Peak Pierce. This calls for BOMBSHELLL!!!

Sanchez-Vicario overachieved for someone as ugly as her


I mean her game, her game was ugly

Betten
Dec 7th, 2012, 09:20 PM
:lol: ASV sure knew how to interrupt these dream runs, didn't she? Graf, Seles, Pierce, Serena... And all at the French Open too!

faboozadoo15
Dec 8th, 2012, 05:09 AM
I would rather ASV lose the 98 final instead of 94.

YES. It's unbelievable she has 3 RG titles, same as Monica. And none for Conchita.

spiceboy
Dec 8th, 2012, 01:51 PM
YES. It's unbelievable she has 3 RG titles, same as Monica. And none for Conchita.

Unbelievable? It's not like she randomly won those titles. She reached the semifinals 10 times there, played 6 finals. Won half of them. She was clearly at home in Roland Garros.

@danieln1
Dec 8th, 2012, 01:56 PM
:lol: ASV sure knew how to interrupt these dream runs, didn't she? Graf, Seles, Pierce, Serena... And all at the French Open too!

Pretty much this.

I would be the best ending if Monica had won that final after trashing then #1 Hingis in the SF.

hingis-seles
Dec 8th, 2012, 04:57 PM
I have nothing but respect for Arantxa despite the heartbreak in 98. As Steffica Greles put it she was "a warrior". To achieve what she did while contending with Graf AND Seles is amazing - what a mentality she had!

LoveFifteen
Dec 8th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Peak Pierce is so overrated. She couldn't even win the tournament against an opponent in the final with no real offensive weapons. Peak Pierce is good, but I'm sick of people acting like it was the most unbeatable tennis of all time.

thrust
Dec 8th, 2012, 09:08 PM
ASV>Nervous Pierce in first French Open final

NONSENSE! ASV was the better clay court player. Only Graf and Seles, at their best, were better.

thrust
Dec 8th, 2012, 09:11 PM
Peak Pierce is so overrated. She couldn't even win the tournament against an opponent in the final with no real offensive weapons. Peak Pierce is good, but I'm sick of people acting like it was the most unbeatable tennis of all time.

SO TRUE AND WELL PUT!

Matt01
Dec 8th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Peak Pierce is so overrated. She couldn't even win the tournament against an opponent in the final with no real offensive weapons. Peak Pierce is good, but I'm sick of people acting like it was the most unbeatable tennis of all time.


That player who lost the RG final in 1994 had nothing to do with Peak Pierce.
And as for that "opponent with no real offensive weapons": That is the same player who beat Graf and Seles in Slam finals (and has a positive H2H with Serena :oh:).

spencercarlos
Dec 9th, 2012, 12:43 AM
YES. It's unbelievable she has 3 RG titles, same as Monica. And none for Conchita.
Conchita winning Roland Garros, when she never beat Graf or Seles on clay. Good laught :lol:

spencercarlos
Dec 9th, 2012, 12:45 AM
Unbelievable? It's not like she randomly won those titles. She reached the semifinals 10 times there, played 6 finals. Won half of them. She was clearly at home in Roland Garros.
Arantxa was amazing at Roland Garros, so consistent performer. She could and beat everybody there.

spencercarlos
Dec 9th, 2012, 12:48 AM
That player who lost the RG final in 1994 had nothing to do with Peak Pierce.
And as for that "opponent with no real offensive weapons": That is the same player who beat Graf and Seles in Slam finals (and has a positive H2H with Serena :oh:).
Its easy to say you are not at your peak when losing but you are when you are winning.

That being said, you can go back and check Australian Open final 1995 and see the bunch of errors Arantxa made that day, while Pierce was on her game.

Funny that only a couple of weeks later "peak Australian Open winner" Pierce lost to Graf 62 62 at the Paris Indoors final.

terjw
Dec 9th, 2012, 01:10 AM
I remember that. I also remember them interviewing Graf after getting beaten like that. They were trying to get her to comment on howPierce was steamrolling everyone and had just done the same to her and that she was surely a cert for the title. And Graf simply said she was having a dream run and playing really well but the real test was if she can go on to keep playing like that. I don't ever remember Steffi lavishing praise on any player who beat her. But she was right that playing like Pierce had done in the FO up till then that year is one thing. Keeping that level up is another.

And of course it was not to be that she could keep that level up for the whole tournament. Although of course if any player was good at disrupting an opponent and making her opponent look bad it was ASV.

Juanes
Dec 9th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Peak Pierce is so overrated. She couldn't even win the tournament against an opponent in the final with no real offensive weapons. Peak Pierce is good, but I'm sick of people acting like it was the most unbeatable tennis of all time.

we are talking about peak, don´t we? Peak means the best tennis not the average performance.... ;) hardly you can count as peak the match where Mary lost...

Comebacksova
Dec 10th, 2012, 04:58 PM
I never seen ASV played in my life. I don't know how she was such a GOAT (10 SFs with 3 titles) at the French. :eek:

Miss Atomic Bomb
Dec 10th, 2012, 05:08 PM
So what you are saying is, Peak Pierce was straight setted by ASV?

jj74
Dec 10th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Pity she didn't win the title. In a way Stosur was the same at the 2010 French. She didn't lose so few games of course, but she overcame Henin-Serena-Jankovic...then lost to Schiavone :).

This must be a joke, are you seriously comparing Francesca with Arantxa.
Stosur was the clear favourite in her final, Pierce was not the favourite, Arantxa was consistently one of the best clay court players on the nineties (when top players actually were good at clay). Yes Pierce destroyed all her rivals, including a very sub par Graf, but on clay against an in form Arantxa the probabilities of end losing were very very high.

I know most people dislike Arantxa's game, and a lot of people here have a tendency to belittle her, but she was very consistent and mentally strong. She even has good h2h against the Williams, yes i know Serena and Venus weren't nowhere they will be after, but Arantxa was far from her peak too.
She didn't have the explosive tennis Pierce had, but she was far more consistent, and it's not a surprise she end having a better career

Olórin
Dec 10th, 2012, 06:23 PM
we are talking about peak, don´t we? Peak means the best tennis not the average performance.... ;) hardly you can count as peak the match where Mary lost...

That's the point. Peak Pierce is ultimately ineffective if she can't maintain form for less than two weeks and leaves for the most important match. That's just useless.

The Dawntreader
Dec 10th, 2012, 06:30 PM
That's the point. Peak Pierce is ultimately ineffective if she can't maintain form for less than two weeks and leaves for the most important match. That's just useless.

Might as well call her 'Novelty Pierce'.

SUPER
Dec 10th, 2012, 09:48 PM
She even has good h2h against the Williams, yes i know Serena and Venus weren't nowhere they will be after, but Arantxa was far from her peak too.

Yep. She beat Venus in RG2000 before her amazing streak that summer, although I didn`t see that match (and she played baaad in the SF:devil:). She also beat Venus and Serena in Sydney98. Not peak sisters, but it means something:p