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Curcubeu
Jun 9th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Birmingham 220k
Eastboune Premier
Wimbledon

Curcubeu
Jun 9th, 2012, 10:17 AM
WTA Birmingham, Main Draw:

MCHALE (7) - BYE
VESNINA - ROGOWSKA
JOVANOVSKI - QUALIFIER
GAJDOSOVA - CIRSTEA (10)

I'm pretty optimistic for her grass season this year. Her serve seems to be much improved in contrast to the past seasons, good luck!

grs
Jun 9th, 2012, 10:33 AM
GAJDOSOVA - CIRSTEA (10) - the girl will be keeping around 20% of balls in court will win :)

Curcubeu
Jun 10th, 2012, 07:18 PM
Gajdosova withdrew

Sorana against (Q)Melanie Oudin now, H2H is completely in Mel's favour, but please don't lose to her for the sake of GM...

postalblowfish
Jun 10th, 2012, 10:54 PM
I think she'll get as far as McHale.

Curcubeu
Jun 12th, 2012, 03:50 PM
I think she'll get as far as McHale.

Sorana obviously didn't believe today.

postalblowfish
Jun 12th, 2012, 04:13 PM
Oudin has hit a bit of form recently.

Curcubeu
Jun 16th, 2012, 01:03 PM
R1 in Eastboune against defending champion Bartoli.

Curcubeu
Jun 19th, 2012, 10:55 PM
4 games against Marion on grass. Hard to say, although I expected more on a day full of surprises, but Bartoli is one of the most rewarded grass court players out there.

HowardH
Jun 20th, 2012, 02:49 PM
Well it was a tough draw. Let's see if she can produce something at Wimbledon.

Meelis
Jun 22nd, 2012, 02:24 PM
[11] Li Na (CHN) v Ksenia Pervak (KAZ)
Sorana Cirstea (ROU) v Pauline Parmentier (FRA)

100 points is possible.

Curcubeu
Jun 22nd, 2012, 05:00 PM
Didn't she lose to her 1 & 2 last year? :spit:

Anyway, people say Pauline was awful this week, please win it, Sorana!

Meelis
Jun 22nd, 2012, 09:57 PM
1 and 3 actually, but it´s better not to discuss that match...

Curcubeu
Jun 25th, 2012, 01:24 PM
won 6-4 6-1

Not broken once, finally a good match by her. :)

Who's next?

Meelis
Jun 25th, 2012, 03:49 PM
Who's next?

Once again Li.

Stevecw
Jun 25th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Great start Sori, very impressive :) Such a difficult 2nd round now v Li Na, but hopefully she can cause a shock :bounce:

hellas719
Jun 26th, 2012, 05:34 AM
WD Sori :yeah:
And also GL in doubles with Morita against Dellacqua/Stosur :bounce:

ALIEN
Jun 26th, 2012, 10:12 PM
She made it to R2?? Well, that's a rap guys , now she doesn't need to win any match for 6 months.I wonder how bad will Na Li destroy her tomorrow?

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2012, 10:17 PM
Sorana is the best possible match up for Li - 5 games I'd say.

ALIEN
Jun 27th, 2012, 10:44 AM
I say 4

Meelis
Jun 27th, 2012, 08:44 PM
Won 63 64 :lol:

Curcubeu
Jun 27th, 2012, 08:46 PM
That was obvious jinxing, Meelis.

Glad it worked, saved 10/12 BPs. Came back from 2-4 30-40 in the 2nd, mental GOAT













I can't :sobbing:

Meelis
Jun 27th, 2012, 08:51 PM
Doable path into quarters, but she will probably lose to Kirilenko now.

Curcubeu
Jun 27th, 2012, 08:57 PM
Doable path into quarters, but she will probably lose to Kirilenko now.

Maria had literally 2 walking byes so far and we all know, when Sorana is on a role, she really is.

Kirilenko is average on grass, Sorana definately has a shot.

grs
Jun 27th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Sorana :worship::worship::worship:

ALIEN
Jun 27th, 2012, 10:10 PM
Hmmm :scratch: I still have my doubts. We all know what happens with these girls when they eliminate a top seed early and the draw clears out somewhat. They lose to a nobody ... and now she faces Kirilenko , a huge threat. Didn't she demolish Sorana this year at Pattaya or somewhere?

Curcubeu
Jun 27th, 2012, 10:12 PM
Hmmm :scratch: I still have my doubts. We all know what happens with these girls when they eliminate a top seed early and the draw clears out somewhat. They lose to a nobody ... and now she faces Kirilenko , a huge threat. Didn't she demolish Sorana this year at Pattaya or somewhere?

Kirilenko isn't a complete nobody though, otherwise you are right.

It was a contested 3 set match with some high quality tennis in there.

ALIEN
Jun 27th, 2012, 10:19 PM
Thats what I said.:) Kirilenko is fierce competition. So the Pattaya match lasted 3 sets? Maybe there's still hope.

grs
Jun 27th, 2012, 10:19 PM
I couldn't call 6-2 5-7 6-4 demolish and Sorana has already taken 2 revenges at this WO. :)

postalblowfish
Jun 27th, 2012, 10:51 PM
Sori you genius.

Tennis Fool
Jun 27th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Glad to see at least one Romanian doing well. :) First win against Na.

austennisfan
Jun 28th, 2012, 08:00 AM
Sori should have a really good chance against Makiri as long as she stays mentally strong and we don't have a repeat of the third round of the Australian Open. Her quarter is opening up nicely.

vuhvuh
Jun 28th, 2012, 06:52 PM
oh really NA has big big proble mvery sad for her tbh in any dream I didnt thought Sorana could win seriously I didnt expect it at all anyway I am now mad tbh cause I dont think she will beat maria and then its easy way to quarters tbh I dont want Kiri in QF =//

HowardH
Jun 29th, 2012, 12:24 AM
Good luck to Sori in the next round. I think Kiri might be too consistent for her though (or that Sori might self-destruct).

hellas719
Jun 29th, 2012, 05:55 AM
OMG Sori :eek::banana:

Got thrashed in doubles though, but this s more important :p

austennisfan
Jun 29th, 2012, 06:04 AM
She lost to Stosur/Dellacqua though, who are a good team and who will hopefully do well at the Olympics. I just really hope she keeps it together tonight/today. Unfortunately, I don't think it will be on Australian TV.

Tennis Fool
Jun 29th, 2012, 07:29 PM
Sorana's currently down 46 03. Went downhill after a 6 minute game to begin the second, where Sorana failed to break Mikiri.

HowardH
Jun 29th, 2012, 07:37 PM
5-1 down. When on earth did Kiri get so loud?

It seems as though Kiri's focus and intensity is higher than Sori's, as I suspected. I can''t see a way back for Sorana at this stage of the match.

HowardH
Jun 29th, 2012, 07:44 PM
Sori :sad: :hug:.

Tennis Fool
Jun 29th, 2012, 07:47 PM
46 16. At least she matched her best ever effort here. Now time to prepare for the US hard courts.

vuhvuh
Jun 29th, 2012, 08:06 PM
really sorana I knew she will lose but it sucks damn Kirilenko will be now in QF at RG how ridiculous I tbh think she shouldnt be top20

ALIEN
Jun 29th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Horrible performance , her 1st serve was crap and she was SO BAD at the net! Of course I never expected much from the zombie who lost while leading with 5-0 in a third set. I'm just wondering how bad Na Li played!

