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LoveMeansZero
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:55 PM
:bounce:

Jimmie48
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jerking it while writing the headline huh?

Edit: Spelling mistakes have been corrected now.

arthurussell
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:57 PM
http://i43.tinypic.com/f56lw6.jpg

aselto
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:58 PM
:bigwave:

I will not miss her, although Caketoli is not a better option. Woz is still young, she can still regain top level.

misty1
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:58 PM
hopefully she doesnt fall to far. I dont want to see yet another safina/jankovic like fall

Valanga
Aug 29th, 2012, 11:59 PM
From #1 to #11 in less than 9 months. Brutal.

NashaMasha
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:00 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m99uxi1TQM1r4zrxi.gif

DragonFlame
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:00 AM
And the freefall continues...

LoveMeansZero
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:01 AM
Jerking it while writing the headline huh?

Edit: Spelling mistakes have been corrected now.

Quite appropriate though, as she'll be "wooing" it from now on. But with no success...

brickhousesupporter
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:03 AM
I was waiting for someone to start this thread.

LoLex
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:04 AM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lmnt2j8zQn1qceno5.gif

gc-spurs
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:11 AM
Peakniacki would've had 15 pages in this thread by now.

Pops Maellard
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:11 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/austin_ap5/tumblr_lqrlhmKdKs1qaqwxm.gif

Ferg
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:12 AM
Cant believe Marion is top 10 after the season she's had since the clay :scared:

Nicolás89
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:23 AM
Good luck with Bartoli, she is such an improvement! :bigwave:

Kairi
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:23 AM
Who? :yawn:



:oh:

Blind Watchmaker
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:27 AM
Excellent :bounce:

Brad[le]y.
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:28 AM
Who? :yawn:



:oh:

this is just a perfect day for you isn't it? :lol:

M.S.F
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:36 AM
Bye Woz.

http://img715.imageshack.us/img715/4008/wwfrawiswar102698vhsrip.gif

Slampova
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:38 AM
This is like so yesterday :unsure:

Anywhooo, she can whore all the internationals with no top 10 restrictions next year and when Piotor makes a comment like 'Caroline will win Tashkent' people might actually believe it :sobbing:

Ferg
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:51 AM
This is like so yesterday :unsure:

Anywhooo, she can whore all the internationals with no top 10 restrictions next year and when Piotor makes a comment like 'Caroline will win Tashkent' people might actually believe it :sobbing:

If Marion didnt win today, Woz would still be top 10 I think.

NashaMasha
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:52 AM
Caroline Wozniacki, for all her weaknesses (yes, Rory McIlroy, you're on that list), has been a stellar player here at the U.S. Open.

Greg Garber , ESPN

tkutsaar
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:09 AM
I can understand not being a fan of Caro or cheering for every player she plays against, but I cannot understand the glee you haters (and you know who you are) seem to hold in her current slump. What pleasure can you poissibly derive from the misfortune or lack of success that Caro now is experiencing? If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her. All I can say is that if you harbor such hatred in your heart against a human being who cannot possibly have any significance in your personal life you must be a miserable person indeed.

BillFromRichmond
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:10 AM
Cant believe Marion is top 10 after the season she's had since the clay :scared:
Its because she racked up a ton of points early in the year on hard courts. Quarters, multiple semis and a couple of finals. She doesn't have a lot to defend after the US Open in 2012, but does the first 4 months of 2013.

Players to watch for breaking into the top ten are Kirilenko short term and possibly Safarova in 2013 if she keeps playing as she has.

JeMa
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:17 AM
It's Rory's fault.
Now we need Aga to get gone.

Boxuan
Aug 30th, 2012, 01:36 AM
Actually she's not that relevant, the reason she's been talked about so much is her wrong position as No.1 or top 5. Now she just went where she belongs, nothing surprising

doni1212
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:22 AM
:yeah: :banana:

Pops Maellard
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:29 AM
I can understand not being a fan of Caro or cheering for every player she plays against, but I cannot understand the glee you haters (and you know who you are) seem to hold in her current slump. What pleasure can you poissibly derive from the misfortune or lack of success that Caro now is experiencing? If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her. All I can say is that if you harbor such hatred in your heart against a human being who cannot possibly have any significance in your personal life you must be a miserable person indeed.

