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Potato
May 20th, 2012, 10:31 PM
Both had title defense in this tournament. Whose Rome domination is more impressive?

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(3) JJ
R1 (BYE)
R2 def. (Q) T. Paszek 6-3 6-4
R3 def. A. Bondarenko 6-4 7-5
QF def. (10) E. Dementieva 6-1 6-2
SF def. (14) P. Schnyder 6-1 6-3
F def. (2) S. Kuznetsova 7-5 6-1

No sets dropped, and beat 3 dangerous clay players

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(4) JJ
R1 (BYE)
R2 def. F. Pennetta 6-1 6-4
R3 def. M. Kirilenko 6-1 6-1
QF def. (7) V. Williams 5-7 6-2 6-3
SF def. (2) M. Sharapova W/O
F def. (Q) A. Cornet 6-2 6-2

Got a walkover by Sharapova (this was shoulder injury time), probably would've beaten her anyway, but definitely a much easier draw than 2007. Only dropped 1 set to Venus (reigning Wimbledon champion)

Other facts: 6 consecutive QF, broken in 2012 during her epic slump, 3 Finals, beat WS back to back within 24 hours but lost to MJMS of all people :lol:


http://www.mariasharapova.com/media/570916/rome.jpg

(7) M. Sharapova
def. E. Makarova 6-1 6-1
def. (10) S. Peer 6-2 6-2
def. (7) V. Azarenka 4-6 3-0 ret.
def. (1) C. Wozniacki 7-5 6-3
def. (6) S. Stosur 6-2 6-4

Was losing to Vika before she retired, but overall a strong performance

http://siusopen.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/maria-sharapova-blog.jpg

(2) M. Sharapova
def. C. McHale 7-5 7-5
def. (13) A. Ivanovic 7-6 6-3
def. (WC) V. Williams 6-4 6-3
def. (12) A. Kerber 6-3 6-4
def. (8) N. Li 4-6 6-4 7-6

Not really in particularly good form this whole tournament, playing the final in mud, but yeah! All opponents she faced were all particularly impressive though.

Other facts: 4 nonconsecutive SF (she's only played this tournament 5 times), lost only 2 matches here, (Excluding walkover to JJ)

Hurley
May 20th, 2012, 10:37 PM
1993 Conchita Martínez Gabriela Sabatini 7–5, 6–1
1994 Conchita Martínez Martina Navrátilová 7–6(7–5), 6–4
1995 Conchita Martínez Arantxa Sánchez Vicario 6–3, 6–1
1996 Conchita Martínez Martina Hingis 6–2, 6–3

Bow down.

moby
May 20th, 2012, 10:39 PM
Winning back-to-back titles at Rome is a dubious honor.

Since the mid 80s (post-86, when the tournament was not held), we have had the following players defend Rome:
Sabatini (88-89, 91-92)
Martinez (93-96)
Mauresmo (04-05)
Jankovic (07-08)
*Sharapova (11-12), still in with a shot.

None of these players won RG, even though all were considered strong contenders.

The only multiple Rome winners aside from the above are, and they both did it over the span of two different careers:
Hingis (98, 06), "should have won RG" but never did
Seles (90, 00)

So only 1/7 of these players have won RG.

On the other hand, 8 players have won it once. 3 of them - Graf, Pierce, Serena, have won RG.

Granted, the statistics are skewed by the now-defunct Berlin Open, which perennial RG queens Graf and Henin picked over Rome.

Potato
May 20th, 2012, 10:39 PM
1993 Conchita Martínez Gabriela Sabatini 7–5, 6–1
1994 Conchita Martínez Martina Navrátilová 7–6(7–5), 6–4
1995 Conchita Martínez Arantxa Sánchez Vicario 6–3, 6–1
1996 Conchita Martínez Martina Hingis 6–2, 6–3

Bow down.

I meant more in the lines of active players. Chris Evert has 5 Rome titles i think :P

JJ all the way
May 20th, 2012, 10:43 PM
JJ also beat both williams in rome, but lost to MJMS

toxina90
May 20th, 2012, 10:44 PM
If Maria makes a 3rd final we can compare :oh:

I just think Jelena beat the better players, when they were actually threats on clay :shrug:

And although she didn't win her 3rd final, the run that year was the most impressive :drool:

Oh Empress, come back!

CetkovskaBrazil
May 20th, 2012, 10:44 PM
Masha. No more

Pops Maellard
May 21st, 2012, 12:50 AM
F def. (Q) A. Cornet 6-2 6-2



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Charlatan
May 21st, 2012, 01:15 AM
Empress of course :hearts: once when she cared enough :sobbing:

and who else could forget that legendary run in 2010, beating the williams sisters, despite the flopping in the final? :cheer:

Brad[le]y.
May 21st, 2012, 01:24 AM
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Cornet was a strong player back in 2008 :shrug:

Pops Maellard
May 21st, 2012, 02:08 AM
Cornet was a strong player back in 2008 :shrug:
She won Budapest! :eek:

Nicolás89
May 21st, 2012, 02:13 AM
She won Budapest! :eek:

And took Serena to 3 sets at the Olympics! :eek:

NashaMasha
May 21st, 2012, 02:20 AM
SF def. (2) M. Sharapova W/O
F def. (Q) A. Cornet 6-2 6-2
:facepalm:

Just Do It
May 21st, 2012, 07:44 AM
Jelena, just because she beat Serena and Venus back to back ... oh and then lost to MJMS in the final :tape:

mauresmofan
May 21st, 2012, 09:28 AM
HUH?



http://images.lainformacion.com/cms/conchita-martinez-quiere-asegurar-el-futuro-de-muchos-ninos-apadrinando-luces-para-aprender/2012_5_8_6FceS0AHMiLHinaYFbXpc2.jpg?width=645&height=645&type=flat&id=85sVjiufNTYoMoEvsF9o13&time=1336475033&project=lainformacion

These dearies have a long ways to go to be considered queen of the Italian Open!

-NAJ-
May 21st, 2012, 09:33 AM
Jelena, two titles & final in 2010. (d. Venus & Serena)

nat75
May 26th, 2012, 10:44 PM
HUH?



http://images.lainformacion.com/cms/conchita-martinez-quiere-asegurar-el-futuro-de-muchos-ninos-apadrinando-luces-para-aprender/2012_5_8_6FceS0AHMiLHinaYFbXpc2.jpg?width=645&height=645&type=flat&id=85sVjiufNTYoMoEvsF9o13&time=1336475033&project=lainformacion

These dearies have a long ways to go to be considered queen of the Italian Open!

Sorry but Rome was called Gabylandia not Conchilandia for something so we know who was the real Regina Di Roma. :P

Break My Rapture
May 26th, 2012, 11:03 PM
Jankovic?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m49f1xV57H1qan4hk.gif

HRHoliviasmith
May 26th, 2012, 11:29 PM
The Empress, no contest.

saint2
May 26th, 2012, 11:33 PM
Jankovic. For drinking champagne straight from the bottle. :worship::worship:

LenaDMania0003
May 27th, 2012, 03:02 AM
Jelena is slightly better so far
but I expect Maria will surpass Jelena if she keeps current form

Charlatan
May 27th, 2012, 05:29 AM
Jankovic. For drinking champagne straight from the bottle. :worship::worship:

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4dunsjFh41qieq1ao1_500.gif

vspak
May 27th, 2012, 07:20 AM
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4dunsjFh41qieq1ao1_500.gif

This is sexy.