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Wert.
May 20th, 2012, 09:20 PM
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БЕОГРАД - Кандидат Српске напредне странке Томислав Николић нови је председник Србије освојивши 49,8 одсто гласова, наспрам Бориса Тадића који је освојио 47 одсто гласова у другом кругу председничких избора одржаних вечерас, саопштио је ЦеСИД. Борис Тадић честитао је вечерас победу супарнику.
ЦЕСИД је вечерас саопштио да, према прелиминарним проценама, кандидат СНС Томислав Николић води са два одсто разлике испред кандидата Демократске странке Бориса Тадића и да је мало вероватно да ће се тај тренд променити.

"Ако се такав тренд настави, Николић ће бити председник Србије", Мале су шансе да се тренд окрене, разлика је довољно велика да на исход не може да се одрази гласање са Косова", рекао је директор ЦЕСИД-а Марко Благојевић на конференцији за новинаре.

Благојевић је рекао да су прелиминарни резултати ЦЕСИД-а добијени на основу 70 одсто обрађених бирачких места из узорка.

"Нема потребе да се сумња у веродостојност резултата ЦЕСИД-а", рекао је Благојевић.


BELGRADO - Serbia, candidato del partido progresista Tomislav Nikolic es el nuevo presidente de Serbia, al ganar 49,8 por ciento de los votos, contra Boris Tadic, que ganó el 47 por ciento de los votos en las elecciones presidenciales que tuvieron lugar esta tarde, dijo CESID. Boris Tadic, felicitó esta noche en el oponente que gana.
CESID noche anunció que, de acuerdo con estimaciones preliminares, el candidato Tomislav Nikolic Sistema Nacional de Salud lleva a la diferencia de dos por ciento frente al candidato del Partido Demócrata, Boris Tadic, y es poco probable que esta tendencia va a cambiar.

"Si esta tendencia continúa, Nikolic será el presidente de Serbia," Las posibilidades de que la tendencia se vuelve, la diferencia es suficientemente grande para que el resultado puede no reflejar un voto de Kosovo ", dijo el director del CESID Marko Blagojevic, la conferencia periodistas.

Blagojevic, dijo que los resultados preliminares obtenidos CESID sobre la base de un 70 por ciento de las mesas electorales procesadas en la muestra.

"No hay necesidad de dudar de la veracidad de los resultados CESID", dijo Blagojevic.



BELGRADE - Serbian Progressive Party candidate Tomislav Nikolic is the new President of Serbia, winning 49.8 percent of the vote, against Boris Tadic, who won 47 percent of the vote in the presidential elections held this evening, said CeSID. Boris Tadic congratulated the winning opponent tonight.
CESID tonight announced that, according to preliminary estimates, the candidate Tomislav Nikolic SNS leads to two percent difference in front of the Democratic Party candidate Boris Tadic, and it is unlikely that this trend will change.

"If this trend continues, Nikolic will be the president of Serbia," The chances that the trend turns, the difference is large enough that the outcome may not reflect a vote of Kosovo, "said the director of CESID Marko Blagojevic conference journalists.

Blagojevic said that the preliminary results CESID obtained based on 70 percent of polling stations processed in the sample.

"There is no need to doubt the veracity of the results CESID," said Blagojevic.

ivanban
May 20th, 2012, 09:26 PM
Congrats :facepalm: :help:

ce
May 20th, 2012, 10:56 PM
:facepalm:

ivanban
May 20th, 2012, 10:59 PM
Hmmm, it would be interesting to see if, for example, Nole wins RG/Olympic gold/whatever - will he accept congratulatory reception with Nikolic :tape:

In fact, I don't remember any famous role-model-ish serbian athlete supporting Nikolic :spit:

Just Do It
May 20th, 2012, 11:02 PM
Good, time for Serbia to get some kind of change, we've had enough of Tadic, he was a president for 8 years. In any other democratic country being a president for 12 years would be impossible.

