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Wiggly
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:13 AM
US Open diary : the anonymous world No1.
Simon Cambers

Victoria Azarenka is the women’s world No 1 and on the evidence of her outstanding display in round one at the US Open on Monday night, could well be a serious contender for the title this year. I know that sounds odd – surely the No 1 is always a contender? – but with Serena Williams considered such a big favourite, anyone else is an outsider. On paper at least. Azarenka was in full flow and when you remember that she won the Australian Open on hard courts at the start of the year, there is no reason why she should not go well again here.

Usually there is a massive clamour to speak to such players – Roger Federer’s press conferences are always packed out because he continues to be interesting, intelligent and relevant even after so many years on Tour. But Azarenka remains virtually anonymous, even within the press rooms around the world. On Monday, after her first-round win, instead of just announcing a time for her press conference, officials went through the press room asking if “anyone was interested in speaking to Azarenka”. The silence was deafening. That’s the world No 1. In the end, one or two stragglers must have come forward (perhaps a couple of Brits desperate to fill the awkward silence) and the Belarussian ended up in Room 2, a far smaller interview room.

The events here are nothing unique to New York. At Wimbledon last year, she did not have to do a press conference until after her quarter-final win and this year it was only one round sooner. It’s hard to explain exactly the reasons for the lack of interest in Azarenka but she does not do herself many favours. There is no problem with having an attitude if you at least consider questions and try to answer them in a decent manner. She has a tendency to come across a little cold, not interested in anyone’s questions and rarely gives answers that make you think she is being honest. In her defence, she has been criticised for her grunting an awful lot in the press, so perhaps she has just decided to give the media nothing as a result. The upshot of that – no one wants to speak to her and so no one knows anything about her. I wonder what her sponsors think about it.

http://www.thetennisspace.com/off-court/us-open-diary-the-anonymous-world-no-1/

*****

This is a serious problem for the WTA.
Hopefully Meilen Tu will tell her client to be attractive on the inside.

Just invent a silly story once in a while, fake a smile. You can do, Vika.

Break My Rapture
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:16 AM
Another shithead of a journalist hating on how she doesn't care AT ALL for these press conferences. :lol:

Silly.

sweetadri06
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:16 AM
Vika is a great player I don't know why people don't like interviewing her. Maybe if she didn't get beaten so badly by Serena and Maria than she would get more attention. But I doubt it. Those two are just the superstars of women's tennis and women athletes.

Boxuan
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:21 AM
She's been inventing stories and fake smiles for too long, give her a break!

dsanders06
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:22 AM
I have to admit it's strange. I really thought her profile would be higher by now. She's reasonably pretty, speaks good English, is fairly charismatic.... yet she seems even less well-known than Petra (who has far inferior English).

NashaMasha
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:28 AM
and attendance at her matches is rather small in New York

steni
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:28 AM
I have to admit it's strange. I really thought her profile would be higher by now. She's reasonably pretty, speaks good English, is fairly charismatic.... yet she seems even less well-known than Petra (who has far inferior English).

Its about personality and charm I think.

Martian Jeza
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:31 AM
Time to hack players their game Vika :devil:

Mynarco
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:49 AM
she seems even less well-known than Petra (who has far inferior English).

:confused: really?

duhcity
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:49 AM
I have to admit it's strange. I really thought her profile would be higher by now. She's reasonably pretty, speaks good English, is fairly charismatic.... yet she seems even less well-known than Petra (who has far inferior English).

I assure you, that's not true about Petra. Last year at the Open, after her Wimbledon win, she was eating in the regular food court at the US Open and no one recognized her.

Her english has improved as have her interviewing skills - you can tell she's been through some sort of media training. Plus, Petra's english has improved as well which helps. Vika will probably get the same kind of guidance this off season before she hits a press high again as the defending Oz champ.

I mean, a lot of the women on tour aren't particularly naturally conversational or witty, especially when english is not their first language. Li Na comes to mind as one who does have a naturally outgoing personality. Even with Maria, who probably has the most extensive media training, you can feel sometimes is not entirely comfortable.

Although sucks for Vika - she's quite right about not giving journos the time of day since she has always been ragged on for the grunting. If she doesn't go along with them, she gets articles like this written about her.

But if the media isn't going to promote her, then the WTA better get on it's ass and do it themselves.

KournikovaFan91
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:53 AM
I can see why she would have an attitude with the media since most of those journalists have probably been bashing her over the grunting.

Also agree that Kvitova isn't as well know as Vika, I mean British commentators might have you believe that but its only because she has won Wimby, the British tennis establishment is so Wimbledon focused it doesn't really give a shit about other slam winners.

supermod
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:02 AM
Not every player is able to get the attention of the public/media. I don't think that's a big problem.

Vika seems a bit bland. There is nothing interesting about her apart from her oncourt behaviour and grunts (and that doesn't make her very likeable at first glance).

Or at least it seems that way so far.

Wiggly
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:04 AM
Not every player is able to get the attention of the public/media. I don't think that's a big problem.

Vika seems a bit bland. There is nothing interesting about her apart from her oncourt behaviour and grunts. Or at least it seems that way so far.

Many bland players had the right management/kool-aid to be successful.
Nadal is as dull as it gets and yet he's the second most popular player around the world.

sxeraserhead
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:10 AM
Her background isn't unique and interesting, and her looks aren't smoldering. Her game also lacks charisma. She has a pretty typical personality for a woman her age and could have pulled off the Wozniacki girl-next-door persona if she was charismatic and genial enough on-court and with the press, which she isn't.

young_gunner913
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:12 AM
:confused: really?

Not at all. :lol:

edificio
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:15 AM
Seems like a failure of the tennis media. Surely they will find more to write about her if they talk to her. :shrug:

Roookie
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:18 AM
Its the WTA's fault tho, its their job to make the players looked more interesting. Instead of the embarrassing strong is beautiful campaings.

Rolling-Thunder
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:28 AM
Azarenka is off-putting, especially with her non-stop grunting on every shot. Honestly I would believe that plays a big roll in the public's reaction to her. The annoying sounds on every shot have gotten to be too much.

tennisbum79
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:29 AM
Its the WTA's fault tho, its their job to make the players looked more interesting. Instead of the embarrassing strong is beautiful campaings.
I don't think the WTA is in the business performing personality implant.

Are you saying the current capmpain does not fit Azarenka's personality?
Yopu want them to come with someting else that make Azarenka stand out? I don't think so.
The campaingn is about the entire WTA, players, all of the players, do their best to accentuate what the campaign goal is

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Melange
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:56 AM
Not every player is able to get the attention of the public/media. I don't think that's a big problem.

Vika seems a bit bland. There is nothing interesting about her apart from her oncourt behaviour and grunts (and that doesn't make her very likeable at first glance).

Or at least it seems that way so far.

She is the opposite of bland. She knows how to grab attention when she feels like it. She had the only interesting rivalry going in the first half of the season. At the moment she would rather have media conferences as small as possible, but at another time her team will try to create more interest

Belmont Lad
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:01 AM
She is shrieking harridan on court, who abuses ball kids and struggles to walk under the weight of the chip on her shoulder. Why would anybody be interested in interviewing her, she gives nothing but shrewish, flippant answers when someone dares ask a question. :shrug:

aloeball
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:29 AM
True fans and true tennis fans will appreciate her or their own favourites regardless of what the media thinks.

Fuck the casual fans who know jack about your favourites. I for one, don't give two fucks about what the media or casual fans who know nothing about the WTA think of my favourites. I'd take Vika over Caroline for no.1 anyway.

Let.them.talk
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:59 AM
1,2,3,999999 articles aren't going to transform mine or other Vika fans opinion... not supporting a player because some journalists don't like interviewing her (the same with other players) :lol: We are here to see tennis :)

ptkten
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:13 AM
I admit I'm a little biased because I'm a fan of hers but it does seem so strange to me that journalists are so disinterested in her. She doesn't seem any less charismatic to me than a lot of other top players that don't get this kind of criticism. Plus, by most accounts she's friendly with a lot of the other players so it's not like she's a hermit or anything. As a side note, I agree with those that Petra is probably even more anonymous than Vika. I don't think the average sports fan in the U.S. has any clue who she is.

thegreendestiny
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:31 AM
It's a conspiracy against her, her president and her country. :o

The media doesn't someone from Belarus to be the face of women's tennis. Much as Monica from Yugoslavia back then. :shrug:

faboozadoo15
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:35 AM
I assure you, that's not true about Petra. Last year at the Open, after her Wimbledon win, she was eating in the regular food court at the US Open and no one recognized her.

I call BS on this....

faboozadoo15
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:39 AM
And every journalist goes to Federer's press conference because they need some small snippet from him because he'll be in all their articles. Men don't have to be intriguing or charismatic to get the public interested. The public demand for Federer is really high EVERYWHERE, and that's why the journalists pack in there. I love Roger, but he's often quite boring and rehearsed. He's very gentlemanly and can be insightful though.

Serenita
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:46 AM
not surprising et all, doesnt have any charisma and is quit boring.
She doesnt bring anything extra for womens tennis. :shrug:

Serenita
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:46 AM
It's a conspiracy against her, her president and her country. :o

The media doesn't someone from Belarus to be the face of women's tennis. Much as Monica from Yugoslavia back then. :shrug:
Shut up fool:o

akosijepoy
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:54 AM
She just gives off a weird vibe - that of arrogance and being above everyone else. A little humility and friendliness will come a long way. She's a good player but she just doesn't quite have the X-Factor that Williams, Sharapova or even Wozniaki have.

duhcity
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:54 AM
I call BS on this....

Okay, I admit I remembered it wrong, she wasn't eating, but:

Jon Wertheim
‏@jon_wertheim
Just watched Petra kvitova - wearing an I d badge! - walk through food court totally unrecognized

https://twitter.com/jon_wertheim/statuses/110030560495276032

SkylerBlue
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:16 AM
Azarenka is from Belarus.That's the reason.
Those biased western journalists don't like her country.If she is from USA,she'll be far more popular IMO.

treufreund
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:34 AM
Well her game is really cookie cutter. Nothing creative about her game or her personality IMO. She lacks charisma of any sort and basically every interview I see with her she just seems to give very terse answers and never seems to smile or be warm at all. It's like she just has a negative energy and wants to go back to listening to her iPod or whatever. Just not very endearing. I do respect her results and all but I just think she does not come across likeable at all.

Yashal
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:25 AM
Well who cares? The number 1 shold be the better playere, or at least the player who won the most during the last 12 months according to rankigs criteria, not the most good looking one or the one who tells the best jokes.
I defenitely prefer her than some of the players who rechaed no. 1 in the last 10 years.
She has to be only who she is and if people don't like her, people can get lost :wavey:

Litotes
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:30 AM
US Open diary : the anonymous world No1.
Simon Cambers

Victoria Azarenka is the women’s world No 1 and on the evidence of her outstanding display in round one at the US Open on Monday night, could well be a serious contender for the title this year. I know that sounds odd – surely the No 1 is always a contender? – but with Serena Williams considered such a big favourite, anyone else is an outsider. On paper at least. Azarenka was in full flow and when you remember that she won the Australian Open on hard courts at the start of the year, there is no reason why she should not go well again here.


Azarenka must surely be a bigger favourite than Williams. Look at HC titles won in the last 12 months. This is not grass.

tennisbum79
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:32 AM
If Vikapowers is invited as a ghostwriter, she will certainly get good press.. but it will be so far from reality that readers will quickly find out it was a hack job, therefore making things worse for Azarenka then before.

There is no easy way to make her easy on the eyes.

Djokovic had his PR problem few years ago, but he turned it around by personality and having his box tone down thier US against the World mentality.
The good news for Vika is she is the only one responsible for PR fortune, she does not have an entourage to speak of.
The bad news it is a tall ask for her.

tennisbum79
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:34 AM
Azarenka must surely be a bigger favourite than Williams. Look at HC titles won in the last 12 months. This is not grass.
If in doubt look at each player's H2H against top 10.
I believe, when everytuing is equal, that is used as tie breaker.

gc-spurs
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:38 AM
I suppose the 'problem' (not that it really is one) is that she has that arrogance and jockiness about her, but she really does it in a normal way never getting too extreme (pretty much like a normal 23 year old). Like she's never gonna pull a Roddick and start talking non-stop on court and insulting linesmen and umpires for half the match and then having a yarn in the press room. She'll be candid in the press room as we've seen, but it will be a dissmissive one liner unlike someone like Roddick who will go on about it and give up the juicy quotes.

Gilas.
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:51 AM
She is not boring, she just gives boring answers. She doesn't take the bait. We all know how sport "journalism" works; especially for someone like Vika who is mired in controversy to not give them any stories, I guess they just don't see the point of interviewing her outside of post-match formalities.

dangalak
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:59 AM
Another shithead of a journalist hating on how she doesn't care AT ALL for these press conferences. :lol:

Silly.

:lol:

He mad cuz his favourite is a charismatic zero. :spit:

Observing the fact that a world number 1 player is not cared about by the media is not hating. I'm sure that Gulbis, Safin and Roddick ddon't really care about pressers either. They still managed to show some personality.

Melange
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:10 AM
She is not boring, she just gives boring answers. She doesn't take the bait. We all know how sport "journalism" works; especially for someone like Vika who is mired in controversy to not give them any stories, I guess they just don't see the point of interviewing her outside of post-match formalities.

