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Hoergren
Aug 10th, 2012, 04:46 AM
Hopefully she can finish this and get on a show court. This tournament's already a fucked up mess.

Their PLAN is to have her second match on CC butthe weather forecast look even more miserable Friday 70% chance of rain and thunderstorms. Wonder if they have more than a few games played:confused:

http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/Montreal+Canada+CAXX0301

DownInAHole
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:42 AM
It was probably DIAH running on court to brush Caro's hair ;)

I have got myself a rock solid alibi, I'm an entire time zone away!

TennisFan66
Aug 10th, 2012, 07:49 AM
Hopefully she can finish this and get on a show court. This tournament's already a fucked up mess.

Yeah, seems like one right old mess. Maybe they should be excused because of the Olympic tournament, they couldn't start MD matches earlier. *sighs* A mess nevertheless.

JadeFox
Aug 10th, 2012, 08:03 AM
I have got myself a rock solid alibi, I'm an entire time zone away!

Can you really prove that Mister? ;) :p

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 08:25 AM
Court 9 12:00 Noon
Natalie GRANDIN (RSA) Vladimira UHLIROVA (CZE) vs Sabine LISICKI (GER) Shuai PENG (CHN)
Not before 1:30 p.m.
[Q] Kiki BERTENS (NED) vs Caroline WOZNIACKI (DEN) [7]

Center Court 12:00 Noon
Marion BARTOLI (FRA) [9] vs Petra KVITOVA (CZE) [5]
Not before 2:00 p.m.
Christina MCHALE (USA) vs [WC] Aleksandra WOZNIAK (CAN)
Not before 6:00 p.m.
Varvara LEPCHENKO (USA) vs [Q] Kiki BERTENS (NED) or Caroline WOZNIACKI (DEN) [7]

DownInAHole
Aug 10th, 2012, 08:26 AM
Can you really prove that Mister? ;) :p

Sure I can. Google Earth! I'll just give you my street address and climb up onto my roof.;)

DownInAHole
Aug 10th, 2012, 08:30 AM
In 2010 wasn't there talk of moving matches indoors? Actually I believe that some doubles matches were played indoors.
http://www.tennis.fm/tennis-news/tennis-com/2010/08/rogers-cup-washed-out-for-second-straight-day/

There might not be any cameras and the crowds would be very small but if it rains all day I really think that as many matches as possible should be moved indoors and completed. Otherwise there is a very real chance that there will be no final.

poulao
Aug 10th, 2012, 02:21 PM
Weather forecast (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/maps/caqc0363?ref=rlink_weather_satrad)

It does look okay for the first match, but not for the second one. :)

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Caro's match on the scoreboard

Jorn
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:53 PM
*4-0 40-40 Come on Caro!

TennisFan66
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:53 PM
They're in play again ... 3rd GP for 5-0 ... yes! ... 5-0 ...

Trey
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:53 PM
5-0

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:53 PM
Caro holds to 40, 5-0.

DownInAHole
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Bit shaky but she holds to go up 5-0. If she closes this out soon I really do not believe playing two matches today will hurt her at all.

Jimmie48
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:55 PM
Expected, this match was basically done yesterday :)

Trey
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:56 PM
5-1

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Bertens holds to 15, 5-1.

Trey
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:57 PM
3 Mp

TennisFan66
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:59 PM
Expected, this match was basically done yesterday :)

JINX !!!!

I un-jinx, as Caro has not converted the first 2 MP.

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 05:59 PM
"40-0 is meaningless for Wozniacki"

Protoss
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:00 PM
Caro fails to get a 1st serve in on all 3 of her match points. :rolleyes: Hold Caro.

Martn7
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:00 PM
4th MP

poulao
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:00 PM
Yesssss :cheer:

Jimmie48
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:00 PM
JINX !!!!



It's called faith :p

NID :)

Martn7
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:00 PM
Caro won! :bounce:

Good luck later versus Lepchenko!

DownInAHole
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:01 PM
I'm doing my best to make C.W. Fields proud with this inane observation. If you look at the scoreboard Caroline has DEN next to her name while Kiki has the same thing in reverse (NED) next to her name. That has to mean something, right?

Trey
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:01 PM
She won 6-1 in the second

TennisFan66
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:02 PM
"40-0 is meaningless for Wozniacki"

Phew ... she converted on the 4th MP ... 7-5, 6-1

Who was it actually with the '40-15 is meaningless against Wozniacki' .. one of the ES ladies?

Trey
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:02 PM
I think she should take the little time she haves too go practice before her second match

Protoss
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Yay!!!!!!!!!! Caro holds for 6-1 2nd set at Ad Caro from 40-0 to 40-40 (2nd serves on match points). :) Good job Caro. :) The match was 1 hour 22 minutes long (about 10 minutes today).

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:03 PM
Caro closes it out on 4th MP 7-5, 6-1 in 1h22m. 1st serves in 59%. 1st serves win 76%. 2nd serves win 42%. 1 ace/4 DFs. Broken twice, breaking 5 times herself (she broke in all the games in which she had BPs).