Relax, it's only tennis :rolls:.

justineheninfan
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:06 AM
I can understand not being a fan of Caro or cheering for every player she plays against, but I cannot understand the glee you haters (and you know who you are) seem to hold in her current slump. What pleasure can you poissibly derive from the misfortune or lack of success that Caro now is experiencing? If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her. All I can say is that if you harbor such hatred in your heart against a human being who cannot possibly have any significance in your personal life you must be a miserable person indeed.

I dont think anyone holds anything against Caroline personally. She seems a nice enough girl, an often deluded and misguided one who continues the tradition of farce #1s foot in mouth disaese at times, but with a good heart and fairly well spoken. The reason some might take glee in her downfull is:

1. Her ultra annoying uber fans on this site and in general. Just look at my sig and it pretty sums up what Woztards like kman, goldenlox, marineblue, Jimmie, Matt01, and the likes are all about. Truly the most stupid group of tennis fans on the planet, and that is saying something.

2. Seen as payback or schadenfreude for her computer year end #1 last year which while it was disregarded by pretty much all (including all governing bodies of tennis who unaminously crowned the computer #2 the #1 player and player of the year of 2011), was still the biggest injustice in womens tennis history, even in a terrible year for womens tennis where the rightful #1 herself would have still been one of the weakest in history, there was still clearly atleast 1 and probably more deserving than her from every angle. I would say it isnt her fault, but that isnt even entirely true, as she has even admited in interviews to going out of her way to utilize the ranking system (aka studying and abusing its loopholes). Her already aforementioned delusional fans acting as if she were actually the real #1 of 2011 (:lol::lol:) making the schadenfreude all the more appropriate.

3. Her game is plain boring and mediocre and such a player being at #1 or anywhere near it, even if it had been merited (which actually in late 2010/early 2011 it arguably was, or atleast within reason, based on results, totally different story by end of 2011) is nothing but the worst kind of bad for a of late struggling womens game. Even Radwanska whose appearance in the top 3 is seen as some crisis point for the womens game by many, plays a far more interesting game than Wozniacki does as she atleast uses variety and craft, not just pushing mediocre shots in the middle of the court and only trying to run down balls and keep balls in play.

4. She seems more interested in being a celebrity attached to the Rory Mcillroy name tage than playing tennis these days anyway.

5. Some of us just like me enjoy the fact our predictions of Wozniacki, which were largely based on complete objective and knowledge of the game, not personal bias, having the game style, early peaking signals, and opportustic circumstances of her rise, would likely lead to a decline around now, and were highly unlikely to ever lead to a slam title or a stay even near the top of the rankings, were absolutely right in light of the naysayers who did not respectfully disagree but mocked our suggestion which turned out to be 100% correct it seems.

moby
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:08 AM
Why is it Rory's fault? He's the closest she'll come to having greatness in her.

justineheninfan
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:10 AM
As for the top 10 god knows who will end the year at #10 as nobody really deserves it. Bartoli has played joke tennis 90% of the year, it just shows the low level the WTA continues to demonstrate that she is somehow back in the top 10. Her performance today which usurped Wozniacki for a top 10 spot was a joke, unbefitting of a top 10 player, but I guess by default she was the best there was. Personally I hope Kirilenko gets there. She is a better player than Bartoli or Wozniacki right now, or atleast certainly playing alot better tennis this year than either. Errani really is not top 10 caliber either but she is probably close to certain to stay there for this year, and her slam final justifies the brief fluke ranking. It is sad WTA currently has less than 10 worthy top 10 players.

dencod16
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:58 AM
Caroline Wozniacki, for all her weaknesses (yes, Rory McIlroy, you're on that list), has been a stellar player here at the U.S. Open.