ce
May 20th, 2012, 11:10 PM
^ Will see if you think the same when you get the call for army :oh:

JJ Expres
May 20th, 2012, 11:11 PM
Good, time for Serbia to get some kind of change, we've had enough of Tadic, he was a president for 8 years. In any other democratic country being a president for 12 years would be impossible.

completely agree, we need some change cause this clearly wasn't functioning properly :shrug: it's probably going to be the same shit all over again but whateever :shrug:

Just Do It
May 20th, 2012, 11:17 PM
I agree, I don't expect anything from Nikolic since being a president in Serbia gives you nothing. And no, he can't change any law, including a law about military service, it's pretty much all in governments hands.

Chris 84
May 20th, 2012, 11:18 PM
Good, time for Serbia to get some kind of change, we've had enough of Tadic, he was a president for 8 years. In any other democratic country being a president for 12 years would be impossible.

not true. in some countries you can run it forever, in some you can only run it for a short time.

from all i've heard about nikolic, he seems like an unpleasant moron. not that tadic seemed like some wonderful guy either, but still...

ce
May 20th, 2012, 11:19 PM
I agree, I don't expect anything from Nikolic since being a president in Serbia gives you nothing. And no, he can't change any law, including a law about military service, it's pretty much all in governments hands.

We will see :tape:
But i do hope he cannot :scared:

Just Do It
May 20th, 2012, 11:30 PM
not true. in some countries you can run it forever, in some you can only run it for a short time.

from all i've heard about nikolic, he seems like an unpleasant moron. not that tadic seemed like some wonderful guy either, but still...

In most countries you have 2 presidental mandates, so is in Serbia. However, they changed law in 2006 and because of that change Tadic got a chance to run for presidency two more times, which means he could be the president for 16 years, that is crazy. And countries where you can run for presidency forever are just opening tthe door for some crazy dictator, Hitler and Chavez style.

ivanban
May 20th, 2012, 11:36 PM
I agree, I don't expect anything from Nikolic since being a president in Serbia gives you nothing. And no, he can't change any law, including a law about military service, it's pretty much all in governments hands.

Yeah, Nikolic is sucha great persona to represent us to the world: a man who bought university diploma, who doesn't speak any foreign language, who isn't even capable to smile, who said that only religious people are good....... :bowdown:

Cp6uja
May 20th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Good, time for Serbia to get some kind of change, we've had enough of Tadic, he was a president for 8 years. In any other democratic country being a president for 12 years would be impossible.
Not every change is good change. I'm probably much older than You, so I very good remembering mr Nikolic from 90'... if he be just 10% that bad in next 5 years like president in Serbia things will go from bad to worse. And BTW You obviously don't understand difference between independent country Serbia and Serbia which is federal part of YUG/SRJ/SCG... Independent Serbia exist since 2006, so his first and only term like president of independent country Serbia is between 2008-2012. In former republics of ex-Yugoslavia we have cases that last presidents of Slovenia, Croatia, Macedonia like parts of former Yugoslavia become later in 2 terms presidents of independent countries Slovenia, Croatia and Macedonia (Kucan, Tudjman, Gligorov). In all other European new countries which is part of former federations we have similar cases (ex-USSR and ex-Czechoslovakia), most famous Yeltsin and Havel.

*JR*
May 20th, 2012, 11:45 PM
The dissolution of Yugoslavia was one of the worst things that happened in Europe, post WW II. Tito wasn't such a "hardcore Communist", and the old 6 Republic YUG could have democratized anyway, as he was dead already. So could the (non-Baltic) republics of the USSR under the 1991 treaty that Yeltsin forced 2B scrapped after the failed coup against a vacationing Gorbachev, but that's another subject.

Milito22
May 21st, 2012, 12:29 AM
:oh:

Joana
May 21st, 2012, 01:31 AM
It was merely a few hours ago that if someone had asked me to make a list of things that simply cannot happen, Tomislav Nikolic becoming the president would have been high up there. And now this.