Roger shows how to work the media. He does not say anything controversial, but at the same time he makes some effort and tries to give some insights and the journalists respond by giving him some respect. I find his media conferences a bit more interesting than the usual tedium that most players give out. People like Nadal or Roddick I would not bother with. If a player's only aim in a media conference is to get through without "taking the bait" then they dont come out looking any better than the journalists they despise.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:20 AM
She is shrieking harridan on court, who abuses ball kids and struggles to walk under the weight of the chip on her shoulder. Why would anybody be interested in interviewing her, she gives nothing but shrewish, flippant answers when someone dares ask a question. :shrug:

The hate is strong here. :lol:

And it's not her damn fault interviewers keep on asking her the same inane questions, their questions deserve what they get.

dangalak
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:24 AM
Roger shows how to work the media. He does not say anything controversial, but at the same time he makes some effort and tries to give some insights and the journalists respond by giving him some respect. I find his media conferences a bit more interesting than the usual tedium that most players give out. People like Nadal or Roddick I would not bother with. If a player's only aim in a media conference is to get through without "taking the bait" then they dont come out looking any better than the journalists they despise.

Roddick is better than just about anybody else in that department. :facepalm:

dangalak
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:26 AM
Well who cares? The number 1 shold be the better playere, or at least the player who won the most during the last 12 months according to rankigs criteria, not the most good looking one or the one who tells the best jokes.
I defenitely prefer her than some of the players who rechaed no. 1 in the last 10 years.
She has to be only who she is and if people don't like her, people can get lost :wavey:

OOOOOOOOHH

Man you sure showed them. :lol:

NaNaSlam
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:33 AM
Li na is the most famous-liked maiden slammer.

Igor_Biscan
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:35 AM
Whether they like Vika or not, it's the journalists' job to do these press conferences. Not liking the answers she gives is not as excuse for not turning up, and even worse to act like it's Vika's fault you're not doing your job?

Besides if you watch Vika's R2 PC she's pretty friendly, so I'm not sure what they're complaining about.

Miracle Worker
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:49 AM
Still I prefer Vika as #1 than Caroline and her stupis jokes about nothing and her fight against kangoroo.

Jimmie48
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:41 AM
Well her game is really cookie cutter. Nothing creative about her game or her personality IMO. She lacks charisma of any sort and basically every interview I see with her she just seems to give very terse answers and never seems to smile or be warm at all. It's like she just has a negative energy and wants to go back to listening to her iPod or whatever. Just not very endearing. I do respect her results and all but I just think she does not come across likeable at all.

That is not true at all.

It largely depends on the interviewer, if she's asked interesting questions she gives genuinely interesting answers.

I`ve read/seen lots interesting and funny interviews with her, the press just has to make a little effort. Of course she will brush of the millionths question about grunting...nobody's interested in that anymore.

Vika is a really nice girl, most people simply fail to understand her personality.

pesto
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:04 AM
Well, you know, maybe it's just that she had just had a routine first round match that nobody expected her to lose, so there wasn't much to write about. She is both extremely consistent and able to beat most top players. But she hasn't won in New York, so isn't a big noise in the US.

The big 4 men, Masha, the Williamses and Li Na are just in a different league, publicity-wise.

There are so many first-round matches, that I'm not surprised journalists would prioritise those where they will get a good story to write up.

sweetadri06
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:07 AM
Well, I don't regard everything as being equal. Williams is definitely more likely to lose to a Marakova or a Razzano than the other top players.

So far in 2012 Azarenka has won Sydney, AO, Doha and IW on HC. Williams won nothing - her last HC title was Toronto 2011. She is touted as favourite on old merits and a good grass season. And, granted, a favourable draw.

Her last HC title was actually in Standford about two months ago and she is the finalist from last year. So her merits are based on the present not the past. :rolleyes:

Marcoo
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:08 AM
Its about personality and charm I think. Yeah i guess Azarenka doesn't have that personality jurnalists are looking for :)

Rest Maria!
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:12 AM
Well her game is really cookie cutter. Nothing creative about her game or her personality IMO. She lacks charisma of any sort and basically every interview I see with her she just seems to give very terse answers and never seems to smile or be warm at all. It's like she just has a negative energy and wants to go back to listening to her iPod or whatever. Just not very endearing. I do respect her results and all but I just think she does not come across likeable at all.
True that. :yeah:

lenas warriors
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:16 AM
I watched Azarenka defeat Paszek at this years Wimbledon and unfortunately she doesnt endear herself to the crowd during the match. She rightfully tries to get herself going, maintain concentration and is very focussed on what she needs to do. Unfortunately that means the crowd find it difficult to engage with her (Paszek was all smiles etc and got the crowd involved). Sometimes she should maybe let the crowd celebrate on her behalf instead of fistpumping (claps lessened when people saw her firstpump etc).

Kerber is actually very similar although she had a lighter moment when she finally got a challenge right and celebrated (which got the pro-lisicki crowd involved).

Anyway back to Vika i think people will grow to like her as they have done with Maria. They share a lot of similarities in their match demeanour and focus. Maybe another out-of-her-skin performance (e.g. to beat Serena in a smal final) may get the crowd onboard too.

lenas warriors
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:17 AM
p.s. at least she seems to have gone beyond being mopey and self-destructing which made the crowd go against her (so step one ticked)!

Litotes
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:20 AM
Her last HC title was actually in Standford about two months ago and she is the finalist from last year. So her merits are based on the present not the past. :rolleyes:

Stanford, thank you, I forgot about that one. So we have Stanford on one side and Sydney, AU, Doha and IW on the other. And you are welcome to regard last year's tournament as the present if it makes you feel better. By all means. I do not expect everyone to agree with me.

Natural Joe
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Evans and Harman summed up this situation pretty well during Wimbledon:

According to Richard Evans, who has covered 51 Wimbledons since 1960 and authored books on tennis, it's partly personality.

"She comes across as a tough lady," said Evans, who writes for FoxSports.com. "You don't naturally warm to her."

But he blames the media.

"I think it's our fault more than her," Evans said. "She goes out and wins tennis matches, and she shouldn't have to do much more. We live in a celebrity-driven age and she hasn't caught our imagination."

The Times' Harman, who says he gets on well with Azarenka, faulted the lack of attention on the backlog of headline-grabbing first-week stories such as Rafael Nadal's early exit and the Centre Court roof controversy.

"She's generally misjudged as a person and her quality as a player is underrated," he said. "I think you can't find a nicer, more approachable person in the game."

I have the feeling that she's receiving progressively more recognition from the media as at least some of the journalists figured out how asking the same questions over and over again isn't doing any favors to both sides. Apart from that, I think it's never a bad thing for players if they can focus more on the tournaments rather than spending their time with multiple press conferences and interviews.

Ciarán
Aug 30th, 2012, 09:23 AM
She's not pretty, she's not likable and she's the leader of 'generation nobody'. Late 90's/early 2000's were peak WTA :tears:. We need more characters/talent on the WTA. Azarenka and Wozniacki would not stand a chance against the best players of the late 90's/early 2000's. Serena and Venus are soon to retire and Maria swans off to get married and has different priorities, the WTA is seriously headed for oblivion. Even though Serena hasn't played much over the past few years, she at least spices things up a little by playing the 'I all most died and OMG look! I'm back on a tennis court winning matches!!!! Give me dem $$$$$$$' card. It hasn't been very successful for poor Serena though as Maria is still the highest paid athlete in the world. You get what I mean though; sport fans love a fairy tale. Venus hasn't consistently reproduced the form she is capable of, but at least she's slightly controversial/comical with her outfit choices and that gets people talking. Sharapova is leading the way for all female athletes, by becoming the most successful crossover star ever. Plus, with her RG win this year, she's the first player to achieve anything truly special on the WTA in quite a while. Notable mention to the thrashing she received at the Olympics. All these things get people talking and interested. Azarenka and Wozniacki need personality transplants before it's too late!

vixter
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:08 AM
Stanford, thank you, I forgot about that one. So we have Stanford on one side and Sydney, AU, Doha and IW on the other. And you are welcome to regard last year's tournament as the present if it makes you feel better. By all means. I do not expect everyone to agree with me.

I'd say Serena is the overwhelming favourite considering her performances in Wimbledon and Olympics. If she and Azarenka were to meet, just look at their H2H and latest meetings. A Serena who's playing well crushes Azarenka. The surface doesn't play such a big part IMO. After all Serena has always been known as a great HC player and has multiple slams on HC.

At the same time, she feels a lot more pressure in her home slam USO... So we'll see.

Mr.Sharapova
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:25 AM
There is nothing interesting about Vika's personality. She tends to be bitchy to lower ranked opponents but when she faces top ranked players she's always portrayed as the inferior one.

I really believed that after her stay at the top of the ranking would do her good and would make her profile more recognizable but nothing happened. It's kinda weird.

Raiden
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:26 AM
The media doesn't someone from Belarus to be the face of women's tennis. Much as Monica from Yugoslavia back then. :shrug:Azarenka is from Belarus.That's the reason.
Those biased western journalists don't like her country..This is nothing new: it straight from the media playbook during the days of Ivan Lendl.

- 1984: how dare this evil commie win slams and take over the №1 spot?
- 2012: how dare this evil commie win slams and take over the №1 spot?

Different player - same script.

SilverSlam
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:29 AM
TBH I thought she'd be a lot more popular too. Personally I wasn't really a fan until Wimbledon when she put up that performance against Serena. But you know her press conferences are just :oh: and she's mega bitchy to people who try and put her down, which seems to be one person in every press conference, so I think eventually people will love her IDGAF attitude. I do.

Kworb
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:32 AM
She is ugly, she is boring. Her game is ugly, it is boring. Her grunts are terrible. No one likes to see her play. No one likes to hear her talk. No one wants anything to do with her. So of course even the press isn't going to bother with her. We're all just wishing for her to go away so the WTA can be saved.

Mary Cherry.
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:33 AM
They're doing TF a favour and not giving the trolls any words to twist and feed off of. Good job, tennis journos.

Jimmie48
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:35 AM
She is ugly, she is boring. Her game is ugly, it is boring. Her grunts are terrible. No one likes to see her play. No one likes to hear her talk. No one wants anything to do with her. So of course even the press isn't going to bother with her. We're all just wishing for her to go away so the WTA can be saved.

:lol:

KournikovaFan91
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:37 AM
I think the bitch persona could actually help her if she embraced it more, not the Rodionova type bitchiness but a more funny bitchiness. I certainly love how she can antagonize a crowd and still win a match :hearts:

I think good points have been made though. Belarus could be a contributing factor, its not a big name country like Russia and the Western media does present Belarus in a negative light on a pretty regular basis.

Also her being a tough type girl doesn't appeal to the media, the sports media still like their female athletes to have sweet personalities, being a tough girl who looks like she could kick your ass is not what the media want. They'd rather generic friendliness and a more traditional feminine personality.

gc-spurs
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:40 AM
She's not pretty, she's not likable and she's the leader of 'generation nobody'. Late 90's/early 2000's were peak WTA :tears:. We need more characters/talent on the WTA. Azarenka and Wozniacki would not stand a chance against the best players of the late 90's/early 2000's. Serena and Venus are soon to retire and Maria swans off to get married and has different priorities, the WTA is seriously headed for oblivion. Even though Serena hasn't played much over the past few years, she at least spices things up a little by playing the 'I all most died and OMG look! I'm back on a tennis court winning matches!!!! Give me dem $$$$$$$' card. It hasn't been very successful for poor Serena though as Maria is still the highest paid athlete in the world. You get what I mean though; sport fans love a fairy tale. Venus hasn't consistently reproduced the form she is capable of, but at least she's slightly controversial/comical with her outfit choices and that gets people talking. Sharapova is leading the way for all female athletes, by becoming the most successful crossover star ever. Plus, with her RG win this year, she's the first player to achieve anything truly special on the WTA in quite a while. Notable mention to the thrashing she received at the Olympics. All these things get people talking and interested. Azarenka and Wozniacki need personality transplants before it's too late!

.....she's not pretty.

I mean, that sounds bad, but whatever. The Spring Fling Queen is always pretty.

And the crazy thing is is that it should be Karen, but people forget about her because she's such a slut.

bandabou
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:53 AM
Tough spot...

Break My Rapture
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:56 AM
True fans and true tennis fans will appreciate her or their own favourites regardless of what the media thinks.

Fuck the casual fans who know jack about your favourites. I for one, don't give two fucks about what the media or casual fans who know nothing about the WTA think of my favourites. I'd take Vika over Caroline for no.1 anyway.

She is not boring, she just gives boring answers. She doesn't take the bait. We all know how sport "journalism" works; especially for someone like Vika who is mired in controversy to not give them any stories, I guess they just don't see the point of interviewing her outside of post-match formalities.
Exactly. LOL @ the people saying she doesn't have a personality, just because she doesn't give a shit about answering the journo questions in a "funny" and "witty" way. :lol: Journo flip her off for the grunting, she flips them off with monotonous answers to their questions, which admittedly, have been embarrassing for most of this year now, especially at Wimbledon.

dIia0RyLeJY

Her personality is just fine.

dany.p
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:56 AM
This is problematic. Its doesn't surprise me, but it is an issue.