Greg Garber , ESPN

100% percent accurate i think aside from this year she has done well here a final and 2 semis.

it-girl
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:55 AM
http://i.chzbgr.com/completestore/2011/7/18/675a8135-c79f-4ceb-b187-e8ba95ebbbce.gif

tkutsaar
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:24 AM
I dont think anyone holds anything against Caroline personally. She seems a nice enough girl, an often deluded and misguided one who continues the tradition of farce #1s foot in mouth disaese at times, but with a good heart and fairly well spoken. The reason some might take glee in her downfull is:

1. Her ultra annoying uber fans on this site and in general. Just look at my sig and it pretty sums up what Woztards like kman, goldenlox, marineblue, Jimmie, Matt01, and the likes are all about. Truly the most stupid group of tennis fans on the planet, and that is saying something.

2. Seen as payback or schadenfreude for her computer year end #1 last year which while it was disregarded by pretty much all (including all governing bodies of tennis who unaminously crowned the computer #2 the #1 player and player of the year of 2011), was still the biggest injustice in womens tennis history, even in a terrible year for womens tennis where the rightful #1 herself would have still been one of the weakest in history, there was still clearly atleast 1 and probably more deserving than her from every angle. I would say it isnt her fault, but that isnt even entirely true, as she has even admited in interviews to going out of her way to utilize the ranking system (aka studying and abusing its loopholes). Her already aforementioned delusional fans acting as if she were actually the real #1 of 2011 (:lol::lol:) making the schadenfreude all the more appropriate.

3. Her game is plain boring and mediocre and such a player being at #1 or anywhere near it, even if it had been merited (which actually in late 2010/early 2011 it arguably was, or atleast within reason, based on results, totally different story by end of 2011) is nothing but the worst kind of bad for a of late struggling womens game. Even Radwanska whose appearance in the top 3 is seen as some crisis point for the womens game by many, plays a far more interesting game than Wozniacki does as she atleast uses variety and craft, not just pushing mediocre shots in the middle of the court and only trying to run down balls and keep balls in play.

4. She seems more interested in being a celebrity attached to the Rory Mcillroy name tage than playing tennis these days anyway.

5. Some of us just like me enjoy the fact our predictions of Wozniacki, which were largely based on complete objective and knowledge of the game, not personal bias, having the game style, early peaking signals, and opportustic circumstances of her rise, would likely lead to a decline around now, and were highly unlikely to ever lead to a slam title or a stay even near the top of the rankings, were absolutely right in light of the naysayers who did not respectfully disagree but mocked our suggestion which turned out to be 100% correct it seems.

I commend you for your thoughtful response to my post, but in reality your explanations only point out reasons why one might not cheer for Caro and perhaps rejoice in her current failures. What I deplore and am complaining about is that some of the posters herein go extremely overboard in expressing their animus towards Caro which borders on the psychotic.

During Steffi’s career I was an ardent fan and admirer. I cheered for her and was disheartened when Monica Seles overtook her in the rankings. But never in my mind in cheering for Steffi would I ever think to wish someone would stab Monica so that Steffi could regain her hegemony over women’s tennis. And yet a German Steffi fan did just that. The vehement vitriol that some Caro haters spew on this board suggests that there is not much difference in their mind-set in cheering against Caro to that of the criminal stabber. The only difference being that presumably they are not prepared to act upon their hatred as the stabber did.

JeMa
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:31 AM
I can understand not being a fan of Caro or cheering for every player she plays against, but I cannot understand the glee you haters (and you know who you are) seem to hold in her current slump. What pleasure can you poissibly derive from the misfortune or lack of success that Caro now is experiencing? If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her. All I can say is that if you harbor such hatred in your heart against a human being who cannot possibly have any significance in your personal life you must be a miserable person indeed.