Curcubeu
Jun 29th, 2012, 08:26 PM
Horrible performance , her 1st serve was crap and she was SO BAD at the net! Of course I never expected much from the zombie who lost while leading with 5-0 in a third set. I'm just wondering how bad Na Li played!

The problem with Sorana is that you can't say she played like that the round before, but she defeated Pauline quite easily as well before, I don't know.

R3, I take it.

ALIEN
Jun 29th, 2012, 11:19 PM
Well this is the second time I see her play against Kirilenko and I think she will never defeat her. Maria seems to be somewhat smarter , tennis wise at least.

Curcubeu
Jun 29th, 2012, 11:24 PM
Well this is the second time I see her play against Kirilenko and I think she will never defeat her. Maria seems to be somewhat smarter , tennis wise at least.

Let's be honest there, Alin.

Who doesn't?

ALIEN
Jun 30th, 2012, 08:43 AM
True :oh:

By the way , my real name is Adrian not Alin , the nickname is supposed to be read "ALIEN" :lol:

grs
Jun 30th, 2012, 10:10 AM
Well this is the second time I see her play against Kirilenko and I think she will never defeat her. Maria seems to be somewhat smarter , tennis wise at least.

The H2H is 2-2 :wavey:

ALIEN
Jun 30th, 2012, 06:36 PM
The thing is I don't see her progressing in the future , maybe I'm a pessimist ( and those two victories are before her slump )

Curcubeu
Jun 30th, 2012, 09:32 PM
True :oh:

By the way , my real name is Adrian not Alin , the nickname is supposed to be read "ALIEN" :lol:

My bad. I thought this one would have made more sense.

The thing is I don't see her progressing in the future , maybe I'm a pessimist ( and those two victories are before her slump )

She needs some serious brain checking. I mean, she is Top 40 in the Race, but still so many awful sets of tennis week in, week out. She's easily the most brainless player on court and that's a pity.

I've watched many matches from Sorana at the beginning of her career. She didn't have half the power of today, but she somehow constructed points and was a bit more consistent. Now she's hammering those balls and if it works, it's enough to dismiss her opponents easily, but when not, then it looks really ugly.

vuhvuh
Jul 1st, 2012, 07:11 PM
So next she plays Stanford and Carlsbad?

Curcubeu
Jul 1st, 2012, 08:11 PM
Stanford follwed by Carlsbad

ALIEN
Jul 1st, 2012, 10:59 PM
If by "play" you guys mean "visit the place for a couple of days" :oh:

ALIEN
Jul 14th, 2012, 02:36 AM
If by "play" you guys mean "visit the place for a couple of days" :oh:

What an asshole I am! :lol:

Zenjo
Jul 14th, 2012, 02:41 AM
Get ready for her to kick Serena's ass tomorrow.

ALIEN
Jul 14th, 2012, 02:58 AM
It's possible , I mean Serena should be pretty tired by now , she just won a slam , so ...

Meelis
Jul 26th, 2012, 11:29 AM
Good start of the games :cheer:

Cirstea/Halep vs. Williams sisters

Curcubeu
Jul 26th, 2012, 12:02 PM
R1 in singles against Pennetta

Don't know what to think of that.

Meelis
Jul 26th, 2012, 01:30 PM
Singles is definitely :unsure:

No idea which Sori and which Flavia will show up.

SidTheKid
Jul 26th, 2012, 01:42 PM
Sori good luck :)

soimu
Jul 26th, 2012, 01:45 PM
Good start of the games :cheer:

Cirstea/Halep vs. Williams sisters

They will get crushed. :oh:

Skoo
Jul 26th, 2012, 02:20 PM
Well, definitely a good chance against Pennetta :)

Curcubeu
Jul 28th, 2012, 03:01 PM
Lost 2-6 6-4 2-6

won 6 games in a row from 2-4 down in the second, lost 6 games in a row in the 3rd - classic Sorana.

Skoo
Jul 28th, 2012, 05:19 PM
Well, it definitely was a good chance for Pennetta :lol:

Jimmie48
Jul 28th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Even though I know I shouldn't I really got my hopes up when she was leading 2-0 in the third, seemed like the match had tipped over to her. Well, I guess not... :sad:

Belle de Jour
Jun 8th, 2013, 05:42 PM
Birmingham, MD:

(3)Sorana Cirstea (ROU) v. BYE
Tsvetana Pironkova (BUL) v. Lauren Davis (USA)
Andrea Hlavackova (CZE) v. Olga Puchkova (RUS)
Eugenie Bouchard (CAN) v. (13)Bojana Jovanovski (SRB)

Curcubeu
Jun 8th, 2013, 05:56 PM
I was just about to post what a brilliant draw that is until I looked closer seeing Pironkova awaiting her in R2.

On the other hand the Bulgarian is just awful at the moment only having won a total of 3 matches this year (2 of them in the 1st tournament). I don't know what to think about that.

Belle de Jour
Jun 8th, 2013, 05:59 PM
She might have a chance with Pironkova, but she'll be crushed by Jovanovski if she gets that far. That girl is gonna be soooo top 5 player once she gets her priorities right.

Tennis Fool
Jun 8th, 2013, 08:26 PM
Well, Sorana lost first round her last year, and this year she gets a BYE, so automatic points, whatever happens with Pironkova!

codrutc
Jun 8th, 2013, 08:42 PM
Well, Sorana lost first round her last year, and this year she gets a BYE, so automatic points, whatever happens with Pironkova!

I think she only gets 1st round loser points if she loses after a 1st round bye.

ALIEN
Jun 9th, 2013, 04:59 PM
She has 45% chances to get past BYE :lol:

Tennis Fool
Jun 11th, 2013, 02:26 AM
Gets Pironkova, who looks to be in GOAT mode :unsure:

Plus Sori lost to her on clay, so not expecting a win here :o Maybe she'll surprise me!

codrutc
Jun 11th, 2013, 02:51 AM
I'd be very surprised if Sorana wins this match.

ALIEN
Jun 11th, 2013, 04:11 PM
Sorana 7-5 6-3

Belle de Jour
Jun 11th, 2013, 04:22 PM
Sorana 7-5 6-3

Wishful thinking? :)

Curcubeu
Jun 11th, 2013, 07:01 PM
Expect the unexpected.

ALIEN
Jun 12th, 2013, 10:57 AM
Wishful thinking? :)



:oh:

Curcubeu
Jun 12th, 2013, 12:04 PM
6-4 6-4

More or less dominated the whole match with a small blip when missing one of the easiest volleys right in front of the net gifting Pironkova her 1st BP ending with a break.

Serving was flawless, she was also moving exceptionally well for her standards.

grs
Jun 12th, 2013, 12:28 PM
Sorana was patient ;)

Belle de Jour
Jun 12th, 2013, 05:27 PM
Well done, Sorana! Jovanovski next, as expected. Good luck with that little beast :)

Curcubeu
Jun 12th, 2013, 07:26 PM
Sorana is #22 in the live rankings now that Makarova and Cornet both lost today.