Fuck Serbia.

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 02:13 AM
Good, time for Serbia to get some kind of change, we've had enough of Tadic, he was a president for 8 years. In any other democratic country being a president for 12 years would be impossible.

Ever heard of Svetozar Marovic? Has anyone in this country heard of him? :help:

I even heard that Boris Tadić was a president of Serbia for 12 years. :help: I guess we've all suffered some sort of amnesia.

Congrats to Diplomislav, I hope he'll screw us totally, we deserve it. I deserve it because I didn't vote.

Just Do It
May 21st, 2012, 07:09 AM
Ever heard of Svetozar Marovic? Has anyone in this country heard of him? :help:

I even heard that Boris Tadić was a president of Serbia for 12 years. :help: I guess we've all suffered some sort of amnesia.

Congrats to Diplomislav, I hope he'll screw us totally, we deserve it. I deserve it because I didn't vote.

Then you don't have any right to complain.

Epigone
May 21st, 2012, 08:21 AM
So, Nikolic has been rewarded for his ridiculous antics :o

From this...
Opposition SNS party leader Tomislav Nikolić has announced he will sit on the street until the government calls early elections. (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=02&dd=04&nav_id=72522)Since no reaction of the authority is expected, he said that he "has already prepared a piece of styrofoam he will sit on in the center of Belgrade and wait for the demands to be met."

to this...
Opposition SNS party leader starts hunger strike (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=16&nav_id=73833)

to this...
http://www.moja.rs/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/toma_nikolic_prekinuo_strajk.jpg

to this...
Nikolić ends hunger strike during "Easter summit" (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2011&mm=04&dd=24&nav_id=73982)Nikolić also had an easter egg and thus ended his hunger strike, started on April 16 in a bid to force early elections in Serbia.

to this...
Progressives vow to "physically defend each vote" (http://www.b92.net/eng/news/politics-article.php?yyyy=2012&mm=05&dd=14&nav_id=80245)
"This time there will be no electoral fraud, because we will really get into a fight every time they try to steal. I personally am ready to pick a fight at any polling station where they may want to steal votes," Nikolić told the press after a meeting of the SNS Main Board.
to this...
http://en.rian.ru/images/17357/22/173572288.jpg

I wonder what Serbia's relationship with Croatia will be like after this. It's ironic that Croatia got rid of Mesic and Kosor, while Serbia elected a genius who accused Boris Tadic of being an Ustaša (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ustasha) :tape:Ustašom je nazivao predsednika Srbije Borisa Tadića, čiji je rodjeni deda ubijen od strane ustaša:
Voditelj Olja Bećković: Čekajte, Boris Tadić je ustaša?
Toma Nikolić: Potpuno.
Olja Bećković: I ne osećate se glupo kad to izgovorite?
Toma Nikolić: Zašto?Bravo Srbijo! :facepalm:

JJ Expres
May 21st, 2012, 09:56 AM
4 years ago i was like, god i would never vote for nikolic... but you know what, since corruption is blossoming in serbia in the last 4 years, where doctors are demanding for money just to operate you, where you can pay almost every single exam, where you can kill person and go out from jail in 1 year and kill again, IT'S ENOUGH. I want serbia to join EU, but they are not going to let us simply because we suck in the most important aspects of life...


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Covek je dobio otkaz nakon ovoga...

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 10:06 AM
Then you don't have any right to complain.

It's true, 2 years ago I promised myself I wouldn't vote. Regardless of that, I almost decided to vote last week after that retarded drama.

Today I'm glad that he's our new president. What Epigone posted is just a small piece of all the awful things this guy has done. But I believe that he's great for Serbia's image, because his image is the proper image of our country. We like to think that Serbia looks like Novak Đoković, but it looks exactly like Nikolić.