Why do you care so much? I have my favorites but I really don't care if people rip em apart on message boards because the are fucking millionaires and their lives don't fall apart because of a post on this thread. Caro has millions of dollars and is in love. Yeah she needs to straighten out her team and pull her game together. But I'm pretty sure she's okay regardless of what is said on these boards.

Why question is why are people so attached to people they don't even know?

Libertango
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:40 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/austin_ap5/tumblr_lqrlhmKdKs1qaqwxm.gif

Whilst I don't advocate a thread cheering someone's failures, THIS is AMAZING :hearts: :worship:

When's it from? I don't remember this hair.

djbueno
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:56 AM
Whilst I don't advocate a thread cheering someone's failures, THIS is AMAZING :hearts: :worship:

When's it from? I don't remember this hair.

AO 2011 :yeah:

Libertango
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:57 AM
^Thank you!

:worship:

Hurley
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:55 AM
If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her.

I have one simple question for you.

"Have you been to school?"

Lin Lin
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:22 AM
Caro will be back soon:wavey:

Sombrerero loco
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:28 AM
really? :hysteric: too bad

ananke
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:01 AM
Why is it Rory's fault? He's the closest she'll come to having greatness in her.

:oh:

lenas warriors
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:09 AM
Why is it Rory's fault? He's the closest she'll come to having greatness in her.

Eeewwww

Royals.
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:17 AM
LOL amazing! she was the WORST No 1 in WTA history, you should NOT be world No 1 if you haven't won a GS IMO. Her new man is keeping her distracted it seems too, she has lost all focus she once had.

Sam L
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:21 AM
From #1 to #11 in less than 9 months. Brutal.


This is the fault of the ranking system. She was never really No. 1 in the first place. It inflated her by allowing her to play a lot and accumulate points and now it's a free fall.

These kind of things never happened under Divisor because it was about averages and you slowly become No. 1 and you slowly drop from No. 1. Nothing sudden like this.

Valanga
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:22 AM
Caro will be back soon:wavey:

Is Odense 100K still happening

GrandMartha
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:00 AM
best news since ages :drool:

BillFromRichmond
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:02 AM
I can understand not being a fan of Caro or cheering for every player she plays against, but I cannot understand the glee you haters (and you know who you are) seem to hold in her current slump. What pleasure can you poissibly derive from the misfortune or lack of success that Caro now is experiencing? If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her. All I can say is that if you harbor such hatred in your heart against a human being who cannot possibly have any significance in your personal life you must be a miserable person indeed. Its par for the course on this board. There is a lot of hatred here.

brickhousesupporter
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:02 AM
Wow, Woz has really passed her peak. 9 months ago this thread would have been 10 pages by now. I guess her fans finally got what they wanted. People don't care about her enough to even troll.

Royals.
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:05 AM
Wow, Woz has really passed her peak. 9 months ago this thread would have been 10 pages by now. I guess her fans finally got what they wanted. People don't care about her enough to even troll.

She just doesn't seem as focused anymore. She reminds me of Jankovic, a top ten player for awhile then drops into the top 30/40.

BillFromRichmond
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:10 AM
As for the top 10 god knows who will end the year at #10 as nobody really deserves it. Bartoli has played joke tennis 90% of the year, it just shows the low level the WTA continues to demonstrate that she is somehow back in the top 10. Her performance today which usurped Wozniacki for a top 10 spot was a joke, unbefitting of a top 10 player, but I guess by default she was the best there was. Personally I hope Kirilenko gets there. She is a better player than Bartoli or Wozniacki right now, or atleast certainly playing alot better tennis this year than either. Errani really is not top 10 caliber either but she is probably close to certain to stay there for this year, and her slam final justifies the brief fluke ranking. It is sad WTA currently has less than 10 worthy top 10 players.

A joke year? Quarters at Sydney, Final at Paris, Semis at Doha, Quarters at Indian Wells and Miami, Semis at Eastbourne and a final at Carlsbad. Thats a pretty good record. She was #9 this time last year and has held her ground.