Chances are good to see her at a career high ranking after this week.

grs
Jun 12th, 2013, 07:29 PM
Well done, Sorana! Jovanovski next, as expected. Good luck with that little beast :)

Beating Woz these days means nothing, especially on clay. I remember that Sorana in 2009 beat 2 times in a row the up and coming Caroline, before that stupid foot injury who brought down our girl.

Belle de Jour
Jun 12th, 2013, 07:42 PM
I'm not talking (just) about Bojana beating Woz. I know beating Caroline means nothing these days, still Bojana did it twice in just 2 weeks and Sorana was bageled by Caro like three of four months ago.
What I'm talking about is Bojana and boy, that girl is fierce, she has power, has a great shot selection, she's fit, she moves great and if she will overcome her mental problems she's gonna be huge one day.

Sorana has a good chance against her, but if she will lose it won't be that much of a surprise for me. I hope she wins though :lol:

Tennis Fool
Jun 13th, 2013, 01:37 AM
Taking Tvesti on her best surface :eek: Good luck to her against BoJo!

soimu
Jun 13th, 2013, 06:55 PM
No words. :cuckoo:

Curcubeu
Jun 13th, 2013, 06:58 PM
That 2nd set never happened.

13 aces in a bit more than an hour. Serve is still firing, it seems.

Vekic for a spot in the semifinal.

Belle de Jour
Jun 13th, 2013, 08:13 PM
Woohoo!

Well done, Serena!

ALIEN
Jun 13th, 2013, 09:30 PM
What a bunch of choke artists! :sobbing: This piece of crap tournament is yours to lose BIATCH.

Curcubeu
Jun 13th, 2013, 09:57 PM
What a bunch of choke artists! :sobbing: This piece of crap tournament is yours to lose BIATCH.

You are quite on a role these days.

She will probably make the semis again and then get killed by someone who is taking care of her brain defections.

Tennis Fool
Jun 13th, 2013, 11:25 PM
Congrats to Cirstea for surviving the bowling alley score!

Now provisionally at her career high ranking of #22, and just a little over 200 points outside the Top 20!

Good luck to her against Vekic!

codrutc
Jun 14th, 2013, 01:07 AM
What about Donna Vekic? I didn't quite realize that she is only 16! She must be a great talent, the next big thing, to be in top 100 at her age and reach the quarterfinals in this tournament.

HowardH
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:37 AM
Congrats to Cirstea for surviving the bowling alley score!

Now provisionally at her career high ranking of #22, and just a little over 200 points outside the Top 20!

Good luck to her against Vekic!

What about Donna Vekic? I didn't quite realize that she is only 16! She must be a great talent, the next big thing, to be in top 100 at her age and reach the quarterfinals in this tournament.

Donna and Sori will be quite an eye-catching matchup, in my humble opinion.

Both like to strike the ball hard, have fairly big serves, and in general are very watchable, if they are not self-destructing.

I think Sorana should be the favourite at this stage, but with her I guess you never know. She could play like she did in the middle set against Bojana... hopefully not.

I foresee Donna as a future regular on the WTA but not sure about next big thing.
I think she is more of an early developer. She's certainly ahead of the others in her age group at the moment. Also she is based in Britain, goes to school there and trains there, so she is very comfortable on the grass.

Hopefully Donna will eventually prove me wrong and continue to improve, I like her game, hits quite hard but not completely without thought, but she needs to become fitter (she looks good but you can see she gets tired). I think she would be a nice addition to the upper echelons of the wta.

Congrats to Sorana for a career high ranking, although somehow it doesn't feel like she's in career best form. Actually I wish Sorana would take her fitness to the next level too, and also learn to think better on court.

With all players, especially female players, it's hard to tell when they will stop improving. Many hit early peaks and cannot find a way to progress further, but recently we have seen many players improve in the late part of their career as they mature and figure out what they need to do. In my opinion Sorana has been pretty stagnant for the last couple of years but then she's at a career high so maybe she is moving forward without me noticing.

Next goal is the top 20 for her! That would be a nice milestone.

grs
Jun 14th, 2013, 06:48 AM
Next goal is the top 20 for her! That would be a nice milestone.

Thanks for your interesting comments!
As about the milestones in WTA (and ATP) top we use to talk about being in top 30, 20, 10 or 5, but from the importance in great tournaments drawings point of view the milestones are 32, 24, 16, (12), 8, 4 and 2 :). So, her next goal must be top 16.

ALIEN
Jun 14th, 2013, 09:53 AM
You are quite on a role these days.

She will probably make the semis again and then get killed by someone who is taking care of her brain defections.

You know it. We've seen this "movie" a hundred times before and I'm already jaded with Sorana.

What about Donna Vekic? I didn't quite realize that she is only 16! She must be a great talent, the next big thing, to be in top 100 at her age and reach the quarterfinals in this tournament.
I remember when they were saying the same thing about Sorana some time ago :rolleyes:

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 01:56 PM
Little by little, getting trashed by Vekic. 62 now for the player with a brain.

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:11 PM
A true diva can't play with so many rain delays in between. The match was over already before it started.

Vekic is impressive, though. I remember her being unable to handle Irina-Camelia's serve in Tashkent last year, while she is pounding Sorana's serve today which is not that bad either (when it goes in)

grs
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:16 PM
It's not about brain, it's about legs. Sorana cannot keep her balance on that wet grass.

grs
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:17 PM
A true diva can't play with so many rain delays in between. The match was over already before it started.

Vekic is impressive, though. I remember her being unable to handle Irina-Camelia's serve in Tashkent last year, while she is pounding Sorana's serve today which is not that bad either (when it goes in)

Vekic reminds me of young (but a pretty faced one) Kvitova.

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:18 PM
This is true, but Sorana seems fairly annoyed anyway. What was that last service game again?

She is fed up with everything and this is the result. Wet grass doesn't help either, of course.

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:20 PM
C'mon man, rain and the wet grass must be annoying for both of them, but surely it affects The Targoviste Diva more. As always, when she can't handle a match, there's always an excuse like headaches, the wind, the rain, the sun, the stars, the moon. If she can't keep her balance on the wet grass, she should win them points with her service. And she's not. She's DFing like crazy and when she puts the second service in, she loses anyway.

Great display of tennis from a top 25 player :lol:

grs
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:23 PM
C'mon man, rain and the wet grass must be annoying for both of them, but surely it affects The Targoviste Diva more. As always, when she can't handle a match, there's always an excuse like headaches, the wind, the rain, the sun, the stars, the moon. If she can't keep her balance on the wet grass, she should win them points with her service. And she's not. She's DFing like crazy and when she puts the second service in, she loses anyway.

Great display of tennis from a top 25 player :lol:

Even Steaua can beat Bayern on a mud pit. :)

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:23 PM
C'mon man, rain and the wet grass must be annoying for both of them, but surely it affects The Targoviste Diva more.

Are you that guy in the prosport commentary section?

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:27 PM
Even Steaua can beat Bayern on a mud pit. :)

Is Sorana the Bayern Munich of WTA tennis now? :lol:

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:28 PM
Even Steaua can beat Bayern on a mud pit. :)

I'm not sure I get the comparison as I don't watch football. But if I'm not mistaken you are suggesting that Sorana is Bayern Munchen and Donna is Steaua Bucuresti. In this case, from what I've seen so far: Donna is Bayern! By far :lol:

Are you that guy in the prosport commentary section?