Trey
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:07 PM
Wat Caro H2H with Lepchenko R is this their first meeting as while

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:11 PM
Wat Caro H2H with Lepchenko R is this their first meeting as while

http://www.wtatennis.com/headtohead/varvara-lepchenko_2255881_4939/0,,12781~4939~12631,00.html

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:15 PM
I'm doing my best to make C.W. Fields proud with this inane observation. If you look at the scoreboard Caroline has DEN next to her name while Kiki has the same thing in reverse (NED) next to her name. That has to mean something, right?

Yes, it means you can expect the number of points Caro wins to be a reverse number of how many points Kiki wins (64 - 46).

DownInAHole
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Yes, it means you can expect the number of points Caro wins to be a reverse number of how many points Kiki wins (64 - 46).

As always you have just blown my mind. Blown it wide open.:unsure:

C. W. Fields
Aug 10th, 2012, 06:26 PM
As always you have just blown my mind. Blown it wide open.:unsure:

It's what I do! :angel:

Chrissie-fan
Aug 10th, 2012, 08:11 PM
What were her winners - UE stats?

poulao
Aug 10th, 2012, 09:35 PM
It doesn't look good at all. I don't think there will be more tennis to day. :( :fiery:

poulao
Aug 10th, 2012, 10:24 PM
According twitter (http://twitter.com/couperogers) play will resume at 6:45, which is in half an hour or so. :)

CloudAtlas
Aug 10th, 2012, 10:26 PM
Uh oh according to someone on twitter, Caroline has been coughing all day :unsure:

Protoss
Aug 10th, 2012, 10:58 PM
Uh oh according to someone on twitter, Caroline has been coughing all day :unsure:
Sigh. Please just withdraw Caro. There's no need to give another opponent a win.

Why does Caro's body keep breaking down this year? :(

Achernar
Aug 10th, 2012, 10:59 PM
I'm doing my best to make C.W. Fields proud with this inane observation. If you look at the scoreboard Caroline has DEN next to her name while Kiki has the same thing in reverse (NED) next to her name. That has to mean something, right?

Yes, it means you can expect the number of points Caro wins to be a reverse number of how many points Kiki wins (64 - 46).

As always you have just blown my mind. Blown it wide open.:unsure:

It's what I do! :angel:

:haha: :rolls:

Touché :lol:

Achernar
Aug 10th, 2012, 11:04 PM
It doesn't look good at all. I don't think there will be more tennis to day. :( :fiery:

Uh oh according to someone on twitter, Caroline has been coughing all day :unsure:

Sigh. Please just withdraw Caro. There's no need to give another opponent a win.

Why does Caro's body keep breaking down this year? :(

A simple cough doesn't necessarily imply something serious. I don't want her to withdraw, she has some serious chances to reach the semifinals. And she needs those points.

I don't even know if she'll be able to play tonight. It's raining a lot around here. However, Voskoboeva is playing her double match. Indoor or outdoor??

Jimmie48
Aug 10th, 2012, 11:06 PM
Sigh. Please just withdraw Caro. There's no need to give another opponent a win.

Why does Caro's body keep breaking down this year? :(

Erm, I think that's a bit of an overreaction ;)...somebody said she's coughing, big deal. We heard often times that she has a cold etc. and it never affected her much.

This draw is the most favorable thing that has come her way for a long time... she has to take advantage of this.

Achernar
Aug 10th, 2012, 11:08 PM
A simple cough doesn't necessarily imply something serious. I don't want her to withdraw, she has some serious chances to reach the semifinals. And she needs those points.


[QUOTE=Jimmie48;22008174]Erm, I think that's a bit of an overreaction ;)...somebody said she's coughing, big deal. We heard often times that she has a cold etc. and it never affected her much.

This draw is the most favorable thing that has come her way for a long time... she has to take advantage of this.

Stop cloning my posts :lol:

TennisFan66
Aug 10th, 2012, 11:12 PM
New OOP .. Caroline still on for today ... if they get to play. McHale - Wozniak now postponed to start no earlier than 7:45PM ..

Novichok
Aug 10th, 2012, 11:41 PM
Erm, I think that's a bit of an overreaction ;)...somebody said she's coughing, big deal. We heard often times that she has a cold etc. and it never affected her much.

This draw is the most favorable thing that has come her way for a long time... she has to take advantage of this.

Exactly. She needs wins and she needs confidence. This is the perfect opportunity for that.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:30 AM
Looks like play will resume soooon :)

Achernar
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:35 AM
Looks like play will resume soooon :)

They're drying the court. But it's still raining in Montreal. Hopefully the tournament in outside the zone of rain.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:54 AM
Appareantly it's raining again, I don't think we'll see tennis today.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:56 AM
Appareantly it's raining again, I don't think we'll see tennis today.
What time do they make that call?

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:58 AM
No idea but given that it's already 9PM there it would need to stop within the next 90 minutes I think, they won't start matches much later than 11PM I guess.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 02:17 AM
Apparently play was cancelled for today...past 10PM and still raining.

Tomorrow's schedule will be a mess.

