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NAT
May 29th, 2012, 06:18 AM
Hello all,

I am hoping maybe some of our Russian/Ukrainian friends can help me with a question. I will be travelling through Europe this summer, going east for a bit. I am having trouble finding a rental company that will let me rent a car in Germany (Munich) and also take it to Russia/Ukraine. Anybody know of one? If not, we are thinking of leaving the car in Helsinki and doing a bit by train. Does anybody know a good site for Russian train schedules? Thinking specifically of Helsinki-St.Petersburg, St.Petersburg-Moscow, Moscow-Kiev, Kiev-Lviv, Lviv-Krakow. Also which stations in each of those cities for those destinations. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Sam L
May 29th, 2012, 08:04 AM
I'm doing Moscow to St Petersburg too and hoping to take the Sapsan. I don't have the ticket yet because they said you can only book a few weeks in advance. It's 4 hours between the two cities. But there are also other overnight trains going between Moscow and St Petersburg leaving around 11pm and getting in the other city in the morning.

Fantasy Hero
May 29th, 2012, 08:59 PM
I can't help with the site, but i might ask to my russian teacher. In any case the line that goes from Helsinki to Saint Peterburg is really good and fast, but if you want to save money, there are several busses ;)
As for Moscow-St.Peterburg, there's one of the fastest train line in the world, don't know about costs though.
I'll be going to Kiev by bus-coach from Germany too this summer, if i find anything i'll tell you :D

NAT
May 30th, 2012, 01:34 AM
Thanks for the info, it is appreciated. Any more help out there from any others would also be welcome.

ys
May 30th, 2012, 02:47 AM
Russian Railways official cite would probably be a good starting point..

http://eng.rzd.ru/statice/public/rzdeng?STRUCTURE_ID=4144

bavaria86
May 30th, 2012, 08:08 AM
i would advise to travel with train in countries like russia, ukraine and belarus ;)
its cheap and safe and less problems with the police!

NAT
May 31st, 2012, 11:09 PM
Thanks again. Keep em coming. :)

lefty24
Jun 1st, 2012, 12:16 AM
I'm doing Moscow to St Petersburg too and hoping to take the Sapsan. I don't have the ticket yet because they said you can only book a few weeks in advance. It's 4 hours between the two cities. But there are also other overnight trains going between Moscow and St Petersburg leaving around 11pm and getting in the other city in the morning.

I'm doing Moscow to St Petersburg as well! I can't wait.
When are you going?

Serenus Christ
Jun 1st, 2012, 07:51 AM
I want to do this in spring/summer 2013!

Sam L
Jun 1st, 2012, 08:33 AM
I'm doing Moscow to St Petersburg as well! I can't wait.
When are you going?
Late July.

Does anyone know if there are still any steam engine trains running between St Petersburg and Moscow like in the 19th century?

Dexter
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:19 PM
I strongly advise against traveling in your own car to Russia/Ukraine, let alone a rented one (they will not be happy if you mention you're going there). You need to have a lot of papers to go through the border and sooner or later policemen will stop you and pick on something what's wrong seeing you have a foreign car registration and will spot you as an easy target to get money from. It's quite inevitable from the stories I've heard.
Travel by train. It's safe and reasonably cheap (well, Sapsan is not, but it's quite and comfortable). I have traveled by overnight train a handful of times between St Petersburg and Moscow. You board late in the evening and arrive in Moscow/Petersburg early in the morning. You can get the ticket through the website rzd.ru or through some travel agent. I would not risk waiting to get the ticket on the spot as summer is the high season and tickets get sold quite quickly.
Have fun, Russia is a lot of fun and people over there are very friendly (especially in St. Petersburg, not so much in Moscow). :)

Sam L
Jun 4th, 2012, 11:09 AM
I got my Sapsan ticket. Yay! And a window seat as well! :)

I can't wait.

Sam L
Jun 4th, 2012, 11:10 AM
I strongly advise against traveling in your own car to Russia/Ukraine, let alone a rented one (they will not be happy if you mention you're going there). You need to have a lot of papers to go through the border and sooner or later policemen will stop you and pick on something what's wrong seeing you have a foreign car registration and will spot you as an easy target to get money from. It's quite inevitable from the stories I've heard.

I have no experience in this but I have read the same.

bavaria86
Jun 4th, 2012, 12:03 PM
I have no experience in this but I have read the same.
Especially without any knowledge of russian being stopped by an policemen ca cause lots of troubles!
So travelling by train you will be fine;)

lefty24
Jun 5th, 2012, 02:38 AM
Late July.

Does anyone know if there are still any steam engine trains running between St Petersburg and Moscow like in the 19th century?

My dad said there aren't any.

I'm going during WImbledon, so does anyone know any good bars in St Petersburg and Moscow that show tennis?