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spiceboy
Oct 26th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Both teams losing their semifinal match will get $93,150 and 690 ranking points each.

I'm not against the $$$. In the end it is just a reward for having qualified as one of the Top 4 teams of the year. But awarding 690 points (winning a Premier gives you 470) for just showing up and losing a match it seems atrocious to me :facepalm:

Jorn
Oct 26th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Points follow the money, they are big in the YEC, but do they get $93K each?

spiceboy
Oct 26th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Points follow the money, they are big in the YEC, but do they get $93K each?

Prize money in doubles is always stated per team.
But they do award 690 points to all four players losing in semis.

If they have the money I'm fine if they want to give it away but I like to think that in order to get points (let alone 690) you have to earn them on court, not received them as an early Christmas present.

Uranium
Oct 26th, 2012, 05:04 PM
Doubles points are retarded in general.

Win one match in Tokyo, you get 225 points.

Lose a match in YEC, you get 690. While if you win one match you get a shit load of 1050. I mean I understand they try to keep the points the same as singles, but give me a break. They aren't trying to keep the money the same, even though for doubles it gets split in half between 2 people.

It's all a bunch of crap.

FORZA SARITA
Oct 26th, 2012, 05:19 PM
i didn't know YEC gives so many pts :eek:

Jorn
Oct 26th, 2012, 05:41 PM
1500p and 1.100.000 DKK, a million for the winners each, but same as userly...

Povin
Oct 26th, 2012, 06:45 PM
Maybe WTA wants more stable top players? So that they don't change every month. And these top 4 teams are awarded for being on top

Uranium
Oct 26th, 2012, 07:05 PM
^But when you don't make it the following year, your ranking tumbles as shown by Vania, Slava, Flavia, and Gisela.

dencod16
Oct 26th, 2012, 07:28 PM
I think it's fine, cause it's actually tougher to qualify in doubles than singles. They are rewarded for having such a good season. but i would have preferred a 8 team knock-out in doubles. and it makes up for that pitiful prize money, which i think is split between the teams.

*Jool*
Oct 26th, 2012, 07:46 PM
^But when you don't make it the following year, your ranking tumbles as shown by Vania, Slava, Flavia, and Gisela.
...and Kveta, and Kata :secret:

Freakan
Oct 26th, 2012, 10:49 PM
Yes.
Abi and Raquel were 1 match away from qualifying and that one Moscow SF loss basically means they won't get over 800 pts :o While Nadia and Masha will...

spiceboy
Oct 26th, 2012, 11:03 PM
Yes.
Abi and Raquel were 1 match away from qualifying and that one Moscow SF loss basically means they won't get over 800 pts :o While Nadia and Masha will...

Actually, Abi and Raquel were just one point away from the YEC as the Pliskovas had match point against Kirilenko/Petrova in Moscow first round :hysteric:

pwayne
Oct 26th, 2012, 11:27 PM
I prefer that the pts be chopped by half with money remaining the same as a reward for making the WTA Championships

Uranium
Oct 27th, 2012, 12:14 AM
...and Kveta, and Kata :secret:

Not really, they dropped like 5 spots each. The others plummeted down the ranks.

miffedmax
Oct 27th, 2012, 03:46 AM
I think it's usually accepted that starting a land war in Asia is the most retarded thing ever, but this is pretty stupid.

dencod16
Oct 27th, 2012, 04:07 AM
Yes.
Abi and Raquel were 1 match away from qualifying and that one Moscow SF loss basically means they won't get over 800 pts :o While Nadia and Masha will...

And they played twice as many tournaments as Nadia and Makiri, in doubles they count everything, that wouldn't be fair to the Russians TBH if they are competing against players that plays every single week.

Freakan
Oct 27th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Actually, Abi and Raquel were just one point away from the YEC as the Pliskovas had match point against Kirilenko/Petrova in Moscow first round :hysteric:

:hysteric:

And they played twice as many tournaments as Nadia and Makiri, in doubles they count everything, that wouldn't be fair to the Russians TBH if they are competing against players that plays every single week.

MASHA is another form of Maria :rolleyes:
Abi and Raquel already got screwed at the Olympics and in the 2nd part of the season they were playing top tennis, there wouldn't have been anything unfair about them advancing instead of Nadia and Masha who chose how many tournaments they wanted to play.

dencod16
Oct 27th, 2012, 01:34 PM
:hysteric:



MASHA is another form of Maria :rolleyes:
Abi and Raquel already got screwed at the Olympics and in the 2nd part of the season they were playing top tennis, there wouldn't have been anything unfair about them advancing instead of Nadia and Masha who chose how many tournaments they wanted to play.

