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kangwoo
May 19th, 2012, 04:21 PM
which Premier Mandatory and Premier 5 tournaments excite you most


and Premier tournament?

Brisbane
Sydney
Paris
Dubai
Charleston
Stuttgart
Brussels
Eastbourne
Stanford
San Diego
New Haven
Moscow

vozas
May 19th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Miami and Rome. I think it's pretty much consensual.

Wozzilroy
May 19th, 2012, 04:24 PM
I try to keep most my excitement for slam events only. If I get excited every week I would need medication to calm me down

Brad[le]y.
May 19th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Miami is the most prestigious. Then IW or Rome.

vozas
May 19th, 2012, 04:35 PM
Who voted for Cincinatti? :spit:

Simugna Help
May 19th, 2012, 04:37 PM
Who voted for Cincinatti? :spit:
Me. I'm more excited about fast Cincinatti courts than slow ass Rome clay.

Pump-it-UP
May 19th, 2012, 04:37 PM
Miami for PM.

The best P5 varies by the year. Generally they all end up sucking even when the draw looks GOAT. Can't forget Toronto last year and how everyone was excited for Venus/Ana R1, Venus/Caro R3, Serena/JJ R2, Serena/Kim R3, etc.... and then every big name bar Serena/Vika was out of the tournament by Wednesday. :tape: Rome ends up being the best event more often than not.

kangwoo
May 19th, 2012, 04:39 PM
Who voted for Cincinatti? :spit:

wasnt sharapova the df?

In The Zone
May 19th, 2012, 05:32 PM
Agreed. Everyone turns out for Miami and Rome. Everyone needs/wants the clay practice because RG is always the most wide open slam. All the players want the tough matches on the clay. On hardcourts, players know they don't have to test themselves before Australia and the US. And at Wimbledon, we've seen Venus and Serena win it year after year without a grass warmup.

DragonFlame
May 19th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Hmm i prefered dubai over doha tier1. :(


If i have to pick from this list it's Miami for PM and Toronto for P5

Break My Rapture
May 19th, 2012, 05:40 PM
Indian Wells and Rome. I just think the atmosphere and environment at IW looks nicer than in Miami, even though IW has lazy ass crowds.

GoofyDuck
May 19th, 2012, 05:40 PM
Beijing! can't wait :cheer: :bounce:

A-Bond
May 19th, 2012, 05:45 PM
Premier Mandatory: Indian Wells (a bit biased because of Hantuchova
Premier 5: Rome or Canada, I don't like the others :o
Premier 600: Paris Indoors (great surface), Stuttgart (great attendance), Brisbane (great stadium)

madmax
May 19th, 2012, 05:47 PM
Miami and Rome.
These two are pretty much the most prestigious non-slams events for years now (IW is losing it's charm and WTA matches there are usually utter shitte quality)

safinfans629
May 19th, 2012, 05:50 PM
Miami & Rogers Cup

Charlatan
May 19th, 2012, 05:52 PM
Apart from flopjing and flopdrid, the rest doesn't seem as bad!

It's a tie between Rome and Miami

As for Premier tournaments, Charleston and Stanford

Craig.
May 19th, 2012, 06:04 PM
Rome & Miami for sure. I love Montreal/Toronto too. The crowd, the venues, the coverage :inlove:

FleetSeb
May 19th, 2012, 06:10 PM
I hate the distinction between P5 and PM. Winning a P5 is just as prestigious as winning a PM, literally I don't think the players distinguish between the two at all TBH. Except Dubai maybe.

Rome and Miami. I like IW too.

Dislike Madrid the most. Also Cincy,

Yoncé
May 20th, 2012, 12:55 AM
Miami definitely for PM, for the P5s probably, for me, a toss up between Rome and Rogers Cup - both always seem to have a great atmosphere.

Sydney, Charleston and Stanford are great Premiers. I think Brisbane could be better without the stupid rule about how few top 10 players can play each tournament. And this year from what I saw Stuttgart had a great atmosphere and was a great tournament

Matt-TennisFan24
May 20th, 2012, 01:16 AM
To me there are three Premiers ahead of the rest:

1. Miami: Based on its history of champions (and the Non-Williams boycott), this is definitely the biggest Premier Mandatory. Not one champion has won it who hasnt won a slam.

2. Canada: An event with a lot of history, which I think definitely makes up for its status. It was pretty much one of the biggest events outside the Slams during the 80s already.

3. Rome: Also has a lot of history, but there are some WTF winners in the champions list. Anyway, I think 3rd place would be ok for the tournament now on its terms.


Events like Beijing, Madrid and Doha are just building their history, so they are not that much prestigious (at least for now).

Indian Wells would get the 4th place for me, its still prestigious, and Tokyo has a nice list of winners too, I'd put it in the 5th place actually

Marcus1979
May 20th, 2012, 01:37 AM
Miami for PM.

The best P5 varies by the year. Generally they all end up sucking even when the draw looks GOAT. Can't forget Toronto last year and how everyone was excited for Venus/Ana R1, Venus/Caro R3, Serena/JJ R2, Serena/Kim R3, etc.... and then every big name bar Serena/Vika was out of the tournament by Wednesday. :tape: Rome ends up being the best event more often than not.

The Canadian OPen has sucked for years, even before the roadmap it was onl;y ever getting 2-3 top 10 players at best.

Because its so close to US Open its often plagued from withdrawals or players just not playing at all.

MrSerenaWilliams
May 20th, 2012, 01:48 AM
Miami/Rome

ptkten
May 20th, 2012, 01:58 AM
As many have said the three best are Miami, Rome, and Canada. Indian Wells is right behind. After that, the tournaments are interchangeable. If any of them moved to a different city would anyone care outside of the people who live in the city?

I actually like a lot of the premiers more than Madrid, Beijing, Cincy etc.

Marcus1979
May 20th, 2012, 02:08 AM
SYdney normally has a strong field. I know it normally has a strong cut off rank for direct entry. for example this year Kirilenko was the top seed for the qualifing event ranked at #28

chingching
May 20th, 2012, 02:32 AM
Sydney. Number 1, cause I live in Sydney and I can go. Also, because its the second weekof the year and the first week where most of the top players play, there are many upsets

Justin SW
May 20th, 2012, 02:46 AM
Montreal is great. Toronto is shit. Anybody here that goes to Montreal will agree that it's one of the best tournament out there. It has the best crowds plus you don't need to pay to watch most matches as only Center Court requires you to have a ticket.

vozas
May 20th, 2012, 03:07 AM
wasnt sharapova the df?

So? The tournament is still shit.

vozas
May 20th, 2012, 03:08 AM
No votes for Madrid :oh:

And who voted for Bombjing? :tape: that's the most depressing tournament of the year. No one gives a shit about it

Barktra
May 20th, 2012, 03:12 AM
Cincy because I always go their :p And IW

Charlatan
May 20th, 2012, 03:16 AM
No votes for Madrid :oh:

And who voted for Bombjing? :tape: that's the most depressing tournament of the year. No one gives a shit about it

that would be be Na-Mug...he is the one proclaiming it as the 5th slam :rolls:

Rolling-Thunder
May 20th, 2012, 12:32 PM
Miami: have been there a few times for the tournament. Love the location, the site and the courts.