Juju Nostalgique
Aug 30th, 2012, 11:54 AM
Is Odense 100K still happening

:hysteric: :hysteric: :hysteric: :hysteric: :hysteric: :hysteric: :hysteric:

Today's a great day for tennis! :banana:

SEWTA :smooch:

Rankings, I know you've suffered a lot the last months. You're better now! :hug:

GrandMartha
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:00 PM
Rankings, I know you've suffered a lot the last months. You're better now! :hug:
:lol::lol::lol:
Yes, well said!
:worship: :worship: :worship:

C. Drone
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:28 PM
As for the top 10 god knows who will end the year at #10 as nobody really deserves it. Bartoli has played joke tennis 90% of the year, it just shows the low level the WTA continues to demonstrate that she is somehow back in the top 10. Her performance today which usurped Wozniacki for a top 10 spot was a joke, unbefitting of a top 10 player, but I guess by default she was the best there was. Personally I hope Kirilenko gets there. She is a better player than Bartoli or Wozniacki right now, or atleast certainly playing alot better tennis this year than either. Errani really is not top 10 caliber either but she is probably close to certain to stay there for this year, and her slam final justifies the brief fluke ranking. It is sad WTA currently has less than 10 worthy top 10 players.

currently? revisionist crap. :lol: "WTA Rankings" never had more than 5-8 worthy players.
Either a few dominates and the rest losing every week or everybody beats everybody and whole turns into a mess.

olivero
Aug 30th, 2012, 12:56 PM
What's so great about having #1 fall to #11 so quickly?

fluffyelloballz
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:33 PM
Poor Caro. Shows how mental tennis is. She was YE No.1 for two consecutive seasons. She made a major final. She is an excellent player.
And now she is losing in the first round of her best slam.
One wonders how she would be faring if she didn't have to do all those stupid interviews answering questions about whether or not she is good enough to be number one etc
I for one would be happy without all that crap. Sure I like media coverage of tennis and speculation on forums etc but I don't care for the post match interviews and criticism to the players faces from people who write articles for a living.

Jajaloo
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:38 PM
This is a more appropriate ranking ranking for her. Hopefully it forces her to adopt a more aggressive game, to claw her way back into the top 10.

justineheninfan
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:55 PM
This is the fault of the ranking system. She was never really No. 1 in the first place. It inflated her by allowing her to play a lot and accumulate points and now it's a free fall.

These kind of things never happened under Divisor because it was about averages and you slowly become No. 1 and you slowly drop from No. 1. Nothing sudden like this.

Exactly. More proof of the absolutely ridiculous ranking system.

justineheninfan
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:56 PM
currently? revisionist crap. :lol: "WTA Rankings" never had more than 5-8 worthy players.
Either a few dominates and the rest losing every week or everybody beats everybody and whole turns into a mess.

Did you follow the WTA from 1999-2007? Or from 1989-1993.

SAEKeithSerena
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:58 PM
she's a mess right now. :(

Miracle Worker
Aug 30th, 2012, 02:58 PM
It's only her fault that she leaves TOP10. She had 2 years to improve her game and make her game more effective against players in form. She didn't do this and all she can do these days is pushing.

But still there is one thing which is worse than her lack of any improvements - Piotr and his "Push more. Don't even try to attack. Just push".

Aravanecaravan
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:13 PM
Why is it Rory's fault? He's the closest she'll come to having greatness in her.

:) This line is Pulitzer-worthy.

MaBaker
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:18 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/2aamrzn.jpg

flareon
Aug 30th, 2012, 03:40 PM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y275/austin_ap5/tumblr_lqrlhmKdKs1qaqwxm.gif

:hysteric:

:hug: caroline now whore up MM :p

justineheninfan
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:10 PM
A joke year? Quarters at Sydney, Final at Paris, Semis at Doha, Quarters at Indian Wells and Miami, Semis at Eastbourne and a final at Carlsbad. Thats a pretty good record. She was #9 this time last year and has held her ground.