Huh?

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:31 PM
Huh?

There is a troll with the name 'Primadonna din Targoviste' spamming the tennis section. :lol:

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:34 PM
Had no idea. But I already like his name :lol: Primadonna sounds even better than diva.

It's an honest coincidence though. She acts like a diva (even you said so earlier) and she is from Targoviste.

grs
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:35 PM
Is Sorana the Bayern Munich of WTA tennis now? :lol:

You really don't understand what I wanted to say.

Let me put clear for you, in Romanian.

O suprafata proasta de joc niveleaza diferentele valorice dintre jucatori, pentru ca nu mai pot folosite la adevarata valoare calitatile tehnice tactice. Din acest motiv unele cluburi practica udarea masiva a terenului inainte de meci. Inclusiv Bayern a facut acest lucru inainte de meciul cu Barcelona din semifinale (neasteptat totusi la acest nivel - oricum calificarea si cupa au fost supermeritate).



Cat despre Sorana, scuza asta e irelevanta la pretentiile ei, dar nu uita ca Nadal a urlat cateva zile cat de nedreptatit a fost ca luat bataie de la Verdasco pe zgura albastra de la Madrid.

Sorry Aaron, I thought for a moment that you are Uncurv :) I have an excuse - I've catched a strong cold.

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:37 PM
He/She will be on fire again after this 'performance', but I haven't seem him for quite some time. :lol:

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:42 PM
You really don't understand what I wanted to say.

Let me put clear for you, in Romanian.

O suprafata proasta de joc niveleaza diferentele valorice dintre jucatori, pentru ca nu mai pot folosite la adevarata valoare calitatile tehnice tactice. Din acest motiv unele cluburi practica udarea masiva a terenului inainte de meci. Inclusiv Bayern a facut acest lucru inainte de meciul cu Barcelona din semifinale (neasteptat totusi la acest nivel - oricum calificarea si cupa au fost supermeritate).

Cat despre Sorana, scuza asta e irelevanta la pretentiile ei, dar nu uita ca Nadal a urlat cateva zile cat de nedreptatit a fost ca luat bataie de la Verdasco pe zgura albastra de la Madrid.

Yeah, that makes sense.

Vekic is living in Britain, so she exactly knows how to play tennis on grass, but I'm pretty sure the wetness of the surface isn't playing the decisive role here.

It's in the head. You would think Sorana is the 16 year old the way she behaves at times.

grs
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:47 PM
Yeah, that makes sense.

Vekic is living in Britain, so she exactly knows how to play tennis on grass, but I'm pretty sure the wetness of the surface isn't playing the decisive role here.

It's in the head. You would think Sorana is the 16 year old the way she behaves at times.

You're right - Sorana is a smart girl but emotional she seams to not be mature enough. The "show" displayed at Marachesh says all about this.

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 02:52 PM
As far as I know, Vekic is living in GB only for a few months as part of a tennis experiment for talented juniors who live and train together, it's not like she is all of a sudden Britsh :lol: But she does look well on grass, that's for sure.

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 04:22 PM
26 16

If I were her I'd leave England asap and skip Wimbledon this year :lol:

Curcubeu
Jun 14th, 2013, 04:35 PM
Wouldn't read much into it.

She really didn't care or to say it with the words of Holy Alexandra

http://i.imgur.com/wPU40.gif

ALIEN
Jun 14th, 2013, 05:21 PM
Blatista ordinara :oh:

overrule
Jun 14th, 2013, 05:26 PM
Is anyone here ever surprised by Sorana's results (win or lose, unless she's playing Serena)? Are you ever not surprised?

Every time I think she's finding her form, she throws in a stinker like this. Was Donna really that good, or did Sorana just mail this one in?

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 06:12 PM
Blatista ordinara :oh:

:haha:

codrutc
Jun 14th, 2013, 11:01 PM
As far as I know, Vekic is living in GB only for a few months as part of a tennis experiment for talented juniors who live and train together, it's not like she is all of a sudden Britsh :lol: But she does look well on grass, that's for sure.

In this 2012 interview she said that she'd been training in England for 4 years with an English coach.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9OqUf1vexMs

Belle de Jour
Jun 14th, 2013, 11:16 PM
My mistake, sorry :)

I must admit after seeing this vid, I like her even more. Now not only her tennis is better than Birdie's, but also her English. Way to go, Donna!

Tennis Fool
Jun 14th, 2013, 11:50 PM
Sorana, that score :facepalm: Welp.

codrutc
Jun 15th, 2013, 12:36 AM
My mistake, sorry :)

I must admit after seeing this vid, I like her even more. Now not only her tennis is better than Birdie's, but also her English. Way to go, Donna!

Oh yes, her English is just lovely.

HowardH
Jun 15th, 2013, 12:39 AM
What was that? :help: I realise Donna is very comfortable on grass, training in England, but still that scoreline... Sori is still so unreliable.

Donna is living in England so her English is very good. I do like her game, nice serve, big game with potential (I think her forehand swing volley is somewhat unreliable- goes long but maybe that will improve), and she seems sweet, still Sorana's performance today was very poor. Oh well, at least the ranking system they use doesn't subtract points for losses to lower ranked players, Sorana still on the verge of the top 20 and hopefully she can do something in Wimbledon.

codrutc
Jun 15th, 2013, 12:59 AM
I see Sorana is playing in Eastbourne next week. I find it interesting where they hold these tournaments preceding Wimbledon, north and south of London, respectively.

Curcubeu
Jun 15th, 2013, 08:41 AM
Is anyone here ever surprised by Sorana's results (win or lose, unless she's playing Serena)? Are you ever not surprised?


Nope.

Expect the unexpected or expect everything.

I was convinced she would flop to Pironkova already, so this week turned out better than I thought. Vekic was playing really well, though, so it would have been very hard for her to beat her even at normal standards.

grs
Jun 15th, 2013, 02:07 PM
WTA #22 from Monday (thanks to Riske :) )

Curcubeu
Jun 15th, 2013, 02:10 PM
WTA Eastbourne, Main Draw:

(3)Kerber v Cirstea
Q v Makarova
Q v Robson
Paszek v (5)Wozniacki

Kerber is really good on grass. Don't expect much from her, but she hasn't anything to defend either.

codrutc
Jun 15th, 2013, 04:10 PM
Impossible draw.

Tennis Fool
Jun 15th, 2013, 06:50 PM
H2h, Sori is 1-all against Angie, having defeated her in Miami. This is their first meeting on grass, a surface Sori does know how to play.

Angie will be super focused however, as she has finalist points to defend.

Curcubeu
Jun 17th, 2013, 07:28 AM
It's funny to see her reaching a career high, but the international interest in her cheering thread seems to be as low as never before.

codrutc
Jun 17th, 2013, 07:40 AM
It's funny to see her reaching a career high, but the international interest in her cheering thread seems to be as low as never before.

That's probably because it's more fun to bash her than to praise her. :)
On the other hand there is this feeling that even though she reached a career high her game is not exciting enough to support the rankings and her high rankings could be because of some favorable circumstances this year.

Curcubeu
Jun 17th, 2013, 06:14 PM
It's only fun when you read how overrated she is on TF according some posters when there is nothing going on in her cheering thread.