Wert.
May 21st, 2012, 10:07 AM
^^ U kom minutu je rekao to zbog cega je dobio otkaz ?? :)

JJ Expres
May 21st, 2012, 10:09 AM
^^ U kom minutu je rekao to zbog cega je dobio otkaz ?? :)

nakon emisije ga je dobio, dok je ovo govorio i dalje je bio na svojoj poziciji...

Just Do It
May 21st, 2012, 10:12 AM
It's true, 2 years ago I promised myself I wouldn't vote. Regardless of that, I almost decided to vote last week after that retarded drama.

Today I'm glad that he's our new president. What Epigone posted is just a small piece of all the awful things this guy has done. But I believe that he's great for Serbia's image, because his image is the proper image of our country. We like to think that Serbia looks like Novak Đoković, but it looks exactly like Nikolić.

I will tell you why Nikolic won. Because of an extremely harsh campaign against him. We never had anti commercials on tv, and this time you could see anti Nikolic commercial every day on all TV channels. Not to mention kurir, blic, b92 and all major internet portals attacking Nikolic every day. People got sick of it.
And to add, there were reports last week Tadic has an advantage of 8%, people were probably sure Tadic is winning so they didn't bother going to vote ( like you ) ;)

Wert.
May 21st, 2012, 10:13 AM
^^ ma znam to, nego me mrzi da gledam ceo snimak pa me zanima u kom delu govori nesto toliko dramaticno da mu zbog toga daju otkaz :lol:

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 10:26 AM
4 years ago i was like, god i would never vote for nikolic... but you know what, since corruption is blossoming in serbia in the last 4 years, where doctors are demanding for money just to operate you, where you can pay almost every single exam, where you can kill person and go out from jail in 1 year and kill again, IT'S ENOUGH. I want serbia to join EU, but they are not going to let us simply because we suck in the most important aspects of life...


qcpi6pSn8DM

Covek je dobio otkaz nakon ovoga...

I decided not to vote because of corruption, because of all those Tadić's promises. But, tell me, why is the only other option Nikolic? He is absolutely the worst candidate we had and he won. I think that Serbia has never had such an awful person as a president.

Just Do It
May 21st, 2012, 10:31 AM
You had over 10 candidates in the first round, Nikolic wasn't the only option, you could choose, but because Serbia choose him, that is another story.
I am not sure why are people so frustrated by Nikolic winning, he has almost zero jurisdiction. I guess because they don't know much about politics and law, like ce who thinks Nikolc will be able to re-establish military service :lol:

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 10:33 AM
I will tell you why Nikolic won. Because of an extremely harsh campaign against him. We never had anti commercials on tv, and this time you could see anti Nikolic commercial every day on all TV channels. Not to mention kurir, blic, b92 and all major internet portals attacking Nikolic every day. People got sick of it.
And to add, there were reports last week Tadic has an advantage of 8%, people were probably sure Tadic is winning so they didn't bother going to vote ( like you ) ;)

No, I realized that Nikolic was going to win earlier, it was NID regardless of campaign. And I don't think that campaign was harsh, DS only reminded us of his past. How 'bout Nikolic's campaign? Hunger strike, styrofoam, robbed elections... Yes, the robbed elections. He deserves to go to jail because of that drama, he robbed the election because of spreading lies, actually.

Lin Lin
May 21st, 2012, 12:10 PM
:unsure:

ivanban
May 21st, 2012, 01:33 PM
No, I realized that Nikolic was going to win earlier, it was NID regardless of campaign. And I don't think that campaign was harsh, DS only reminded us of his past. How 'bout Nikolic's campaign? Hunger strike, styrofoam, robbed elections... Yes, the robbed elections. He deserves to go to jail because of that drama, he robbed the election because of spreading lies, actually.

Exactly!

ElusiveChanteuse
May 21st, 2012, 01:57 PM
Any interesting fact about this president?

Lin Lin
May 21st, 2012, 02:05 PM
I also want to know:lol:

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 02:27 PM
Any interesting fact about this president?

He used to be a cemetery supervisor.