Trey
Aug 11th, 2012, 02:42 AM
Have they Confirm they will play Tomorrow yet and today was cancelled

Jens K A
Aug 11th, 2012, 02:48 AM
http://www.rogerscup.com/women/pdf/draws/2012_OP17.pdf says:

Saturday, 11 August 2012

Not Before 2:00 PM
Varvara LEPCHENKO (USA)
vs
Caroline WOZNIACKI (DEN) [7]

Not Before 8:00 PM
Christina MCHALE (USA) or
[WC] Aleksandra WOZNIAK (CAN)
vs
Varvara LEPCHENKO (USA) or
Caroline WOZNIACKI (DEN) [7]

Add 6 hours for CEST (Central European Summer Time)

marineblue
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:51 AM
So she'll play twice today? A long day ahead of her then.

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:52 AM
It is ridiculous that they did not move the singles matches indoors. I guess it all comes down to money but if the rain keeps up there is a real chance the tournament will not finish. That would be much more embarrassing than moving some matches indoors and (hopefully) having the final in centre court.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:06 AM
If the early matches go as expected, Caro will be at a significant disadvantage in her second match: she has to play a full match against Lepchenko while Wozniak needs just one more game to close out McHale. Caro pretty much owns her 'sibling' (7-1 H2H and the loss was a retirement) but with a physical disadvantage (she may have a cold, too) and Aleks with the crowd behind her, it could get really tough. Let's just hope Caro closes out Lepchenko fast.

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:26 AM
If the early matches go as expected, Caro will be at a significant disadvantage in her second match: she has to play a full match against Lepchenko while Wozniak needs just one more game to close out McHale. Caro pretty much owns her 'sibling' (7-1 H2H and the loss was a retirement) but with a physical disadvantage (she may have a cold, too) and Aleks with the crowd behind her, it could get really tough. Let's just hope Caro closes out Lepchenko fast.

Well that's the way the cookie crumbles. These things happen to players especially when the weather plays a part. And I don't like these sorts of excuses. Normally she's so fit she shouldn't have a problem with two matches in a day although it's true we don't know about that cough/cold she had yesterday. Cmon Caro - you can do this.

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:45 AM
It is ridiculous that they did not move the singles matches indoors. I guess it all comes down to money but if the rain keeps up there is a real chance the tournament will not finish. That would be much more embarrassing than moving some matches indoors and (hopefully) having the final in centre court.

It really is the last resort and I can understand that. Moving away to the indoor court with no specatators is the last resort they want to be forced into. And they were never going to do that yet for the singles matches before the weekend and before the situation could not be recovered otherwise.

The bottom line is that the situation at the moment is under control with players having to play two matches a day. If need be - they will go to Monday with two matches on that day. Only if they still are not going to be able to complete the tournament would they use that indoor court. In a worst case situation of rain decimating more matches this weekend - the deadline they must meet is that all QF matches must be played by the end of Sunday. Then it can still be managed. Players playing two matches - the SF and F on Monday. If it is raining all day Monday as well in an already worst case situation - they'd have to move out with no specatators to the indoor court. And they'd still have a winner and complete the tournament.

We had all these posts two years ago about it being ridiculous why they didn't move singles matches there. But they managed the situation fine then.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 09:19 AM
If the early matches go as expected, Caro will be at a significant disadvantage in her second match: she has to play a full match against Lepchenko while Wozniak needs just one more game to close out McHale. Caro pretty much owns her 'sibling' (7-1 H2H and the loss was a retirement) but with a physical disadvantage (she may have a cold, too) and Aleks with the crowd behind her, it could get really tough. Let's just hope Caro closes out Lepchenko fast.

Most important of course Caroline wins against Lepchenko, but one could also hope, McHale somehow made her match competitive ...

How's the weather looking today for Montreal?

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 09:25 AM
It really is the last resort and I can understand that. Moving away to the indoor court with no specatators is the last resort they want to be forced into. And they were never going to do that yet for the singles matches before the weekend and before the situation could not be recovered otherwise.

The bottom line is that the situation at the moment is under control with players having to play two matches a day. If need be - they will go to Monday with two matches on that day. Only if they still are not going to be able to complete the tournament would they use that indoor court. In a worst case situation of rain decimating more matches this weekend - the deadline they must meet is that all QF matches must be played by the end of Sunday. Then it can still be managed. Players playing two matches - the SF and F on Monday. If it is raining all day Monday as well in an already worst case situation - they'd have to move out with no specatators to the indoor court. And they'd still have a winner and complete the tournament.

We had all these posts two years ago about it being ridiculous why they didn't move singles matches there. But they managed the situation fine then.

I respectfully disagree, especially when you consider the weather forecast. I don't necessarily think that all of the matches should have been moved indoors but in the interest of fairness I think it would have made a good deal of sense to move certain matches indoors to get the schedule back on track and also to limit the instances of players competing twice in a single day. If play is rained out again today that will really mess things up but had they gotten some matches finished indoors yesterday that would have given the organisers more wiggle room. In Toronto there is a similar situation and several doubles matches were played and completed indoors. Why not apply the same logic to singles? Sure, the crowds will be much smaller and there will probably be no television coverage but it is likely better for the players and if matches are completed indoors now that increases the chances that the semis and finals can be played outdoors. I really think that the decision should be up to the players. Maybe they do not want to play to much smaller crowds indoors and if that is the case then I can respect that but I do think they should at the very least be given the option.