Majority of press conferences involve players spouting tennis cliches like robots (i played really well, i had to focus, my next match is going to be a tough match, player x is a really togh opponent etc.). I understand that there are players that may be shy, or that may not be as comfortable speaking in english, and that's fine. But when you have majority press conferences that go the same way, it becomes an issue. For us dedicated fans, it doesn't really matter. Mostly we watch because of the tennis, and we have good knowledge of the players. But these issues do not bring in any new fans, and it is not good promotion for the sport.

It's why i appreciate what the Williams, Sharapova, Na Li, and certain other players, do. They draw casual viewers in. They create interest in womens tennis, which is, at the moment, lacking with casual viewers.

Martian Jeza
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:02 AM
She is ugly, she is boring. Her game is ugly, it is boring. Her grunts are terrible. No one likes to see her play. No one likes to hear her talk. No one wants anything to do with her. So of course even the press isn't going to bother with her. We're all just wishing for her to go away so the WTA can be saved.

You still can save this board by leaving it

oh yeah i guess
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:08 AM
She is ugly, she is boring. Her game is ugly, it is boring. Her grunts are terrible. No one likes to see her play. No one likes to hear her talk. No one wants anything to do with her. So of course even the press isn't going to bother with her. We're all just wishing for her to go away so the WTA can be saved.

You don't speak for everyone else. Your irrational hate of her (and Kvitova) is quite laughable.

dany.p
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:08 AM
True fans and true tennis fans will appreciate her or their own favourites regardless of what the media thinks.

Fuck the casual fans who know jack about your favourites. I for one, don't give two fucks about what the media or casual fans who know nothing about the WTA think of my favourites. I'd take Vika over Caroline for no.1 anyway.

Well that's great, but the casual fans are the reason top players make millions in prizemoney. The casual fans are the reason why we get to watch tennis on TV. I am sure there are wta players out there that have this attitude as well, and its a significant reason why womens tennis is slowly losing its appeal. This is not good for the sport.

C. Drone
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:13 AM
hate her, but amusing how journos are pressed she isnt doing them favours. :rolls:

Patrick345
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:33 AM
I think the bitch persona could actually help her if she embraced it more, not the Rodionova type bitchiness but a more funny bitchiness. I certainly love how she can antagonize a crowd and still win a match :hearts:

I think good points have been made though. Belarus could be a contributing factor, its not a big name country like Russia and the Western media does present Belarus in a negative light on a pretty regular basis.

Also her being a tough type girl doesn't appeal to the media, the sports media still like their female athletes to have sweet personalities, being a tough girl who looks like she could kick your ass is not what the media want. They'd rather generic friendliness and a more traditional feminine personality.

Pretty much. It´s a "You don´t care, I don´t care. Me against the world" type situation. All they did was ignore her, remember her empty pressroom tweet pic from the Australian Open? When they had to talk to her, because she won the damn thing, it was all about the grunting. It´s no surprise that relationship is bad.

The WTA also does give little effort to promote her as the standout #1. You can always tell, when the top player is more of a bother to the WTA. Oh wait the WTA did try, when they scripted her post match speeches during Indian Wells. That was such a failure. :lol:

Coconut91
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:52 AM
Whether they like Vika or not, it's the journalists' job to do these press conferences. Not liking the answers she gives is not as excuse for not turning up, and even worse to act like it's Vika's fault you're not doing your job?

Besides if you watch Vika's R2 PC she's pretty friendly, so I'm not sure what they're complaining about.

Agreed. I don't think it's very professional of them to complain about a player and even writing articles about how anonymus she is or how media doesn't warm up to her. Like, who cares how media "feels" about anyone, they are there to do their job.

Maybe if they weren't so sensationalistic, trying to create drama between players and making annoying grunting questions all the time, SHE would feel more comfortable on press conferences and would give more "interesting" answers. Then they would discover that Vika is actually a nice and funny girl. If they haven't discovered that by now it's because they aren't doing much of an effort.

Mary Cherry.
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:56 AM
Exactly. LOL @ the people saying she doesn't have a personality, just because she doesn't give a shit about answering the journo questions in a "funny" and "witty" way. :lol: Journo flip her off for the grunting, she flips them off with monotonous answers to their questions, which admittedly, have been embarrassing for most of this year now, especially at Wimbledon.

dIia0RyLeJY

Her personality is just fine.

The WTA should take it upon themselves to make videos like this on a bunch of players rather than this Strong Is Beautiful crap and the Dubai Duty Free travel thing where they're all so wooden.

Also, I'm pretty sure most players nowadays are media trained within an inch of their lives. 9/10 press conferences are boring because of both the boring (and repetitive) questions and the textbook (and repetitive) answers. Journos can't give Vika those textbook questions anymore so now they're at a loss as to what to do. Not sure how some of them got their jobs tbh.

smarties
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:59 AM
I don't find her very likable, then again I don't find Maria likable either and the press is eating out of her hand :confused:

Igor_Biscan
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:59 AM
Pretty much. It´s a "You don´t care, I don´t care. Me against the world" type situation. All they did was ignore her, remember her empty pressroom tweet pic from the Australian Open? When they had to talk to her, because she won the damn thing, it was all about the grunting. It´s no surprise that relationship is bad.

The WTA also does give little effort to promote her as the standout #1. You can always tell, when the top player is more of a bother to the WTA. Oh wait the WTA did try, when they scripted her post match speeches during Indian Wells. That was such a failure. :lol:

for real? I remember thinking her on court interviews were weird at IW.

KournikovaFan91
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:25 PM
The WTA should take it upon themselves to make videos like this on a bunch of players rather than this Strong Is Beautiful crap and the Dubai Duty Free travel thing where they're all so wooden.


This and a youtube account and a camera would sure be cheaper and probably more effective than that Strong is Beautiful crap.

hERi
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:57 PM
She's a unique player..she's a tennis star now and the star usually show the unique attitude

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:10 PM
1st they ask whether they wanna go to Vika's press
then they have a right moan cos none of the journos have any guts to put their hand up 1st

then they blame Vika for not getting a press with her

Sammo
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:12 PM
Isn't she lovely local?

GoofyDuck
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:17 PM
Let her stay anonymous

Rest Maria!
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:26 PM
Pretty much. It´s a "You don´t care, I don´t care. Me against the world" type situation. All they did was ignore her, remember her empty pressroom tweet pic from the Australian Open? When they had to talk to her, because she won the damn thing, it was all about the grunting. It´s no surprise that relationship is bad.

The WTA also does give little effort to promote her as the standout #1. You can always tell, when the top player is more of a bother to the WTA. Oh wait the WTA did try, when they scripted her post match speeches during Indian Wells. That was such a failure. :lol:

Wasn't the empty room picture from Roland Garros, long after she became #1?

Patrick345
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:32 PM
for real? I remember thinking her on court interviews were weird at IW.

Oh sure that was the WTA. That was so forced and Vika repeated them like she reading from a teleprompter.

StoneRose
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:43 PM
Only need to see the bag check video or the video Desuetude posted in this thread to see that Vika has a relaxed witty personality off court. Vika isn't the problem, the problem is the journalists and their endless whining about grunting and their general inability to ask intelligent questions. With some journalists it feels like they only took up their profession because they failed at all other things in life, Peter Bodo comes to mind immediately as a prime example.

bandabou
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:43 PM
she doesn't stand out...Masha already is everything Azarenka can be, thus no interesting for the press.

Jimmie48
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:45 PM
I don't find her very likable, then again I don't find Maria likable either and the press is eating out of her hand :confused:

Because Sharapova has americanized herself beyond recognition, that's why the media loves her.

Vika often talks about being from Belarus, her life at home etc. That obviously turns the media off.

StoneRose
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:48 PM
FL1_kyzK_XM

This is a funny vid as well with 3 of my favs in it :drool:.

os400
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:55 PM
vika is ok person i think.. but masha is on different level of charming off court.. the way they promote masha, as fashion icon, is better than the way they promote anna k as sex symbol... im glad masha dont have that sex appeal and instead focus on her fashion stuff..

i remember in bollitieri interview , he said masha dresses sexy but always conservative (not cheap).. its an interview in 2003 iirc

Igor_Biscan
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:01 PM
Only need to see the bag check video or the video Desuetude posted in this thread to see that Vika has a relaxed witty personality off court. Vika isn't the problem, the problem is the journalists and their endless whining about grunting and their general inability to ask intelligent questions. With some journalists it feels like they only took up their profession because they failed at all other things in life, Peter Bodo comes to mind immediately as a prime example.

bag check "snickers and coke" video is genius

as is the "fuck my mouth" video but maybe not for all audiences

Trickle
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:02 PM
I actually like Vika and have never found her personality off-putting. She has a dry sense of humour but I don't really think she's bad.

Melange
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:01 PM
This and a youtube account and a camera would sure be cheaper and probably more effective than that Strong is Beautiful crap.

Petkovic did that on her own initiative and TF criticises her for being fake and trying too hard to be popular

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:13 PM
I have to admit it's strange. I really thought her profile would be higher by now. She's reasonably pretty, speaks good English, is fairly charismatic.... yet she seems even less well-known than Petra (who has far inferior English).

And @ Anthony, etc.

The funny thing with Petra is, the American and world press really like her. They always say nice things about her like, "she's the most enjoyable top player to talk to", etc.. And her English is getting better (and more of her personality is shining through), as she gets more relaxed with the English Speaking press and spotlight.

Obviously, a lot of non-fans may not be aware of this, and find it surprising. However, If/when Petra wins the US Open and/or more majors and really establishes her self (so they don't look like fools-predicting her to win every tournament and be wrong), she'll leave Vika in the dust. Petra will be like a Kim Cljsters type to them (especially convenient, since she's retiring).

What does this mean? It means the Press will push Petra (as they did almost non stop at the end of 2011, and the beginning of 2012 as evidence), once she wins another major and/or looks like she's solidifying herself as a top 2-3 player in the current tough competition.

That's why they recently gave her an English Speaking Press person. They're preparing.

Ultimately, if the press is not interested in you (for good, bad or other/whatever reasons), they're not going to promote you.

Roookie
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:06 PM
I don't think the WTA is in the business performing personality implant.

Are you saying the current capmpain does not fit Azarenka's personality?
Yopu want them to come with someting else that make Azarenka stand out? I don't think so.
The campaingn is about the entire WTA, players, all of the players, do their best to accentuate what the campaign goal is

I

I didn't mean personality implant :lol: Just show her personality more.

Who knew about Na Li's humour and warm personality until she brokethrough at AO in 2011 and everybody got to see her interviews.

WTA should show more of that from her top players IMO.

missvarsha
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:21 PM
In my opinion it has nothing to do with personality, or looks (although both help) or even talent.
There is a third factor that cannot be easily described - an aspect of charisma that can NOT be learned - some people have it and some just ..:. Don't .
For all there is to like about her, Azarenka isn't star material. She just ISN'T.
A similar example on the men's side is Del Potro - he is GS champion, tall, handsome, an has a great game, the press always promOtes him but yet fans reaction is always "oh yeah HIM". No one dislikes him but everyone forgets about him as soon as he is oft the court.

Now there are players who have in the past overcome this black hole of charisma just on the sheer bulk of their achievements (the lamented St Kimberle is an example) but Azarenka is nowhere near that.

bandabou
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Because Sharapova has americanized herself beyond recognition, that's why the media loves her.

Vika often talks about being from Belarus, her life at home etc. That obviously turns the media off.

Very interesting.

Raiden
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:45 PM
In my opinion it has nothing to do with personality, or looks (although both help) or even talent.
There is a third factor that cannot be easily described - an aspect of charisma that can NOT be learned - some people have it and some just ..:. Don't .
For all there is to like about her, Azarenka isn't star material. She just ISN'T.
A similar example on the men's side is Del Potro - he is GS champion, tall, handsome, an has a great game, the press always promOtes him but yet fans reaction is always "oh yeah HIM". No one dislikes him but everyone forgets about him as soon as he is oft the court.

Now there are players who have in the past overcome this black hole of charisma just on the sheer bulk of their achievements (the lamented St Kimberle is an example) but Azarenka is nowhere near that.I dunno how you came to that conclusion. Nothing could be further from the truth. He is not "promoted" at all (whatever that means but I imagine it involves stuff perpetrated by a coterie of media figures, personal agents, PR managers, image consultants and so on....

I'd say the opposite: Delpo is the most unpromoted, unscripted slam winner you will ever meet on the current pro tennis circuit.

http://s11.postimage.org/6sreer59f/image.jpg

treufreund
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Although I do find her not particularly charismatic nor endearing, I will agree that the press is guilty of some Anti-Slavic sentiments and that her hailing from Belarus has caused some unfair bias against her.

StoneRose
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:41 PM
And @ Anthony, etc.

The funny thing with Petra is, the American and world press really like her. They always say nice things about her like, "she's the most enjoyable top player to talk to", etc.. And her English is getting better (and more of her personality is shining through), as she gets more relaxed with the English Speaking press and spotlight.

Obviously, a lot of non-fans may not be aware of this, and find it surprising. However, If/when Petra wins the US Open and/or more majors and really establishes her self (so they don't look like fools-predicting her to win every tournament and be wrong), she'll leave Vika in the dust. Petra will be like a Kim Cljsters type to them (especially convenient, since she's retiring).