Lin Lin
May 21st, 2012, 02:29 PM
Wow:speakles:

Chris 84
May 21st, 2012, 02:33 PM
In most countries you have 2 presidental mandates, so is in Serbia. However, they changed law in 2006 and because of that change Tadic got a chance to run for presidency two more times, which means he could be the president for 16 years, that is crazy. And countries where you can run for presidency forever are just opening tthe door for some crazy dictator, Hitler and Chavez style.

in the uk there is no upper limit for a prime minister, who in practice has more power than a serbian president. so far we've not had any crazy dictators, although quite frankly i wish we had a chavez.

we did have thatcher for over a decade, mind you....

Shvedbarilescu
May 21st, 2012, 02:38 PM
This is very sad. Commiserations to all the the decent people of Serbia who wish to move away for the extreme nationalism that has so blighted this country in the past.

Just Do It
May 21st, 2012, 03:00 PM
No, I realized that Nikolic was going to win earlier, it was NID regardless of campaign. And I don't think that campaign was harsh, DS only reminded us of his past. How 'bout Nikolic's campaign? Hunger strike, styrofoam, robbed elections... Yes, the robbed elections. He deserves to go to jail because of that drama, he robbed the election because of spreading lies, actually.

Exactly!

Ko gubi ima pravo da se ljuti :hatoff:

MaBaker
May 21st, 2012, 03:09 PM
Serbia is a parliamentary republic, so Nikolic can basically only smile and take pics, that is all. And the best thing about it is that Nikolic didn't really win, Tadic lost, so 80% of people who now voted for Nikolic will vote against him in the next elections because no one really wants him as a president. Unless he does miracles and somehow participates in a complete recovery of Serbia's economy and gets Serbia into EU in the next 5 years (all of that impossible), but in that case he'd fully deserve another 5 years as a president, no matter how big of a peasant he is.

So, Nikolic has been rewarded for his ridiculous antics :o
No, Tadic and his party have been punished: disrespecting the consitution, corruption, bad economy, "historical conciliation" with Milosevic's party, lies and empty promises, disgusting campaign...


And if some miracle happens and Tadic's party and Nikolic's party form a goverment together without SPS and screw Dacic (Milosevic' guy), that would be the best thing of all atm.
But yeah, if Nikolic forms a goverment with Dacic, then we're screwed. But it's still more likely that DS and SPS + LDP/URS will form the goverment, so everything might stay the same, just with Nikolic as a president instead of Tadic.

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 03:11 PM
Ko gubi ima pravo da se ljuti :hatoff:

Pa, da, eto kako ti ovo doživljavaš. Kao sport. Možeš slobodno i neki retardirani gif da okačiš. čisto da mi se rugaš, jer sam izgubila.

Nije ovo večiti derbi. Ako gubim ja, gubiš i ti. Osim ako nisi i sam naprednjak. Ako jesi, čestitam. :shrug: Ja znam da nijedna nestranačka ličnost nije na dobitku ovim izborom. A, da li možemo i dublje da tonemo, videće se. Mislim da ima potencijala i za to.

Just Do It
May 21st, 2012, 03:15 PM
Pa, da, eto kako ti ovo doživljavaš. Kao sport. Možeš slobodno i neki retardirani gif da okačiš. čisto da mi se rugaš, jer sam izgubila.

Nije ovo večiti derbi. Ako gubim ja, gubiš i ti. Osim ako nisi i sam naprednjak. Ako jesi, čestitam. :shrug: Ja znam da nijedna nestranačka ličnost nije na dobitku ovim izborom. A, da li možemo i dublje da tonemo, videće se. Mislim da ima potencijala i za to.

