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clonesheep
May 22nd, 2012, 06:44 AM
Remember 2004 when all-Russian RG final kicked start the Russian waves? Before that touranment, many Russians had ascended to top 20 or even top 10 but few thought any of them will win a slam anytime soon. It can be said that the all-Russian final was a shock, and Myskina's winning was the sweetest in recent memory.

I see some similarity with the Germans this year. They are really making waves. Kerber, Barthel, Goerges, Petkovic, and Lisicki all have the ability to beat top-10 players on a good day. They are as good as the top 5 Russians at 2004 RG. Just like 2004, 2012 is also a transition year except that Serena is in good shape now.

How lovely would it be if it's a Kerber vs. Barthel final? I am seriously thinking of betting some money on it.

binky-GOAT
May 22nd, 2012, 08:24 AM
Go ahead, but I won't be following.

duhcity
May 22nd, 2012, 08:32 AM
Kerber will go deep.
The rest, without Petkovic of course, will not make it past the 4r.

yaju0208
May 22nd, 2012, 08:34 AM
Awesome I really likehttp://www.interbankforex.info/kv.gif

C. Drone
May 22nd, 2012, 10:12 AM
Remember 2004 when all-Russian RG final kicked start the Russian waves? Before that touranment, many Russians had ascended to top 20 or even top 10 but few thought any of them will win a slam anytime soon. It can be said that the all-Russian final was a shock, and Myskina's winning was the sweetest in recent memory.

I see some similarity with the Germans this year. They are really making waves. Kerber, Barthel, Goerges, Petkovic, and Lisicki all have the ability to beat top-10 players on a good day. They are as good as the top 5 Russians at 2004 RG. Just like 2004, 2012 is also a transition year except that Serena is in good shape now.

How lovely would it be if it's a Kerber vs. Barthel final? I am seriously thinking of betting some money on it.

:lol:

aguy9797
May 22nd, 2012, 10:18 AM
hmmm....I wish them all well but the odds are trivial.

With Petko being injured, Angie Kerber is the only good player Germany has at the moment.

Gorges and Lisicki can (and should) be out of Top 30 soon

Mona has had some moderate success as a new comer, but it will get tougher for her as players have started to figure out her game.

bbjpa
May 22nd, 2012, 11:06 AM
Panova has a great chance of final then :lol:

mk27
May 22nd, 2012, 11:20 AM
Gorges and Lisicki can (and should) be out of Top 30 soon

Görges won't be out of the top 30 soon, she's at #13 in the race. ;)

serendipitynow
May 22nd, 2012, 11:21 AM
why not.. but very unlikely.. :shrug:

Cp6uja
May 22nd, 2012, 11:28 AM
My prediction:

RG/2012 Final: J.Goerges(GER)/S.Lisicki(GER) def. A.Kerber(GER)/A.L.Groenefeld(GER) 7-5 6-3

Juju Nostalgique
May 22nd, 2012, 11:53 AM
So is Serena applying for German citizenship? :shrug: :scratch:

kangwoo
May 22nd, 2012, 02:13 PM
doubt it will happen in RG 2012...clay isnt their forte

ElusiveChanteuse
May 22nd, 2012, 02:16 PM
Not impossible but unlikely will be on RG, although RG is where miracles happen.:oh:

Tenis Srbija
May 22nd, 2012, 02:19 PM
Remember 2004 when all-Russian RG final kicked start the Russian waves? Before that touranment, many Russians had ascended to top 20 or even top 10 but few thought any of them will win a slam anytime soon. It can be said that the all-Russian final was a shock, and Myskina's winning was the sweetest in recent memory.

I see some similarity with the Germans this year. They are really making waves. Kerber, Barthel, Goerges, Petkovic, and Lisicki all have the ability to beat top-10 players on a good day. They are as good as the top 5 Russians at 2004 RG. Just like 2004, 2012 is also a transition year except that Serena is in good shape now.

How lovely would it be if it's a Kerber vs. Barthel final? I am seriously thinking of betting some money on it.

:speakles: really? But really!?!?!?!?!???

Well, they do say that gambling is taxes for fools, so go ahead :yeah:

Queenpova
May 22nd, 2012, 02:23 PM
Remember 2004 when all-Russian RG final kicked start the Russian waves? Before that touranment, many Russians had ascended to top 20 or even top 10 but few thought any of them will win a slam anytime soon. It can be said that the all-Russian final was a shock, and Myskina's winning was the sweetest in recent memory.

I see some similarity with the Germans this year. They are really making waves. Kerber, Barthel, Goerges, Petkovic, and Lisicki all have the ability to beat top-10 players on a good day. They are as good as the top 5 Russians at 2004 RG. Just like 2004, 2012 is also a transition year except that Serena is in good shape now.

How lovely would it be if it's a Kerber vs. Barthel final? I am seriously thinking of betting some money on it.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gscszzTg1rtjju7o1_r1_500.gif

kangwoo
May 22nd, 2012, 02:39 PM
wait for batherl to mature in her games...the rest just dont have enough style

atominside
May 22nd, 2012, 03:11 PM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gscszzTg1rtjju7o1_r1_500.gif

:haha:

Vulturepova
May 22nd, 2012, 04:45 PM
But the Russians already had real pedigree in 2004. Several top 10 players and had actually reached the finals of a tier 1 and above before.

The best German currently is Kerber.

