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Elwin.
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:07 PM
Esther was a break down in the 2nd set :oh:

Javi.
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:10 PM
469? WOW.
Now this is a GOAT player :worship:

eDonkey
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Esther was a break down in the 2nd set :oh:

Must be the end of an era. She shall just retire now.:lol:

Dodoboy.
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:13 PM
:lol: How are the other players so much worse than her? This is one of the oddest things in sports.

Sammo
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:14 PM
^ I agree, it never ceases to amaze me

dsanders06
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:15 PM
Now THIS is the real #1! :worship:

Dave.
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:16 PM
Does she even lose sets?!

Mr.Sharapova
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:19 PM
This is getting ridiculous.

Elwin.
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:28 PM
Esther on CNN. Nice interview
What really makes her stand out from the other players is that she's so motivated and trains really hard. She's only training with male wheelchair tennis players
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Tenis Srbija
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:34 PM
Serenka step away, Eshter is the GOAT :worship:

rrfnpump
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:41 PM
One of the most non-competitive sports in the world. total snorefest. :yawn:

do the womens wheelchair players get the same amount of money than the guys? :oh: #equalprizemoney

Sweety Darling
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:43 PM
469? WOW.
Now this is a GOAT player :worship:

That says more about the quality of her opponents. Totally pathetic.

ElusiveChanteuse
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:44 PM
Oh so no USO wheelchair tennis then this year?:o Bad scheduling.

Mynarco
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:44 PM
What a great woman :worship:

(Dutch people speak really good English :inlove: Amaze)

Kon.
Sep 5th, 2012, 01:50 PM
THAT's how you dominate a sport. :lol:

But seriously, it's very odd how no one can challenge her.
It's difficult to understand how there's such a huge gap between her and the rest players.

paul_masterton
Sep 5th, 2012, 02:03 PM
Esther says that the players are getting better, so she keeps training harder and raises her level.

The standard of opponent is much higher than a few years ago, but Esther was so far ahead to begin with (she was the first to really take it properly seriously) that they are always playing catch-up.

TheBoiledEgg
Sep 5th, 2012, 02:09 PM
true legend :kiss: :)

Tenis Srbija
Sep 5th, 2012, 02:09 PM
That says more about the quality of her opponents. Totally pathetic.

Or maybe she is just that good? Bombshell.

Trickle
Sep 5th, 2012, 02:12 PM
There is a lot more competition on the men's side. But Esther seems to be ruling the roost on the women's side that it looks like a joke. She basically bagels everyone she plays. It makes me wonder how she would fair on the WTA.

lenas warriors
Sep 5th, 2012, 02:54 PM
Thats a bit of a choke though no?! ;-)

Jane Lane
Sep 5th, 2012, 02:58 PM
GOAT of all GOATs :hearts:

Serenita
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:08 PM
:lol: Amazing woman!!

Serenita
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:09 PM
Or maybe she is just that good? Bombshell.
:worship:
She is the supreme goat.

wildemu
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:27 PM
One of the most non-competitive sports in the world. total snorefest. :yawn:

do the womens wheelchair players get the same amount of money than the guys? :oh: #equalprizemoney

embarrassing stuff from a moderator.

Sweety Darling
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Or maybe she is just that good? Bombshell.

No, just no.

Excelscior
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:47 PM
How old is she now (or it doesn't matter cause she's sitting down), with all due respect?

Nicolás89
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Wasn't like 4 years ago when she saved several mps on a match? She is a mental giant too. :lol:

RESPECT!

Sammo
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:51 PM
How old is she now (or it doesn't matter cause she's sitting down), with all due respect?

I think 31

Excelscior
Sep 5th, 2012, 03:59 PM
I think 31

OK. Thanks/Wow!

That's still young (especially when you're sitting down).

No wonder she's still kicking booty!

Good for her!

Sweety Darling
Sep 5th, 2012, 04:12 PM
OK. Thanks/Wow!

That's still young (especially when you're sitting down).

No wonder she's still kicking booty!

Good for her!

Patronising.

Tenis Srbija
Sep 5th, 2012, 04:24 PM
OK. Thanks/Wow!

That's still young (especially when you're sitting down).

No wonder she's still kicking booty!

Good for her!

In one way that's so :facepalm: but in other way you are kinda right. There are a lot of athletes at Paraolympic Games that are "quite old" in terms of sports.

Anyway, she is amazing. Just amazing!

Excelscior
Sep 5th, 2012, 04:28 PM
In one way that's so :facepalm: but in other way you are kinda right. There are a lot of athletes at Paraolympic Games that are "quite old" in terms of sports.

Anyway, she is amazing. Just amazing!

I know. But it's the only way I could say it.

31 is not even "old" for many regular tour players like Serena, Schiavone, Venus (with out her ailment) and Li Na now.

When you combine the wheel chair aspect; it makes sense that she could still be kicking ass. But Damn, 469 in a row is still 469 in a row.

More Power to her!!

Invisible Fan
Sep 5th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Even the ATP isn't that predictable :o

Travod
Sep 5th, 2012, 04:37 PM
Is tennis at the paralympics only for people in wheelchairs? Doesn't that discriminate against people with prosthetics?

Tenis Srbija
Sep 5th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Is tennis at the paralympics only for people in wheelchairs? Doesn't that discriminate against people with prosthetics?

It's called Wheelchair Tennis :shrug:

I know. But it's the only way I could say it.

31 is not even "old" for many regular tour players like Serena, Schiavone, Venus (with out her ailment) and Li Na now.

When you combine the wheel chair aspect; it makes sense that she could still be kicking ass. But Damn, 469 in a row is still 469 in a row.

More Power to her!!

I get it. It just sounded bad like "well sure she is kicking ass at 31 since she is sitting".

paul_masterton
Sep 5th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Is tennis at the paralympics only for people in wheelchairs? Doesn't that discriminate against people with prosthetics?

If you are an amputee you can play wheelchair tennis.

Blind tennis isn't developed enough to be in the game, and deaf athletes (the deaf tennis circuit is reasonably big) don't compete in the paralympics at all.

Beat
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:10 PM
Esther was a break down in the 2nd set :oh:

:eek: shocking!

Destiny
Sep 5th, 2012, 05:50 PM
No matter the opponents to keep winning requires so much detremination :worship: amazinggggg

edificio
Sep 5th, 2012, 08:55 PM
Hmmm. I think she's going to take the gold. :)

Mary Cherry.
Sep 5th, 2012, 09:04 PM
What a great woman :worship:

(Dutch people speak really good English :inlove: Amaze)

This :inlove: Every Dutch person I've ever met speaks better English than I do :lol:

Wintermute
Sep 5th, 2012, 09:11 PM
She's amazing! :worship:

Check this interview with her in the Observer (http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2012/sep/01/esther-vergeer-wheelchair-tennis-paralympics) last weekend:


The Dutch wheelchair tennis star Esther Vergeer has not lost for more than nine years but says a defeat would help the sport.

After swiftly defeating her opponent in the first match of the women's wheelchair tennis singles tournament, Esther Vergeer said wistfully: "I'm hoping that someday, somebody will beat me."

PhilePhile
Sep 5th, 2012, 09:22 PM
Wasn't like 4 years ago when she saved several mps on a match? She is a mental giant too. :lol:

RESPECT!

Not sure how many but it was "so close" said Esther Vergeer ( @ 4:29 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vpQvkAzWknE#t=268s) ):

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Wonderlander
Sep 5th, 2012, 09:26 PM
A true Legend.

Ziva
Sep 5th, 2012, 10:12 PM
looking at the Vid i would say dropshot followed by dropshot, followed by a short crosscourt, repeat and you are the Wheelchairtennis GOAT.

Seriously, they don't seem to actually use the fact that the opponenet can't cover the court fast enough, just baseline play.

Have to watch a complete match, very interesting how one can rule all the others like that for so many years.

edificio
Sep 5th, 2012, 10:16 PM
It may be rather difficult to get in good practice for wheelchair tennis. You need good, willing facilities and strong opposition/competition. Some places are better than others. The player also will need the time to practice and that may compound the difficulty of improving your game enough to compete with Esther Vergeer.

