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danieln1
May 21st, 2012, 03:24 PM
Maybe the title.will.go.to.one.of.them, maybe another darkhorse....

But.we all.know what will happen if.those.two.meet.in Paris :oh:

They split the most.important clay.titles this.year, but Paris.is.sooo unpredictable :silly:

NashaMasha
May 21st, 2012, 03:26 PM
I won't vote until draw is published.....

JustPetko
May 21st, 2012, 03:28 PM
Oudin.

18majors
May 21st, 2012, 03:34 PM
It's Maria's time!

Dan_Doe
May 21st, 2012, 03:56 PM
Both have chances, but I expect someone more random to win, someone like Errani, Na Li or Wozniacki. Oh, wait. I mean Errani or Na Li :spit:

Roookie
May 21st, 2012, 04:00 PM
My prediction thread was closed but here again: Serena will win Roland Garros 2012.

hBence
May 21st, 2012, 04:41 PM
My prediction thread was closed but here again: Serena will win Roland Garros 2012.

Let it be true!!!

vozas
May 21st, 2012, 04:42 PM
My prediction thread was closed but here again: Serena will win Roland Garros 2012.

This

Chip.
May 21st, 2012, 04:43 PM
Serena hasn't lost a match on clay this year, so..

Alejandrawrrr
May 21st, 2012, 04:45 PM
My prediction thread was closed but here again: Serena will win Roland Garros 2012.

No, Maria will [/counterjinx]

Monzanator
May 21st, 2012, 05:01 PM
Serena hasn't lost a match on clay this year, so..

Neither of them was on red clay, but Serena has bigger chance of losing against some random journeywoman than Sharapova. Maria's only chance of winning RG is to avoid Serena along the way = major draw collapse in her favor. She may beat Li, Radwanska and whoever else, but she's not going past Serena :shrug:

ptkten
May 21st, 2012, 05:10 PM
Neither of them was on red clay, but Serena has bigger chance of losing against some random journeywoman than Sharapova. Maria's only chance of winning RG is to avoid Serena along the way = major draw collapse in her favor. She may beat Li, Radwanska and whoever else, but she's not going past Serena :shrug:

Agreed, Maria probably has a better chance of winning the tournament because she won't lose early and Serena could with an off day. However, if Serena and Maria play, Serena will win.

stromatolite
May 21st, 2012, 05:49 PM
Serena is a pretty strong favorite, but there are a few others who could win as well, including Maria. She's probably 2nd favorite, but doesn't have that much of an edge on Vika, Sam and Na, all of whom will have to hope they avoid peak Serena. I'd be surprised (but not shocked) if the winner was not one of these 5.

Tenis Srbija
May 21st, 2012, 05:52 PM
SereNa :lol: Sere na in serbian means shits on. So I guess Serena will shit on WTA once again, and win a title without losing a set :cool: unless she meets Petrova on the way :lol:

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 21st, 2012, 06:00 PM
Sharapova is the favourite.

Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 06:06 PM
Sharapova is the favourite.

She won't be, however, when LordRena is at the side of her draw :scared: So that leaves Serena an immediate favorite :worship:

Papi
May 21st, 2012, 06:10 PM
Neither of them was on red clay, but Serena has bigger chance of losing against some random journeywoman than Sharapova. Maria's only chance of winning RG is to avoid Serena along the way = major draw collapse in her favor. She may beat Li, Radwanska and whoever else, but she's not going past Serena :shrug:

This pretty much sums it up.

Cp6uja
May 21st, 2012, 06:41 PM
According to Bet365 site odds are:

Serena 3.5
Azarenka 4.5
Ivanovic 5.1
Sharapova 7.0

EDIT(CORRECTION): it's 51 actually :scratch:

Gdsimmons
May 21st, 2012, 07:19 PM
Obviously Maria. I mean she won the 2 biggest red clay titles leading up to RG. I mean that's the 'real' clay right? She took out the reigning RG champ, the #1 player , Kvitova and Stosur.

What has Serena done ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶w̶i̶n̶n̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶'̶f̶a̶k̶e̶'̶ ̶b̶l̶u̶e̶ ̶c̶l̶a̶y̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶o̶t̶h̶e̶r̶ ̶t̶h̶a̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶u̶m̶p̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶S̶t̶o̶s̶u̶r̶,̶ ̶A̶z̶a̶r̶e̶n̶k̶a̶ ̶a̶n̶d̶ ̶S̶h̶a̶r̶a̶p̶o̶v̶a̶ ̶h̶e̶r̶s̶e̶l̶f̶?̶

doomsday
May 21st, 2012, 07:24 PM
Sharapova is the favourite.

:lol:

Stonerpova
May 21st, 2012, 07:28 PM
Maria's the on-paper favorite, considering she won the two biggest red-clay warm-ups and that Serena hasn't been past the quarters of Roland Garros in nearly a decade. Having said that, we all know what the result will be if Serena plays her best.

dsanders06
May 21st, 2012, 07:39 PM
Azarenka :shrug:

doooma6816
May 21st, 2012, 07:43 PM
Serena obviously. Maria can beat anyone but Serena at RG.

Queenpova
May 21st, 2012, 07:45 PM
Serena by miles.

MrProdigy555
May 21st, 2012, 07:49 PM
It's so strange seeing all the Maria fans saying Serena is the favorite, and then the Serena fans saying Sharapova is the favorite. :lol:

I think Serena is the favorite. Sharapova has been kinda lucky/grinding out wins, whereas Serena was much more impressive in her victories on clay.

Queenpova
May 21st, 2012, 07:53 PM
It's so strange seeing all the Maria fans saying Serena is the favorite, and then the Serena fans saying Sharapova is the favorite. :lol:

I think Serena is the favorite. Sharapova has been kinda lucky/grinding out wins, whereas Serena was much more impressive in her victories on clay.

sharapova's only "lucky" win was the Rome final. The rest were great matches especially the stuttgart goatpova matches.

Mistress of Evil
May 21st, 2012, 07:55 PM
Sharapova is the favourite.

Are you sure? Because if you indeed are I am very concerned about your well-being. I fear you might suffer from dissociative identity disorder. :unsure:

Its not just Serena who is doing the snatching :lol:

Maria finally manages to beat Azarenka after losing 9 humiliating sets against her in a row and immediately starts acting like a HBIC? Love it :hearts:


http://i50.tinypic.com/b544jo.png

A part timer who has won more tournaments since her comeback than our full time #2 player in the world :lol:

sweetadri06
May 21st, 2012, 08:04 PM
Maria? She won the two red clay warm-ups. Serena hasn't been past the QF since 2003. I love Ree and I hope she wins though.

pav
May 21st, 2012, 08:07 PM
Neither of those shits!

Rest Maria!
May 21st, 2012, 08:07 PM
This brings me back to not such a distant past:
Sharapova won Cincinatti! Definite USO favorite!!!!!!

HRHoliviasmith
May 21st, 2012, 08:22 PM
Neither of them was on red clay, but Serena has bigger chance of losing against some random journeywoman than Sharapova. Maria's only chance of winning RG is to avoid Serena along the way = major draw collapse in her favor. She may beat Li, Radwanska and whoever else, but she's not going past Serena :shrug:

and water is wet.

cn ireland
May 21st, 2012, 08:24 PM
Serena!!

Kairi
May 21st, 2012, 08:42 PM
No, Maria will [/counterjinx]

without dropping a set!!!!!ONE!!!1111111ELEVEN1111!!ONE!!!1111

MrProdigy555
May 21st, 2012, 09:15 PM
without dropping a set!!!!!ONE!!!1111111ELEVEN1111!!ONE!!!1111
:lol: LMFAO!!!! I'm done.

HRHoliviasmith
May 21st, 2012, 09:21 PM
without dropping a set!!!!!ONE!!!1111111ELEVEN1111!!ONE!!!1111

:sobbing: :hysteric:

Serenita
May 21st, 2012, 09:39 PM
Pova

BluSthil
May 21st, 2012, 09:59 PM
The prohibitive favorite is Serena. Except for power, Serena & Sharapova are just about equal. No other players have a will to win more than these two. That's what makes them formidable. Serena disrupts Sharapova more than any other player because Serena can power the ball past an opponent without a lot of separation. Shots that most players would get to, if it wasn't Serena blistering the ball past you, are unable to return shots because of Serena's power.

Stonerpova
May 21st, 2012, 10:18 PM
The prohibitive favorite is Serena. Except for power, Serena & Sharapova are just about equal. No other players have a will to win more than these two. That's what makes them formidable. Serena disrupts Sharapova more than any other player because Serena can power the ball past an opponent without a lot of separation. Shots that most players would get to, if it wasn't Serena blistering the ball past you, are unable to return shots because of Serena's power.

It's her serve and movement that set her apart from Maria and everyone else.

UDACHi
May 21st, 2012, 10:20 PM
if they play, maria's fucked. but i think maria has a better shot at taking the title.

danieln1
May 21st, 2012, 10:30 PM
2012: Sharapova losing a poll :eek:

KarlyM*
May 21st, 2012, 10:34 PM
Neither.

Kairi
May 21st, 2012, 10:40 PM
Neither.

well it sure as hell ain't the girl in your avi...

dsanders06
May 21st, 2012, 10:43 PM
Lol at everyone acting like "either Maria or Serena is guaranteed to win!!!!111" and no chance for anyone else. This is the Slam that gave us a final between Li Na and Francesca Schiavone last year, people :spit:

HRHoliviasmith
May 21st, 2012, 10:44 PM
well it sure as hell ain't the girl in your avi...

Let's not lose sight of who the real enemy is. :secret:

I miss Dinara. :sad:

J4m3ka
May 21st, 2012, 10:46 PM
Neither are clear favourites (it is RG after all :lol:), although I'd say Maria starts as the favourite and if Serena makes the second week then she'd be the favourite.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 21st, 2012, 10:53 PM
Serena is undefeated on clay and Maria won the 2 red clay warm-ups.


This draw should be interesting.

LoLex
May 22nd, 2012, 01:38 AM
Serena put pressure on Maria by withdrawing from Rome and letting her win. Now we don't have a clear favourite.

tennisrules
May 22nd, 2012, 01:44 AM
Serena is the favorite until she loses. I honestly don't think Sharapova can beat Serena so if Serena loses before she faces Maria, then Maria is the clear favorite. If Maria is in form, Serena is the only player who can beat her.

But, really, RG is always the toss-up Slam for me. It could unfold that neither Serena nor Sharapova might win, even though they are clearly the two best players in the world right now.

delicatecutter
May 22nd, 2012, 01:52 AM
I wouldn't say either is the favorite. It's red clay, people.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 22nd, 2012, 01:52 AM
Serena is the favorite until she loses. I honestly don't think Sharapova can beat Serena so if Serena loses before she faces Maria, then Maria is the clear favorite. If Maria is in form, Serena is the only player who can beat her.

But, really, RG is always the toss-up Slam for me. It could unfold that neither Serena nor Sharapova might win, even though they are clearly the two best players in the world right now.

This.

tennis-insomniac
May 22nd, 2012, 02:04 AM
Maria is good at clutching moments, which IMO is the worst strategy the player should have (but she hasn't played the same dominant way she's used to, so whatever is good for a fan like me)

Serena in the other hand is great at being dominant from the start, however, she is not so young anymore, so if her body is ready she will be the one to beat for sure (unless she lets her demons loose but from what I see she's gotten a lot calmer now than ever).

For me, Serena is far better favorite to win RG. She is very smart with shots and now is in a very good form. Maria has played many great matches on red clay and she should have great confidence. However, from the final in Rome, it shows that she is not very confident or good tennis-wise when facing players who used to beat her many times. But due to her fighting spirit she overcomes those flaws.

I can't wait to see the draw :)

Stamp Paid
May 22nd, 2012, 02:11 AM
Sharapova, without a doubt. Undefeated on red clay.

ziros
May 22nd, 2012, 02:23 AM
Sharapova. As others said,it is much,much more likely Serena will lose to someone else before the semis or even quarters. I think it will happen again,she's no better than what she has been plenty of other years

brickhousesupporter
May 22nd, 2012, 02:28 AM
Sharapova, without a doubt. Undefeated on red clay.
This.....

tennisphilia
May 22nd, 2012, 02:47 AM
How about Wozniacki?

Marcus1979
May 22nd, 2012, 05:50 AM
Sharpie as she has won the only red clay events left on the tour ;)

Vuvurenka
May 22nd, 2012, 05:59 AM
They're both about equal but Sharapova slightly edges Serena as Maria has won two of the biggest red clay warmup events so is considered as the traditional favorite. But hey, RG is such an unpredictable slam, just look at the list of winners it has produced for the past decade bar Henin :lol: both ReeRee and Maria can lose to some random nobody or a fellow top player, who knows?

vozas
May 22nd, 2012, 08:50 AM
Sharapova, without a doubt. Undefeated on red clay.

Serena remains not only undefeated on red clay (because she withdrew), she actually OWNS all other colors of clay. I can't see anyone but her winning. Maria did a great job winning Rome and Stuttgart but Serena is gonna win the 2012 French Open

BH both wings
May 22nd, 2012, 09:07 AM
In a Sharapova-Williams final, Williams would be the favourite for sure. But that is not necessarily going to happen. Yes, Williams is undefeated on "clay", but Madrid hardly qualifies as clay -- not because of the colour, but because of the completely different conditions and actually hurt real clay courters more than it helps them. Both Sharapova and Williams could be eliminated even in the earlier rounds with an off day. Williams showed a lot of vulnerability against clearly weaker opponents.

I'd say Sharapova has a little bit higher chance of making the final (despite unpredictable conditions) than Williams, but Williams will probably win the final if she makes it.

Maria rocks
May 22nd, 2012, 09:27 AM
this is Maria's title this year:)

Alejandrawrrr
May 22nd, 2012, 09:27 AM
Serena remains not only undefeated on red clay (because she withdrew), she actually OWNS all other colors of clay. I can't see anyone but her winning. Maria did a great job winning Rome and Stuttgart but Serena is gonna win the 2012 French Open

Irrelevant, as RG is played on red clay(real clay,) not green, blue, purple or pink. Taking that into account, Serena hasn't been good enough to win a single title on red clay since 2002, while Maria has just emphatically won her umpteenth title on the surface. Maria is the RG frontrunner without a shadow of a doubt, I'm just happy my fave can be healthy and in the draw :awww:

Coconut91
May 22nd, 2012, 10:46 AM
On paper Serena is the favorite, but she's more prone to an early upset than Maria or Vika. It will depend on the draw. If she goes down before meeting Maria, Maria will be the favorite, with Vika right behind her with a great chance as well. Then Stosur, Na and Kvitova, but they are either unstable or have very negative H2H against the big favorites. It won't be easy for them.

Tenis Srbija
May 22nd, 2012, 01:37 PM
Gotta subscribe to this thread so I can pull it out when some random girl like Kerber wins FO after :rolls:

MrProdigy555
May 22nd, 2012, 01:54 PM
Gotta subscribe to this thread so I can pull it out when some random girl like Kerber wins FO after :rolls:
That's not a random girl, though. A random girl would be someone outside of the top 10, but nice try.

stromatolite
May 22nd, 2012, 01:58 PM
^It's quite possible that someone other than Serena or Maria will win this year, but with most of the top 10 in pretty good form for a change, a really random winner, i.e. someone completely off the radar, would be very surprising.

Shivank17
May 22nd, 2012, 02:00 PM
Serena of course. But really on clay I can expect both of them(especially Maria) to go down to some scrub. :o

Vuvurenka
May 22nd, 2012, 02:01 PM
Maria fans jinxing and Serena fans counter-jinxing :oh:

stromatolite
May 22nd, 2012, 02:05 PM
Maria fans jinxing and Serena fans counter-jinxing :oh:

Aren't they going to be pissed when both the jinxes work? :lol:

MrProdigy555
May 22nd, 2012, 02:12 PM
Maria fans jinxing and Serena fans counter-jinxing :oh:

Aren't they going to be pissed when both the jinxes work? :lol:

Fuck both of you. :lol::hysteric::lol:

stromatolite
May 22nd, 2012, 02:21 PM
Fuck both of you. :lol::hysteric::lol:

:lol: Let's just start with dinner and see how things develop from there ;)

keithb1961
May 22nd, 2012, 02:34 PM
If Serena is healthy, shes always the favorite in my opinion.....

MrProdigy555
May 22nd, 2012, 02:41 PM
:lol: Let's just start with dinner and see how things develop from there ;)
;)

Marcus1979
May 22nd, 2012, 02:42 PM
Aren't they going to be pissed when both the jinxes work? :lol:

I will annoy everyone and vote for Vika or Radwanska then :lol:

stromatolite
May 22nd, 2012, 02:50 PM
I will annoy everyone and vote for Vika or Radwanska then :lol:

I can see all these jinxes getting their polarities crossed or whatever the fuck happened in that ghostbusters movie, so Arantxa Rus will probably win RG this year :lol:

MrProdigy555
May 22nd, 2012, 02:59 PM
I can see all these jinxes getting their polarities crossed or whatever the fuck happened in that ghostbusters movie, so Arantxa Rus will probably win RG this year :lol:
:happy:

SAEKeithSerena
May 22nd, 2012, 07:16 PM
Serena has a commanding record against Maria, including several blowouts. There is no way Sharapova could be the favorite with Serena in the draw. Serena is unbeaten on clay this year and OWNS Maria. It's as simple as that.

Craig.
May 22nd, 2012, 10:11 PM
Lol at everyone acting like "either Maria or Serena is guaranteed to win!!!!111" and no chance for anyone else. This is the Slam that gave us a final between Li Na and Francesca Schiavone last year, people :spit:

This :sobbing:

RenaSlam.
May 22nd, 2012, 11:42 PM
Serena.

Nicolás89
May 22nd, 2012, 11:44 PM
Queenrena of course.

brickhousesupporter
May 23rd, 2012, 12:09 AM
It doesn't matter, as they can only meet in the quarters, and everyone knows about Quarterena. Maira is the favorite.

Haute
May 23rd, 2012, 01:05 AM
Between the two, Serena is a more likely. But I think it will still be someone else who wins. Roland Garros has been hard to predict ever since Henin's peak years.

acetoace
May 23rd, 2012, 01:43 AM
It doesn't matter, as they can only meet in the quarters, and everyone knows about Quarterena. Maira is the favorite.


What u said was what folks were saying between the time Rena won her 1st slam and the second at 2002 FO. Prior to 02 FO, she was losing at QF in the slams but all that changed the moment she said enough was enough and then went on a tear. Folks never learn from this girl's tennis history and I'm getting a feeling this is exactly how Serena is going to surprise many. All that Quarter Rena nonsense folks talk about on TF...... I guess we shall see in about 2wks and change!!!

mac47
May 23rd, 2012, 02:21 AM
Roland Garros is the most random crap slam ever. There are more one-slam and one-surface wonders in its lists of champions than any other slam.

Who should win? Serena. Who will win? Someone random.

LoLex
May 23rd, 2012, 02:33 AM
What u said was what folks were saying between the time Rena won her 1st slam and the second at 2002 FO. Prior to 02 FO, she was losing at QF in the slams but all that changed the moment she said enough was enough and then went on a tear. Folks never learn from this girl's tennis history and I'm getting a feeling this is exactly how Serena is going to surprise many. All that Quarter Rena nonsense folks talk about on TF...... I guess we shall see in about 2wks and change!!!

QuarterRena showed up again in 2007-08 (four QFs in a row).

Stonerpova
May 23rd, 2012, 02:35 AM
What u said was what folks were saying between the time Rena won her 1st slam and the second at 2002 FO. Prior to 02 FO, she was losing at QF in the slams but all that changed the moment she said enough was enough and then went on a tear. Folks never learn from this girl's tennis history and I'm getting a feeling this is exactly how Serena is going to surprise many. All that Quarter Rena nonsense folks talk about on TF...... I guess we shall see in about 2wks and change!!!

I get what you mean, but remember that the last time she got past the quarters 'Friends' was still on the air.


AKA it's been a long ass time.

Marcus1979
May 23rd, 2012, 05:40 AM
She has never been the same since "the hand" when it comes to Paris

MrSerenaWilliams
May 23rd, 2012, 05:54 AM
She has never been the same since "the hand" when it comes to Paris

THIS :hysteric:

6 fucking points away