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MakarovaFan
May 22nd, 2012, 01:56 PM
And risk her amazing streak? She won't be fully heatlhy and most likely will dud loss yet on the other hand, NY brings something special for Kim so just being there could really motivate her- hell motivation and desire got her all the way to the SFs of this years' Aussie Open, and she has won a USOpen before on even less prep....

But what is at stake-
3 consecutive titles
21 straight wins
Hasn't lost before the Final since 2002
And has won 27 of her last 28 matches at Flushing

She won't go out on top like Graf(?) or Henin(first time did) but playing and winning could send her out on a high....yet on the flip side, leaving the sport with such a streak is also pretty amazing.

Doully
May 22nd, 2012, 02:05 PM
I know what you mean.

Henin losing her RG streak (no losses since 2004 and 40 consecutive sets :sobbing:) was a pretty impressive streak - smooshed by Sam Stosur (and Maria for the consecutive sets).

Still. I'd like to see her play. Barring injury from the rest of the top players, it could prove to be a really interesting slam this year.

stromatolite
May 22nd, 2012, 02:18 PM
Of course she should play if she's fit. Whether she wins or not is immaterial, the main thing is for her to bow out on a big stage befitting her status. I can see her getting a standing ovation reminiscent of the one Andre Agassi got in 2006.

vozas
May 22nd, 2012, 02:29 PM
Of course she should play if she's fit. Whether she wins or not is immaterial, the main thing is for her to bow out on a big stage befitting her status. I can see her getting a standing ovation reminiscent of the one Andre Agassi got in 2006.

Yeah I'm here for that.

TheBoiledEgg
May 22nd, 2012, 02:31 PM
she's fit for RG and isnt playing RG either :o

Jorn
May 22nd, 2012, 02:34 PM
I read about her, she plays in an exo soon... They also writes she looks forward playing the US Open...

Justin
May 22nd, 2012, 02:39 PM
If she's healthy, of course she will. She's a professional athlete. And Graf didn't go out on top.

StoneRose
May 22nd, 2012, 02:40 PM
She should especially play USO. Her chances on grass are not nearly as good.

MistyGrey
May 22nd, 2012, 03:09 PM
If she's healthy, of course she will. She's a professional athlete. And Graf didn't go out on top.

Ranked #3, RG champ, Wimbledon runnerup.. :tape:

Justin
May 22nd, 2012, 03:35 PM
Ranked #3, RG champ, Wimbledon runnerup.. :tape:


Near the top does not equal ON top. :wavey:

And you forgot her last match, a loss to Amy Frazier. :tape:

Stonerpova
May 22nd, 2012, 03:36 PM
Of course she should. 90% of her career highlights happened there.

John.
May 22nd, 2012, 03:37 PM
She most definately should. It's been her most successful slam, and I'm sure it's the place she would love to play her last ever competitive match

Sammo
May 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM
Near the top does not equal ON top. :wavey:

And you forgot her last match, a loss to Amy Frazier. :tape:

A retirement against Amy Frazier to be exact. Also Amy Frazier was a top 15 player, it's not that embarrassing.

Mary Cherry.
May 22nd, 2012, 03:38 PM
Of course she should. 90% of her career highlights happened there.

This. Even if she goes out early at this year's tournament, it would take nothing away from her previous achievements there.

That, and the fact she's chosen the USO as her very last tournament says a lot.

marineblue
May 22nd, 2012, 03:46 PM
Yes, she did not get to play too much and this was a tournament where she's achieved one of her biggest triumphs.

dsanders06
May 22nd, 2012, 03:48 PM
I think she has a great chance of winning it anyway :shrug: I mean in a hardcourt Slam just a few months ago (which isn't even as well-suited to her game as the USO), she was a few games away from making the final while playing with an ankle injury. Who really starts as favourite over her there?

thrust
May 22nd, 2012, 03:51 PM
she's fit for RG and isnt playing RG either :o

Probably true, but Kim does not do very well on clay so is cleverly saving herself for the 3 big events she has a chance of winning: USO, wimbledon and the Olympics. Some of the top players may be worn out by then, but Kim should be fresh and able to do well in these events. This is what she did in 09, coming back towards the end of the season in order to do well in the US hard courts season and USO.

mistymore
May 22nd, 2012, 06:01 PM
I think she has a great chance of winning it anyway :shrug: I mean in a hardcourt Slam just a few months ago (which isn't even as well-suited to her game as the USO), she was a few games away from making the final while playing with an ankle injury. Who really starts as favourite over her there?