Ne znam sta da ti kazem, po komentarima mojih prijatelju na fejsbuku mogu slobodno da kazem da je nacija duboko podeljena na 2 struje. Nikoliceve pristalice slave a Tadiceve se sele iz zemlje ili padaju u ocaj. Ne razumem zbog cega takve reakcije? Nema potrebe za komentarima tipa propali smo, jebes ovu zemlju, umrecemo, gladovacemo, selim se u EU? To sto ce Nikolic biti predsednik, nece uticati da ti od sutra losije zivis isto kao sto i da je Tadic reizabran ne bi uticalo da ti bolje zivis. Ziveces isto, sedi, uci, radi i ne zali se i bori se za svoj zivot a ne kukaj ko ce ici po svetu i sto bi Ma rekla, smeskati se pred objektivima kamera jer to nece uticati na tvoj zivot.

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 03:23 PM
Ne znam sta da ti kazem, po komentarima mojih prijatelju na fejsbuku mogu slobodno da kazem da je nacija duboko podeljena na 2 struje. Nikoliceve pristalice slave a Tadiceve se sele iz zemlje ili padaju u ocaj. Ne razumem zbog cega takve reakcije? Nema potrebe za komentarima tipa propali smo, jebes ovu zemlju, umrecemo, gladovacemo, selim se u EU? To sto ce Nikolic biti predsednik, nece uticati da ti od sutra losije zivis isto kao sto i da je Tadic reizabran ne bi uticalo da ti bolje zivis. Ziveces isto, sedi, uci, radi i ne zali se i bori se za svoj zivot a ne kukaj ko ce ici po svetu i sto bi Ma rekla, smeskati se pred objektivima kamera jer to nece uticati na tvoj zivot.

Nemam ja gde da se preselim, to nije ni opcija. Za nas bi bilo najbolje da DS i SNS formiraju vlast, a to se neće desiti, pošto političare ne zanima šta je najbolje za državu. SPS - DSS - SNS je katastrofalna mogućnost. Kohabitacija je, takođe, katastrofa. Ovo nije samo užasan izbor predsednika, već će nastati i potpuni haos pri formiranju vlasti. Sad ćemo pola godine čekati da oforme parlamentarnu većinu kao onomad kad se Tandarela nećkala.

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Joana
May 21st, 2012, 03:29 PM
A, da li možemo i dublje da tonemo, videće se. Mislim da ima potencijala i za to.

Naravno da ima. Ceo svoj život slušam kako nikad nije bilo gore i kako smo dotakli dno, pa se nekim čudom granice tog dna stalo spuštaju.

Odvratan mi je taj kvazi-optimizam koji se širi od strane inače razumnih ljudi. Kao, ništa strašno, svi su isti, predsednik i nema neku funkciju, neće Toma dugo, pa će onda nešto morati da se promeni i biće bolje. 'Oće q.
Ne mislim ni ja da će se dogoditi nešto spektakularno loše, makar ne odmah, ali neće biti ništa bolje. A narednih 5 godina će nam predsednik biti nekadašnji visoki funkcioner partije koja je umešana u ratne zločine, a realna šansa je da nam premijer bude jebeni Dačić.
Ej, Nikolić i Dačić, u Srbiji, 2012. godine. :facepalm: I onda se mi nešto rugamo Miljotiju.

*JR*
May 21st, 2012, 03:36 PM
No, Tadic and his party have been punished: disrespecting the consitution, corruption, bad economy, "historical conciliation" with Milosevic's party, lies and empty promises, disgusting campaign...

You make Tadic sound just like 1990's shameless opportunist Vuk Draskovic. :help: The only potentially outstanding leader Serbia had after the breakup of Yugoslavia was assassinated PM Zoran Djindjic. :sad:

I suspect that the almost assured (eventual) convictions in the ICC's Hague Tribunal of Karadzic and Mladic for war crimes in Bosnia will be bigger news, especially if Slobo's "understudy" Vojislav Seselj is found guilty too.

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 03:40 PM
Naravno da ima. Ceo svoj život slušam kako nikad nije bilo gore i kako smo dotakli dno, pa se nekim čudom granice tog dna stalo spuštaju.