We will have to wait and see how things turn out but I'm worried that it will get quite messy.

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 09:30 AM
I respectfully disagree, especially when you consider the weather forecast. I don't necessarily think that all of the matches should have been moved indoors but in the interest of fairness I think it would have made a good deal of sense to move certain matches indoors to get the schedule back on track and also to limit the instances of players competing twice in a single day. If play is rained out again today that will really mess things up but had they gotten some matches finished indoors yesterday that would have given the organisers more wiggle room. In Toronto there is a similar situation and several doubles matches were played and completed indoors. Why not apply the same logic to singles? Sure, the crowds will be much smaller and there will probably be no television coverage but it is likely better for the players and if matches are completed indoors now that increases the chances that the semis and finals can be played outdoors. I really think that the decision should be up to the players. Maybe they do not want to play to much smaller crowds indoors and if that is the case then I can respect that but I do think they should at the very least be given the option.

We will have to wait and see how things turn out but I'm worried that it will get quite messy.

Well - it's never going to happen that the organisers even consider moving singles matches out before the weekend and before it becomes neccessary. I agree with the organisers. You don't. As I say - the abslolute bottom lime requirement in a worst case scenario is that they must complete QF single by end of Sunday. To guarantee that (and you haven't answered that) they do not need to panic and move singles out before the weekend.

Did you think the organisers were wrong two years ago when everyione was wailing at them?

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 09:34 AM
How's the weather looking today for Montreal?

60% chance of rain today, 70% for tomorrow morning. I'm not sure about tomorrow afternoon and evening.

There may be a window for some play today but it seems unlikely that it will be dry all day/evening.

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 09:46 AM
Well - it's never going to happen that the organisers even consider moving singles matches out before the weekend and before it becomes neccessary. I agree with the organisers. You don't. As I say - the abslolute bottom lime requirement in a worst case scenario is that they must complete QF single by end of Sunday. To guarantee that (and you haven't answered that) they do not need to panic and move singles out before the weekend.

Did you think the organisers were wrong two years ago when everyione was wailing at them?

Possibly. If I had been in charge I would have explained the situation and the options to the players and asked them what they wanted to do. I just don't believe that money should be the sole deciding factor. I think it makes much more sense to get some matches completed indoors rather than risk having no matches completed.

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 10:27 AM
Possibly. If I had been in charge I would have explained the situation and the options to the players and asked them what they wanted to do. I just don't believe that money should be the sole deciding factor. I think it makes much more sense to get some matches completed indoors rather than risk having no matches completed.

It isn't just money. For example, people have paid to see players play. If they can play in the rain breaks - the people who paid still get to see them. Whisking them off elsewhere to an indoor court deprives people who paid of seeing them. I'm sure it's the principle of whisking players off elsewhere from the where the tournament should be played that all organisers would be reluctant to do.

Sure they do it in doubles. But that's really saying doubles isn't so important that they'll give way and whisk those players away to the indoor court.

If this tournament doesn't get completed and we don't have a winner - I will be the first to admit that you were right and the organisers got it wrong. But when was the last time any tournament failed to complete and give us a winner.

I'm convinced all organizers would have made the same decisions. An that they get us a winner eventually - I don't think they do badly in this regard in difficult circumstances. But yes - there should be an review as to whether anything could be done better.

Martn7
Aug 11th, 2012, 11:24 AM
According to livescorehunter we don't have to worry about Lepchenko because Caro will play versus Wozniak today in QF :lol:

http://lsh.lshunter.tv/tennis-live-streaming-video.html

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 11:33 AM
According to livescorehunter we don't have to worry about Lepchenko because Caro will play versus Wozniak today in QF :lol:

http://lsh.lshunter.tv/tennis-live-streaming-video.html

Yes, that's a good one :lol:

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 11:50 AM
Well that's the way the cookie crumbles. These things happen to players especially when the weather plays a part. And I don't like these sorts of excuses. Normally she's so fit she shouldn't have a problem with two matches in a day although it's true we don't know about that cough/cold she had yesterday. Cmon Caro - you can do this.

I agree. Plus, she has been more than fortunate with the draw this week so she can't really complain.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:39 PM
The weather forecast (http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/maps/caqc0363?ref=rlink_weather_satrad) for today is okay. ;)

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 12:42 PM
According to livescorehunter we don't have to worry about Lepchenko because Caro will play versus Wozniak today in QF :lol:

http://lsh.lshunter.tv/tennis-live-streaming-video.html

:lol:

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 02:37 PM
Most important of course Caroline wins against Lepchenko, but one could also hope, McHale somehow made her match competitive ...