Serena, Sharapova, Azarenka, would all be more favored than Clijsters for the U.S Open right now.

missvarsha
May 22nd, 2012, 06:14 PM
Probably true, but Kim does not do very well on clay so is cleverly saving herself for the 3 big events she has a chance of winning: USO, wimbledon and the Olympics. Some of the top players may be worn out by then, but Kim should be fresh and able to do well in these events. This is what she did in 09, coming back towards the end of the season in order to do well in the US hard courts season and USO.


Well she has certainly hoarded up on the Eastbournes and Den Bosches, but Wimbledon has always been St. Kimberle's worst slam performance every year.
Is it because of a mental block, or is it because of her hideously boring one dimensional game, well I don't know.
But the notion that the saint has a better chance in London than Paris...I just don't know where that fiction has originated from.

Now at the USOpen of course, she will just "Vulture" her way into the late rounds that's almost a given so she should definitely play there...

Charlatan
May 22nd, 2012, 07:01 PM
she should...hardcourts have become her better surface...even playing with the supposed ankle injury this year at AO, she got to the semi, losing to the eventual champion in 3 sets...may be she can snap the last USO before retiring

spencercarlos
May 22nd, 2012, 07:12 PM
she should...hardcourts have become her better surface...even playing with the supposed ankle injury this year at AO, she got to the semi, losing to the eventual champion in 3 sets...may be she can snap the last USO before retiring
She got that injury live on TV :rolleyes: we all saw.

Justin
May 22nd, 2012, 09:08 PM
A retirement against Amy Frazier to be exact. Also Amy Frazier was a top 15 player, it's not that embarrassing.


Yup. A retirement loss to the 26th ranked Frazier is not embarrassing by any means. In fact, nobody said that it was.

Back to the topic, l'm looking forward to seeing Kim play the US Open again this year! Hope she wins it.

sammy01
May 22nd, 2012, 09:13 PM
she will be there, i have a feeling kim will give a huge push to go out on a high with a big title or deep run at either wimbledon, olympics or us open.

as for her being fit, she has already said she started training 2 weeks ago and is fully fit and injury free. she is even going to go to rosemalan as early as this week to start practicing on grass.

us open is the best place for kim to say goodbye to tennis, winning the title or not.

Marlene
May 22nd, 2012, 09:24 PM
Of course she should play if she's fit. Whether she wins or not is immaterial, the main thing is for her to bow out on a big stage befitting her status. I can see her getting a standing ovation reminiscent of the one Andre Agassi got in 2006.

A year ago, then yes; ending her career with a great run at the US Open would've been befitting. (Yes, I realise she was rehabbing an injury at the time, but hypothetically...). But at this point I feel she's missed the chance to bow out in a graceful way - she's been out with injury after injury, she's skipped everything Asian with various lame excuses, and she's been on the way out since like forever.

I was pro Kim 2.0 for a year and half - even though we all knew this comeback was temporary and she was gonna be a part-time player due to the kiddo - but when she used the tsunami disaster as an excuse to skip the Asian swing, 6 months premature, I ran out of respect for her. Either quit or commit... but don't pull that shit. Karma-wise, embarrassing 1st round losses in the tourneys she deems worthy of her presence would seem befitting. But I imagine she'll leave with somewhat decent results... being St. Kim and all. But really, it's time for her to retire and make room for players who care about the tour.

Andrewraven
May 22nd, 2012, 09:27 PM
Of course she should :) she has a great shot at winning it if she is healthy

Charlatan
May 22nd, 2012, 10:42 PM
She got that injury live on TV :rolleyes: we all saw.

where did i say otherwise? it's just the word 'supposed' :shrug:

JRena
May 22nd, 2012, 11:04 PM
I want a Serena vs Clijster rematch goddangit

MakarovaFan
May 22nd, 2012, 11:59 PM
This. Even if she goes out early at this year's tournament, it would take nothing away from her previous achievements there.

That, and the fact she's chosen the USO as her very last tournament says a lot.
True, but if she doesn't play she will walk away with one of the greatest streaks in tennis history( 3 straights titles, no loss in technically 10 years, 21 match streak....)

MakarovaFan
May 23rd, 2012, 12:00 AM
where did i say otherwise? it's just the word 'supposed' :shrug:
:confused: Do you even know what the word "supposed" means/implies....:rolleyes:

Charlatan
May 23rd, 2012, 12:04 AM
:confused: Do you even know what the word "supposed" means/implies....:rolleyes:

:lol: i know it...i actually didn't know why i even used it in the first place...but the scene of kim running side to side during that match after the injury kind of holds me back so i can't help :o

Stonerpova
May 23rd, 2012, 12:07 AM
True, but if she doesn't play she will walk away with one of the greatest streaks in tennis history( 3 straights titles, no loss in technically 10 years, 21 match streak....)