Ja stalno slušam kako je tokom devedesetih bilo bolje ili isto kao sad. Možda sam ja živela u paradevedesetim, negde u limbu... ili....

Joana
May 21st, 2012, 03:45 PM
Ja stalno slušam kako je tokom devedesetih bilo bolje ili isto kao sad. Možda sam ja živela u paradevedesetim, negde u limbu... ili....

To je tek biser sam po sebi. Svima koji to misle bih poželela ekspresan povratak u zlatne devedesete, kad to ne bi uticalo na mene i meni bliske.

Najsmešnije je što bi sad svi dupe dali da mogu da žive kao 1990. pre rata, ali ne, tada im to nije odgovaralo, nego su išli da ispravljaju istorijske nepravde i oslobađaju svete srpske zemlje.

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 04:13 PM
To je tek biser sam po sebi. Svima koji to misle bih poželela ekspresan povratak u zlatne devedesete, kad to ne bi uticalo na mene i meni bliske.

Najsmešnije je što bi sad svi dupe dali da mogu da žive kao 1990. pre rata, ali ne, tada im to nije odgovaralo, nego su išli da ispravljaju istorijske nepravde i oslobađaju svete srpske zemlje.

Ma, ljudi se ne sećaju šta je bilo pre 5 godina, a ne onoga što je bilo tokom devedesetih. Najbolje mi je kad čujem kako Tadić vlada već 12 godina i kako je on vratio SPS na vlast. :lol:

SPS se vratio isključivo zbog Tandarele. Zbog Tandarele je Tadić onako ubedljivo i pobedio na prošlim izborima. I onda nisu imali s kim u koaliciju, a SPS bi svakako bio na vlasti, bilo uz Tadića, bilo uz Tomu i Tandarelu. Kad su se DSS i DS raspičkali zbog fotelja i sujete, bilo je jasno da ćemo morati da prihvatimo ili Tomu ili Ivicu, a sasvim je moguće da sad dobijemo obojicu, sve sa Tandrelom.

azdaja
May 21st, 2012, 05:50 PM
You make Tadic sound just like 1990's shameless opportunist Vuk Draskovic. :help: The only potentially outstanding leader Serbia had after the breakup of Yugoslavia was assassinated PM Zoran Djindjic. :sad:
djindjic is probably the most overrated politicians from that region in recent history. he was assassinated but had it not been like that he would have probably done a similar job as tadic did.

tadic has done plenty of things right. he worked on reconciliation in the region, he finally purged the police and secret services suffiently so the remaining hague fugitives could get arrested, he tackled the problems of organised crime and corruption, problems which were inherited from earlier times and won't be solved overnight. he is well respected abroad and received awards for his work but apparently people in serbia blame him for things out of his control. it's not like he created the global economic crisis which, among other things, slowed down the plans for the expansion of the eu and the process of european integrations is the key to success of any serbian government in most fields.

he made a coalition with the former milosevic's party but people seem to have forgotten that they were the king makers back then and could have as well chosen to make a coalition with far-right nationalists. instead they chose the democrats which got them into the international of european socialist parties, which means that they are not the same party as in the 90's.

i must admit i don't know much about nikolic since he was a member of the radical party which automatically renders him a scumbag in my eyes. i know he split from them and tries to refashion his faction as a european conservative party but tbh, serbian political scene doesn't look very european to me. it looks more american. on the "left" you have democrats and the right is dominated by lunatics. and being a clown and a scumbag at the same time isn't going to help him make that transformation even if his intentions are genuine.

azdaja
May 21st, 2012, 06:34 PM
oh yeah, i've just seen the voter turnout was something like 46%. so, it was really about democrats not being able to mobilise their support. still :no:

Wert.
May 21st, 2012, 06:39 PM
Želimo uspeh predsedniku Nikoliću u suočavanju sa izazovima koji mu predstoje i u odgovoru na ogromna očekivanja srpskog naroda u vezi sa privrednim rastom i prosperitetom, kaže se u zajedničkom saopštenju dvojice predsednika.