A few of those are good tournaments, but a few of those are just reaching at decent round at small events where she didnt meet anyone decent. The consensus of most who has watched her play this year is she hasnt been impressive. Just look at her last couple of events, getting spanked by Errani on hard courts, and now getting outhit and having less winners and more errors than some tour journeyman in a U.S Open 2nd round but lucky to escape somehow.

C. Drone
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:51 PM
Did you follow the WTA from 1999-2007? Or from 1989-1993.

Do you understand how rankings work?

Fantasy Hero
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:55 PM
haters having their pants wet :shrug: not surprised at all, but even in the case she is sadly never getting back to top 10, none will take away from her all those weeks at the top and the titles she's won :shrug:
but this is TF so let them hate, quite surprised I didn't see any hate comment on Flavia's injury thread :lol:

John.
Aug 30th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Good news

brickhousesupporter
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Poor Caro. Shows how mental tennis is. She was YE No.1 for two consecutive seasons. She made a major final. She is an excellent player.
And now she is losing in the first round of her best slam.
One wonders how she would be faring if she didn't have to do all those stupid interviews answering questions about whether or not she is good enough to be number one etc
I for one would be happy without all that crap. Sure I like media coverage of tennis and speculation on forums etc but I don't care for the post match interviews and criticism to the players faces from people who write articles for a living.
Would you not agree that every champion has to face this and that it is part of what makes a tennis player a great one. That is what seperates the great tennis players. Pressure is a privilage according to Billy Jean King.

doni1212
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Why is it Rory's fault? He's the closest she'll come to having greatness in her.

:lol:

Ferg
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:07 PM
A few of those are good tournaments, but a few of those are just reaching at decent round at small events where she didnt meet anyone decent. The consensus of most who has watched her play this year is she hasnt been impressive. Just look at her last couple of events, getting spanked by Errani on hard courts, and now getting outhit and having less winners and more errors than some tour journeyman in a U.S Open 2nd round but lucky to escape somehow.

If somebody else has had better results than her this year they would be ranked above her. The simple fact of the matter is that there isnt any real pressure being put on the top 10 by the players ranked below, especially since Petkovic got injured. None of the other players are stringing the results together necessary to dislodge any of the top 10. Who do you think should be top 10 instead?

RenaSlam.
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:11 PM
She always was a peasant.

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m274/bekkiglittz/GIFs/Asian/39dc8d25.gif

justineheninfan
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:32 PM
If somebody else has had better results than her this year they would be ranked above her. The simple fact of the matter is that there isnt any real pressure being put on the top 10 by the players ranked below, especially since Petkovic got injured. None of the other players are stringing the results together necessary to dislodge any of the top 10. Who do you think should be top 10 instead?

In terms of current level of play Kirilenko is easily the best outside the top 9 (and is way better than Errani outside of clay as well). Hopefully by years end she makes it into the top 10. I have been watching Bartoli play more lately than early in the year so maybe I missed alot of her better tennis of the year, but her current level of tennis is definitely not top 10 worthy, but then again as I said she is probably just the best of a really bad bunch vying for the bottom of the top 10 and got there by default.

JN
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:41 PM
I can understand not being a fan of Caro or cheering for every player she plays against, but I cannot understand the glee you haters (and you know who you are) seem to hold in her current slump. What pleasure can you poissibly derive from the misfortune or lack of success that Caro now is experiencing? If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her. All I can say is that if you harbor such hatred in your heart against a human being who cannot possibly have any significance in your personal life you must be a miserable person indeed.

Why so long-winded? Just tell 'em to leave her alone and be done with it. Sheesh!

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr70/RoryMK/chris-crocker-crying20dlnqnt.jpg

Ferg
Aug 30th, 2012, 05:57 PM
In terms of current level of play Kirilenko is easily the best outside the top 9 (and is way better than Errani outside of clay as well). Hopefully by years end she makes it into the top 10. I have been watching Bartoli play more lately than early in the year so maybe I missed alot of her better tennis of the year, but her current level of tennis is definitely not top 10 worthy, but then again as I said she is probably just the best of a really bad bunch vying for the bottom of the top 10 and got there by default.