Meelis
Jun 17th, 2013, 06:42 PM
Overrated? Maybe four years ago, but definitely not nowadays.

Curcubeu
Jun 17th, 2013, 06:47 PM
I agree. IMO, she is the only tennis player right now on which your usual TF mass doesn't react all over after a good performance, despite looks, firepower and everything. And how right they are.

However, it doesn't prevent them from hyping Goerges after having her one good win a year.

Belle de Jour
Jun 17th, 2013, 09:33 PM
That's probably because it's more fun to bash her than to praise her. :)
On the other hand there is this feeling that even though she reached a career high her game is not exciting enough to support the rankings and her high rankings could be because of some favorable circumstances this year.


http://i44.tinypic.com/5x7tbb.jpg

Just look at those two comments :rolleyes:

Now I know those are the words of two frustrated guys who bet and lost some money on her, but I have a feeling you don't have to lose money to bash her. Sometimes she just gives you the feeling that she's not even trying... She's 22nd now, but just like you said she reached this position because of a favorable conjuncture. Lepchenko and Makarova are also inside the top 30 and they're not even half as talented as Sorana.

Curcubeu
Jun 18th, 2013, 07:56 AM
http://i44.tinypic.com/5x7tbb.jpg

Just look at those two comments :rolleyes:

Now I know those are the words of two frustrated guys who bet and lost some money on her, but I have a feeling you don't have to lose money to bash her. Sometimes she just gives you the feeling that she's not even trying... She's 22nd now, but just like you said she reached this position because of a favorable conjuncture. Lepchenko and Makarova are also inside the top 30 and they're not even half as talented as Sorana.

And that's exactly the point.

Sometimes it's very hard to cheer for her or support her, because indeed, she just doesn't care at times.

Belle de Jour
Jun 18th, 2013, 12:33 PM
Fell 4&4 to Angie.

Curcubeu
Jun 18th, 2013, 12:49 PM
Respectable.

Better drawing luck in London.

overrule
Jun 18th, 2013, 07:15 PM
Respectable.

Better drawing luck in London.

Will she get a top #24 seed at Wimbledon? Or do they use the previous week's ranking?

Curcubeu
Jun 18th, 2013, 08:10 PM
This week's ranking.

overrule
Jun 18th, 2013, 09:30 PM
This week's ranking.

Thanks!

Tennis Fool
Jun 19th, 2013, 03:22 AM
Budding rivalry with Angie.

Good luck to her at Wimbledon!

It's funny to see her reaching a career high, but the international interest in her cheering thread seems to be as low as never before.
Increased ranking usually means more tv exposure. Helps that she's beautiful. They will come. It could be worse. When Nadia Petrova was nearing back to the Top 10, there were just two of us still regularly posting there! And look at Top 5 Sara Errani, her forum is dead, dead, dead!

Tennis Fool
Jun 20th, 2013, 03:52 AM
Sori is the #22 seed :yeah:

Belle de Jour
Jun 21st, 2013, 01:02 PM
Wimbledon:

(15)Marion Bartoli (FRA) v. Elina Svitolina (UKR)
Christina McHale (USA) v. Alexa Glatch (USA)
Camila Giorgi (ITA) v. Samantha Murray (GBR)
Stefanie Voegele (SUI) v. (22)Sorana Cirstea (ROU)

Tricky opener for Sorana, but the rest of the draw is more than decent. I know Bartoli used to be a finalist here, but those days are gone gone gone and she is beatable.

Si Si Simona
Jun 21st, 2013, 01:16 PM
wow! seriously I am shocked to find this sub-forum ! :worship:
Romanian guys and girls speaking in English ONLY about Sorana! I didn't know such forum exists.
I am a Simona fan, I hope they are friends :) I don't know if they are.. I just hope ;)
Good luck to Sorana in London! :)

Si Si Simona
Jun 21st, 2013, 01:18 PM
Sori is the #22 seed :yeah:

Hi :wavey:
Sori sounds like sorry, is that really ok? :)
First time I see that Sorana is called sori. I hope she will be happy :)

ALIEN
Jun 21st, 2013, 01:34 PM
wow! seriously I am shocked to find this sub-forum ! :worship:
Romanian guys and girls speaking in English ONLY about Sorana! I didn't know such forum exists.
I am a Simona fan, I hope they are friends :) I don't know if they are.. I just hope ;)
Good luck to Sorana in London! :)

Are you on drugs? :lol:

Si Si Simona
Jun 21st, 2013, 01:51 PM
Are you on drugs? :lol:

my first time on this tennis forum! I just found it 2 hours ago!
great to see a section of Romania players and every player has its own section and its own fans!
I was never in connection with tennis people on forums, just watched on tv. I am like a little kid in a chocolate shop! :bounce: :lol:
love this place and the Romanian guys here :cool:
I hope you are all friends here and don't fight each other :)

ALIEN
Jun 21st, 2013, 02:14 PM
my first time on this tennis forum! I just found it 2 hours ago!
great to see a section of Romania players and every player has its own section and its own fans!
I was never in connection with tennis people on forums, just watched on tv. I am like a little kid in a chocolate shop! :bounce: :lol:
love this place and the Romanian guys here :cool:
I hope you are all friends here and don't fight each other :)

Oh, ok! :yeah:

HowardH
Jun 21st, 2013, 04:19 PM
wow! seriously I am shocked to find this sub-forum ! :worship:
Romanian guys and girls speaking in English ONLY about Sorana! I didn't know such forum exists.
I am a Simona fan, I hope they are friends :) I don't know if they are.. I just hope ;)
Good luck to Sorana in London! :)

my first time on this tennis forum! I just found it 2 hours ago!
great to see a section of Romania players and every player has its own section and its own fans!
I was never in connection with tennis people on forums, just watched on tv. I am like a little kid in a chocolate shop! :bounce: :lol:
love this place and the Romanian guys here :cool:
I hope you are all friends here and don't fight each other :)

Hi :wavey:

Not only Romanian people here. People from all over the world. America, Russia, England, Australia etc. That's why the Romanian posters are posting in English, so that people in other places can also understand them. I'm a New Zealand follower of Sorana's tennis. Not much fighting within player forums, but on the other hand in General Messages where fans of all players talk (and argue), it can be total mayhem.

Eye-candy matchup with Stefanie. Hope the camera-people are ready. Overall quite a good draw for Sorana.

Si Si Simona
Jun 21st, 2013, 04:29 PM
Hi :wavey:

Not only Romanian people here. People from all over the world. America, Russia, England, Australia etc. That's why the Romanian posters are posting in English, so that people in other places can also understand them. I'm a New Zealand follower of Sorana's tennis. Not much fighting within player forums, but on the other hand in General Messages where fans of all players talk (and argue), it can be total mayhem.

Eye-candy matchup with Stefanie. Hope the camera-people are ready. Overall quite a good draw for Sorana.

Hi there :) good luck to Sorana.
I wish the best to all the Romanian girls and not just in tennis.
Thanks for the info about this website. I am still new here and learning the manners. ;)
Yes, Sorana is good looking and needs to smile more, so she needs to win more :lol:

Curcubeu
Jun 21st, 2013, 07:28 PM
Very good draw for Sorana, so she's probably fucking it up.

However, possible best friend battle with Marion in R3 should be motivation enough.