What does this mean? It means the Press will push Petra (as they did almost non stop at the end of 2011, and the beginning of 2012 as evidence), once she wins another major and/or looks like she's solidifying herself as a top 2-3 player in the current tough competition.

That's why they recently gave her an English Speaking Press person. They're preparing.

Ultimately, if the press is not interested in you (for good, bad or other/whatever reasons), they're not going to promote you.Aren't you confusing the press with yourself and some other rabid Petra fans at the end of 2011 :confused:.

Kworb
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:42 PM
:haha: No one cares she is from Belarus. Belarus = Russia to most of the world. Are Kournikova and Sharapova unpopular?

miffedmax
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:06 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m81jjqmJQD1r8zzzwo1_r2_500.gif

just

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76cusX1Wt1rr2hb0o1_1280.png

sit down.

Excelscior
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Aren't you confusing the press with yourself and some other rabid Petra fans at the end of 2011 :confused:.

You should be more happy and grateful, that Petra took the monkey off the back of Generation suck by winning Wimby and being the first newcomer to ever win the YEC. :smash:

I honestly believe if the press weren't talking about Petra so much at the beginning of 2012 (and if she hand't busted Generations Sucks Grand Slam Cherry), taking the pressure off of Azarenka, she wouldn't of won the Australian in 2012.

So you should be happy she's "anonymous" again now (and of course pray that Kvitova doesn't get to the semi-final, if she does). :oh:

KournikovaFan91
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:08 PM
:haha: No one cares she is from Belarus. Belarus = Russia to most of the world. Are Kournikova and Sharapova unpopular?

The media who are the ones who control what the public see know the difference and as someone has said Masha and Anna K. were heavily Americanised from an early age whereas Azarenka isn't quite that Americanised.

Malvina
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:24 PM
I honestly believe if the press weren't talking about Petra so much at the beginning of 2012 (and if she hand't busted Generations Sucks Grand Slam Cherry), taking the pressure off of Azarenka, she wouldn't of won the Australian in 2012.


:hah:

Molok
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:24 PM
I think that part of the reason could be dept she is paying for generation sucks. Let me explain. In late 90s and early 200 in peak WTA there were generation change with WOW effect (WOW who are those Hingis and Williams that can regularly beat Graf and Seles?) The media hype was quick. The same hype was Masha (WOW who is this young pretty girl, who can win Wimbledon in such a tough era?). Than came Belgians (WOW who are those girls who can on regularly basis compete with Williams sisters and also beat them). But than came generation sucks (lot of inconsistent players, slamless number ones one WOW effect was lost. Who cares here come some Wozniacki who is able to beat Jankovic or Safina? And Vika and current players are paying dept for generation of 2007 - 2010. Who cares Vika or Petra can beat Wozniacki? Nobody. Current generation (Vika, Petra, maybe Angelique) needs to start to win slams (nothing else will help them) and through long term consistency they become stars (Including Masha on tour what could help them all). After that they will become world known other they will give baton to new generation nobody cares in the start. Also some native English speaker player would help (from USA or GBR - maybe Robson) to bring back this audience back to follow tennis regularly.

I don’t think it’s all about personality cause Vika’s for example very similar one to Senera’s one. Cheeky and hungry for winning .

Raiden
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:36 PM
Although I do find her not particularly charismatic nor endearing, I will agree that the press is guilty of some Anti-Slavic sentiments and that her hailing from Belarus has caused some unfair bias against her."Anti-Slavic" :facepalm:

Dude, you are confused and are confusing Kworb by conflating and mixing up race/ethnicity with geopolitics/economics.

By Belarus factor it is NOT meant the Slavic blood of the people but the "red" nature of the country.

Raiden
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:52 PM
:haha: No one cares she is from Belarus. Belarus = Russia to most of the world. Are Kournikova and Sharapova unpopular?You have been confused by previous posters.

By "Belarus" it is NOT meant the country's race or ethnicity or blood or any of that nonsense, but it's closed system of COMMUNIST dictatorship. The kind where Ivan Lendl belonged to.

If we had a world number one slam winner from, say, North Korea or Cuba (and the chick remains loyal to her motherland and doesn't flip her passport and defect) she would have also gotten the Azarenka treatment
.

Igor_Biscan
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:05 PM
You should be more happy and grateful, that Petra took the monkey off the back of Generation suck by winning Wimby and being the first newcomer to ever win the YEC. :smash:

I honestly believe if the press weren't talking about Petra so much at the beginning of 2012 (and if she hand't busted Generations Sucks Grand Slam Cherry), taking the pressure off of Azarenka, she wouldn't of won the Australian in 2012.


Thank you Petra :hearts:

Smitten
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:05 AM
She's a joke. If she could hit winners against good players, then people would care.

Morrissey
Aug 31st, 2012, 02:32 AM
Actually the journalist is correct if Azarenka wants to EXPAND HER BRAND and make MORE MONEY she's got to get more publicity and media attention. I think there are a couple reasons the media don't care for Victoria.

1. Victoria has a bad attitude she's upset about the grunting controversy.

2. Victoria hasn't really proven herself no offense to her fans but winning ONE SLAM isn't good enough anymore. Sure, Victoria is better than Safina, Jankovic, or Wozniacki but in order to solidify her position as the best female player she needs MORE THAN ONE SLAM.
So Victoria's got to keep on winning if she wins more she will acquire more media attention.

3. Victoria needs to be smart having a bad attitude with the press will hurt her wallet in the long run. The media could help her to become more popular she needs to grow up and realize being a tennis player is being an entertainer and not just an athlete.

4. Eastern European fatigue, I know it isn't PC to say but in the WEST the media care about WESTERN players. If Victoria was from say England, or Australia, or another western country she would get more attention.

Morrissey
Aug 31st, 2012, 02:36 AM
And @ Anthony, etc.

The funny thing with Petra is, the American and world press really like her. They always say nice things about her like, "she's the most enjoyable top player to talk to", etc.. And her English is getting better (and more of her personality is shining through), as she gets more relaxed with the English Speaking press and spotlight.

Obviously, a lot of non-fans may not be aware of this, and find it surprising. However, If/when Petra wins the US Open and/or more majors and really establishes her self (so they don't look like fools-predicting her to win every tournament and be wrong), she'll leave Vika in the dust. Petra will be like a Kim Cljsters type to them (especially convenient, since she's retiring).

What does this mean? It means the Press will push Petra (as they did almost non stop at the end of 2011, and the beginning of 2012 as evidence), once she wins another major and/or looks like she's solidifying herself as a top 2-3 player in the current tough competition.

That's why they recently gave her an English Speaking Press person. They're preparing.

Ultimately, if the press is not interested in you (for good, bad or other/whatever reasons), they're not going to promote you.

Petra comes across as more friendly than Victoria she comes across as a bitch with a bad attitude problem. No wonder the press don't like Victoria.

Petra also WON WIMBLEDON which is the most important slam meaning more people in the world know who she is. No offense to Victoria Azarenka fans but the Australian Open is the least important of the four slams. The Australian has less profile than Wimbledon.

Morrissey
Aug 31st, 2012, 02:40 AM
Well who cares? The number 1 shold be the better playere, or at least the player who won the most during the last 12 months according to rankigs criteria, not the most good looking one or the one who tells the best jokes.
I defenitely prefer her than some of the players who rechaed no. 1 in the last 10 years.
She has to be only who she is and if people don't like her, people can get lost :wavey:

Actually IT DOES MATTER that the world media don't care about the world number one. Hello, tennis is a BUSINESS, the top player is supposed to be HELPING PROMOTE THE SPORT. When the press don't care about Azarenka that sends the message that the public shouldn't care about her either.

Let.them.talk
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:30 AM
When the press don't care about Azarenka that sends the message that the public shouldn't care about her either.

Maybe the ones that were in that place (conference) in that tournament in that year and match.

Do the press don't care? I mean... when we are talking about publicity... it isn't good or bad, it's publicity indeed. And we all see they in fact write and speak about her, Vika, the one who is apparently anonymous. Vika has fans and there is people who isn't fan of her (don't want to use hater, just people who supports other players), this article isn't going to change anything... i don't think it is a front paper or something close to that... people who follow tennis follow tennis and player not journalists issues.

P.S. We have to do what press say? Ok XD

hingisGOAT
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:45 AM
LOL @ people thinking her nationality matters, or comparing Belarus to Cuba and North Korea. Reality check time: nobody even knows where the fuck Belarus is on the map. It might be the least known and least significant country in the world, so trust that no one gives a damn where this girl is from.

Also, Kworb's posts are correct.

DeliriousPotato
Aug 31st, 2012, 04:39 AM
At least she turns heads at Wimbledon... for all the wrong reasons :oh:

Becool
Aug 31st, 2012, 04:47 AM
Many bland players had the right management/kool-aid to be successful.
Nadal is as dull as it gets and yet he's the second most popular player around the world.

nadal can be sexy.

Litotes
Aug 31st, 2012, 04:50 AM
LOL @ people thinking her nationality matters, or comparing Belarus to Cuba and North Korea. Reality check time: nobody even knows where the fuck Belarus is on the map. It might be the least known and least significant country in the world, so trust that no one gives a damn where this girl is from.

Also, Kworb's posts are correct.

Just because you personally only ever heard about 30-40 countries doesn't mean that's all there is to the world. In fact, we have 194 countries recognized by the UN. Belarus will undoubtedly be top-50 in terms of being well known. And speaking as a European who can place Kiribati and Tuvalu on the map, I'm sure there are plenty of people more geographically savvy than you give them credit for.

pov
Aug 31st, 2012, 05:19 AM
Usually there is a massive clamour to speak to such players – Roger Federer’s press conferences are always packed out because he continues to be interesting, intelligent and relevant even after so many years on Tour. But Azarenka remains virtually anonymous, even within the press rooms around the world.
That makes the case for how stupid this article was. Yeah . . let's use Federer as the benchmark to compare Azarenka against. I mean the man just won his first major and became #1 for the first time this year so clearly . . . :facepalm:

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:00 AM
Oh man this thread has delivered.



By "Belarus" it is NOT meant the country's race or ethnicity or blood or any of that nonsense, but it's closed system of COMMUNIST dictatorship. The kind where Ivan Lendl belonged to.

If we had a world number one slam winner from, say, North Korea or Cuba (and the chick remains loyal to her motherland and doesn't flip her passport and defect) she would have also gotten the Azarenka treatment
.

The hell are you talking about? Belarus is not a 'Communist Dictatorship'. An authoritarian state, yes. I think you might want to look up the definition of communism as you clearly have no idea what it is.

If she could hit winners against good players, then people would care.

I don't know she does that pretty often.

LOL @ people thinking her nationality matters, or comparing Belarus to Cuba and North Korea. Reality check time: nobody even knows where the fuck Belarus is on the map. It might be the least known and least significant country in the world, so trust that no one gives a damn where this girl is from.


Maybe if you're uneducated and ignorant.

Also, Kworb's posts are correct.

Hahahaha. No.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:15 AM
Petra also WON WIMBLEDON which is the most important slam meaning more people in the world know who she is. No offense to Victoria Azarenka fans but the Australian Open is the least important of the four slams. The Australian has less profile than Wimbledon.

Prove it please.

duhcity
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:34 AM
I think Azarenka dealt with the pressure just fine - she is easily the best recent new #1.
I really don't think Petra will ever be that media darling you think she's going to be - especially not in the United States. Or maybe she loves playing in the US now and it's her favorite country and she wants to move to LA. Whatever her agent starts spewing out if she does get that big.

I don't think we'll see any player in the current generation get to Sharapova level heights, especially in the United States - really only Caroline has a chance, and she actually needs to be back on top with slams to make it. I know it pains most of this forum, but Caroline really is a thing in the US, people know her, and people like her. I don't think Azarenka or Petra will ever challenge Caroline in the sponsorship department if she wins a slam.

Israel
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:46 AM
I don't think that her tennis is her problem. I mean people liked Wozniacki at the time but it's the personality that's the problem. Whenever I see her on TV her expression is like "oh I'm the best nobody will ever beat me davai" something like Sharapova. But the advantage of Sharapova over Azarenka is her looks and that's why she had such a successful career outside court too in my opinion.

laurie
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:50 AM
Whether you think Azarenka is bland as an individual, the problem with mainstream media is that they want to have too much influence. Everyone is different but the mainstream doesnt celebrate difference, they want everyone to be the same to make their life easier.

Azarenka's job is to win tennis matches. As others have said, the WTA can try to promote Azarenka more instead.

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WIMBLY2004
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:02 AM
You have been confused by previous posters.

By "Belarus" it is NOT meant the country's race or ethnicity or blood or any of that nonsense, but it's closed system of COMMUNIST dictatorship. The kind where Ivan Lendl belonged to.

If we had a world number one slam winner from, say, North Korea or Cuba (and the chick remains loyal to her motherland and doesn't flip her passport and defect) she would have also gotten the Azarenka treatment
.

This is silly, Li Na is from China, the biggest country of Communist dictatorship, yet, she is one of the most popular players in WTA.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:17 AM
This is silly, Li Na is from China, the biggest country of Communist dictatorship, yet, she is one of the most popular players in WTA.