Masha is not a for Maria is for MAria SHArapova. :rolleyes:
And how did they get screwed in the Olympics, Olympics don;t give out doubles points. Moreso Nadia and Makiri got screwed as they didn't earn any points from their bronze.

Slutiana
Oct 27th, 2012, 02:07 PM
Masha is not a for Maria is for MAria SHArapova. :rolleyes:
And how did they get screwed in the Olympics, Olympics don;t give out doubles points. Moreso Nadia and Makiri got screwed as they didn't earn any points from their bronze.
:spit:

Masha is the Russian diminutive of Maria. Same with Daria -> Dasha. It has nothing to do with Sharapova's surname and there's no such thing as a "Makiri".

Morning Morgan
Oct 27th, 2012, 03:17 PM
They should follow the ATP and have a 8 team round robin (even knockout draw is fine), and make the championships over 8 days, so that singles players have more rest time, with double matches filling in. Singles players have more time to recover and are happier, and better exposure for doubles.

Hurley
Oct 27th, 2012, 05:59 PM
Masha is not a for Maria is for MAria SHArapova. :rolleyes:

Looks like we have another rider of the Mashortbus.

Sisyphus
Oct 27th, 2012, 06:59 PM
They really should have more teams at the YEC. I mean to win such a huge amount of points for playing just two matches?

Uranium
Oct 27th, 2012, 07:10 PM
How were Abi/Rocky screwed out of Olympics? Only 2 American doubles players get in, and that was Huber/Raymond. The other pair is from singles.

Uranium
Oct 27th, 2012, 07:23 PM
Also, just to put points into perspective.

SF is 10 points less than the amount of points for making a Premier Mandatory Final, more than a Slam QF. Just for qualifying.
Final is 50 points more than winning a Premier Mandatory tournament and more than a Slam SF. Just for winning one match.
Winner is more than a Slam Final. For winning 2 matches.

duhcity
Oct 27th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Masha is not a for Maria is for MAria SHArapova. :rolleyes:
And how did they get screwed in the Olympics, Olympics don;t give out doubles points. Moreso Nadia and Makiri got screwed as they didn't earn any points from their bronze.

I can't even at this :lol:

Freakan
Oct 28th, 2012, 06:57 PM
Masha is not a for Maria is for MAria SHArapova. :rolleyes:

Master of trolling :o

CoryAnnAvants#1
Oct 28th, 2012, 07:00 PM
On British Eurosport, they said the doubles YEC will go to 8 teams in 2014 and play will start a day earlier to give the singles competitors more time to rest between matches.

Meelis
Oct 28th, 2012, 07:02 PM
On British Eurosport, they said the doubles YEC will go to 8 teams in 2014 and play will start a day earlier to give the singles competitors more time to rest between matches.

Yes, it was one of the things Allaster announced today. Round robin also.

Uranium
Oct 28th, 2012, 07:03 PM
Why not next year? To give more notice, Istanbul can't handle it?

Freakan
Oct 28th, 2012, 07:04 PM
How were Abi/Rocky screwed out of Olympics? Only 2 American doubles players get in, and that was Huber/Raymond. The other pair is from singles.

That's what I mean. It's like China in table tennis - players who had a shot at getting a medal couldn't even play because of the country limits...

Uranium
Oct 28th, 2012, 07:09 PM
On British Eurosport, they said the doubles YEC will go to 8 teams in 2014 and play will start a day earlier to give the singles competitors more time to rest between matches.

Yes, it was one of the things Allaster announced today. Round robin also.

The top 8 singles men don't play doubles enough to qualify. The women do. It will be way tough for a few of them to try to win both titles, 10 matches in 7 days. That's a lot. I like the bumping to 8, but not round robin so much.

Serenus, get that 2013 YEC title, so you don't have to go through this.

guichard
Oct 28th, 2012, 08:46 PM
The top 8 singles men don't play doubles enough to qualify. The women do. It will be way tough for a few of them to try to win both titles, 10 matches in 7 days. That's a lot. I like the bumping to 8, but not round robin so much.

Serenus, get that 2013 YEC title, so you don't have to go through this.
(I know it is for 2014) Perhaps just Errani and Serena will make both. The other top 10 singles players didn't play much/didn't have a lot of success in doubles

Z1988
Nov 12th, 2012, 06:02 PM
They should make YEC doubles a field of 8 teams...

Meelis
Nov 12th, 2012, 06:03 PM
They should make YEC doubles a field of 8 teams...

They will.

Z1988
Nov 12th, 2012, 07:59 PM
They will.

Starting in 2013? Cool!!

p.s: Sorry if this has been brought up before...

guichard
Nov 12th, 2012, 09:46 PM
Starting in 2013? Cool!!

p.s: Sorry if this has been brought up before...
2014