But if McHale manages to take it to 3 sets, then the Lepchenko match will start later: longer wait for us and shorter rest for Caro (presumably) between her two matches.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 02:40 PM
But if McHale manages to take it to 3 sets, then the Lepchenko match will start later: longer wait for us and shorter rest for Caro (presumably) between her two matches.
McHale is down a set and a double break. It's highly unlikely that she'll be able to come back to force a 3rd set. :shrug:

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 03:19 PM
McHale is down a set and a double break. It's highly unlikely that she'll be able to come back to force a 3rd set. :shrug:

Well, it is certainly possible. We have often seen that when matches are interrupted momentum can shift to the player that was losing before the delay.

Achernar
Aug 11th, 2012, 03:35 PM
As for now, it's not raining in Montreal. Actually, the weather has been perfect for the whole morning in order to play tennis. They should have start the matches at 9 or 10 A.M. Instead, they preferred waiting in the afternoon, when we are expecting scattered thunderstorms :rolleyes:. Nevertheless, I feel it will be possible to play for long periods of time today, between showers.

Jorn
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Good Luck Caro! :)

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:20 PM
Players on court. Temperature 29C.

Edit: They say Caro is 21 yo!?

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:21 PM
Yellow is so her color :)

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:22 PM
Come on, sweet heart in yellow ;)

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:25 PM
*Thomas Johanson wasn't there for the Olympics* .... Correct me, but wasn't he in the box with Piotr, Anna, Frederik Nielsen ?

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:26 PM
*Thomas Johanson wasn't there for the Olympics* .... Correct me, but wasn't he in the box with Piotr, Anna, Frederik Nielsen ?

He was.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:29 PM
He was.

Thought so ... It was a comment from the muppets on British ES ... Probably the worst commentators in the world ;)

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:37 PM
2-1

Hold to love :)

Jorn
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:37 PM
Caro 2-1*

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Hm, this could be a quite lengthy match. Not what she needs today.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:45 PM
2-2

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:45 PM
Lepchenko holds to level at 2 all ... but that was a tad of a missed opportunity from Caro. There were definitely chances.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:45 PM
2-2. When Lepchenko doesn't DF, she lands some good serves.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:47 PM
She seems quite erratic..some good shots but lots of errors too. That's usually not the kind of tennis to win against Caro.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:48 PM
3-2

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:49 PM
I assume you guys have noticed that Caroline is definitely doing some coughing today.

She seems kind of annoyed/irritated so far. A break in this next game might help her mood.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:50 PM
Hm, this could be a quite lengthy match. Not what she needs today.

Yeah, it would be nice with an easy straight sets win for Caro .... but so far it's on serve with no break points ... Could be a long day for Caro, if she even gets the 2nd match.

Such a huge advantage for Wozniak. Imagine say .. the organizers in Copenhagen had treated Wozniak the same way, Montreal is treating Caro / Lepchenko ... There would be no less than 10 threads in GM, with a minimum of 20 pages each, all demanding the tournament was cancelled ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:53 PM
3-3

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:55 PM
3-3. It may be a fairly close match but not overly long. Lepchenko doesn't play long points.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:57 PM
le sigh...broken.

3-4

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:58 PM
Well, I suppose, if Caroline loses to Lepchenko, we don't have to 'worry' about her being too tired for the match against Wozniak ... 2 BP for Lepchenko ... *sighs* .. and FH error.

Lepchenko leads 4-3, so now Caro probably needs to win the match in 3 .. being totally knackered for the next match, if she should even win this one .. It's a tad pointless, isn't it :(

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:58 PM
Broken, 3-4. Good game by VL.
Caro needs more angles on her game, VL is good inside the side lines, atm.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 06:59 PM
She has to win this..not taking advantage of this draw would be a crime.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:00 PM
She has to win this..not taking advantage of this draw would be a crime.
Such things have been pretty much irrelevant for the past year or so. :shrug:

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Lepchenko holds to love... not good.

3-5

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:01 PM
She has to win this..not taking advantage of this draw would be a crime.

Instead she's going home ... We can hope she's 'ill' coz else it would be embarrassing ...

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:01 PM
Love hold, 3-5. VL on top, atm.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:04 PM
4-5

Phew... but still one chance for Lepchenko to serve it out.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:05 PM
4-5, VL serving for the set.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:05 PM
Before the match, Caroline was the clear fave - at 1.3 ... Knowing that this year she either struggles to win or loses matches, I am kicking myself for not having bet against her :( ..

4-5 ... Lepchenko will serve for 1st set.

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:06 PM
Fight Caro.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:06 PM
Piotr was there, maybe it helped.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:07 PM
So tired of useless returner Caro. :(

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:08 PM
Facing set points..

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:08 PM
Well, I put money on Lepchenko at 2.0 ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:09 PM
ugh...three sets it is then, just what she needed today..

Chrissie-fan
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:09 PM
:rolleyes:

marineblue
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:10 PM
Not a great start. Hopefully she'll start to play better in the second set.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:10 PM
ugh...three sets it is then, just what she needed today..

She has been coughing a couple of times and her shots clearly lacks 'power'. Probably she has a cold or flu or something similar .. .either way, she is going home today, imho ...