Already looking forward to the match full of tactical tennis and great touch awaiting us in R2, though.

Tennis Fool
Jun 22nd, 2013, 02:55 AM
Hi :wavey:
Sori sounds like sorry, is that really ok? :)
First time I see that Sorana is called sori. I hope she will be happy :)
Welcome to the forum :wavey:

I've seen Soriana called Sori here, so I just joined the bandwagon :unsure:

Tennis Fool
Jun 22nd, 2013, 02:58 AM
Tricky opener for Sorana,
Tricky in that she's gone 3-sets with her on two occasions, but she's still 3-0. This is their first meeting on grass, but I think Sorana will be victorious.

ALIEN
Jun 23rd, 2013, 01:42 PM
She is playing tomorrow on Court 16. Looks like she is our only WTA player in the first day if I'm not mistaken.

Si Si Simona
Jun 23rd, 2013, 03:02 PM
She is playing tomorrow on Court 16. Looks like she is our only WTA player in the first day if I'm not mistaken.

the second game on court 16. all other Romanian girls play on Tuesday.

Iaco
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:11 PM
That's just embarrassing...cannot even beat Voegele...too painful to watch that game...

Belle de Jour
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:13 PM
Voegele plays very good lately and frankly I'm not at all surprised.

Iaco
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:16 PM
She can play well but the most annoying thing is the constant UE on rather easy shots...

grs
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:24 PM
6-5 Sorana

grs
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:31 PM
7-5 Sorana after a good enough level of tennis played by both players.

Iaco
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:31 PM
7-5 good for her...still not good enough...when is she gonna start playing smart tennis and give it a break with this BBB:(

Si Si Simona
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:34 PM
Sorana fights ! :)

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 02:58 PM
She recover from 1-3 to 4-3

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:00 PM
I see that Sorana is motivated. A good sign

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:04 PM
5-5 in the 2-nd.

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:06 PM
14 unforced errors for Sorana, onlu 8 for Voegele. Too much:(

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:19 PM
6-6 and 3 matchpoints for Sorana. Good luck!

Belle de Jour
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:20 PM
She did it, eventually, but what a struggle. 75 76(3)in the end.

Giorgi next! :bounce:

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:20 PM
Sorana win!!! Congratulations!

grs
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:22 PM
29 winners / 29 UE - that's not bad!

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:24 PM
Voegele (SUI) Cirstea (ROU)
1 Aces 1
3 Double faults 3
45 of 89 = 51 % 1st serves in 47 of 80 = 59 %
29 of 45 = 64 % 1st serve points won 32 of 47 = 68 %
19 of 44 = 43 % 2nd serve points won 15 of 33 = 45 %
16 of 18 = 89 % Net points won 15 of 25 = 60 %
4 of 10 = 40 % Break points won 5 of 12 = 42 %
33 of 80 = 41 % Receiving points won 41 of 89 = 46 %
13 Winners 29
32 Unforced errors 29
81 Total points won 88

Si Si Simona
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:24 PM
good win! :) she can go 2-3 rounds why not?
the Romanian girls push each other with good results and belief and its good! :)

each player has its style. at 1-4 it didn't look good but Sorana fights.

degady64
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:27 PM
She must improved shes game to beat Georgi

Belle de Jour
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:28 PM
She must improved shes game to beat Georgi

It will be easier against Giorgi. Today was the big test :lol:

Si Si Simona
Jun 24th, 2013, 03:31 PM
Sorana has a good draw ! Giorgi and then Bartoli or McHale. not bad

ALIEN
Jun 24th, 2013, 04:01 PM
She has an easier opponent next round. You know what that means! :lol:

Si Si Simona
Jun 24th, 2013, 05:00 PM
She has an easier opponent next round. You know what that means! :lol:

harder opponent, was R4 last year. it means that she wins! what were you thinking? ;)

Belle de Jour
Jun 24th, 2013, 05:02 PM
harder opponent, was R4 last year. it means that she wins! what were you thinking? ;)

Means that he knows Sorana :lol:

Si Si Simona
Jun 24th, 2013, 05:12 PM
Means that he knows Sorana :lol:

That's how Sorana is. She fights hard and she does what she knows. She is 23 in the world and that's nice and respectful. :)
Its no shame to be 23 in the world

overrule
Jun 24th, 2013, 05:35 PM
Voegele has had much better form and results this year than Giorgi. On paper, that was the tougher match. But if Giorgi plays like she did last year, it could be a very tough match. Both players hit really hard. The steadier player will win.

Curcubeu
Jun 24th, 2013, 06:03 PM
Straight set win against a player who is Top 40 in the Race and people complaining?

I take it.

Next round is a must win, but it will be painful.

overrule
Jun 24th, 2013, 06:16 PM
This may be one of the few times we can say that Sori is the steadier player.

grs
Jun 24th, 2013, 06:17 PM
Sorana won in a day in which Nadal was beaten by nr 125 ATP and Paire lost a set to Ungur !

Curcubeu
Jun 24th, 2013, 06:23 PM
Sorana won in a day in which Nadal was beaten by nr 125 ATP and Paire lost a set to Ungur !

I don't know which of the above is more shocking, to be honest.

ALIEN
Jun 24th, 2013, 06:37 PM
I think Nadal played on one leg to be honest but Darcis was brilliant, he played a great match.

grs
Jun 24th, 2013, 06:44 PM
I think Nadal played on one leg to be honest but Darcis was brilliant, he played a great match.

One leg? This match is the first played after RG final, where he had 2 very good legs. Strange that his injuries happened exactly after the end of the clay season.

Coming back to our topic, I think that is time for Sorana to pass the round 3 and have an encounter with Sharapova in R4.

Belle de Jour
Jun 24th, 2013, 07:03 PM
Coming back to our topic, I think that is time for Sorana to pass the round 3 and have an encounter with Sharapova in R4.

OMG :lol:

Let's just give her the Wimbledon trophy already :haha:

She should consider herself lucky if she reaches 3rd round again.

Chessmind
Jun 24th, 2013, 08:24 PM
Why do we, Romanians, have this unequalled talent of veiling our own players in subtle irony whether or not there is a reason for it ? Just wondering.

Curcubeu
Jun 24th, 2013, 08:33 PM
Because we care about them.


It's a bit teasing, nothing more. Sorana for example has days where she is that embarrassingly bad that there is no way you can't make fun about it.

Still, there is a lot of good debating in Tennis Romania in comparison to other sections on this board where the only thing being discussed are the outfits at the player's party.

grs
Jun 24th, 2013, 08:37 PM
OMG :lol:

Let's just give her the Wimbledon trophy already :haha:

She should consider herself lucky if she reaches 3rd round again.

Why lucky? At GS Sorana have lost only 2 times against lower players, but never when she was seeded. So all our "it's about Sorana, we have to expect anything" isn't quite exactly right on GS.

Belle de Jour
Jun 24th, 2013, 08:38 PM
Why do we, Romanians, have this unequalled talent of veiling our own players in subtle irony whether or not there is a reason for it ? Just wondering.

That was a bit nasty, I admit :)

And she doesn't deserve nasty remarks after today's win, I agree. But comments and predictions like Sorana reaching 4th round here make me smile. She will most likely lose in the third (if she gets there), come back to Romania and give short interviews for newspapers & television saying that "Yeah, it was a good tournament for me!"