Ugh, *sigh*. You can't seriously believe China is communist ...

Beat
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:26 AM
everybody realized she's as annoyingly boring as her tennis. only some freaks on TF cheer for her.

WIMBLY2004
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:26 AM
Ugh, *sigh*. You can't seriously believe China is communist ...

Don't be naive, I live in Hong Kong and go to China every month, trust me, I don't need to believe, I can see. Try Google about China politics or 4th June, you will have new findings.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:30 AM
Don't be naive, I live in Hong Kong and go to China every month, trust me, I don't need to believe, I can see. Try Google about China politics or 4th June, you will have new findings.

Now I don't doubt that China is a greatly authoritarian place, which it is.

But is it a stateless and classless society where the people control the means of production? That's essentially what communism is.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:32 AM
everybody realized she's as annoyingly boring as her tennis. only some freaks on TF cheer for her.

And who do you consider to be exciting, out of curiousity?

awsk8er
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:37 AM
Now I don't doubt that China is a greatly authoritarian place, which it is.

But is it a stateless and classless society where the people control the means of production? That's essentially what communism is.

That definition was never fulfilled in any (ex)communist country.You would have to live in one of those countries to understand what some people here try to express.

WIMBLY2004
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:42 AM
Now I don't doubt that China is a greatly authoritarian place, which it is.

But is it a stateless and classless society where the people control the means of production? That's essentially what communism is.

Well, on the economy side, you can call China "capitalism", however, on the politics side, there is no freedom of speech, no democracy, no even the choice of how many children you want to have, I don't know about your dictionary, it's definitely communism to me.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:43 AM
That definition was never fulfilled in any (ex)communist country.You would have to live in one of those countries to understand what some people here try to express.

It's as simple as saying that if a society does not have the workers controlling the means of production then it is not communist/socialist. It's as simple as that. I'm Belarusian and I would tell anyone that today's Belarus is nowhere near resembling communism.

That's all. I don't want to drag politics any further into this, I've said what I had needed to.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:44 AM
Well, on the economy side, you can call China "capitalism", however, on the politics side, there is no freedom of speech, no democracy, no even the choice of how many children you want to have, I don't know about your dictionary, it's definitely communism to me.

That's authoritarianism/totalitarianism. ;)

awsk8er
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:48 AM
It's as simple as saying that if a society does not have the workers controlling the means of production then it is not communist/socialist. It's as simple as that. I'm Belarusian and I would tell anyone that today's Belarus is nowhere near resembling communism.

That's all. I don't want to drag politics any further into this, I've said what I had needed to.

if you stick to the idealist 19th century vision of communism, thats true. but this vision of real communism never really happened.

and yeah, lets finish this OT.

WIMBLY2004
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:50 AM
That's authoritarianism/totalitarianism. ;)

Call it whatever you like, the truth is that China government call itself communism country and obvoisly is proud to be one, so...

améliemomo
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:18 AM
Many problems with her:

1. grunts
2. not charismatic and seems FAKE
3. trying sooo hard to look sympathic but fails
4. medias ignore her and dont think it will change since there still have "stars" on the tour (serena,screampova)
5. she's not that much appreciated by worldwide crowds

well not the ideal n°1 for sure!:lol:

LUVMIRZA
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:20 AM
Both parties have to compromise. Azarenka needs to be a bit more patient with the press and the press has to understand grunting questions annoy Azarenka. thats it....nothing biggy here. Its an easily solvable issue. WTA jus cant survive with Maria alone. The tour need more stars and the organization should be motivated to achieve that.

Calling her bitch etc for her fiesty on court attitude is too much. But I am not surprised as it mostly comes from that sour mouthed aga fans:lol: stay pressed haters.

Natural Joe
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:37 AM
everybody realized she's as annoyingly boring as her tennis. only some freaks on TF cheer for her.

Yeah, well...

yes, you don't like errani. we got that by now.

Don‘t you think we got it by now that you don‘t like Vika? You complain when somebody writes something dismissive about Errani and yet you do the very same here in this thread. :rolleyes:

Natural Joe
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:44 AM
Many problems with her:

1. grunts
2. not charismatic and seems FAKE
3. trying sooo hard to look sympathic but fails
4. medias ignore her and dont think it will change since there still have "stars" on the tour (serena,screampova)
5. she's not that much appreciated by worldwide crowds

well not the ideal n°1 for sure!:lol:

And then there are people who are saying that she doesn't even bother trying to be a nice person, fake a smile, etc. People will always criticize, no matter what.

LUVMIRZA
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:47 AM
Many problems with her:

1. grunts
2. not charismatic and seems FAKE
3. trying sooo hard to look sympathic but fails
4. medias ignore her and dont think it will change since there still have "stars" on the tour (serena,screampova)
5. she's not that much appreciated by worldwide crowds

well not the ideal n°1 for sure!:lol:

thats because u hate her. I know how much Amelie was criticized during her reign. So please:rolleyes:

Beat
Aug 31st, 2012, 11:10 AM
Don‘t you think we got it by now that you don‘t like Vika? You complain when somebody writes something dismissive about Errani and yet you do the very same here in this thread. :rolleyes:

that's true, i apologize. i realize such assessments are purely subjective.
but at least i never post "bye bitch" gifs when azarenka loses.

oh yeah i guess
Aug 31st, 2012, 11:23 AM
Call it whatever you like, the truth is that China government call itself communism country and obvoisly is proud to be one, so...

Does that mean North Korea is democratic though? Since it labels itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea even if NK itself is just about the opposite of democratic? What a government calls themselves is irrelevant and not always indicative of what they really are.

Okay, that's my last post on this subject.

LUXXXAS
Aug 31st, 2012, 11:41 AM
sad but true!
Her personality is just as boring as her tennis :help: :facepalm:

LUVMIRZA
Aug 31st, 2012, 11:58 AM
sad but true!
Her personality is just as boring as her tennis :help: :facepalm:

says a Davenport fan:facepalm:

rrfnpump
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:04 PM
This is silly, Li Na is from China, the biggest country of Communist dictatorship, yet, she is one of the most popular players in WTA.

China is not communist. :lol:

on topic: Azarenka is one of the few WTA players I would not dare to approach to have a picture taken. On tournaments I visited, she always seemed cold and not willing to communicate with fans. :unsure:

TheBoiledEgg
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:06 PM
And who do you consider to be exciting, out of curiousity?


that criminal Schnyder :tape: :lol:

améliemomo
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:18 PM
thats because u hate her. I know how much Amelie was criticized during her reign. So please:rolleyes:

amélie was competing among the best ALWAYS. Azarenka belongs to Generation Suck. Not the same n°1.

End of discussion.

LUVMIRZA
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:21 PM
amélie was competing among the best ALWAYS. Azarenka belongs to Generation Suck. Not the same n°1.

End of discussion.

Azarenka was born much later..so how can she be part of that era? U clueless or brainless:confused:

Mary Cherry.
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:29 PM
Glad to see people aren't being biased at all.

Olórin
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:32 PM
Off Topic:

It's as simple as saying that if a society does not have the workers controlling the means of production then it is not communist/socialist. It's as simple as that. I'm Belarusian and I would tell anyone that today's Belarus is nowhere near resembling communism.

That's all. I don't want to drag politics any further into this, I've said what I had needed to.

China is not communist. :lol:


It's not that simple.

China's government has a strong origin-history in Marxist-Leninism which is derived from communism, later developed into Maoism, now revised once more for the 21st century.

The textbook communism most of you seem to think is necessary to fulfil the definition is an impossibility definition in the modern world. It isn't wrong to say China is communist, it's a shorthand way of expressing the ideological background of the ruling party and it is a meaningful descriptor as long as the reader knows not to interpret the term completely literally and "textbook". People need to stop correcting others for using the term in this thread as if China doesn't have any socio-political linkage in past decades to this broad school of ideology.

Obviously China has been largely economically capitalist for a few decades. That said the Chinese government owns far more of the country than in most free-market western european countries.

I find this a lot more interesting than another pointless discussion about popularity.

Martian Jeza
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:45 PM
amélie was competing among the best ALWAYS. Azarenka belongs to Generation Suck. Not the same n°1.

End of discussion.

I don't think you get the picture Amélie is from another generation... And I don't know why you go with Amélie : trying to be relevant ? Well, it failed miserably.

Martian Jeza
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:47 PM
China is not communist. :lol:



Has only all the appearances of a communist state then : just a coincidence...

Igor_Biscan
Aug 31st, 2012, 12:56 PM
Glad to see people aren't being biased at all.

For fans, being biased is a good thing.

améliemomo
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:07 PM
Azarenka was born much later..so how can she be part of that era? U clueless or brainless:confused:

omg:rolleyes:

you dont want to understand. We ALL know the actual tour is weak if compared to previous years. You can try to make her appear "special" as n°1, we all know she's NOT. If a player like wozniacki, safina can be n°1 everybody can. The fact she's anonymous it is because she's associated to this weak era plus all the reasons I named ealier. She can try all she can to get some attention she ll remain one of those several n°1 the tour had. Not special at all.

Jimmie48
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:30 PM
omg:rolleyes:

you dont want to understand. We ALL know the actual tour is weak if compared to previous years. You can try to make her appear "special" as n°1, we all know she's NOT. If a player like wozniacki, safina can be n°1 everybody can. The fact she's anonymous it is because she's associated to this weak era plus all the reasons I named ealier. She can try all she can to get some attention she ll remain one of those several n°1 the tour had. Not special at all.

You talk about her like her career is already over, how can you judge someone that has approximately completed much less than 50% of their whole career?

This is completely silly, nobody knows what kind of accomplishments she will have in the future so saying she will never be special is nonsense.

Rest Maria!
Aug 31st, 2012, 01:31 PM
I thought this is relevant to this thread, here is the most match conference transcript after David Ferrer's opening round victory. Ferrer is ranked #5 and seeded in USO as #4.
http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2012-08-29/201208291346277883406.html
It might be that more questions were asked and answered in Spanish, but still quite ridiculous.

miffedmax
Aug 31st, 2012, 02:38 PM
Has anybody given a thought to the fact that with two very popular players still in contention for the #1 spot (Serena and Martha), plus the fact that the #1 spot has been passed around like a hot potato for the last few years (with the exception of Woz, who did get a lot of endorsement deals out of it) that sponsors might be a little hesitant to shell out money this early in the game for Vika or Petra?

They definitely got burned throwing money at Ana and Woz, while Serena and Martha have proven to be stable, long-term investments. If I'm walking around with a bag of money and a new product--and I say this as a Vikastan--my first to calls are to Martha and Serena if I think a WTA sponsorship is going to boost my sales.

As far as drawing crowds, as any old-school wrestling fan knows, it takes longer for a heel to develop a following than a face. But once a heel has a strong following--even if it's a negative one--it's actually good for box office and you get as many people coming to hate on the heel as you do to root for the face, but heels also have a perverse following of their own. So in the long run, a bratty No.1 could be just what the game needs.

dsanders06
Aug 31st, 2012, 02:46 PM
Has anybody given a thought to the fact that with two very popular players still in contention for the #1 spot (Serena and Martha), plus the fact that the #1 spot has been passed around like a hot potato for the last few years (with the exception of Woz, who did get a lot of endorsement deals out of it) that sponsors might be a little hesitant to shell out money this early in the game for Vika or Petra?

They definitely got burned throwing money at Ana and Woz, while Serena and Martha have proven to be stable, long-term investments. If I'm walking around with a bag of money and a new product--and I say this as a Vikastan--my first to calls are to Martha and Serena if I think a WTA sponsorship is going to boost my sales.

As far as drawing crowds, as any old-school wrestling fan knows, it takes longer for a heel to develop a following than a face. But once a heel has a strong following--even if it's a negative one--it's actually good for box office and you get as many people coming to hate on the heel as you do to root for the face, but heels also have a perverse following of their own. So in the long run, a bratty No.1 could be just what the game needs.

I agree with this actually. I can just see her being a pantomime villain type for crowds in the future :lol: but she'll probably be more of a 'love to hate' figure than just a plain hate figure like Serena.

Fuzzylogic
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:15 PM
Many problems with her:

1. grunts
2. not charismatic and seems FAKE
3. trying sooo hard to look sympathic but fails
4. medias ignore her and dont think it will change since there still have "stars" on the tour (serena,screampova)
5. she's not that much appreciated by worldwide crowds

well not the ideal n°1 for sure!:lol:

You could make the first points 2 and 3 about Djokovic(and you'd be partially right tbh), yet he's still popular.

Stamp Paid
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:23 PM
I don't understand the response to Vika.
Shes #1, a slam winner, shes cute, feisty personality. :lol: Why is she not slaying? I think the media sees her as a half-rate Sharapova.

Rest Maria!
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:25 PM
You could make the first points 2 and 3 about Djokovic(and you'd be partially right tbh), yet he's still popular.
Nowhere near as Fedal.
Has anybody given a thought to the fact that with two very popular players still in contention for the #1 spot (Serena and Martha), plus the fact that the #1 spot has been passed around like a hot potato for the last few years (with the exception of Woz, who did get a lot of endorsement deals out of it) that sponsors might be a little hesitant to shell out money this early in the game for Vika or Petra?