Well then its not really fair to say she doesnt deserve to be top ten based on her recent results rather than her results in the early part of the year? Shes going through one of her worst slumps of recent years like a lot of players do but that doesnt mean she automatically deserves not to be a top 10 player. If you admit you didnt see her performances that got her the points to be where she is you cant really judge her ranking :shrug: Anyone who thinks the way shes playing now is her normal level of play is crazy. I wouldnt call Radwanska's current level of tennis to be top 3 either but she is where she is because of other results.

LoveMeansZero
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:06 PM
She has been fortunate to have made so much money, gain so much fame with no talent (just by using the computer ranking to her advantage). I am sure that she knows that and will be content to just enjoy her fortune henceforth.
She's among the highest paid female athletes and now it's time for that to stop and for someone else with real talent to enjoy it. I don't hate her, but I think they are opportunists, Piotr and her: that's why I am so happy with this turn of event.
Now, it's going to be very difficult for her move back up, because she won't be seeded in WTA events and will not have the advantage of playing lower ranked players early on. The fall is going to be even quicker.

Fantasy Hero
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:29 PM
She has been fortunate to have made so much money, gain so much fame with no talent (just by using the computer ranking to her advantage). I am sure that she knows that and will be content to just enjoy her fortune henceforth.
She's among the highest paid female athletes and now it's time for that to stop and for someone else with real talent to enjoy it. I don't hate her, but I think they are opportunists, Piotr and her: that's why I am so happy with this turn of event.
Now, it's going to be very difficult for her move back up, because she won't be seeded in WTA events and will not have the advantage of playing lower ranked players early on. The fall is going to be even quicker.

you must be right, she's clearly a not top 100 materials, and building a great carreer with hard work is such a disrespectful thing, i do even think she should be put in jail and her name taken away from books because it's such a horrible fact to show the world that you can be a world top name without any great talent just killing yourself with hard work. Girls and guys who shows to have no talent should indeed drop their dreams because they are a shame for the sport!
she was gifted so many wins by talented professional players just because they were too nice with her, she made nothing to build that and she got a lot of easy draws for so many times that she could even hold the world n°1 for two years, I wonder if she also won the lottery in the meantime.

Ivanovic2008
Aug 30th, 2012, 06:38 PM
I can understand not being a fan of Caro or cheering for every player she plays against, but I cannot understand the glee you haters (and you know who you are) seem to hold in her current slump. What pleasure can you poissibly derive from the misfortune or lack of success that Caro now is experiencing? If she were a vile despicable person I can understand that better but there is no evidence of such obnoxious personality in her. All I can say is that if you harbor such hatred in your heart against a human being who cannot possibly have any significance in your personal life you must be a miserable person indeed.

I agree with you, but this is reality not elementary school. People are going to get hated even if they aren't bad people.

fluffyelloballz
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:06 PM
Would you not agree that every champion has to face this and that it is part of what makes a tennis player a great one. That is what seperates the great tennis players. Pressure is a privilage according to Billy Jean King.

Yes I agree this is true. And I love King's comment, very profound. However, I feel Caro received a lot of unfair flack for achieving number one without a major. It was not her fault. She played within a system devised by the WTA and she came out on top. True, the odd question here and there about her ambitions to win a major were warranted but in my opinion she was almost ridiculed by the media for something as remarkable and unridicule worthy as being world number one.

DOUBLEFIST
Aug 30th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Would have rather seen her change her game then exit the top 10.

brickhousesupporter
Aug 30th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Yes I agree this is true. And I love King's comment, very profound. However, I feel Caro received a lot of unfair flack for achieving number one without a major. It was not her fault. She played within a system devised by the WTA and she came out on top. True, the odd question here and there about her ambitions to win a major were warranted but in my opinion she was almost ridiculed by the media for something as remarkable and unridicule worthy as being world number one.
It is nothing that Jankovic and Safina did not face. I honestly think the WTA is hurting its own product by creating a system that rewards quantity over quality. They create a system that leads to redicule of the number 1 player. You can't blame the reporters for questioning the system that is their job. Blame the WTA for creating a system that leads to questions.