Kako se navodi, predsednik Nikolić sada snosi naročitu odgovornost da obezbedi da Srbija dobije stabilne i funkcionalne institucije.

Van Rompej i Barozo su konstatovali da je srpski narod na izborima dao jasnu podršku evropski orijentisanoj politici vlade i ukazali da rukovodstvo sada ima jak mandat da nastavi sa takvom politikom i napravi sledeći korak na evropskom putu – otpočinjanje pregovora o pridruživanju, kada ispuni neophodne uslove.

Snažno ohrabrujemo predsednika Nikolića da nastavi u tom pravcu, poručili su evropski lideri i upozorili da predstojeći izazovi od njega zahtevaju visok stepen državničke svesti.

I visoka predstavnica EU za spoljnu poltiku Ketrin Ešton čestitala je Nikoliću izbor za predsednika i poručila da je potrebno brzo obrazovanje vlade koja će raditi na ekonomskim reformama i evrointegracijama.

Ona je navela da je "Srbiji potrebna snažna vlada i parlamentarna većina za ostvarivanje ekonomskog napretka i evropskih integracije kojim srpski narod teži" što, kako je ocenila, "nije moguće bez teških reformi i političke hrabrosti"

I predsednik Evropskog parlamenta Martin Šulc čestitao je izbornu pobedu novom predsedniku Srbije Tomislavu Nikoliću, rekavši da se nada da će Srbija ostati na putu evropskih integracija.

Izvestilac Evropskog parlamenta za Srbiju Jelko Kacin pozdravio je održavanje drugog kruga izbora koji su protekli bez neregularnosti i dodao da treba poštovati volju građana Srbije.



We wish the President success Nikolic in meeting the challenges ahead and that his response to the huge expectations of the Serbian people in connection with economic growth and prosperity, said in a joint statement the two presidents.

As stated, the president of Nikoli now bears a particular responsibility to ensure that Serbia gets stable and functioning institutions.

Van Rompuy and Barroso noted that the Serbian people in the elections gave a clear support to European policy-oriented government and suggested that management now has a strong mandate to continue with this policy and make the next step in the European way - the start of accession negotiations, when it meets the necessary requirements.

We strongly encourage President Nikolic to continue in that direction, said European leaders warned that the challenges ahead of it requires a high degree of statesmanship consciousness.

The High Representative of EU foreign poltika Ashton Nikolic congratulated the election for president and said that the need to quickly form the government that will work on economic reforms and European integration.

She said that "Serbia needs a strong government and parliamentary majority to achieve economic prosperity and European integration of the Serbian people which aims" which, he declared, "it is not possible without serious reforms and political courage"

The president of the European Parliament Martin Schultz congratulated the election victory of the new president of Serbia, Tomislav Nikolic, said he hopes that Serbia will remain on the path of European integration.

European Parliament Rapporteur for Serbia Jelko Kacin welcomed the holding of the second round of elections that have elapsed without any irregularities, adding that they should respect the will of the citizens of Serbia.

Cajka
May 21st, 2012, 11:29 PM
i must admit i don't know much about nikolic since he was a member of the radical party which automatically renders him a scumbag in my eyes. i know he split from them and tries to refashion his faction as a european conservative party but tbh, serbian political scene doesn't look very european to me. it looks more american. on the "left" you have democrats and the right is dominated by lunatics. and being a clown and a scumbag at the same time isn't going to help him make that transformation even if his intentions are genuine.

SNS and DS have absolutely the same ideology, that's the main reason why people don't see the difference/don't care. I will never forget his past. If I'd choose to vote for conservative party, it would be DSS, because they definitely seem to be the most serious conservative party. But they also made too many bad decisions in the past. If I'd choose to vote for a liberal party, it would be LDP, but I really can't take them seriously. There's only one person I truly respect from that party, it's Žarko Korać. In fact, he might be the only politician in Serbia I truly respect and take seriously.