They definitely got burned throwing money at Ana and Woz, while Serena and Martha have proven to be stable, long-term investments. If I'm walking around with a bag of money and a new product--and I say this as a Vikastan--my first to calls are to Martha and Serena if I think a WTA sponsorship is going to boost my sales.
That's why sponsors wasted no second to throw money at Li Na. :lol:

miffedmax
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:35 PM
Nowhere near as Fedal.

That's why sponsors wasted no second to throw money at Li Na. :lol:

Yeah. Because there's nothing that sets Li Na apart from oh, I don't know, every previous Slam winner.

Roookie
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:48 PM
I agree with this actually. I can just see her being a pantomime villain type for crowds in the future :lol: but she'll probably be more of a 'love to hate' figure than just a plain hate figure like Serena.

I also have the feeling that Azarenka could replace Serena as the WTA's villain where sbe retires. But those are big shoes to fill.

StoneRose
Aug 31st, 2012, 03:51 PM
I don't understand the response to Vika.
Shes #1, a slam winner, shes cute, feisty personality. :lol: Why is she not slaying? I think the media sees her as a half-rate Sharapova.Media are stupid, Maria and Vika are nothing alike, hell even their grunts are very different :lol:. A comparison between Vika and Serena would at least make more sense.

Martian Jeza
Aug 31st, 2012, 04:02 PM
Media are stupid, Maria and Vika are nothing alike, hell even their grunts are very different :lol:. A comparison between Vika and Serena would at least make more sense.

there's no bigger Ego on tour but Serena Williams so don't compare Vika with SW, pls.

Rest Maria!
Aug 31st, 2012, 05:25 PM
Yeah. Because there's nothing that sets Li Na apart from oh, I don't know, every previous Slam winner.

Which proves the point - Azarenka isn't getting (that many) endorsements because there's nothing remarkable (marketable) about her. She's a GS champion and been #1 for half a year already (with a brief break of 4 weeks maybe?) and everybody knows she's not going anywhere unless she suffers an accident/injury/illness.

Her job is to play great tennis and everything else is secondary, but let's not kid ourselves - she'd be racking way more contracts if she had eg. Ivanovic's looks and charm. Turmoil at the top of the rankings is a) not true b) would be a poor explanation even if it was true.

bandabou
Aug 31st, 2012, 05:26 PM
than just a plain hate figure like Serena.

:sobbing: Dsanders hates Serena....::bigcry::crying2:

hERi
Aug 31st, 2012, 05:32 PM
I think this is one of Vika's strategy to win the tittle..remember at AO when the crowds hated her, she could win the tittle

Let.them.talk
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:25 PM
only some freaks on TF cheer for her.
I'll take this as a compliment (?)

Yes!Vika is anonymous, only 12 pages in the thread u.u

miffedmax
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:36 PM
Which proves the point - Azarenka isn't getting (that many) endorsements because there's nothing remarkable (marketable) about her. She's a GS champion and been #1 for half a year already (with a brief break of 4 weeks maybe?) and everybody knows she's not going anywhere unless she suffers an accident/injury/illness.

Her job is to play great tennis and everything else is secondary, but let's not kid ourselves - she'd be racking way more contracts if she had eg. Ivanovic's looks and charm. Turmoil at the top of the rankings is a) not true b) would be a poor explanation even if it was true.

Um, whatever. I've only worked in advertising and marketing for 20 years. What would I know?

The fact is that as of now, Martha and Serena are far more viable than any other #1, whether it's Vika or Petra or anybody else. If it was obvious somebody was going to make a long run at the top and supplant either one of them, there are companies that would be willing to throw money their way.

There is always something "special" about somebody who is the best at their sport.

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 07:40 PM
Media are stupid, Maria and Vika are nothing alike, hell even their grunts are very different :lol:. A comparison between Vika and Serena would at least make more sense.

Maria and Serena's grunts are actually more similar. They're both used for intimidation, are true grunts, have similar duration's, and get louder with the intensity of the match.

Vika and Serena's grunts are nothing alike.

And Vika's grunt (if you can call it that) is unique to the tour. It's almost like a whistle.

Just saying.

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:01 PM
Um, whatever. I've only worked in advertising and marketing for 20 years. What would I know?

The fact is that as of now, Martha and Serena are far more viable than any other #1, whether it's Vika or Petra or anybody else. If it was obvious somebody was going to make a long run at the top and supplant either one of them, there are companies that would be willing to throw money their way.

There is always something "special" about somebody who is the best at their sport.

I think you're simplifying what most people are discussing here Max.

Serena and Sharapova are a different argument entirely, cause even though she wasn't that famous outside of Tennis, WOZNIAKI got more play and attention from the media than Azarenka does now. For what ever reason (I can give a few, if I wanted), they're not that interested in her.

Being pretty and have attitudes or not, don't really mean scratch. You're right, you gotta win. There's a lot of pretty tennis players that no one knows about. And the most prominent in recent and past history are all winners, and generally not considered "attractive" women.

As far as Petra; remember they were all heavy on Petra at the end of 2011 and the beginning of 2012. They pushed Wozniaki aside and were ready to hail Petra as the next "Great One", and Petra didn't attain number one (though she came very close), and/or win a major, so they cooled off.

So you're right in saying, that the Media and endorsers would rather go with what they perceive as a "sure thing". But Serena Williams is the one that carries the tour now (with Martha playing a bit supporting role, as she just started to win again, and with most non-tennis fans Serena is the one that gets them interested in the sport).

With Kvitova, as I noted earlier, the media actually likes Petra and find her very charming. And of course, they respect her tennis talent as well. But as you noted, Petra needs to produce and win 1 or two more majors, and/or #1 for them to go all out again on her. But they're warming her up, with her new English speaking PR person.

Back to Vika now. It doesn't help Azarenka (as you had mentioned), that there's been so much flux in the rankings this year, 3 different winners for the first 3 majors, and the fact that Serena just came off of a dominant Wimbledon and Olympics (though that may have nothing with her winning the US Open). The press is all over Serena right now, and when they're not, they feel anyone women can win. And that's one of the reasons, why some people don't even realize that Vika is #1. There's been so much flux, though she was number one earlier in the year (though that's considered a distant memory as Vika, Pova and Serena dominated the first 3 seasons of the year).

These things (and players) will shake themselves out the next 1-3 yrs.

Wiggly
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:08 PM
One thing that doesn't help Azarenka is that she's pretty much Sharapova 2.0 for the media.

Similar background, going to the US as a young girl, USSR roots, blonde and the grunts.
There's nothing new to write about.

Excelscior
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:25 PM
One thing that doesn't help Azarenka is that she's pretty much Sharapova 2.0 for the media.

Similar background, going to the US as a young girl, USSR roots, blonde and the grunts.
There's nothing new to write about.

Good point.

From a marketing stand point/segment, they are very similar on and off the court (minus a few things here and there), to PR people, who love to generalize.

Only their results on the court, would truly separate them. And right now, Sharapova already has it on Vika regarding the whole attitude /diva thing, as well as winning and championship pedigree (at the moment).

Patrick345
Aug 31st, 2012, 08:28 PM
Another reason is that Vika just seems like more of a private person and doesn´t enjoy the spotlight like a Serena or Wozniacki. You know who is probably the closest to Azarenka personality wise? Steffi Graf. Also a fierce competitor on the court, who always appeared cold and distant off the court, because she tried to keep her private life private. The affairs of her father and the tax fraud case only deepened those feelings imho, probably in the same way all the grunting questions do for Vika.

JadeFox
Aug 31st, 2012, 10:04 PM
I think the main problem is that the tennis media tries too hard to manufacture stories for these players. They think tennis is some type of reality show and they can script what happens next. Well the past 4 years proved them wrong and yet they still try to force personas and memes onto a player. With Vika the meme is grunting bitch. And we know how the press can be once they've slapped a persona on someone it's hard for that person to get rid of it.

and another reason that has already been touched upon is that in the American press they know that after Venus and serena there are no Americans that can compete with these younger Europeans. It's rather funny watching them overpraise some American girl who achieves modest success but when it came to Petra, Vika and Caro they all had to actually accomplish something big to get press. and even then as in the case of Vika proves that doesn't mean one will get a lot of positive press. They would love it if Maria were to become American but since she chose to stay Russian and cementing love for her native country by carrying the Russian flag at the Olympics they give her shit for that too.

So if any press people are reading this here's some advice: Stop trying to force storylines and report on what's actually happening. And quit being so biased towards certain players because it's not working and rather pathetic.

duhcity
Sep 1st, 2012, 02:19 AM
I'm convinced she's gotten media training this week, and the wheels are in motion.
This talk about her getting an apartment in New York, the joking about music, talking about Ashe night matches as a dream and watching on TV, praising everything about New York and hyping up the crowd.

And now the dancing.

Get it Vika :hearts:

Patrick345
Sep 1st, 2012, 02:23 AM
I'm convinced she's gotten media training this week, and the wheels are in motion.
This talk about her getting an apartment in New York, the joking about music, talking about Ashe night matches as a dream and watching on TV, praising everything about New York and hyping up the crowd.

And now the dancing.

Get it Vika :hearts:

Let´s say the flow was better than in Indian Wells. She remembered to put in growing up on American hardcourts in Arizona, too. But she was pretty charming and fun during her on-court interviews during the Aussie Open. Her problem really seems to be with the journalists at press conferences.

faboozadoo15
Sep 1st, 2012, 02:27 AM
She was excellent tonight, really showed the best parts of her personality.

oh yeah i guess
Sep 1st, 2012, 02:43 AM
She was excellent tonight, really showed the best parts of her personality.

Agreed, but you just know her detractors will ignore it.

Kworb
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:12 AM
Her post-match personality is irrelevant. I only watched two games and couldn't bear hearing any more. I have no idea how her opponents can even concentrate. Well, I guess most of them can't. Jie certainly couldn't.

Martian Jeza
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:14 AM
Her post-match personality is irrelevant. I only watched two games and couldn't bear hearing any more. I have no idea how her opponents can even concentrate. Well, I guess most of them can't. Jie certainly couldn't.

:help: :help: :help: :help: Except being "fan" of Dementieva : who do you "support" in tennis ?

LUVMIRZA
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:33 AM
@kworb, its not annoying. I watch so many of Maria's and Vika's matches. U feel the noise in the beginning then u get used to it and don't get distracted at all. Venus grunts loud, Serena is so loud at times, schiavone grunts and don't forget that Dementieva grunts too. I understand u hate Vika but don't
tell me that's coz of her grunt.

duhcity
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:37 AM
Her post-match personality is irrelevant. I only watched two games and couldn't bear hearing any more. I have no idea how her opponents can even concentrate. Well, I guess most of them can't. Jie certainly couldn't.

If you ever go live that might change.

I find MJMS and Schiavone like grunts more annoying than Vika.

oh yeah i guess
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:53 AM
:help: :help: :help: :help: Except being "fan" of Dementieva : who do you "support" in tennis ?

He doesn't support anyone. He spends his time wailing about how Azarenka and Kvitova are 'ruining' tennis (somehow).

SymphonyX
Sep 1st, 2012, 05:05 AM
She's boring and sounds like a butch lesbian while speaking English. Someone like Li on the other hand, her English might be rather broken but she's engaging and willing to chat. The likes of Azarenka wish "it would just end". It's easy to see how she contrasts to players like Li, Serena, Maria, Kim, etc. who are interview favorites.

garwe
Sep 1st, 2012, 05:17 AM
In my opinon the WTA is fine. Vika has been in the shadows as the world sport super stars Serena and Maria had good years and the focus has been on them.

I'm a fan of Victoria though and as long as she continue to be competitive in majors people will start to focus on her more and more.

Regarding fan recognition and endorsement, i think she is fine. Sure others have more but they in general won majors (casual fan recognition) during a period of 8 years or more.

Freakan
Sep 1st, 2012, 10:42 AM
I think the main problem is that the tennis media tries too hard to manufacture stories for these players. They think tennis is some type of reality show and they can script what happens next. Well the past 4 years proved them wrong and yet they still try to force personas and memes onto a player. With Vika the meme is grunting bitch. And we know how the press can be once they've slapped a persona on someone it's hard for that person to get rid of it.

Vika tried this too with her "I almost retired from tennis" story but failed as this was simply bunch of BS and she couldn't sell it right.
There's nothing outstanding about her and that makes her boring for the media.

oh yeah i guess
Sep 1st, 2012, 11:20 AM
Vika tried this too with her "I almost retired from tennis" story but failed as this was simply bunch of BS and she couldn't sell it right.
There's nothing outstanding about her and that makes her boring for the media.

How do you know? Source?

Michalka
Sep 1st, 2012, 11:48 AM
hating on Vika still :rolleyes:

joco66
Sep 1st, 2012, 12:43 PM
i hated the interview yesterday and the dance :facepalm:..., i mean cmon so fake and unpleasent to watch even the smile seemed forced, such a great performance tenniswise just to spoil it with that bullshit

Freakan
Sep 1st, 2012, 12:59 PM
How do you know? Source?

Every player has thoughts about retirement during tougher periods but hardly anyone makes a big deal out of it, the way she did. She never even took an extended break or anything like Dokic, Lucic, Li etc, so it's no wonder she couldn't sell this story.