CWTennis
Aug 30th, 2012, 10:31 PM
you must be right, she's clearly a not top 100 materials, and building a great carreer with hard work is such a disrespectful thing, i do even think she should be put in jail and her name taken away from books because it's such a horrible fact to show the world that you can be a world top name without any great talent just killing yourself with hard work. Girls and guys who shows to have no talent should indeed drop their dreams because they are a shame for the sport!
she was gifted so many wins by talented professional players just because they were too nice with her, she made nothing to build that and she got a lot of easy draws for so many times that she could even hold the world n°1 for two years, I wonder if she also won the lottery in the meantime.
:lol:

BillFromRichmond
Aug 31st, 2012, 02:07 AM
A joke year? Quarters at Sydney, Final at Paris, Semis at Doha, Quarters at Indian Wells and Miami, Semis at Eastbourne and a final at Carlsbad. Thats a pretty good record. She was #9 this time last year and has held her ground.

A few of those are good tournaments, but a few of those are just reaching at decent round at small events where she didnt meet anyone decent. The consensus of most who has watched her play this year is she hasnt been impressive. Just look at her last couple of events, getting spanked by Errani on hard courts, and now getting outhit and having less winners and more errors than some tour journeyman in a U.S Open 2nd round but lucky to escape somehow.
You made the statement that she was a "joke" 90% of the time, but now you admit "a few of these" were good tournaments. Well, Sydney, Doha, Indian Wells and Miami were not "jokes".

Yes, she has slumped lately, but the points are over 52 weeks and they reward winning. You don't lose points "for being lucky to escape". A win is a win and she record shows she deserves to be Top Ten.

BillFromRichmond
Aug 31st, 2012, 02:13 AM
In terms of current level of play Kirilenko is easily the best outside the top 9 (and is way better than Errani outside of clay as well). Hopefully by years end she makes it into the top 10. I have been watching Bartoli play more lately than early in the year so maybe I missed alot of her better tennis of the year, but her current level of tennis is definitely not top 10 worthy, but then again as I said she is probably just the best of a really bad bunch vying for the bottom of the top 10 and got there by default.

Well then its not really fair to say she doesnt deserve to be top ten based on her recent results rather than her results in the early part of the year? Shes going through one of her worst slumps of recent years like a lot of players do but that doesnt mean she automatically deserves not to be a top 10 player. If you admit you didnt see her performances that got her the points to be where she is you cant really judge her ranking :shrug: Anyone who thinks the way shes playing now is her normal level of play is crazy. I wouldnt call Radwanska's current level of tennis to be top 3 either but she is where she is because of other results.

JHF, you made a statement when you had no evidence backing it.

But I will agree with you that Kirilenko does have a chance to make Top Ten by end of the year if she continues as she has, but I think you are being grossly unfair to Bartoli.

Eigenvalue
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:40 PM
:bounce:

About time...wonder how she got there in the first place...surely the most unworthy number one (on paper at least) ever...and it's going to go further down for the Slamless-One...:devil:

aselto
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:45 PM
Did you register to bump threads about Wozniacki, eigenfunction? Talk about obsession. :awww:

Viktymise
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:49 PM
Who?

This.

Patrick345
Sep 1st, 2012, 07:50 PM
Yes I agree this is true. And I love King's comment, very profound. However, I feel Caro received a lot of unfair flack for achieving number one without a major.

She didn´t even. JJ/Safina or Clijsters/Mauresmo received twice as much criticism for being a slamless #1, despite having been on top for a much shorter time and achieving much more in Slams. The Wozniacki criticism didn´t start until maybe 35-40 weeks of her being #1. She was a media darling for a very long time.