Enough said.

Charlatan
May 22nd, 2012, 07:34 PM
this forum really loves to get ahead of itself, doesn't it?

TennisAddict84
May 22nd, 2012, 07:39 PM
mona has the game to beat anyone when she's on, but right now she's still too inconsistent for me to see her going deep at RG

C. Drone
May 22nd, 2012, 09:32 PM
mona has the game to beat anyone when she's on, but right now she's still too inconsistent for me to see her going deep at RG

really?

guys, just stop.:lol:

Vincey!
May 22nd, 2012, 09:35 PM
Barthel will never be top 10. Goerges and Lisicki are not in the best of form, Petkovic coming from injury for RG? not gonna go deep. The only one I see with a stretch to the QF would be Kerber but she'd need a decent draw maybe falling on Radwanska or Wozniacki in R16.

TennisAddict84
May 22nd, 2012, 11:09 PM
really?

guys, just stop.:lol:

Well, I've only seen Mona on her game for stretches at a time during a match, but never in its entirety. That's why if she becomes more consistent on her serve and off the ground, then she will be a threat to win tournaments for sure. But obviously that's a big if. The same can be said of Lisicki, but I guess in her defense, Sabine is injured too often to sustain any momentum.

clonesheep
May 23rd, 2012, 03:00 AM
For those who said Mona is inconsistent, untested, etc., remember that Sharapova was inconsistent and ranked around No.30 before Wimbledon 2004. Mona has the talent so you never know.

ScrubLove
May 23rd, 2012, 03:07 AM
For those who said Mona is inconsistent, untested, etc., remember that Sharapova was inconsistent and ranked around No.30 before Wimbledon 2004. Mona has the talent so you never know.

Maria was the 13th seed at Wimbledon in 2004...:confused:

Also she had just won Birmingham 2 weeks before that. Meanwhile Barthel's preparation has consisted of losing to Panova in straight sets. I like Mona and her game but she hasn't really given any sort of indicator big enough to say that she's ready to do what Maria did in 04.

young_gunner913
May 23rd, 2012, 03:10 AM
I never thought of it that way. This is brilliant. You should bet your life savings on this outcome.

dybbuk
May 23rd, 2012, 03:19 AM
Maria was the 13th seed at Wimbledon in 2004...:confused:

Also she had just won Birmingham 2 weeks before that. Meanwhile Barthel's preparation has consisted of losing to Panova in straight sets. I like Mona and her game but she hasn't really given any sort of indicator big enough to say that she's ready to do what Maria did in 04.

+ Maria had been consistently cleaning up at small events for the past year and had just come off a RG QF. Her situation is not even remotely similar to Kerber's.

The only German atm with pedigree similar to the Russian's pre-2004 is Petkovic. Before RG 2004 Myskina and Dementieva had already beaten the Belgians and WS and were competing for big Tier II and I's, and Sharapova was rocketing up with a bunch of small titles and big wins at bigger events. Kerber beats Wozniacki and Barthel chokes to Azarenka.

Pvt. Kovalenko
May 23rd, 2012, 03:31 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3gscszzTg1rtjju7o1_r1_500.gif
Lovely :inlove:

Remember 2004 when all-Russian RG final kicked start the Russian waves? Before that touranment, many Russians had ascended to top 20 or even top 10 but few thought any of them will win a slam anytime soon. It can be said that the all-Russian final was a shock, and Myskina's winning was the sweetest in recent memory.

I see some similarity with the Germans this year. They are really making waves. Kerber, Barthel, Goerges, Petkovic, and Lisicki all have the ability to beat top-10 players on a good day. They are as good as the top 5 Russians at 2004 RG. Just like 2004, 2012 is also a transition year except that Serena is in good shape now.

How lovely would it be if it's a Kerber vs. Barthel final? I am seriously thinking of betting some money on it.
Since you do not make death threats for any of them, like someone did to Svetlana, in case you lose your money (and I'm pretty sure you will), go for it..

Stonerpova
May 23rd, 2012, 03:52 AM
So much for the Barthel hype being down :rolleyes:

I think Kerber's got a shot at making like the quarters, and Julia could make the second week if she miraculously finds form, but Barthel's is too hot and cold (and she'll probably draw Azarenka anyway), Lisicki just lost to Parmentier, and Petko has awful karma and can't play.

Charlatan
May 23rd, 2012, 04:02 AM
mona has the game to beat anyone when she's on, but right now she's still too inconsistent for me to see her going deep at RG

:speakles: Peak Barthel coming for Peak Pierce's wig for the peak-unbeatable status :scared:

Queenpova
May 28th, 2012, 01:32 PM
How lovely would it be if it's a Kerber vs. Barthel final? I am seriously thinking of betting some money on it.

http://i677.photobucket.com/albums/vv137/psp358/gifs/tanisha-laugh.gif

C. Drone
May 28th, 2012, 01:41 PM
it was close. :hug:

Stonerpova
May 28th, 2012, 01:49 PM
Maria was the 13th seed at Wimbledon in 2004...:confused:

Also she had just won Birmingham 2 weeks before that. Meanwhile Barthel's preparation has consisted of losing to Panova in straight sets. I like Mona and her game but she hasn't really given any sort of indicator big enough to say that she's ready to do what Maria did in 04.

She was also the tennis equivalent of a fetus :lol: Pointless comparison.