Break My Rapture
Sep 1st, 2012, 01:06 PM
Every player has thoughts about retirement during tougher periods but hardly anyone makes a big deal out of it, the way she did. She never even took an extended break or anything like Dokic, Lucic, Li etc, so it's no wonder she couldn't sell this story.
The media made a big deal out of it, not Azarenka. You need to learn the difference.

Rest Maria!
Sep 1st, 2012, 01:09 PM
That's because they couldn't find anything interesting about her and they had to cover the AO champion.

Fantasy Hero
Sep 1st, 2012, 01:13 PM
how can you say so, she DOES make some noise :shrug:

Freakan
Sep 1st, 2012, 01:16 PM
The media made a big deal out of it, not Azarenka. You need to learn the difference.

The media did help but she had to tell about it in the first place, it's not like the media made it up.

Excelscior
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:14 PM
Every player has thoughts about retirement during tougher periods but hardly anyone makes a big deal out of it, the way she did. She never even took an extended break or anything like Dokic, Lucic, Li etc, so it's no wonder she couldn't sell this story.

Good Points.

I'm sure Ana Ivanovic, Jankovic, Dokic, Del Potro, Donald Young and many others have thought about retirement (and had more reason to do so), but were smart enough to keep it to themselves, unless they truly had hit rock bottom.

In the case of Vika, she was still way to young, promising and unaccomplshed to seriously consider retirement. For what!?

If anything, it made her appear unstable, self absorbed, out of touch or disingenuous, cause the story just made no sense.

She's 23 now (or will be). What was that, two years ago when she was 21?...C'Mon! :rolleyes:

She had so many more things to accomplish. Now, if she fell out of the top 30 for the next two years, the story would make more sense.

Natural Joe
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:39 PM
Vika tried this too with her "I almost retired from tennis" story but failed as this was simply bunch of BS and she couldn't sell it right.
There's nothing outstanding about her and that makes her boring for the media.

When did she say that she almost retired from tennis? As far as I know she considered taking a break from the sport but her grandmother convinced her otherwise. That's a big difference actually.

Freakan
Sep 1st, 2012, 03:58 PM
When did she say that she almost retired from tennis? As far as I know she considered taking a break from the sport but her grandmother convinced her otherwise. That's a big difference actually.

In interview with Ellen Degeneres and Ellen brought up this topic, so Vika must have talked about it before.

KournikovaFan91
Sep 1st, 2012, 04:07 PM
Sky sports told us Laura Robson has more twitter followers than her. :o

Gotta love Sky sports' irrelevance :tape:

Melange
Sep 1st, 2012, 04:20 PM
Laura's twitter is funny

Laura Robson ‏@laurarobson5
Yessss @carlyraejepsen at @usopen today. Pumped to sing along to #callmemaybe

Natural Joe
Sep 1st, 2012, 04:24 PM
In interview with Ellen Degeneres and Ellen brought up this topic, so Vika must have talked about it before.

Before the AO final, the WTA published an article on their homepage where it said "Twelve months ago, Azarenka contemplated taking a break from the game after a painful fourth round loss at the Australian Open to Li Na. And were it not for a post-tournament heart-to-heart with her grandmother, the 22-year-old might have been watching this year's tournament from the sofa rather than competing in it." I guess this "taking a break" thing was exaggerated by the media as if she actually wanted to retire from the sport. "Quitting" tennis, as mentioned on Ellen, could as well be quitting for a shorter period of time (i.e. "taking a break"). If there are any other sources where she actually said that she wanted to retire from tennis I would be eager to know.

danieln1
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:00 PM
Another fail for her, she is the first number one in history of the US Open to have a "this match may be moved" next to her scheduled.match on Ashe stadium...

Mr.Sharapova
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:08 PM
She doesn't have the star quality that the likes of Serena and Maria have :shrug:, it's not a bad thing obviously and it's not her fault.

Mary Cherry.
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:36 PM
Every player has thoughts about retirement during tougher periods but hardly anyone makes a big deal out of it, the way she did. She never even took an extended break or anything like Dokic, Lucic, Li etc, so it's no wonder she couldn't sell this story.

The media made a big deal out of it, not Azarenka. You need to learn the difference.

This. In fact when she's been asked about it in the press since then she kind of shrugs off the question as if she doesn't want to make a big deal out of it.

Mary Cherry.
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:37 PM
Sky sports told us Laura Robson has more twitter followers than her. :o

Gotta love Sky sports' irrelevance :tape:

Sky Sports think that winners = points won.

I'm not joking.

Break My Rapture
Sep 2nd, 2012, 01:42 PM
Another fail for her, she is the first number one in history of the US Open to have a "this match may be moved" next to her scheduled.match on Ashe stadium...
:haha:

At least she's still on the schedule in the second week of this tournament as #1.

Before the AO final, the WTA published an article on their homepage where it said "Twelve months ago, Azarenka contemplated taking a break from the game after a painful fourth round loss at the Australian Open to Li Na. And were it not for a post-tournament heart-to-heart with her grandmother, the 22-year-old might have been watching this year's tournament from the sofa rather than competing in it." I guess this "taking a break" thing was exaggerated by the media as if she actually wanted to retire from the sport. "Quitting" tennis, as mentioned on Ellen, could as well be quitting for a shorter period of time (i.e. "taking a break"). If there are any other sources where she actually said that she wanted to retire from tennis I would be eager to know.
Exactly. Same for that Ellen interview right after she won AO, Ellen started talking about how she was close to retiring just a year before and tried forming it into an inspirational story. The media did the most to blow up that "story". Like Mary Cherry said, Vika nearly always shrugs off that question when she's asked about it.

tennisbear7
Sep 2nd, 2012, 03:36 PM
:haha:

At least she's still on the schedule in the second week of this tournament as #1.


Exactly. Same for that Ellen interview right after she won AO, Ellen started talking about how she was close to retiring just a year before and tried forming it into an inspirational story. The media did the most to blow up that "story". Like Mary Cherry said, Vika nearly always shrugs off that question when she's asked about it.

Trolling Tennisforum defending your fave. NID. Some Vuvurenka fans proving they're about as interesting as their fave. :sad:

Now watch them leap all over me and tell me that Ana sucks. Gurls, I know. :lol:

machinist
Sep 2nd, 2012, 03:57 PM
I like Azarenka. The fact that she is not a dumb cutie is refreshing. There is nothing wrong with her personality.
If I were her I would be happy to stay under the radar a bit. There is no point building up hype around her if she is likely to be destroyed by Williams in every tournament they meet.

StoneRose
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:01 PM
Trolling Tennisforum defending your fave. NID. Some Vuvurenka fans proving they're about as interesting as their fave. :sad:

Now watch them leap all over me and tell me that Ana sucks. Gurls, I know. :lol::confused:, i see no trolling from Desuetude here. And FYI i hope Ana wins her next match.

Break My Rapture
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:05 PM
Trolling Tennisforum defending your fave. NID. Some Vuvurenka fans proving they're about as interesting as their fave. :sad:

Now watch them leap all over me and tell me that Ana sucks. Gurls, I know. :lol:
I found it amusing how @danieln1 gauged her relevancy as #1 by a 'this match may be moved' note on a fucking OOP. :lol: I'm sorry my fave only gives haters such petulant reasons to hate on her. :shrug:

hurricanejeanne
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:11 PM
I found it amusing how @danieln1 gauged her relevancy as #1 by a 'this match may be moved' note on a fucking OOP. :lol: I'm sorry my fave only gives haters such petulant reasons to hate on her. :shrug:

Our favorite is hated because she's relevant.

pov
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:48 PM
I just watched Friday's interview with Azarenka and IMO there's a lot to like about her.

http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2012-08-31/201209011346512028791.html

Matt01
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:52 PM
Another fail for her, she is the first number one in history of the US Open to have a "this match may be moved" next to her scheduled.match on Ashe stadium...


Please tell me you're not serious :facepalm:

miffedmax
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:54 PM
Vika has done more to restore credibility of the #1 ranking than anyone since Justine retired.

The only thing she hasn't done is beat Serena, which would be the last piece of the puzzle.

That is the reality.

tennisbum79
Sep 2nd, 2012, 04:58 PM
Sky sports told us Laura Robson has more twitter followers than her. :o

Gotta love Sky sports' irrelevance :tape:

Is Sky sports owned by Murdoch?

Rest Maria!
Sep 2nd, 2012, 05:00 PM
Vika has done more to restore credibility of the #1 ranking than anyone since Justine retired.

What about Jameka in 2010 before she cut her foot?:o

danieln1
Sep 2nd, 2012, 05:12 PM
Please tell me you're not serious :facepalm:

I forgot the :oh: gif :lol:

It was not hating on her, it´s just that is odd that the current number 1 has this "information" next to her schedule match :cool:

Brad[le]y.
Sep 2nd, 2012, 05:17 PM
I forgot the :oh: gif :lol:

It was not hating on her, it´s just that is odd that the current number 1 has this "information" next to her schedule match :cool:

No Robson in your sig? :eek: :oh:

Break My Rapture
Sep 2nd, 2012, 05:20 PM
I forgot the :oh: gif :lol:

It was not hating on her, it´s just that is odd that the current number 1 has this "information" next to her schedule match :cool:
Maybe it's because there are two mens matches before her and if they last too long, the day matches will run into the night session which would fuck up the schedule. So in case that happens, they have to move the last day match to a different court. It actually has nothing to do with who is playing in that third slot of the day matches on AA.

tennisbum79
Sep 2nd, 2012, 05:21 PM
Vika has done more to restore credibility of the #1 ranking than anyone since Justine retired.

The only thing she hasn't done is beat Serena, which would be the last piece of the puzzle.

That is the reality.

How about Maria?

Morrissey
Sep 2nd, 2012, 06:37 PM
Prove it please.

The Australian Open has the LOWEST profile of the four slams. You want proof NOBODY knew who Sharapova was until she won Wimbledon in 2004 suddenly after that victory she became a superstar OVERNIGHT. So yes, winning Wimbledon makes a tennis player FAMOUS and gets the player a lot of ATTENTION. Even making it to a Wimbledon final can change a tennis player's life. Back in 1990, Zina Garrison didn't have a shoe contract but once she reached the Wimbledon final she got a contract.The media across the world pay close attention to Wimbledon ALL THE TIME.

Jimmie48
Sep 2nd, 2012, 07:46 PM
So yes, winning Wimbledon makes a tennis player FAMOUS and gets the player a lot of ATTENTION.

Really? Somebody forgot to tell Kvitova then.

Rest Maria!
Sep 2nd, 2012, 07:49 PM
The Australian Open has the LOWEST profile of the four slams. You want proof NOBODY knew who Sharapova was until she won Wimbledon in 2004 suddenly after that victory she became a superstar OVERNIGHT. So yes, winning Wimbledon makes a tennis player FAMOUS and gets the player a lot of ATTENTION. Even making it to a Wimbledon final can change a tennis player's life. Back in 1990, Zina Garrison didn't have a shoe contract but once she reached the Wimbledon final she got a contract.The media across the world pay close attention to Wimbledon ALL THE TIME.
a) Sharapova was 17(!) years old at the time, had she won any other slam she would get similar levels of media attention
b) no, the runner-up doesn't really matter, it's all about the champion, no matter which tournament. It was Serena who got all the headlines, the girl she beat was not even secondary

Excelscior
Sep 2nd, 2012, 09:04 PM
Really? Somebody forgot to tell Kvitova then.

This is so amusing.

Boy that's not what you and your cronies were crying end of 2011/ beginning of 2012, when you called her overhyped and saying/praying she didn't deserve all the media attention-when they brushed Caro aside-championing Kvitova; her 2012 Aussie Fave status and predictions of multiple slams/greatness, etc. from the same media. :oh:

Cry me a river please. You guys all thought and wanted Kvitova to be out the top 10 by now. :lol:

It never ceases to amaze me how bitter Caro fans always wanna sound, when their player is irrelevant with out a #1 ranking (unless their talking about her many problems, her musical coaches, futile tennis game and tumbling ranking). :lol:

But keep talking/putting your foot in it. SMH. Gotta Luv it.

Jimmie48
Sep 2nd, 2012, 09:06 PM
Boy that's not what you and your cronies were crying end of 2011/ beginning of 2012, when you called her overhyped and saying/praying she didn't deserve all the media attention-brushing Caro aside, 2012 Aussie Fave status and predictions of multiple slams/greatness, etc. from the media. :oh:


Like many others before, you mistake TF for the real world..it isn't. They hype regarding Kvitova was in here yes, but never in the real world.

Excelscior
Sep 2nd, 2012, 09:18 PM
Like many others before, you mistake TF for the real world..it isn't. They hype regarding Kvitova was in here yes, but never in the real world.

I was talking strictly about the media.

And if I have to prove that to you, then you're actually dumber than I thought.

Who do you think voted her player of the year in every official WTA/ITF, Sports organization (like the Laureus) and media award; then promoted it?

Who do you think argued that Kvitova was the real #1 in 2011? The Media.

Who do you think made her the favorite of the 2012 Aussie Open (it was the media and the oddsmakers)?

Why do you think despite all your protest, no one considered Wozniaki in the media the real #1 or player of the year last year.