Whitehead's Boy
Sep 6th, 2012, 01:21 AM
I'd like to see a full match too.

I wonder if there's an unwritten rule that players should try to win by hitting the ball "normally" rather than hitting shots like sliced, junk shots, or hitting drop shots all the time. On grass a match could turn ugly quickly. Or maybe they're actually able to handle that?

VeeJJ
Sep 6th, 2012, 04:41 AM
This woman is fucking GOAT. Wheelchair tennis is 100x harder than real tennis IMO. You have to do so much more multi-tasking. Serena's dominance is some fucking sandbox shit compared to her. Take a seat.

MarkNL
Sep 6th, 2012, 05:41 AM
Esther saved 1 MP in the Paralympic final of Beijing against Korie Homan, so her streak could have ended there.
I'm happy it is still running though.

World No. 2 Aniek van Koot is the only one who has won a set against Vergeer this year in Pensacola when Vergeer won 6-3 6-7 6-2. Thats pretty much the only close match she played this year.

Also, she has played against Griffioen 50 times and she won all encounters. Only close match was in 2008 when Vergeer won 6-1 3-6 6-4. All other matches she won in straight sets and she didnt lose more than 3 games in each of those matches :worship:

It does amaze me how a player can be so much better than the rest.

Betten
Sep 6th, 2012, 07:40 AM
I'd like to see a full match too.

I wonder if there's an unwritten rule that players should try to win by hitting the ball "normally" rather than hitting shots like sliced, junk shots, or hitting drop shots all the time. On grass a match could turn ugly quickly. Or maybe they're actually able to handle that?

For one, the ball is allowed to bounce twice, so players have much more time to return the drop shot. Also, these players are in wheelchairs and much closer to the ground than us; it is probably more difficult for them to hit such a shot effectively at that height.

Buitenzorg
Sep 6th, 2012, 07:42 AM
forget about Serena, Henin, Venus, Clijsters, Sharapova, etc.....

Esther is a champion :hug:

Juju Nostalgique
Sep 6th, 2012, 10:26 AM
She's obviously an impressive athlete but there's something wrong in the competition when nobody except her get the big wins... :shrug:

chingching
Sep 6th, 2012, 11:01 AM
Most dominant athlete in the world right now :yeah:
She almost lost to Korie in Bejing (saved MP) :scared:
Since then I don't think she's lost a set :lol:

The Dutch really dominate the sport though :yeah:
BTW, is it on Grass :lol:

Fête_des_fleurs
Sep 6th, 2012, 04:09 PM
If you want her to lose during the next major you'll need the same winner's check as in wta tennis.

Wintermute
Sep 6th, 2012, 06:36 PM
BTW, is it on Grass :lol:

No it's on hardcourt. They built a new venue specially for the Wheelchair Tennis event.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 6th, 2012, 06:52 PM
I hope we see some ITFs at that Stratford facility after this.

misty1
Sep 7th, 2012, 01:38 AM
congratulations to her but as others have said i find it odd that no one has been able to really step up and win the big wins. Alot of her matches are rediculously one sided like this one and i guess the question is why?

how can she be so much better than everyone else..and whats going to happen when she's gone?

misty1
Sep 7th, 2012, 01:42 AM
If you are an amputee you can play wheelchair tennis.

Blind tennis isn't developed enough to be in the game, and deaf athletes (the deaf tennis circuit is reasonably big) don't compete in the paralympics at all.

wonder why

darrinbaker00
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:55 AM
Does she even lose sets?!

Are you kidding? These days, it's news when Esther loses more than two GAMES.

Kəv.
Sep 7th, 2012, 06:59 AM
Esther :bowdown: Shes so amazing! I wonder if she will ever get sick of winning :oh: I wonder what her reaction will be when/if she finally loses a match.

What if you just hit moonballs over your opponent? :oh:

dencod16
Sep 7th, 2012, 01:05 PM
:lol: How are the other players so much worse than her? This is one of the oddest things in sports.

It's because she has only left leg paralysis that gives her an edge over everyone else.