Expect only this and maybe you'll have a nice surprise in the end.
Expect anything more form Sorana (not all Romanian players as you suggested) and there's a big probability that you'll be disappointed.

codrutc
Jun 24th, 2013, 10:49 PM
Great win against a tough opponent. I am one of the people that refuses to get too high or low about Simona's performances because I can't deal with emotional extremes. I hope she can at least make it to the 4th round like grs said, but if not that's fine.

codrutc
Jun 25th, 2013, 12:29 AM
When did Sorana get in the habit to do a fist pump after every good ball? It's simply irritating.

Si Si Simona
Jun 25th, 2013, 04:06 AM
Because we care about them.


It's a bit teasing, nothing more. Sorana for example has days where she is that embarrassingly bad that there is no way you can't make fun about it.

Still, there is a lot of good debating in Tennis Romania in comparison to other sections on this board where the only thing being discussed are the outfits at the player's party.

:yeah:

Si Si Simona
Jun 25th, 2013, 08:28 PM
Sorana plays tomorrow last on court 18. streamed, its court 18 :)

Tennis Fool
Jun 26th, 2013, 02:05 AM
It will be easier against Giorgi.
Agree.

Good luck to Sorana!

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 06:46 PM
Her match got moved to Court 12. It's a streamed court, but I haven't found a stream yet.

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 06:54 PM
Here is it

http://www.kakibara.com/watch/live/streaming/online/free/tv/5/63247/june-24-2013/wimbledon-court-12.html

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 06:56 PM
Here is it

http://www.kakibara.com/watch/live/streaming/online/free/tv/5/63247/june-24-2013/wimbledon-court-12.html

Thank you, kind Sir!

LefandePatty
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:05 PM
The stream doesn't work for me. :awww:

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:11 PM
It's now on livescorehunter as well

Sorana blwoing too many chances...

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:17 PM
so fucking unneccessary.

LefandePatty
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:20 PM
Hold now Sori!

Si Si Simona
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:31 PM
good luck Sorana :)

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:34 PM
what a shitfest

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:37 PM
I can't stop laughing

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:47 PM
So your opponent makes 8 df in a set, plays like crap and you still lose the set. This is hilarious :lol:

Thank God she's seeded 22nd, guys! Biiiiig difference :lol:

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:48 PM
Nice choke.

Still not as good as Monica's.

codrutc
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:49 PM
awfull

codrutc
Jun 26th, 2013, 07:51 PM
The stream doesn't work for me. :awww:

Try this one

http://www.sportlemon.tv/20130623/vv51c72ea450b018.16839210-598087.html

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 08:23 PM
trainwreck tennis

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 08:28 PM
Sorana is playing safetier now.

Really now, in a day in witch Federer, Sharapova, Hewitt, Jankovic, etc were eliminated I will be surprised if Sorana wins. :)

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 08:34 PM
Vomitiv(a)

Meelis
Jun 26th, 2013, 08:37 PM
Mess

LefandePatty
Jun 26th, 2013, 08:58 PM
:sobbing:

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 08:58 PM
Impressive.

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:00 PM
OMG :lol:

Let's just give her the Wimbledon trophy already :haha:

She should consider herself lucky if she reaches 3rd round again.


She still should consider herself lucky, I'm sure she lost just in time to catch some wedding in Targoviste :lol:

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:06 PM
She still should consider herself lucky, I'm sure she lost just in time to catch some wedding in Targoviste :lol:

:hysteric:

You know you're choking is really one of epic proportions if it looks as if you are tanking, because it defies the capabilities of an ordinary human mind.

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:10 PM
She still should consider herself lucky, I'm sure she lost just in time to catch some wedding in Targoviste :lol:

And she has Sharapova, Federer, Nadal, Jankovic, Ivanovic, Azarenka, Tsonga, Hewitt, etc among the people invited?

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:11 PM
:hysteric:

You know you're choking is really one of epic proportions if it looks as if you are tanking, because it defies the capabilities of an ordinary human mind.

Getting on a court with no strategy at all (except for her constant & annoying "Hai, trage de tine!") defies logic.

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:12 PM
And she has Sharapova, Federer, Nadal, Jankovic, Ivanovic, Azarenka, Tsonga, Hewitt, etc among the people invited?


C'mon, man, don't even put her name close to those of Roger, Maria, Lleyton, Jo & Vika. Just don't!

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:13 PM
And she has Sharapova, Federer, Nadal, Jankovic, Ivanovic, Azarenka, Tsonga, Hewitt, etc among the people invited?

They all lost to players who were at least playing well and they all lost in 'normal' fashion, Sorana on the other hand flopped to a player who hit 8 DFs in the 1st set alone, wasting SPs in both TBs.

Obligatory DF on SP included.

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:14 PM
C'mon, man, don't even put her name close to those of Roger, Maria, Lleyton, Jo & Vika. Just don't!

Why not? They all lost to much lower ranked opponent!

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:15 PM
They all lost to players who were at least playing well and they all lost in 'normal' fashion, Sorana on the other hand flopped to a player who hit 8 DFs in the 1st set alone, wasting SPs in both TBs.

Obligatory DF on SP included.

I only watched a bit of Lleyton's match and Sharapova's second set, and I agree. Their opponents played Solid today and deserved the wins. Sorana just choked with a player who was an UE and DF machine today and who only won 3 main draw matches this year until this one.

Si Si Simona
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:15 PM
Sorana is playing safetier now.

Really now, in a day in witch Federer, Sharapova, Hewitt, Jankovic, etc were eliminated I will be surprised if Sorana wins. :)

Sharapova, Tsonga, Federer, Nadal, Azarenka, Hewitt, Jankovic , Ivanovic, Errani
in two days

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:18 PM
Why not? They all lost to much lower ranked opponent!

Because they are Grand Slam champions or finalist, that's why. And because Sorana is not & will never be one :lol:

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:22 PM
I only watched a bit of Lleyton's match and Sharapova's second set, and I agree. Their opponents played Solid today and deserved the wins. Sorana just choked with a player who was an UE and DF machine today and who only won 3 main draw matches this year until this one.

Giorgi and Cirstea plays similar style of game, like they are sister. In such a match usually win the girl who are feeling better in that day and who had a bit of luck. Also, I have the feeling that Giorgi like more to play on grass because she can move a little faster and can bend a little better.

I bet with everyone that on HC or clay Sorana wins 8 / 10 matches against Giorgi.

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:22 PM
To be honest, the Govortsova who was playing Simona in R1 would have destroyed Sorana today. She was just that bad. They were both absolutely atrocious.

The only thing that helped and made them look better was that either player was hitting straight down the middle for 90% of the match.

Iaco
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:24 PM
Because they are Grand Slam champions or finalist, that's why. And because Sorana is not & will never be one :lol:

Or at least a SFlist:D...i was too interested in the Stako - Fedex match to see "sori" implode yet again to number 999,9(9)WTA...she takes the first B in BBB to an art form:D

LE: What i saw today from the Sharapova match Govortsova would've disposed of her too...