It's one of the greatest streaks in history? :confused:

stromatolite
May 23rd, 2012, 08:25 AM
A year ago, then yes; ending her career with a great run at the US Open would've been befitting. (Yes, I realise she was rehabbing an injury at the time, but hypothetically...). But at this point I feel she's missed the chance to bow out in a graceful way - she's been out with injury after injury, she's skipped everything Asian with various lame excuses, and she's been on the way out since like forever.

I was pro Kim 2.0 for a year and half - even though we all knew this comeback was temporary and she was gonna be a part-time player due to the kiddo - but when she used the tsunami disaster as an excuse to skip the Asian swing, 6 months premature, I ran out of respect for her. Either quit or commit... but don't pull that shit. Karma-wise, embarrassing 1st round losses in the tourneys she deems worthy of her presence would seem befitting. But I imagine she'll leave with somewhat decent results... being St. Kim and all. But really, it's time for her to retire and make room for players who care about the tour.

Fair points, the comparison with Agassi was probably not justified. To be honest my admiration for Kim already dwindled a lot in the final year of her first career, when it was pretty clear she was just going through the motions waiting to retire. I was very impressed by her dramatic comeback, but as you said since then she's been a part-time player at best, only a part of which can be explained by actual injuries. Still, flawed though she undoubtedly is, she's still one of the outstanding players of her generation, and I hate it when stars leave the tour via the backdoor. The USO is the scene of her greatest triumphs, so seems to me to be the best arena for her farewell.

Marcus1979
May 23rd, 2012, 09:10 AM
True, but if she doesn't play she will walk away with one of the greatest streaks in tennis history( 3 straights titles, no loss in technically 10 years, 21 match streak....)

Chris Evert won it 1975, 1976, 1977, 1978

Maria rocks
May 23rd, 2012, 11:59 AM
Yeah course she should.

Marlene
May 23rd, 2012, 05:02 PM
Fair points, the comparison with Agassi was probably not justified. To be honest my admiration for Kim already dwindled a lot in the final year of her first career, when it was pretty clear she was just going through the motions waiting to retire. I was very impressed by her dramatic comeback, but as you said since then she's been a part-time player at best, only a part of which can be explained by actual injuries. Still, flawed though she undoubtedly is, she's still one of the outstanding players of her generation, and I hate it when stars leave the tour via the backdoor. The USO is the scene of her greatest triumphs, so seems to me to be the best arena for her farewell.

You've got good points as well. And I think I came off a little more grumpy that I intended to. If Clijsters shows up with dedication and puts in some real work for those last 3 months, then yes; then the US Open would be a fitting way to end it.

Vuvurenka
May 23rd, 2012, 05:40 PM
Why not, US Open is the slam where she accomplished the most in her entire career so of course she should finish off her career there

sammy01
May 23rd, 2012, 07:19 PM
You've got good points as well. And I think I came off a little more grumpy that I intended to. If Clijsters shows up with dedication and puts in some real work for those last 3 months, then yes; then the US Open would be a fitting way to end it.

lloks like she will be -

http://sport.be.msn.com/kimclijsters/eng/nieuws/article.html?Article_ID=586115&utm_source=www.kimclijsters.be-ENG&utm_campaign=sportbe_rss&utm_medium=rss

"Kim is ready for her comeback at the WTA tournament of Rosmalen. On Wednesday she already heads for the Netherlands to train on the grass there.
Kim is currently working hard to make her comeback in Rosmalen. She will return to competition at the WTA tournament in Rosmalen. "I already have had a pitch prepared in Rosmalen so that I can train on grass," Kim said. On Wednesday she already heads for the Netherlands for a first time. Because of the bad weather of the recent weeks, she tried to mimic playing on grass by playing on carpet.

Kim started training again two weeks ago. "I feel the court again very well," she says, delighted. She does not fear a new injury. "Those injuries have been very frustrating, because I'd rather play matches." It does hurt that the French Open will be starting soon without her. "It might not be my favourite type of court, it remains a special tournament. Yet, it would be too risky to play there now. The clay season is difficult for me. "

OLYMPIC GAMES
Kim does hope to benefit from her injuries. "My schedule has been much less busy. For the main contenders that's quite different. " However, now that Kim no longer is a top seed for the Olympics, she will likely play reputed opponents soon. "It hardly matters to be honest. Playing those girls even adds to the motivation."