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:10 PM
Not good. Lepchenko isn't playing great but Caroline just can't break her. This is why she needs to hold serve much better.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:11 PM
She has been coughing a couple of times and her shots clearly lacks 'power'. Probably she has a cold or flu or something similar .. .either way, she is going home today, imho ...

Well, going home today could mean at least another win...not much but in dire times you take what you can.

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:11 PM
Jeez Caro - fight. She's being outplayed and is going to lose. :(

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:12 PM
4-6. VL has been very effective from the baseline. It's not over yet - Caro won two 3-setters at OG - but she needs more edge on her game, her baseline shots are too slow and easy to handle.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Sigh. Lepchenko holds for 6-4 1st set at 40-15 on a 2nd serve. :( Win it in 3 Caro. The match is 42 minutes long.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:14 PM
Those errors....oh dear.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:14 PM
1-0

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:15 PM
Isn't it strange that Caroline seems to be having trouble with the lefty serve of Lepchenko? I can't remember the last lefty that Caroline played but I don't remember her not being able to handle the serve.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:16 PM
Not good. Lepchenko isn't playing great but Caroline just can't break her. This is why she needs to hold serve much better.
Being broken once in a set on a slow hard court is normally acceptable. :shrug:

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:16 PM
1-0. There has been a number of shots where Caro had trouble getting out of the way of the ball. I don't know if it's the lefty spin she has trouble with or her footing is off.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:16 PM
Well, going home today could mean at least another win...not much but in dire times you take what you can.

You are certainly right that Caro could very much use the points from just winning one match today. It's just not looking likely *sighs*

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:16 PM
Robert has ousted Angie :lol:. So, that's the way the cookie crumbles :lol:

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:17 PM
She has been coughing a couple of times and her shots clearly lacks 'power'. Probably she has a cold or flu or something similar .. .either way, she is going home today, imho ...
This sort of crap is why I wanted her to give a walkover. Sigh.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:17 PM
VL goes for the angles, Caro doesn't.

goldenlox
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Now, even if Caro comes back its a long grueling match. And she's supposed to play again today.
So there's almost no positive conclusion to this.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:18 PM
So how many winners and unforced errors for both players? Thanks. :)

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:18 PM
Lepchenko starting to make a lot more errors. Still, like so often in the last 12 months one has to feel that the match is once again not on Caro's racket.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:18 PM
Isn't it strange that Caroline seems to be having trouble with the lefty serve of Lepchenko? I can't remember the last lefty that Caroline played but I don't remember her not being able to handle the serve.

You ... got ... to ... be ... kidding

Caroline ALWAYS has problems with lefty players ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:19 PM
Oh dear.....

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:20 PM
1-1

She has to hold no matter what, a single break can cost her the match.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:20 PM
Caroline just called for the trainer ...

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:21 PM
1-1. I think Caro called for the trainer after next game, maybe to get some pills.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:23 PM
facing BP after DF..

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:23 PM
You ... got ... to ... be ... kidding

Caroline ALWAYS has problems with lefty players ...

Do you remember the last time she played a left handed player? Has it been a while?

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:25 PM
2-1

That hold was hard work, well done.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:25 PM
Caro survives BP, 2-1.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:26 PM
1-1. I think Caro called for the trainer after next game, maybe to get some pills.

She doesn't look to have an injury, so probably just got the flu or a cold ... hopefully she'll be ok for Cincy ...

*sh1t* ... nope that's a real injury :( ... It's just all pointless these days.

Novichok
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Phew. :sobbing:

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:26 PM
Nope, nothing flu-related it seems. Right leg..

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:27 PM
Well she managed to hold. Should have broken in game before - but the errors and that missed smash. Piotr looks as if he has his head in his hands.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:27 PM
Uhuhu.., she has back problems again :(

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:27 PM
Looks like right knee...she went way down during that one return.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:28 PM
Uhuhu.., she has back problems again :(
Sigh. Please just give a retirement Caro.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:28 PM
Caro getting a massage. If she's hurting now, I don't see her winning 4 more sets today.

goldenlox
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:28 PM
Retire now!

Ataraxis00
MTO for Caro. She's laying down on the court.

Trih
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:28 PM
I wasn't following the entire match, what's up with Caroline's knee? :[

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:29 PM
What's the point in continuing? .. even if by some miracle, she'll manage to fluke win this match, she'll have to play a new fresh player in a few hours ... #pointless

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:29 PM
Okay, if it's the knee, then we can just hope it's nothing serious. :)

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:29 PM
This could have been her chance to get a P5 SF again, I just can't get over it.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:30 PM
What's the point in continuing? .. even if by some miracle, she'll manage to fluke win this match, she'll have to play a new fresh player in a few hours ... #pointless

Giving up aren't words that are in Caro's dictionary ;)

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:31 PM
Giving up aren't words that are in Caro's dictionary ;)
Even she later admitted that she should have retired during the match against Aga in Sydney this year.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:32 PM
Giving up aren't words that are in Caro's dictionary ;)

Be that as it may, for now, I'm keeping my bet on Lepchenko ;)

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:33 PM
She's not moving good at all.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:34 PM
I wish we'd see some more ROS DTL.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:34 PM
This is stupid, Caroline can barely run ... RETIRE!!