Si Si Simona
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:25 PM
a new coach maybe?... you all know why I say that :)
Sorana really needs a change of direction

noname29
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:26 PM
It's very painful:) to watch a match of Sorana. It should appear a notice... inappropriate for weak nerves and heart.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/ab9521a0013415086a8b29954eb22e08/tumblr_mm8lrkrbNi1s34dqyo1_250.gif

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:27 PM
Because they are Grand Slam champions or finalist, that's why. And because Sorana is not & will never be one :lol:

I am sure of that. For this reason I cannot be harsh with her. There are other expectations from a champions than from a top 20-30 girl.
Please be reasonable and don't expect much from Sorana. This is all she can, at least in this moment.

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:27 PM
Sorana can be happy she won a match. R2 matches don't hurt that much as it is just an additional 60 points and her friend Marion would have murdered her like that.

However, Sorana would have played a good match against Bartoli as usual against higher ranked opponents.

Her half of the draw is an absolute choke and she once again fucked up big time.

Si Si Simona
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:28 PM
It's very painful:) to watch a match of Sorana. It should appear a notice... inappropriate for weak nerves and heart.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/ab9521a0013415086a8b29954eb22e08/tumblr_mm8lrkrbNi1s34dqyo1_250.gif

she is leaving her brain outside the court and refuses to use it

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:31 PM
It's very painful:) to watch a match of Sorana. It should appear a notice... inappropriate for weak nerves and heart.


That should be a notice for all Romanian players.

This year now - it's half over, Romanian tennis players have already wasted and lost after 3 MPs and 11 SPs on WTA level.

However, it's definitely an improvement to last year where it was 13 MPs and 15 SPs at that time.

:worship:

Iaco
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:34 PM
At least she has time now to pose another "impromptu" photo shoot with her bestie and Dani in tow for the new Adidas training apparel...

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:36 PM
That should be a notice for all Romanian players.

This year now - it's half over, Romanian tennis players have already wasted and lost after 3 MPs and 11 SPs on WTA level.

However, it's definitely an improvement to last year where it was 13 MPs and 15 SPs at that time.

:worship:

On the other hand they already have won 3 WTA tournaments - the same amount as the last 4 years, and for the first time after many, many years we will have 2 girls in top 30.

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:37 PM
On the other hand they already have won 3 WTA tournaments - the same amount as the last 4 years, and for the first time after many, many years we will have 2 girls in top 30.

Yes, there are definitely improvements, but the mental instability is really a big throw back for most of our girls.

noname29
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:38 PM
Nice choke.

Still not as good as Monica's.

At least Monica shocked face a better player and rated. I would give the prize to Sorana :hug:

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:39 PM
I am sure of that. For this reason I cannot be harsh with her. There are other expectations from a champions than from a top 20-30 girl.
Please be reasonable and don't expect much from Sorana. This is all she can, at least in this moment.

We're on the same page, mate! Look:

She will most likely lose in the third (if she gets there), come back to Romania and give short interviews for newspapers & television saying that "Yeah, it was a good tournament for me!"

Expect only this and maybe you'll have a nice surprise in the end.
Expect anything more form Sorana (not all Romanian players as you suggested) and there's a big probability that you'll be disappointed.

And trust me I am a very reasonable person :)

Belle de Jour
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:44 PM
On the other hand they already have won 3 WTA tournaments - the same amount as the last 4 years, and for the first time after many, many years we will have 2 girls in top 30.

Sori will be out from top 30 in no time. She had a dreadful 2011 season and in 2012 the only way was up. Only showing to competitions brought her points. Now she has to defend all the points from last year and I'm pretty sure she won't be able to. Not with today's tennis & mindset.

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:48 PM
Sorana is ranked comfortably inside the Top 30 in the Race.

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:48 PM
Yes, there are definitely improvements, but the mental instability is really a big throw back for most of our girls.

That mental stability or instability has strict connected with the value or lack of value.
Look to Federer (of course I talk now at highest level) for example - in his GOAT period he destroyed the opponents throwing his best shots in the very key moments of the match (as at MP. 3 of 4 consecutive huge services at BPs, huge returns at his BPS, etc). Now he uses to fall in such moments, losing when you expect to finish in style.

Iaco
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:53 PM
Too bad for her that she's wasting those physical attributes...with some mindless tennis and flawed technique...that FH still looks like crap...i don't understand what Andre is teaching her:D

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 09:54 PM
That mental stability or instability has strict connected with the value or lack of value.
Look to Federer (of course I talk now at highest level) for example - in his GOAT period he destroyed the opponents throwing his best shots in the very key moments of the match (as at MP. 3 of 4 consecutive huge services at BPs, huge returns at his BPS, etc). Now he uses to fall in such moments, losing when you expect to finish in style.

Yes, it's a matter of self-confidence.

I remember Irina-Camelia straight setting her way without any drama to the latter stages of the tournaments in her breakthrough year, then her first major choke against Vinci in Budapest Final and since then, every match a fuckery.

However, there is absolutely no reason for Sorana to be still this tight in key moments. She is just letting her emotions getting the better end of her.

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 10:03 PM
However, there is absolutely no reason for Sorana to be still this tight in key moments. She is just letting her emotions getting the better end of her.

But let's give credit to Giorgi for the way she saved those 2 SP's in the second sets - she was really amazing, nothing to do from Sorana.
Many times, bashing our favorite for losing we make an injustice to the winner, taking out from his/her merits.

Curcubeu
Jun 26th, 2013, 10:07 PM
True, but the two points that followed were even more comical.

It's the small things. It doesn't need to have a crass error as many 'mental' aspects aren't that visible. It's a lack of 1st serve, a shorter ball, a ball hit too far central, holding back here, not moving with 100% fluidity there.

For example, in many of Monica's matches, I've simply seen here going for the completely wrong shot at those points. It's also looks that your opponent were saving them when you hit a slice forehand without depth, straight into the middle of the court, but actually it was a sign of mental weakness as well.

Losing that 1st set was just ridiculous after SPs, wasting 7 BPs, serving for it. Losing the second wasn't much better. She should have won both sets before going into the TB, that whole fuckery there was needless.

Si Si Simona
Jun 26th, 2013, 10:27 PM
However, there is absolutely no reason for Sorana to be still this tight in key moments. She is just letting her emotions getting the better end of her.

Its lack of self confidence, not too much emotions. she has only one emotion during the game: stress
her face expression shows everything. Sorana needs to learn the
3rd dimension. you know what I mean. she has a flat game.

Si Si Simona
Jun 26th, 2013, 10:36 PM
On the other hand they already have won 3 WTA tournaments - the same amount as the last 4 years, and for the first time after many, many years we will have 2 girls in top 30.

4 WTA tournaments with begu and olaru in doubles, not 3.

grs
Jun 26th, 2013, 10:39 PM
4 WTA tournaments with begu and olaru in doubles, not 3.

Sorry, for me double doesn't count. (Maybe only there are both Romanians in it).

All 3 are in single - 1 Niculescu, 2 Halep.

Si Si Simona
Jun 26th, 2013, 10:40 PM
Sorry, for me double doesn't count. (Maybe only there are both Romanians in it).

All 3 are in single - 1 Niculescu, 2 Halep.

opss.. I forgot the Monica title and thought you were talking about doubles.

overrule
Jun 26th, 2013, 11:12 PM
This one has to hurt more than any I can remember. Speechless on how she lost both of those sets.

She seemed too high-strung throughout the match. She needs to relax and try to enjoy the game a bit more.