Kim is also looking forward to the Olympics. "The Olympic fever is growing," she said. "I always sympathized with the Belgian athletes at the Olympics, like with Tia Hellebaut. I look forward to share that experience myself."

In a few months Kim will conclude her tennis career as a pro for good. The U.S. Open will be her last major tournament. "That will be a special tournament," she told a press conference at the presentation of StarMeal, abrand new food concept.

"We'll be in the United States with my husband's family. The U.S. Open is the perfect way to say goodbye." Clijsters won the U.S. Open three times already (2005, 2009 and 2010). This year the American Grand Slam starts on 27 August."

manu32
May 23rd, 2012, 10:00 PM
Olympics really? her ranking after FO?
I saw her playing a few times ,not exciting imo, a great pusher?yes

Marlene
May 24th, 2012, 11:32 PM
lloks like she will be - [snip]

Let's wait and see if she makes it though all of those scheduled tourneys... or is she has to "revise" her schedule. I'd like for her to make it through those last few months in a memorable way, but her track record ain't the best as of lately.

dsanders06
May 25th, 2012, 01:58 AM
lloks like she will be -

http://sport.be.msn.com/kimclijsters/eng/nieuws/article.html?Article_ID=586115&utm_source=www.kimclijsters.be-ENG&utm_campaign=sportbe_rss&utm_medium=rss

"Kim is ready for her comeback at the WTA tournament of Rosmalen. On Wednesday she already heads for the Netherlands to train on the grass there.
Kim is currently working hard to make her comeback in Rosmalen. She will return to competition at the WTA tournament in Rosmalen. "I already have had a pitch prepared in Rosmalen so that I can train on grass," Kim said. On Wednesday she already heads for the Netherlands for a first time. Because of the bad weather of the recent weeks, she tried to mimic playing on grass by playing on carpet.

Kim started training again two weeks ago. "I feel the court again very well," she says, delighted. She does not fear a new injury. "Those injuries have been very frustrating, because I'd rather play matches." It does hurt that the French Open will be starting soon without her. "It might not be my favourite type of court, it remains a special tournament. Yet, it would be too risky to play there now. The clay season is difficult for me. "

OLYMPIC GAMES
Kim does hope to benefit from her injuries. "My schedule has been much less busy. For the main contenders that's quite different. " However, now that Kim no longer is a top seed for the Olympics, she will likely play reputed opponents soon. "It hardly matters to be honest. Playing those girls even adds to the motivation."

Kim is also looking forward to the Olympics. "The Olympic fever is growing," she said. "I always sympathized with the Belgian athletes at the Olympics, like with Tia Hellebaut. I look forward to share that experience myself."

In a few months Kim will conclude her tennis career as a pro for good. The U.S. Open will be her last major tournament. "That will be a special tournament," she told a press conference at the presentation of StarMeal, abrand new food concept.

"We'll be in the United States with my husband's family. The U.S. Open is the perfect way to say goodbye." Clijsters won the U.S. Open three times already (2005, 2009 and 2010). This year the American Grand Slam starts on 27 August."

I'll hold my breath until we actually see her playing some matches. She was in good shape ahead of Australia and Miami as well, but she still picked up injuries because her body was so out of match rhtythm (no matter how much you practice, you can never simulate the type of tension your body is in in matches). Unfortunately it seems she still hasn't learnt her lesson and thinks her body will just cooperate with her whenever she wants to play no matter how infrequently :tape:

JCTennisFan
May 25th, 2012, 03:01 AM
She would have won the AO if it were not for her injury IMO... so of course she should. It is absolutely the best place for her to exit. She won her first Slam there, won her first Slam post retirement, and hopefully will win her last slam performed in (12 US Open).

The 2nd Law
May 25th, 2012, 03:35 AM
Absolutely yes. It's her best slam, she'd have a great chance of going deep or winning, and it would give her fans one last chance of seeing her on the big stage, something which has been almost a rarity lately.

JCTennisFan
May 25th, 2012, 05:11 AM
Absolutely yes. It's her best slam, she'd have a great chance of going deep or winning, and it would give her fans one last chance of seeing her on the big stage, something which has been almost a rarity lately.

This is very sad to me. I felt as though Kimmie was on to something after her back to back US 10 / AO 11 but then the injuries started getting in the way :sad: .

JCTennisFan
May 25th, 2012, 05:26 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQdqyGD387c

This kind of stuff is what we will be missing soon :( . With Serena serving at 30/0 4/5 1st set, Kim comes up with two points which are just :eek: . I hope she can bring some of this level to her last Us open.