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:34 PM
Even she later admitted that she should have retired during the match against Aga in Sydney this year.

Yes, but she, to My best knowledge, never does.

AlanP
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:35 PM
Where can you watch this match?

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:35 PM
She's not moving good at all.
This is one time I'd like her to be like Vika and retire. :sad:

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Yes, but she, to My best knowledge, never does.

Maybe she does once she's in the lead? She did that in Luxembourg a few years ago, to give her opponent the chance to play the next match instead of giving the next opponent a walkover.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:37 PM
2-2. Caro still hasn't managed to procure a BP but at least she got to deuce this game.
Caro negative body language.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:37 PM
She looks very much down on her spirits right now.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:38 PM
Yes, but she, to My best knowledge, never does.
She last retired in Rome against AMG. Before that she previously retired shortly after winning the 1st against Arvidsson in Bastad in 2011. She retired twice in 2010, against Zheng in Warsaw and against Zvonareva in Charleston. She's had other retirements before then as well.

goldenlox
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:38 PM
This could have been her chance to get a P5 SF again, I just can't get over it.
She made a Miami SF this year, but the inconsistency looks permanent

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:39 PM
Df #3

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:39 PM
Risky 2nd, pays off... 3-2

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:39 PM
Maybe she does once she's in the lead? She did that in Luxembourg a few years ago, to give her opponent the chance to play the next match instead of giving the next opponent a walkover.

I mean, Caro even played the match out against BFF Sorana at the French. :)

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:40 PM
Maybe she does once she's in the lead? She did that in Luxembourg a few years ago, to give her opponent the chance to play the next match instead of giving the next opponent a walkover.

That was a completely different situation. In Luxembourg, Caroline was playing a local player.. #700-800 in the ranking and Caro knew she wouldn't be able to play the next match, so instead of just giving a walk-over to someone, she retired to allow the Luxembourg player to move on .. and it was just an International, so the money and ranking points lost were limited.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:41 PM
3-2. I really hope Caro manages a break soon or I fear a repeat of set 1.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:41 PM
Piotr there again.

goldenlox
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:44 PM
There's no happy ending to this Wozniak played 1 game today. Caroline will need hours to rehab after this. Thats if she wins, which is far from reality now

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:46 PM
In 6 of out of Caro's last 7 matches (counting today so far), her opponent has won 50% or more of points on their 2nd serve. :rolleyes:

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:47 PM
She still hasn't even got a BP in this match.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:47 PM
3-3. VL's serve gets her more easy points than Caro. Serving with new balls now.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:51 PM
4-3

Good hold :)

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:52 PM
4-3. A bit more promising than set 1.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:52 PM
4-2 and I think Caro is playing positively :)

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:52 PM
Nice winner to get to 30-15 and also to win this game 4-3. Now please God up there - let Caro get a beak

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:53 PM
The last lefty Caro played before today was Pervak in the 1st round of Madrid.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:55 PM
30-30

For some weird reason Lepchenko's level is dropping a lot now.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:56 PM
There it is, she has to take this chance!

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:56 PM
First Bp!

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:57 PM
This is the very first BP for Caro .. but considering she usually needs 10-15 to convert one, I am not optimistic :)

LOL ... but a complete shank by Lepchenko obviously helps.

Caroline serving for 2nd set.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:57 PM
5-3

See...and you guys wanted her to retire :p

Novichok
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:57 PM
She breaks. :lol:

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:57 PM
The last lefty Caro played before today was Pervak in the 1st round of Madrid.

Thanks. Other than Kvitova I'm not really familiar with who the left handed players on the tour are.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:58 PM
5-3! Caro serving for the set.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:58 PM
Lepchenko seems to be derailed now, errors left and right.

terjw
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:59 PM
She actually breaks. Really proud of the way Caro played to get BP and go 40-30. She used to play like that all the time. Fought really hard and well. But don't see that so much nowadays.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:59 PM
There's the set! :)

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:59 PM
Thanks. Other than Kvitova I'm not really familiar with who the left handed players on the tour are.

Safarova for one.

marineblue
Aug 11th, 2012, 07:59 PM
Well done, Caro.:bounce: Now win the third one,too.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Varvara is shocked, she can't believe it :lol:

Well done Caro ;)

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:00 PM
A 3rd it is ... but just a word of caution. How many times this year haven't we already seen Caroline fighting hard in a 2nd set to get a 3rd set, only to then fade away in the 3rd? ...

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Thanks. Other than Kvitova I'm not really familiar with who the left handed players on the tour are.

Safarova ....

Caroline lost to her in ... Doha / Dubai .. one of those, after having wasted MP.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:01 PM
4-6, 6-3. VL's drop in level may be a sign of beginning fatigue. They've passed the 1½ hrs mark and Caro always make her opponents run a good deal.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:02 PM
A 3rd it is ... but just a word of caution. How many times this year haven't we already seen Caroline fighting hard in a 2nd set to get a 3rd set, only to then fade away in the 3rd? ...