Lastly, everyone in the media from Sam Smith, Mary Jo Fernandez, Tracy Austin, Martina Hingis, Darren Cahill, Navratilova, John McEnroe etc., have spoken about Kvitova in superlatives (such "can she take women's tennis to another level", and "sure multiple grand slam winner", and "one of the best prospects in years", etc, whether any of that pans out or not. Last that I knew, they were in the media, or at least told the media this in Hingis's case.

Obviously, you don't read, listen or get to experience media much (but more than likely got your head buried up Caro's ass).

But keep believing what you're believing, cause your fave has no talent , A slam or a future.

Matt01
Sep 2nd, 2012, 09:22 PM
This is so amusing.

Boy that's not what you and your cronies were crying end of 2011/ beginning of 2012, when you called her overhyped and saying/praying she didn't deserve all the media attention-when they brushed Caro aside-championing Kvitova; her 2012 Aussie Fave status and predictions of multiple slams/greatness, etc. from the same media. :oh:

Cry me a river please. You guys all thought and wanted Kvitova to be out the top 10 by now. :lol:

It never ceases to amaze me how bitter Caro fans always wanna sound, when their player is irrelevant with out a #1 ranking (unless their talking about her many problems, her musical coaches, futile tennis game and tumbling ranking). :lol:

But keep talking/putting your foot in it. SMH. Gotta Luv it.


Oh, Petra won finally won her first 2 tournmaents of the year (without any big competition) and you are already back with your Kvitova hype. :lol: :facepalm:

Excelscior
Sep 2nd, 2012, 09:26 PM
I see the Carolina Crazies are out again (aren't they embarrassed enough). :shrug:

You guys are like Maggots (always trying to take over another player/topics thread with your shit).

SMH

I'm not going to be drawn in any more. I'm done.

Hilarious.

Jimmie48
Sep 2nd, 2012, 09:42 PM
Oh, Petra won finally won her first 2 tournmaents of the year (without any big competition) and you are already back with your Kvitova hype. :lol: :facepalm:

It's funny, until a few weeks ago the Kvitova fans were nowhere to be found in here and suddenly they pop back up and talk big game again.

cowsonice
Sep 2nd, 2012, 10:05 PM
I think sponsorships for Maria and Serena on a whole different level--high-end, premium, luxury goods, outside of the tennis-related products, of course, barring their racket and clothing deals.

Wozniacki was able to milk her #1 status good in terms of endorsements. Woz was popular when she was #1, even if it had an asterik, but this popularity went hand-in-hand with the fact that she appeared everywhere from Compeed blister packs to Turkish Airlines.

Part of being popular at #1 may have to be creating a hype machine, making you seem like the looming figure in the WTA.

Vika doesn't do this. She's got solid deals with Wilson and Nike and not too much from the outside.
At the same time, Vika is Maria Sharapova-lite, the grunting, their ground games (more aesthetically speaking. And Vika's sassiness towards journalists is a lesser version of Serena's.

oh yeah i guess
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:46 AM
I see the Carolina Crazies are out again (aren't they embarrassed enough). :shrug:

You guys are like Maggots (always trying to take over another player/topics thread with your shit).

SMH

I'm not going to be drawn in any more. I'm done.

Hilarious.

To be honest, isn't that what you've been doing with your Kvitova-related posts?

nealcaffrey
Sep 3rd, 2012, 09:56 AM
The Australian Open has the LOWEST profile of the four slams. You want proof NOBODY knew who Sharapova was until she won Wimbledon in 2004 suddenly after that victory she became a superstar OVERNIGHT. So yes, winning Wimbledon makes a tennis player FAMOUS and gets the player a lot of ATTENTION. Even making it to a Wimbledon final can change a tennis player's life. Back in 1990, Zina Garrison didn't have a shoe contract but once she reached the Wimbledon final she got a contract.The media across the world pay close attention to Wimbledon ALL THE TIME.

ridiculous
so seles,henin,clijsters pretty much irrelevant coz they all never won wimbledon

StoneRose
Sep 3rd, 2012, 10:10 AM
It's funny, until a few weeks ago the Kvitova fans were nowhere to be found in here and suddenly they pop back up and talk big game again.Indeed and guess what.... :rolls:. One of them even thought Petra had the form to beat Vika, on outdoor American HC :help:, back to your delusion. It's like it is the whole year of course, no Vika-Petra match because Petra doesn't go deep enough to make it there.

Rest Maria!
Sep 3rd, 2012, 10:29 AM
Indeed and guess what.... :rolls:. One of them even thought Petra had the form to beat Vika, on outdoor American HC :help:, back to your delusion. It's like it is the whole year of course, no Vika-Petra match because Petra doesn't go deep enough to make it there.

What if Vika doesn't reach SF either? :oh: You won't be able to fault only Petra for this match-up not happening.:angel:

StoneRose
Sep 3rd, 2012, 10:44 AM
What if Vika doesn't reach SF either? :oh: You won't be able to fault only Petra for this match-up not happening.:angel:Sure but i think she'll get there. If not, too bad but there would still have been other occasions this year where Petra missed the boat.

graffite
Sep 3rd, 2012, 05:02 PM
So, did they have to entice reporters to the presser by having REDFOO there? Or is this a statement to Sam? ;-)
Just kidding, good interview (http://www.usopen.org/en_US/news/interviews/2012-09-02/201209031346682132598.html)though.

Some1
Sep 6th, 2012, 11:54 PM
Sorry to bump this thread but this article pretty much goes with it : http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/20120906/victoria-azarenka-us-open/index.html

From Andrew Lawrence (SI.com) :

NEW YORK -- Victoria Azarenka's shining moment of the U.S. Open so far did not come on Ashe Stadium center court, where, most recently, the top-seeded Belarusian ousted reigning champion Sam Stosur of Australia to advance to the semifinal round here for the first time. It came just a short walk from the court, inside a room too big to call a studio, too small to call an auditorium -- and yet just right for a performance. Its broad dais, bright lights and theater seating set a high bar, and when the stars fall short the exit reviews can be stinging.

Azarenka? She killed. Her headlining press conference following her 6-1, 4-6, 7-6 victory was a tour de force, thoughtful, endearing and -- perhaps most stunning of all -- fun. It was also a major breakthrough for the 23-year-old, who until recently entered such gatherings with the wariness of a woman asked to stick her head in a beehive.

On Tuesday, in Interview room 1 at Ashe Stadium, Azarenka was honest about her ambitions and how she struggles to reconcile her desire to chase the rush of raising a trophy "everywhere I go" with not wanting to "get too far ahead of myself." She was sweet, expressing genuine surprise when asked about her lone ace in the match, a 92 mph torpedo down the T that erased a break point chance at 5-all in the third set. "Why do you guys say I served an ace?" said a giggling Azarenka, whose clutch play helped ensure she'll retain the No. 1 spot when the new rankings are released on Monday. "Did I? (...) Seriously?"
She even was flattering to her possible semifinal opponents -- including Russia's Maria Sharapova, whom she will face on Friday in Ashe (Sharapova beat Marion Bartoli of France in three sets there on Wednesday). "Maria is always one of these players that will give it her all no matter what the score is," Azarenka said. "She's always fighting."

Simply put: Azarenka owned the room. And who thought that possible after the obliging Stosur news conference that came just before? It had ended with a trophy presentation, after all. The USTA sent her home with a $5,000 silver bowl from Tiffany's, a token of appreciation for the good sportsmanship she exhibited on the court and beyond during the North American hardcourt season. It was a fitting send-off for a player who would win over the press with her grace and generous spirit long before claiming her first major. But on this afternoon she had nothing on Azarenka. If not for the time commitments on both sides of the dais, who knows how much longer she would've held this tough crowd in her palm, how many more critics she could have squeezed into saying She was great! as they streamed out of the aisles?

This Azarenka was 180-degrees from the one who had never met an audience of reporters she couldn't text in front of, the one for whom one-word answers were the norm. Before long, so too was this group ignoring almost every bit of her but the goose honk that punctuates her every stroke.

No young player goes into a relationship with the media easily, much less willingly. It's just another one of those things -- like picking a coach or scheduling practices -- that gets sorted by trial and error. "There's no manual for it," said Jim Courier, who could've written the book on what not to do. During his time on tour in the late 1980s through the early-2000s, the U.S. Davis Cup captain might have claimed even fewer admirers in the Fourth Estate than Azarenka. Why? "I was definitely a little caustic at times," he said. "I got burned with a couple articles early on. It took me a while to figure out how to play the game a little bit better."
Every player brings a different strategy. Not all of them are winners. James Blake's is to speak ad nauseam and say nothing. Andy Roddick's is to always -- always -- be the smartest guy in the room. Roger Federer cloaks his arrogance in his ability to speak four languages with the utmost politeness. Novak Djokovic deflects serious questions about his game with a hair-trigger sense of humor.

Sharapova lets her eight-figure endorsement portfolio speak on her behalf; rarely does she undermine its well-crafted message, one that casts her as the Gwyneth Paltrow of tennis -- tall, blonde and replete with good taste.

But some missteps came this month. On the eve of the fortnight she appeared on "Late Night with Jimmy Fallon" to promote her candy line. Days later, in separate appearances inside Interview Room 1, she leveled that news with a pair of bombs: In the first she revealed that she had submitted to an ultrasound as part of an investigation into a lingering flu bug, and it had showed that "I was fine, not pregnant." (A day later her agent, Max Eisenbud, visited the media room to emphasize that his client was kidding.) In the second she announced that her near two-year engagement to pro basketball player Sasha Vujacic was off.
So even the most well rehearsed pros get it wrong. There's no magic bullet, no one-size-fits-all approach. "Every player has to walk their own path as far as how they want to manage everything that happens outside of the court," Courier said.

Azarenka's problem was that she just didn't know how. She started out in tennis a bit of a loner, shipped to Arizona from her native Minsk as a teenager to pursue her tennis dream. She was facing her wonder years in a different culture, in a new language. If there was a phrase that stuck it was media obligation, and the last word was never lost in translation.

So worried was the WTA tour of someday winding up with a top ranked player that no one wants to talk to that they asked The Times of London's esteemed tennis writer Neil Harman to give her a crash course in media training after the 2011 Australian Open. The lesson: engage a little bit more. She put it into practice two months later, at the Miami Masters. When about half a dozen reporters showed up for a news conference before she was to meet Sharapova in the finals, Azarenka stepped down from the dais and sat among her inquisitors.

It's the kind of deft stroke that Courier didn't have to try when he was coming up. In his day, a player could get away with being prickly. Today, it pays to be nice. It's no coincidence that Courier's mellowing out dovetailed with the beginning of a second career as a broadcaster.

Azarenka, though, is still learning the game. And that game can still be cruel. She went the whole first week of this year's Wimbledon without being invited to speak at one of the two main pressrooms, where interviews are transcribed; no official record of her speaking existed until the fourth round. It was an astonishingly cold shoulder for a player who was ranked No. 2 in the world, had won the Australian Open and at one point this season was riding a 26-match win streak.

But inside Interview Room 1, these days, Azarenka finally feels the love. Her sessions have had robust attendance. One was even crashed by LMFAO frontman RedFoo, who flanked her on the dais. Call it payback for borrowing his signature jig to celebrate some of her victories. She spent the entire session with a huge smile on her face, like someone who's just figured out the steps to a new dance.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/tennis/news/20120906/victoria-azarenka-us-open/#ixzz25jlfGhEA

It's interesting to see how this US Open turned out to pretty good for Vika in terms of recognition.

StoneRose
Sep 7th, 2012, 12:30 AM
Nice article for sure :yeah: but nothing new here. This one from the article is well known at least amongst Vika fans: -- perhaps most stunning of all -- fun. Not at all stunning, look up the bagcheck video or another one posted somewhere in this thread.

oh yeah i guess
Sep 7th, 2012, 12:40 AM
Nice article. I liked it.

Wiggly
Sep 7th, 2012, 01:00 AM
I finally learned why Neil Harman is kissing her butt so much. :lol:

Rix643
Sep 7th, 2012, 03:55 AM
I met Vika inside an interview room.

All I can say I was not happy getting out of it.

Igor_Biscan
Sep 7th, 2012, 08:59 AM
NEW YORK -- Victoria Azarenka's shining moment of the U.S. Open so far did not come on Ashe Stadium center court, where, most recently, the top-seeded Belarusian ousted reigning champion Sam Stosur of Australia to advance to the semifinal round here for the first time. It came just a short walk from the court, inside a room too big to call a studio, too small to call an auditorium -- and yet just right for a performance. Its broad dais, bright lights and theater seating set a high bar, and when the stars fall short the exit reviews can be stinging.

This really grates on me, regardless of which player they might be talking about. She won a great tennis match. Ok. But she impressed the journalists in the press conference. SHINING MOMENT.

Rix643
Sep 7th, 2012, 09:33 AM
Of course. Journalists are very important. The public come to see the players, the players will have to go to the press when so desired (if not they get fined). Not the other way around. The conference rooms are near the press center, not the players lounge.

Think about it....

JadeFox
Sep 7th, 2012, 10:14 AM
This really grates on me, regardless of which player they might be talking about. She won a great tennis match. Ok. But she impressed the journalists in the press conference. SHINING MOMENT.

I just wanted you to know that I silently read this post with Vika's voice in my head. It was glorious. :lol: