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abesky
May 20th, 2012, 11:27 PM
... is more embarrassing?

I love Maria, so I'm biased. At least she beat Serena two times. :oh:

~Cherry*Blossom~
May 20th, 2012, 11:28 PM
Vika vs. Serena has the better matches so....

In The Zone
May 20th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Maria vs. Serena. Azarenka has always played Serena tough and has pushed Serena to the brink.

sweetadri06
May 20th, 2012, 11:29 PM
It's not embarrassing. :rolleyes:

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 20th, 2012, 11:30 PM
They are peculiar but neither of them are embarrassing. There is no shame in losing to a much better player.

Craig.
May 20th, 2012, 11:31 PM
Ffs :facepalm:

abesky
May 20th, 2012, 11:32 PM
I accidentally voted for Maria. :facepalm: I was thinking her H2H is more impressive so I voted by accident. :facepalm:

ElusiveChanteuse
May 20th, 2012, 11:38 PM
I accidentally voted for Maria. :facepalm: I was thinking her H2H is more impressive so I voted by accident. :facepalm:
No wonder Masha would win any poll she's involved in.:oh:

Charlatan
May 20th, 2012, 11:47 PM
They are peculiar but neither of them are embarrassing. There is no shame in losing to a much better player.

Agree with the last part, although it's a tad bad for maria to eat like 5 to 6 breadsticks in every beatdown :lol:

I am going to be biased, but i prefer the intensity in maria-serena matches (bar the beatdowns) like the 05 AO, 08 Charleston first two sets and 10 Wimbledon.

Even when maria was getting trashed in the A0 07 Final, u can still sense the intensity as serena was in zone that night

so vika-serena :p

MrSerenaWilliams
May 20th, 2012, 11:52 PM
Maria, only because of the hype generated by those 2 wins.


I don't think many would have expected this after the Wimbly Final.

Nicolás89
May 21st, 2012, 12:13 AM
Serena>>>>>>>>>Fake>Pova

mac47
May 21st, 2012, 12:41 AM
Pova's two wins were bullshit. She was young and too naive to be nervous, so she swung for the fences and hit every line in that Wmbledon final. Serena was surprised and choked. The YEC win has a huge asterisk because of Serena's injury.

Since then, Serena has been teaching Pova to know her true place among the peasantry. The 6 breadsticks have drummed their way into Pova's head.

Pops Maellard
May 21st, 2012, 12:46 AM
Definitely Vika's! If Serena wasn't hobbled in the Miami final it would be 0-8. Maria will always have Wimbledon even if the YEC win is asterisked.

Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 12:52 AM
Pova's two wins were bullshit. She was young and too naive to be nervous, so she swung for the fences and hit every line in that Wmbledon final. Serena was surprised and choked. The YEC win has a huge asterisk because of Serena's injury.

Since then, Serena has been teaching Pova to know her true place among the peasantry. The 6 breadsticks have drummed their way into Pova's head.

and i like how, among 20 other new threads per day on TF, you only choose to come to almost every maria related thread...probably more often than you go to your fav related thread

some of you petra stans are really special!

Kworb
May 21st, 2012, 12:53 AM
Vika vs Serena. She's played 5% and 3% Serena on multiple occasions and still only managed one win. :haha:

Brad[le]y.
May 21st, 2012, 12:59 AM
Vika vs Serena. She's played 5% and 3% Serena on multiple occasions and still only managed one win. :haha:

don't you think you should color-code the saviours? people might get confused :shrug:

duhcity
May 21st, 2012, 01:03 AM
Definitely Vika's! If Serena wasn't hobbled in the Miami final it would be 0-8. Maria will always have Wimbledon even if the YEC win is asterisked.

Well quoting Maria Sharapova, If you're injured you shouldn't play.

:wavey:

NashaMasha
May 21st, 2012, 01:10 AM
If Serena new that Vika was going to become №1 their H2h would have been 8 -0 and 16-0 in sets .... Serena just didn't care about this girl till 2011-2012

Irute
May 21st, 2012, 01:11 AM
They are different. One could argue that Vika is on a growth trajectory, so her past matches are different from matches today and in the future. Maria is a big name for a while, but Serena is in her head so unless she deals with her demons she can continue to be embarrassed (or not).

Craig.
May 21st, 2012, 01:13 AM
Vika vs Serena. She's played 5% and 3% Serena on multiple occasions and still only managed one win. :haha:

Cibulkova 60 60 :hysteric:

Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 01:16 AM
Kworb's sig: Cibulkova 6-0 6-0 :spit: :tape: :happy:

Brad[le]y.
May 21st, 2012, 01:17 AM
you people are just noticing that? :rolls:

Kworb
May 21st, 2012, 01:19 AM
don't you think you should color-code the saviours? people might get confused :shrug:
Nah they're both equally disgusting, it doesn't matter if the valiant warrior struck down the left or the right head of the evil ogre.

Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 01:22 AM
Nah they're both equally disgusting, it doesn't matter if the valiant warrior struck down the left or the right head of the evil ogre.

DEAD :haha:

slamchamp
May 21st, 2012, 01:39 AM
Pova's two wins were bullshit. She was young and too naive to be nervous, so she swung for the fences and hit every line in that Wmbledon final. Serena was surprised and choked. The YEC win has a huge asterisk because of Serena's injury.

Since then, Serena has been teaching Pova to know her true place among the peasantry. The 6 breadsticks have drummed their way into Pova's head.

Where did all these annoying Petra fans came from?:unsure: It's like they all came at the same time:o

Kairi
May 21st, 2012, 01:44 AM
Agree with the last part, although it's a tad bad for maria to eat like 5 to 6 breadsticks in every beatdown :lol:

I am going to be biased, but i prefer the intensity in maria-serena matches (bar the beatdowns) like the 05 AO, 08 Charleston first two sets and 10 Wimbledon.

Even when maria was getting trashed in the A0 07 Final, u can still sense the intensity as serena was in zone that night

so vika-serena :p

that was probably Maria clenching and trying not to shit her panties...

Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 01:49 AM
that was probably Maria clenching and trying not to shit her panties...

probably that and when she smashed the ball to serena's body :p u know it

Nicolás89
May 21st, 2012, 01:56 AM
probably that and when she smashed the ball to serena's body :p u know it

OMG yes & then we see on the giant screen Serena saying "BITCH" & all the crowd just laughing at the awkwardness!!! Epic WTA. :hysteric:

Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 02:00 AM
OMG yes & then we see on the giant screen Serena saying "BITCH" & all the crowd just laughing at the awkwardness!!! Epic WTA. :hysteric:

see? vika-sarin match ups would NEVER :oh:

Brad[le]y.
May 21st, 2012, 02:02 AM
Nah they're both equally disgusting, it doesn't matter if the valiant warrior struck down the left or the right head of the evil ogre.

Sharapova took down both in one tournament :worship:

Petkorazzi took down one head twice in back-to-back weeks :rolls:

Christinawww
May 21st, 2012, 06:29 AM
both or none. Can't really decide. 5 of Vika's loses to Serena has been in Grand Slams, playing against Serena in a Grand Slam is always very difficult. So 2 loses outside of Grand Slams.

Maria has 5 loses outside of Grand Slams, but that Wimbledon win outweights a lot.

What I find more interesting is that Masha and Serena has only played each other 10 times, and Vika and Serena already 8 times, but Masha's been on tour many years before Vika (well being relavant).

Anyway, my vote goes to Vika. Get it together girl.

SELVEN
May 21st, 2012, 06:58 AM
Serena is so great :awww:

StoneRose
May 21st, 2012, 08:42 AM
Maria-Serena hands down. Vika has reached near peak only this year,Maria has been there for quite some time. Vika-Serena has been better to watch too most of the time.

bandabou
May 21st, 2012, 09:35 AM
Serena....GOAT! :worship:

marineblue
May 21st, 2012, 09:50 AM
Kworb's sig: Cibulkova 6-0 6-0 :spit: :tape: :happy:

:lol:

doomsday
May 21st, 2012, 10:00 AM
I don't find that h2h embarrassing at all. Serena is a 13 major winner that's really impressive beside like someone pointed out Serena lead 3-1 at majors (should've been 2-2 but it's ok now :lol:)
I could easily say that Serena should be ashamed to have such a tight h2h against Stosur and Jankovic (1 major for the two) while Maria lead 17-2 or sth.

bandabou
May 21st, 2012, 11:05 AM
I don't find that h2h embarrassing at all. Serena is a 13 major winner that's really impressive beside like someone pointed out Serena lead 3-1 at majors (should've been 2-2 but it's ok now :lol:)
I could easily say that Serena should be ashamed to have such a tight h2h against Stosur and Jankovic (1 major for the two) while Maria lead 17-2 or sth.

Now what fun is there in beating the weaklings?! You gotta be the big ladies...the ones that define your legacy. Serena beating Jankovic and Stosur..nice. Serena owning the likes of Sharapova and Davenport?! Now THAT's something to talk about.

doomsday
May 21st, 2012, 11:19 AM
Now what fun is there in beating the weaklings?! You gotta be the big ladies...the ones that define your legacy. Serena beating Jankovic and Stosur..nice. Serena owning the likes of Sharapova and Davenport?! Now THAT's something to talk about.

There is even less fun losing to them at majors :lol: beside titles define your legacy not one negative H2H, even less against the best active player.

J4m3ka
May 21st, 2012, 11:31 AM
On paper both look pretty embarrassing. 2 of their 3 wins came when Serena could barely move as well :o

When you think about it though, it's not THAT bad. Serena is just by far the more talented player :shrug:

Having said that, now is the perfect opportunity for both to try and get some wins. If they can't beat a 30+ Serena when they're in their prime age it doesn't look good.

bandabou
May 21st, 2012, 11:37 AM
It work both ways it's still a shame to have a losing record against scrubs at majors beside titles define your legacy not one negative H2H, even less against the best active player.

You sure you wanna talk about losing to scrubs at majors?! Oudin, Radwanska, Kirilenko..I think Stosur and Janko are much better players than the aforementioned trio.

Really, just leave it alone. as you say Serena is the better player, so no need to sweat it.

doomsday
May 21st, 2012, 11:46 AM
Really, just leave it alone. as you say Serena is the better player, so no need to sweat it.

I said this in my very firs post you didn't accept that I made a lil comparison about Serena and her H2H against lesser players :shrug:

bandabou
May 21st, 2012, 11:53 AM
I said this in my very firs post you didn't accept that I made a lil comparison about Serena and her H2H against lesser players :shrug:

The comparison was irrelevant, but if it helps you....;)

vozas
May 21st, 2012, 11:54 AM
Maria beat Serena in a Wimbledon final. Nuff said.

doomsday
May 21st, 2012, 11:58 AM
Maria beat Serena in a Wimbledon final. Nuff said.

I should've just said this :lol:

StoneRose
May 21st, 2012, 12:01 PM
On paper both look pretty embarrassing. 2 of their 3 wins came when Serena could barely move as well :o

When you think about it though, it's not THAT bad. Serena is just by far the more talented player :shrug:

Having said that, now is the perfect opportunity for both to try and get some wins. If they can't beat a 30+ Serena when they're in their prime age it doesn't look good.You're right about that and i think Vika will get a win or 2 from here against her. Maria seems to have given up on this H2H.

Queenpova
May 21st, 2012, 12:06 PM
Vika

Maria will always have that legendary wimbledon final, you mad?

vozas
May 21st, 2012, 12:12 PM
Vika

Maria will always have that legendary wimbledon final, you mad?

They so mad. 17pova's maiden slam at Wimbledon on their mind, every day.

Joelina
May 21st, 2012, 12:30 PM
Maria has beat Serena in two big finals, while Serena has beat her only one important AO F, Victoria beat Serena only in Miami final, so i find Maria´s win more impressive and not so embarrassing

Stamp Paid
May 21st, 2012, 12:50 PM
They so mad. 17pova's maiden slam at Wimbledon on their mind, every day.Serena has won 7 slams since then. We have so many more awesome memories since then. Its not on our minds anymore. :lol:
But keep thinking that if it makes you feel better.

Queenpova
May 21st, 2012, 01:07 PM
They so mad. 17pova's maiden slam at Wimbledon on their mind, every day.

:hearts:

vozas
May 21st, 2012, 01:16 PM
Serena has won 7 slams since then. We have so many more awesome memories since then. Its not on our minds anymore. :lol:
But keep thinking that if it makes you feel better.

I was obviously not talking about the Renatards' mind. Just the rest of the WTA :hug: Stosur is still slamless, so the only people to defeat The Lord in a slam final are big sis Vinas and Legendpova :worship::worship:

ElusiveChanteuse
May 21st, 2012, 01:22 PM
Another poll involving Masha. Masha FTW!:rocker2:

J4m3ka
May 21st, 2012, 01:28 PM
Vika

Maria will always have that legendary wimbledon final, you mad?

It's ok. Big sis' Vee put peasantPova in her rightful place the year after :hearts:

Queenpova
May 21st, 2012, 01:35 PM
It's ok. Big sis' Vee put peasantPova in her rightful place the year after :hearts:

And maria sent her back to compton 4 days ago. PRESSED :hearts:

Stamp Paid
May 21st, 2012, 01:49 PM
I was obviously not talking about the Renatards' mind. Just the rest of the WTA :hug: Stosur is still slamless, so the only people to defeat The Lord in a slam final are big sis Vinas and Legendpova :worship::worship:Yes, bitch. Continue paying homage. I live. :lol:

Queenpova
May 21st, 2012, 01:52 PM
Yes, bitch. Continue paying homage. I live. :lol:

We masha fans admit serena is the best player, I dont see why there's so much hate between both fan bases when they dont even dislike eachother :confused:

Stamp Paid
May 21st, 2012, 01:54 PM
We masha fans admit serena is the best player, I dont see why there's so much hate between both fan bases when they dont even dislike eachother :confused:Save it. Most of the shit is stirred up by you. :lol:

vozas
May 21st, 2012, 02:00 PM
I've always liked Serena. I'm pretty used to her beating my faves for 13 years now (the 99 USO final against Legend was my deflowering :sobbing:). But she's one of those players which you just can't hate given how overwhelmingly superior she's always been to the rest of the tour. I find it kinda boring to root for someone who can look invincible at times as I love me some drama, and that's why I don't really pull for her or have her in my sig.

BUT I do LOVE stirring shit with her fans. There, I admit it :inlove:

Queenpova
May 21st, 2012, 02:07 PM
I've always liked Serena. I'm pretty used to her beating my faves for 13 years now (the 99 USO final against Legend was my deflowering :sobbing:). But she's one of those players which you just can't hate given how overwhelmingly superior she's always been to the rest of the tour. I find it kinda boring to root for someone who can look invincible at times as I love me some drama, and that's why I don't really pull for her or have her in my sig.

BUT I do LOVE stirring shit with her fans. There, I admit it :inlove:

This x 10000000000000. I almost had a breakdown that night. but the SF was :drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool::drool:: drool::drool::drool:

Stamp Paid
May 21st, 2012, 02:09 PM
I've always liked Serena. I'm pretty used to her beating my faves for 13 years now (the 99 USO final against Legend was my deflowering :sobbing:). But she's one of those players which you just can't hate given how overwhelmingly superior she's always been to the rest of the tour. I find it kinda boring to root for someone who can look invincible at times as I love me some drama, and that's why I don't really pull for her or have her in my sig.

BUT I do LOVE stirring shit with her fans. There, I admit it :inlove:Hingis fans. That explains everything.

Anyway, how about we both keep it cute until after the French Open? You stop taking shots at Lordrena, and I will stop taking shots at Pova.

Besides, I am tired of apologizing/feeling guilty to Craig. :hysteric:

Vikapower
May 21st, 2012, 02:10 PM
1) On paper both look pretty embarrassing. 2 of their 3 wins came when Serena could barely move as well :o

2) Serena propaganda + :shrug:

3) If they can't beat a 30+ Serena when they're in their prime age it doesn't look good.

On the first : Victoria has nothing to ashamed of against Serena. Serena was profiting to take a lead on Victoria when she was young and still sorting herself up -- Victoria also faced Serena more than any active player in majors, 5 instead of WTA tour events where she'd have defeated Serena these 5 times. Victoria was not yet a Goat in majors yet.

On the second : It's weird you say such a statement and put a "shrug" emoticon after it. You know you're wrong but just trolling the board with your pro-Rena propaganda like as if you'll have anybody believe Serena is more talented than these 2. You're showing doubts on your own statement because you know pretty well it's nonsense to say that.

Facts says everything Serena does on a tennis court is hurtful to the eye. Her childish footwork, overall balance, her glaring lack of fluidity and abusive brutality on the ball just to get it by passed a net, her one-dimensional on-court tactics and strategies that solely turns around ROS/serve, her inabilities to rally or keep an exchange effectively without being consistently exposed like a junior etc. etc. etc. [...] Serena has nothing to be stated as the most talented than at least 70-80% of the top 100.

On the third : I can only talk for Victoria since Maria she has a huge mental block. Victoria needs to the surface to play for her. She's not quite a good clay court player and Madrid's super-fast grass where Rena can play comfy 2-3 shots/first strike tennis is not in Victoria's advantage. On medium/medium slow HC's for example Victoria would have no real problems dealing with her case in 2012. Slow clay would work well too only Victoria's movement and all is just not effective on that surface.

vozas
May 21st, 2012, 02:31 PM
Facts says everything Serena does on a tennis court is hurtful to the eye. Her childish footwork, overall balance, her glaring lack of fluidity and abusive brutality on the ball just to get it by passed a net, her one-dimensional on-court tactics and strategies that solely turns around ROS/serve, her inabilities to rally or keep an exchange effectively without being consistently exposed like a junior etc. etc. etc. [...] Serena has nothing to be stated as the most talented than at least 70-80% of the top 100.

:sobbing::sobbing::sobbing: Vika power is a TF Legend already :worship:

Say what you want about Serena, but her balance on every shot (including the serve) is unmatchable. She generates 50% of the pace of her shots just from being that well positioned. It's always been one of the most admirable aspects of her game tbh.

slydevil6142
May 21st, 2012, 02:32 PM
On the first : Victoria has nothing to ashamed of against Serena. Serena was profiting to take a lead on Victoria when she was young and still sorting herself up -- Victoria also faced Serena more than any active player in majors, 5 instead of WTA tour events where she'd have defeated Serena these 5 times. Victoria was not yet a Goat in majors yet.

On the second : It's weird you say such a statement and put a "shrug" emoticon after it. You know you're wrong but just trolling the board with your pro-Rena propaganda like as if you'll have anybody believe Serena is more talented than these 2. You're showing doubts on your own statement because you know pretty well it's nonsense to say that.

Facts says everything Serena does on a tennis court is hurtful to the eye. Her childish footwork, overall balance, her glaring lack of fluidity and abusive brutality on the ball just to get it by passed a net, her one-dimensional on-court tactics and strategies that solely turns around ROS/serve, her inabilities to rally or keep an exchange effectively without being consistently exposed like a junior etc. etc. etc. [...] Serena has nothing to be stated as the most talented than at least 70-80% of the top 100.

On the third : I can only talk for Victoria since Maria she has a huge mental block. Victoria needs to the surface to play for her. She's not quite a good clay court player and Madrid's super-fast grass where Rena can play comfy 2-3 shots/first strike tennis is not in Victoria's advantage. On medium/medium slow HC's for example Victoria would have no real problems dealing with her case in 2012. Slow clay would work well too only Victoria's movement and all is just not effective on that surface.

:lol: Will your nonsense never cease??

Ive determined you sit at your desk and write the most ridiculous statements in an effort to bait in your prey. Neither of the girls should be embarassed by their H2H as Serena is clearly a better player than both.

First: You can say "she was young and still sorting herself up", but the best players dont need so long to sort things out. Serena didnt... Maria didnt
Second: If you think the thread is trolling why come in at all??
Third: Vika has lost to Serena at this point on almost ALL court speeds... The "facts" as you stated is that Vika is a good player but nowhere in Serenas league even at post 30.....

Could you imagine Serena getting owned like this when she came on tour by the likes of Graf... NEVER! and that folks is the difference..... :lol:

rjd1111
May 21st, 2012, 03:16 PM
They are different. One could argue that Vika is on a growth trajectory, so her past matches are different from matches today and in the future. Maria is a big name for a while, but Serena is in her head so unless she deals with her demons she can continue to be embarrassed (or not).

Serena is not in her head

She is beatin that ass

rjd1111
May 21st, 2012, 03:22 PM
OMG yes & then we see on the giant screen Serena saying "BITCH" & all the crowd just laughing at the awkwardness!!! Epic WTA. :hysteric:

Serena did not say " bitch ".

She said " You'll pay for that "

And Maria did...... time and time again

MrSerenaWilliams
May 21st, 2012, 03:26 PM
Serena did not say " bitch ".

She said " You'll pay for that "

And Maria did...... time and time again
THANK YOU! :hysteric:

rjd1111
May 21st, 2012, 03:35 PM
:lol: Will your nonsense never cease??

Ive determined you sit at your desk and write the most ridiculous statements in an effort to bait in your prey. Neither of the girls should be embarassed by their H2H as Serena is clearly a better player than both.

First: You can say "she was young and still sorting herself up", but the best players dont need so long to sort things out. Serena didnt... Maria didnt
Second: If you think the thread is trolling why come in at all??
Third: Vika has lost to Serena at this point on almost ALL court speeds... The "facts" as you stated is that Vika is a good player but nowhere in Serenas league even at post 30.....

Could you imagine Serena getting owned like this when she came on tour by the likes of Graf... NEVER! and that folks is the difference..... :lol:


The closest Serena was to being " owned " was by Cappy

in 2000 and 2001( 4 wins ). Then Cappy made the mistake of shooting

her mouth off in an interview that Serena was scared of her.

Serena then proceded to beat her 8 times in a row.

And that ended that.

donellcarey
May 21st, 2012, 03:38 PM
I think it's Maria, cuz she got less games in those losses than Vika...

Roookie
May 21st, 2012, 03:39 PM
Vika's. At least Serena put an extra effort against Maria. While against Vika she plays her normally.

Diesel
May 21st, 2012, 03:43 PM
Serena did not say " bitch ".

She said " You'll pay for that "

And Maria did...... time and time again

Thank you! Serena didn't say bitch. Bitch is simple and straight foreword, Serena's mouth was moving for longer and she simply told Maria the future - she paid and continues to do so.

Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 04:05 PM
Serena did not say " bitch ".

She said " You'll pay for that "

And Maria did...... time and time again

:crying2: :rolls:

MrProdigy555
May 21st, 2012, 04:16 PM
I say the Vika one is more embarrassing, only because I don't think Serena is "in her head," so these defeats are simply her being outplayed. Also, Vika has been playing the best tennis of her life, and when she last met Serena she said "I was young, so this match is going to be different," hinting at the fact that she was going to give Serena a challenge and/or defeat Serena, yet her ass got the worst beatdown between the two....soooo...that's embarrassing.

Saying that, Serena is 30. And she still whoops these girls (number 1 and 2 players in the world). It's embarrassing for them, but I enjoy the ass whoopings.

DOUBLEFIST
May 21st, 2012, 04:45 PM
Neither one's embarrassing. Serena's an all time great. :shrug: That's what the head to heads SHOULD be.

DOUBLEFIST
May 21st, 2012, 04:51 PM
Say what you want about Serena, but her balance on every shot (including the serve) is unmatchable. She generates 50% of the pace of her shots just from being that well positioned. It's always been one of the most admirable aspects of her game tbh.
So true.

These days, I pretty much just scroll past Vika Power's post.

You could boil them all down to, "it's not fair Serena can hit the ball past her opponents." :spit:

Craig.
May 21st, 2012, 10:35 PM
Hingis fans. That explains everything.

Anyway, how about we both keep it cute until after the French Open? You stop taking shots at Lordrena, and I will stop taking shots at Pova.

Besides, I am tired of apologizing/feeling guilty to Craig. :hysteric:

:crying2: We're cool bb. No worries :kiss:

Tennis_News
May 22nd, 2012, 12:10 AM
VIka won her only match when Serena was hurt and Maria beat Serena in a GS final.

Stonerpova
May 22nd, 2012, 01:21 AM
VIka won her only match when Serena was hurt and Maria beat Serena in a GS final.

This.

pov
May 22nd, 2012, 03:56 AM
Embarrassing? To have a losing H2H against S.Williams? Really? And of course you just happened to leave a "not embarrassing at all" option out of the poll.

Charlatan
May 22nd, 2012, 04:23 AM
Embarrassing? To have a losing H2H against S.Williams? Really? And of course you just happened to leave a "not embarrassing at all" option out of the poll.

The OP is just an annoying little trollish noob mashabator...Mauresmo, Davenport and Clijsters should all be embarrassed too cause they also have the losing H2H against serena :rolleyes:

bandabou
May 22nd, 2012, 06:39 AM
It ain't emberassing...it's what Serena does to everybody. Serena's simply that great.

Marcus1979
May 22nd, 2012, 08:06 AM
haven't most of the sharapova losses occurred when she was a top 5 player, while most Vika losses occurred as a developing player.

the 2007 OZ Open match Sharpie was #2 at the time.

rjd1111
Jun 6th, 2012, 03:40 AM
haven't most of the sharapova losses occurred when she was a top 5 player, while most Vika losses occurred as a developing player.

the 2007 OZ Open match Sharpie was #2 at the time.

Actually Maria was # 1.

She had accumilated enough points to be # 1 in her previous match

She was just waiting for Monday Morning

brickhousesupporter
Aug 4th, 2012, 04:46 PM
bump.....have we figured this conundrum out yet?

MrProdigy555
Aug 5th, 2012, 01:16 AM
bump.....have we figured this conundrum out yet?
Lmao

Stamp Paid
Aug 5th, 2012, 01:32 AM
Vika competes better against Serena.

bandabou
Aug 5th, 2012, 09:39 AM
:lol: Ai mamai.

Miss Atomic Bomb
Apr 3rd, 2013, 10:21 AM
One is a double pigeon, the other is not.

AnnieIWillKnow
Apr 3rd, 2013, 10:41 AM
One is a double pigeon, the other is not.

Give it time. One loss, Serena can forgive, now Vika has her second victory over Serena she shall not let it pass so easily.

spartanfan
Apr 3rd, 2013, 02:48 PM
Maria has beat Serena in two big finals, while Serena has beat her only one important AO F, Victoria beat Serena only in Miami final, so i find Maria´s win more impressive and not so embarrassing
Do you still feel the same way now after the Olympics and this past weekends Miami final?

Povin
Apr 3rd, 2013, 02:53 PM
Maria vs Serena or Vika vs Serena
AKA Vika fans/Masha haters VS Masha fans/ Vika haters

crescentmoon
Apr 3rd, 2013, 02:56 PM
It just shows Vika is a more complete player than Sharapova and competes better against Serena.

iWill
Apr 3rd, 2013, 02:56 PM
Neither should be totally ashamed, losing to the Lord is almost a forgone conclusion these days. Serena only has a losing H2H record to very few players. She doesn't even have a losing record to her sister whom she's played more times than anyone IIRC. Vika should be happy she got a legit win over Serena in Doha but she will likely trade in that win after Serena gets a hold of her next time they play. :bounce:

CanIGetAWhat
May 20th, 2013, 06:01 PM
Exactly one year later when this thread was created.

The H2H went from:

Maria - Serena H2H (2-8)
Vika - Serena H2H (1-7)

to

Maria - Serena H2H (2-13)
Vika - Serena H2H (2-12)

Not much has changed.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lxcs22SHs51r9vu41o1_400.gif

shoryuken
May 20th, 2013, 06:04 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ap9CD_hrcWk/UOnKGg7rj2I/AAAAAAAAAUs/uhu__ZLwtzk/s450/SerenaMadrid.gif

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leftbrian
May 20th, 2013, 06:16 PM
Neither record is embarrassing. Painful is probably a better word. Sharapova's losing record is harder to stomach because it covers a 9-year-period. I am surprised how many times Azarenka has played Serena in the past 4 years.

garwe
May 20th, 2013, 06:29 PM
Neither record is embarrassing. Painful is probably a better word. Sharapova's losing record is harder to stomach because it covers a 9-year-period. I am surprised how many times Azarenka has played Serena in the past 4 years.

Why suprised? I only followed it 1,5 years, but it is very easy to count the number of losses during that time they had to other players. They end up playing each other at the end of the tournaments. ( Except a few losses and some retirements ).

Povin
May 20th, 2013, 06:47 PM
Wow.. It's been one year since the thread was created, and since then Serena have met Maraza 11 times, and it's 10-1 in the matches :scared: :scared: :scared:

bandabou
May 20th, 2013, 06:53 PM
not much if anything has changed...:lol:

Little Dreamer
May 20th, 2013, 06:57 PM
I mean Vika snuck in a win but the results just accumulated to more losses for Vika and Pova :lol:

I accidentally voted Pova, but I think Vika's losses are more embarrasing. Well that's not the word I'd use, I would say "disappointing". Even playing her best tennis couldn't really do much. She's made more inroads than Sharapova to beating Serena consistently but she still only has 1 win. If Sharapova had that many chances to get that close to winning I doubt she'd let it slip by her so many times

bandabou
May 20th, 2013, 07:01 PM
I mean Vika snuck in a win but the results just accumulated to more losses for Vika and Pova :lol:

I accidentally voted Pova, but I think Vika's losses are more embarrasing. Well that's not the word I'd use, I would say "disappointing". Even playing her best tennis couldn't really do much. She's made more inroads than Sharapova to beating Serena consistently but she still only has 1 win. If Sharapova had that many chances to get that close to winning I doubt she'd let it slip by her so many times

Oh boy...:facepalm:

Direwolf
May 20th, 2013, 07:02 PM
IIRC...
Maria beat Serena in Wimbledon Final and YEC Final...
Aza beat Serena in Miami Final and Doha Final...

Mustve hurt.

Little Dreamer
May 20th, 2013, 07:03 PM
Oh boy...:facepalm:

You really think that if Maria was up 5-3 in the third at the US Open that she would let Serena back in the match? I think she'd want to take it because she is just so hungry for that 1 win :lol:

spartanfan
May 20th, 2013, 07:07 PM
These h2hs really show how comfortable Serena is playing against these two players. I think if Azarenka had a better serve she would be able to compete w Serena even more. She plays Serena better than Maria does, but that's not saying too much.


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Olórin
May 20th, 2013, 07:16 PM
IIRC...
Maria beat Serena in Wimbledon Final and YEC Final...
Aza beat Serena in Miami Final and Doha Final...

Mustve hurt.

Yes, it's hurt them both, especially Maria. In return for their transient moments of glory they've traded an eternity of humbling lashings before the tennis world. Serena has never dominated two players so completely at the same time.

She has and will win a large swathe of her titles thanks to her dominance over those two. It's an ideal situation, no Henins, Capriatis - just a Mauresmo and Davenport in the way.

LightWarrior
May 20th, 2013, 07:31 PM
Pova's more embarassing just because she went from 2/1 (almost 3/1) to 2/13 nice years later.

new-york
May 20th, 2013, 07:35 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ap9CD_hrcWk/UOnKGg7rj2I/AAAAAAAAAUs/uhu__ZLwtzk/s450/SerenaMadrid.gif

http://24.media.tumblr.com/5a7a73a391c3f7ee21ecd9701c0805e5/tumblr_mmp2w9XiKD1s5lshxo2_r1_250.gif

:lol:

TrollPova
May 20th, 2013, 07:56 PM
Obviously Maria vs. Serena :sobbing:

TennisPhan
May 20th, 2013, 07:57 PM
Yes, it's hurt them both, especially Maria. In return for their transient moments of glory they've traded an eternity of humbling lashings before the tennis world. Serena has never dominated two players so completely at the same time.

She has and will win a large swathe of her titles thanks to her dominance over those two. It's an ideal situation, no Henins, Capriatis - just a Mauresmo and Davenport in the way.

lol

bandabou
May 20th, 2013, 08:42 PM
You really think that if Maria was up 5-3 in the third at the US Open that she would let Serena back in the match? I think she'd want to take it because she is just so hungry for that 1 win :lol:

'05 oz open...:secret:

StoneRose
May 20th, 2013, 08:59 PM
You really think that if Maria was up 5-3 in the third at the US Open that she would let Serena back in the match? I think she'd want to take it because she is just so hungry for that 1 win :lol:Precisely the reason she would let Serena back in. At such moments Vika's a tougher player than Pova and she couldn't do it. Just think back Miami 2013 if you have doubts about these sort of things.

CanIGetAWhat
May 15th, 2014, 05:01 PM
... is more embarrassing?

I love Maria, so I'm biased. At least she beat Serena two times. :oh:

This was a thread to embarrass Vika, but oh how the tables have turned. Nearly two years later when the thread was created...

Serena v. Maria 16-2
Serena v. Vika 15-3

http://media.giphy.com/media/r5TDmvryaYagU/giphy.gif

Standard
May 15th, 2014, 05:25 PM
This was a thread to embarrass Vika, but oh how the tables have turned. Nearly two years later when the thread was created...

Serena v. Maria 16-2
Serena v. Vika 14-3

http://media.giphy.com/media/r5TDmvryaYagU/giphy.gif

:hug:

doomsday
May 15th, 2014, 05:59 PM
This was a thread to embarrass Vika, but oh how the tables have turned. Nearly two years later when the thread was created...

Serena v. Maria 16-2
Serena v. Vika 14-3

http://media.giphy.com/media/r5TDmvryaYagU/giphy.gif

I'd still take Maria's wins though :oh:

young_gunner913
May 15th, 2014, 06:02 PM
I'd still take Maria's wins though :oh:

And her decade of abuse to follow. :oh:

jay holter
May 15th, 2014, 06:03 PM
Interesting that all of their wins over Serena came in the Final of a tournament.

CristianB8
May 15th, 2014, 06:04 PM
Well Serena is Serena (in her own league right now), so isn't so embarrassing to be honest, just a little to harsh ...

Little Dreamer
May 15th, 2014, 06:05 PM
I remember when the rivalry was 2-8. Such a cute number, just BARELY a pigeon. 2-16 :sobbing:

Although Maria's 2 wins > Vika's 3 wins :tears:

doomsday
May 15th, 2014, 06:22 PM
And her decade of abuse to follow. :oh:

I only remember OZ 07, OG 2012 anf FO 2013. To a lesser extent, Miami 2013.

versa90
May 15th, 2014, 06:55 PM
Marie H2H 2/16
Vika H2H 3/15

GameSetJJ
May 15th, 2014, 07:01 PM
Maria has the ultimate victory over Serena - a Wimbly final.

Although Maria has been paying for it since then :lol:

bandabou
May 15th, 2014, 07:18 PM
And now that Masha's h2h Is the emberassing one..now tye wins are bigger?!:confused:

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TrollPova
May 15th, 2014, 07:21 PM
And now that Masha's h2h Is the emberassing one..now tye wins are bigger?!:confused:

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Yes, are you disputing that Maria's Wimbledon/YEC victories over Serena are less significant than Vika's Ciny/Doha wins, and she should envy the wins that Vika's had in recent years? :lol:.

I_CLAUDIA_1961
May 15th, 2014, 07:44 PM
For THIS Serena fan, neither H2H has mattered for a few years because there was never a rivalry between Maria/Serena, and there isn't going to be one between Vika/Serena more than likely as Serena will be retiring sooner rather than later. Plus you never know how either of the 3 ladies health will hold up the next 2-3 years which may mean they don't play each other many more times. Yes, I want Serena to beat Maria/Vika, but also anybody else she plays if she can. On Serena's bucket list are Singles slams 18 & 19 which will put her past Chris/Martina and get her TO and past the 60 WTA title mark. It's all about the singles slams/WTA titles she can win. It's about her tennis legacy for ME.

TheDevMiester
May 15th, 2014, 07:54 PM
Wow. The H2H were so low at that time.

Sammo
May 15th, 2014, 08:00 PM
I'd still have Maria's, beating Serena on the Wimbledon and YEC finals is much better than Vika's 3 victories over her.

shoryuken
May 15th, 2014, 08:07 PM
Wow the wins doubled in 2 years from 8-2 to 16-2?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/9d27835408939d55d7d13b7423f20b60/tumblr_n345834DRH1s5lshxo1_500.gif

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MB.
May 15th, 2014, 08:12 PM
Vika, when she's healthy and in match condition, I have belief in that she can hang with Serena and maybe take her out in a tough battle.

Masha, not so much.

CanIGetAWhat
May 15th, 2014, 08:15 PM
Wow the wins doubled in 2 years from 8-2 to 16-2?

http://24.media.tumblr.com/9d27835408939d55d7d13b7423f20b60/tumblr_n345834DRH1s5lshxo1_500.gif

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XNR5oRs1ZJo/UzR9PLTBjII/AAAAAAAAB4w/3zhUyC8QfH4/s337/NClaugh.gif

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serena_the_queen
May 16th, 2014, 12:38 AM
http://www.quickmeme.com/img/70/7051c870d2c6894e507284f1ff4117ae12a1dd69f6b1861103 4c42205ca310f5.jpg

http://www.youwinoryoudierp.com/uploads/1/3/6/1/13615742/9887153_orig.gif

Serena to Maria since '04

aloirt
May 16th, 2014, 12:59 AM
Maria has the ultimate victory over Serena - a Wimbly final.

Although Maria has been paying for it since then :lol:
She should have lost that Wimbledon final, she could have possibly gotten at least 3 more if she had. :sad::sad::sad:

Cosmic Voices
May 16th, 2014, 01:01 AM
https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XNR5oRs1ZJo/UzR9PLTBjII/AAAAAAAAB4w/3zhUyC8QfH4/s337/NClaugh.gif

As Naomi cackles about Rena's bff Kimye landing a Vogue cover

Ihiq1DxGqoQ

VS Fan
May 16th, 2014, 01:41 AM
I thought Vika had TWO wins over Serena, the other being in Cincinati, 2012.

PoliCappuccino
May 16th, 2014, 02:41 AM
Maria's weave is ruthlessly snatched and forcefully replanted time and time again, it's a mess. Compared to Vika, Maria's is all like...

http://gifsforum.com/gif_generator/gif_created/6879e6cb171f31a7b73b3777e5330836.gif?1400206490614

SocaBrainwash
May 16th, 2014, 02:42 AM
I'd rather have Vika's by far.

SocaBrainwash
May 16th, 2014, 02:57 AM
Maria's weave is ruthlessly snatched and forcefully replanted time and time again, it's a mess. Compared to Vika, Maria's is all like...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-f2MorPoAhns/UbTdB8dsZBI/AAAAAAAABKU/9pDMUYR3MX4/s250/15ewqkm.gif


;)

PoliCappuccino
May 16th, 2014, 02:59 AM
;)

Perfect. :hysteric:

bandabou
May 16th, 2014, 05:50 AM
Yes, are you disputing that Maria's Wimbledon/YEC victories over Serena are less significant than Vika's Ciny/Doha wins, and she should envy the wins that Vika's had in recent years? :lol:.

But that WASN'T the question...or at least not the intended question when the OP made the thread.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 16th, 2014, 06:43 AM
I remember when the rivalry was 2-8. Such a cute number, just BARELY a pigeon. 2-16 :sobbing:

Although Maria's 2 wins > Vika's 3 wins :tears:

Sure, Wimbledon F and YEC F > Miami F, Doha F, Cincinnati F.


But the OG F is worse than anything Serena's done to ANY other player in the finals of a big event.


In fact, with all the baked goods Serena's fed Maria, there could be a Sugarpova line of bagels and breadsticks.

Stamp Paid
May 16th, 2014, 06:47 AM
It's an ideal situation, no Henins, Capriatis - just a Mauresmo and Davenport in the way.
Mmhm.

doomsday
May 16th, 2014, 06:53 AM
But the OG F is worse than anything Serena's done to ANY other player in the finals of a big event.


You're trying too hard, this isn't even a major tournament.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 16th, 2014, 07:03 AM
You're trying too hard, this isn't even a major tournament.

You, trying to downplay the significance of a 6-0 6-1 soul snatching, in the finals of the Olympic Games, on Wimbledon's Centre Court, in front of billions, are trying too hard.


It's not called the Career Golden Slam for nothing.

Sure, it doesn't have the tennis pedigree of a YEC or a Miami, but it's one of the single biggest events in all of sports.

bandabou
May 16th, 2014, 07:09 AM
You're trying too hard, this isn't even a major tournament.

:spit:

MrSerenaWilliams
May 16th, 2014, 07:16 AM
Also, you might want to edit your signature :secret:

MrPitiful
May 16th, 2014, 01:29 PM
Even more embarrassing is her H2H against the current #2 e #3 =P

Hermetic
May 16th, 2014, 01:47 PM
I use to be a fan of Maria.

But I find her incredibly difficult to watch now, as she does not really have any steady consistency and a very generic game plan.

Standard
May 16th, 2014, 02:01 PM
Sure, Wimbledon F and YEC F > Miami F, Doha F, Cincinnati F.


But the OG F is worse than anything Serena's done to ANY other player in the finals of a big event.


In fact, with all the baked goods Serena's fed Maria, there could be a Sugarpova line of bagels and breadsticks.

I understand Maria's fans trying to salvage everything they can to try and make Vika's H2H worse.

But surely if we're just talking about H2Hs, it's undisputed that Vika has much better, more competitive matches against Serena.
Last year alone, she served half of all Serena's losses. It's just 2 but still...

In terms of prestige, yes, Maria's wins are more significant (Wimbly final, in particular) but since then, it's been so one-sided that no one would want to have those.

Alexandros
May 16th, 2014, 02:09 PM
Also, you might want to edit your signature :secret:

Be careful or you might just end up on his list :secret:

StarDuvallGrant
May 16th, 2014, 02:45 PM
I understand Maria's fans trying to salvage everything they can to try and make Vika's H2H worse.

But surely if we're just talking about H2Hs, it's undisputed that Vika has much better, more competitive matches against Serena.
Last year alone, she served half of all Serena's losses. It's just 2 but still...

In terms of prestige, yes, Maria's wins are more significant (Wimbly final, in particular) but since then, it's been so one-sided that no one would want to have those.

And that one has to go TEN YEARS in the past to find those wins.

Marcus1979
May 16th, 2014, 02:51 PM
the timing of the wins from both players is also part of the picture

Serena was just back from injury and inconsistent in 2004 when Pova beat here

when Vika beat her in 2013 she was in form and having a great year so couldn't we put more stock in the Vika wins due to the fact Vika had to earn those wins and take them from Serena and not just wait for Serena to inplode which happened too often in 2004 when she returned from injury.

bandabou
May 16th, 2014, 03:01 PM
the timing of the wins from both players is also part of the picture

Serena was just back from injury and inconsistent in 2004 when Pova beat here

when Vika beat her in 2013 she was in form and having a great year so couldn't we put more stock in the Vika wins due to the fact Vika had to earn those wins and take them from Serena and not just wait for Serena to inplode which happened too often in 2004 when she returned from injury.

I see no lies...;)

Set It Off
May 16th, 2014, 03:01 PM
the timing of the wins from both players is also part of the picture

Serena was just back from injury and inconsistent in 2004 when Pova beat here

when Vika beat her in 2013 she was in form and having a great year so couldn't we put more stock in the Vika wins due to the fact Vika had to earn those wins and take them from Serena and not just wait for Serena to inplode which happened too often in 2004 when she returned from injury.

Azarenka and Serena go to war when they meet, two warriors fighting with everything they have and then finding more to carry on with.

2004 when she returned from injury.

Oh, no doubt her fans understand about the "comeback from injury"; yes siree they do.

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