Well, she has been much better with that lately.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:02 PM
Amazing that we don't have a Polish fan that can translate for us :)

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:02 PM
Caro holds for 6-3 2nd set at love. :) Stay focused Caro. The match is 1 hour 33 minutes long.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:03 PM
A 3rd it is ... but just a word of caution. How many times this year haven't we already seen Caroline fighting hard in a 2nd set to get a 3rd set, only to then fade away in the 3rd? ...

Not at OG! ;)

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:04 PM
Well, she has not been much better with that lately.

:lol: didn't you forget a 'not' in that sentence?

Anyhoo, come on, Karolina ... at least just win a match today ...

Dear God ... 2nd set stats : 5 W / 12 UE for Caro ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:04 PM
Piotr keeps on going and going :lol:

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:06 PM
Where is Lepchenko?

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Safarova ....

Caroline lost to her in ... Doha / Dubai .. one of those, after having wasted MP.
It was Doha.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:08 PM
Caro has been serving first in set 1 & 2, now it's VL. Will it make a difference?

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:08 PM
Uhoh, Lepchenko's serve is back..

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:10 PM
0-1

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:11 PM
0-1. 3 serves unreturned.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:12 PM
Sets 1 and 2 decided with just one service break ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:15 PM
1-1

But quite lengthy rallies now, she'll lose a lot of energy in this.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:16 PM
1-1. Good game from Caro. She hit some good shoots and she got VL running a lot.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:18 PM
1-2

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:19 PM
1-2. Two serves unreturned.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:20 PM
Thanks. Other than Kvitova I'm not really familiar with who the left handed players on the tour are.

Kerber.

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Kerber.

Ah, despite the loss to Safarove this year Kerber is the first one that I recall Caroline really having trouble with.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:23 PM
Facing BP...critical.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:23 PM
2 good shots from VL followed by 2 bad ones, 30-30.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:24 PM
BP to Lepchenko ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:24 PM
Deuce :)

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Phew....that was shaky.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:26 PM
2-2

Rallies getting really long now.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:27 PM
1-1, 2-2, 70-69 and VL throws her racket!

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Tough hold. Give her credit for hanging with Lepchenko and fighting.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:27 PM
I feel that Caro in on the verge to go negative and then she goes for it again, this is good stuff.:)

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Lepchenko visibly annoyed now :)

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:28 PM
5 points in a row.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Yeah, she holds ... but ... in the bigger picture, she's playing someone ranked ~ #40 ... Caroline use to eat those type of players for break fast... but here we are, praying Caroline might win ... *sighs* ... we have fallen so hard and deep ...

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Whew. Caro holds for 2-2 3rd set at Ad Caro from 0-30 to 15-30 to 30-30 (2nd serve) to 30-40 to 40-40 (2nd serve there). :) Break Caro.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:29 PM
2 hrs passed

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:30 PM
BP..big chance now!

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:30 PM
BP com on

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:30 PM
DF gives Caroline her only 2nd BP of the match ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:31 PM
Yeah, she holds ... but ... in the bigger picture, she's playing someone ranked ~ #40 ... Caroline use to eat those type of players for break fast... but here we are, praying Caroline might win ... *sighs* ... we have fallen so hard and deep ...

Well, that's how it is these days, the other Caro is long gone and may never be back.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:31 PM
That's more like the Caroline, we know ... unable to convert BPS. Deuce again.

Protoss
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:32 PM
Geez. 2 break points gone. :( Break Caro.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:32 PM
Caro read that serve but she still didn't dare to go DTL. She went CC and VL finished easily.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:33 PM
2-3

I still like Caro's chances, Lepchenko is weirdly on the edge in terms of nerves. She gives her opponents lots to work with with all these gestures and stuff.

poulao
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:33 PM
Next Caro, next... :lol:

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:34 PM
2-3. VL was vulnerable this game but Caro lost both BPs on bad ROS.

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Feel free to mock me and call me negative, but I still don't think Caroline will win this match ..

TennisFan66
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:37 PM
2-3

I still like Caro's chances, Lepchenko is weirdly on the edge in terms of nerves. She gives her opponents lots to work with with all these gestures and stuff.

You are right, but one the other hand, Lepchenko just needs to hit two good balls in Caroline's service game and serve just average .. and she's won the match *sighs*

That miss though by Lepchenko was almost comical ... and follow up by another comical error ...

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:37 PM
Feel free to mock me and call me negative, but I still don't think Caroline will win this match ..

Come on, look at Lepchenko...she's a mess in key moments. I`ve rarely seen a player that allows her opponent read her emotional state this openly..Caro's gonna have her for breakfast in a pressure moment.

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Caro does worringly little on short ROSs.

DownInAHole
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Feel free to mock me and call me negative, but I still don't think Caroline will win this match ..

No mockery but it is a teeny bit sad that you are making me look like an optimist. You were once so positive and upbeat. The last year must have been very rough on you.

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:39 PM
Lepchenko is making the most random errors :lol:

C. W. Fields
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:39 PM
2 aces in a row!

Jimmie48
Aug 11th, 2012, 08:41 PM
Caro burning through her challenges now..