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Caipirinha Guy
May 19th, 2012, 12:14 PM
This is a cheering thread for Roland Garros 2012. Aga seeded with "3". Ula in MD. GL!

saul1333
May 19th, 2012, 07:30 PM
Crossing my fingers for good results :)

Caipirinha Guy
May 26th, 2012, 10:16 AM
Agnieszka vs Jovanovski
Ula vs Parmentier

in the 1st round.
Keeping fingers crossed.

awsk8er
May 26th, 2012, 11:51 AM
Much as I hate to write it, I cant see her advancing deep into this tournament, to beat Venus, Sveta and most likely Ana in one competition is a tall order really. Hats off, if she can do it. anyway, go Aga!:bounce:

MH1990
May 26th, 2012, 03:41 PM
Roland Garros MD


[1] Agnieszka Radwanska vs Bojana Jovanovski
Venus Williams vs Paula Ormaechea
Yung-Jan Chan vs Kateryna Bondarenko
Mirjana Lucic vs [26] Svetlana Kuznetsova


Very tough section, with Venus and Kuznetsova just to make R4, but both can be patchy so let's hope for the best :) If she were to make R4 she'd most likely play Errani or Ivanovic, then if she were to make the QF it'd probably be Kerber, Bartoli, Pennetta or Medina Garrigues. Apart from the first round, the QF looks like it might be the easiest match up until the SF :lol:

Best of luck to Agnieszka, I think Brussels has been good preparation for her because it's so slow!

saul1333
May 26th, 2012, 03:44 PM
Tough draw for both. Good luck :)

mateusz2904
May 26th, 2012, 04:32 PM
It seems to be the worst quarter of the draw :( If Aga beats Venus, she should become more confident there and SF is possible. And Vika should be there because I don't see any player in her quarter who could beat her.

When it comes to Ula, she is able to make a surprise in R2, if she manages to win her first match.

awsk8er
May 26th, 2012, 05:28 PM
beacuse it is the worst quarter. on the positive side, if she beats Venus , Sveta nad Ana none of the trolls on here will be able to say that she had an easy draw.

Malva
May 26th, 2012, 09:11 PM
if she beats Venus, Sveta nad Ana none of the trolls on here will be able to say that she had an easy draw.

I seriously doubt that: a typical GM hater is cooked in his own hate, is incapable of anything but hate, a looser with no goals and without any achievements in his own life, compensating this by basking in the success of his fave (applies especially to Sharapova's fanboys), and by loitering at the GM, in some cases 24 hours a day, showing what a worthless person he is. Similar sociopathic individuals would not be tolerated in any civilized place, this is the whole reason why you find them in such numbers here: ludicrous lack of moderation is responsible for this situation, and none of us is capable of changing that.

My experience is telling me that responding or even noting their existence is naive and pointless to the extreme. For any form of dialog to make sense, the parties involved must display the minimum of good will.

So, my advice is: don't feel inhibited from saying whatever interesting you can say, respond and talk to those who display some good will and reason, ignoring existence of the sociopaths. Valuable discussions occasionally take place in the GM after all, and valuable posts happen too, even though they constitute probably less than 1% of the overall total.

SoBizarre
May 26th, 2012, 09:42 PM
I seriously doubt that: a typical GM hater is cooked in his own hate, is incapable of anything but hate, a looser with no goals and without any achievements in his own life, compensating this by basking in the success of his fave (applies especially to Sharapova's fanboys), and by loitering at the GM, in some cases 24 hours a day, showing what a worthless person he is. Similar sociopathic individuals would not be tolerated in any civilized place, this is the whole reason why you find them in such numbers here: ludicrous lack of moderation is responsible for this situation, and none of us is capable of changing that.

My experience is telling me that responding or even noting their existence is naive and pointless to the extreme. For any form of dialog to make sense, the parties involved must display the minimum of good will.

So, my advice is: don't feel inhibited from saying whatever interesting you can say, respond and talk to those who display some good will and reason, ignoring existence of the sociopaths. Valuable discussions occasionally take place in the GM after all, and valuable posts happen too, even though they constitute probably less than 1% of the overall total.

To make a long story short (no pun intended ;)), make a use of your ignore list and DNFTT. :)

awsk8er
May 26th, 2012, 09:53 PM
I seriously doubt that: a typical GM hater is cooked in his own hate, is incapable of anything but hate, a looser with no goals and without any achievements in his own life, compensating this by basking in the success of his fave (applies especially to Sharapova's fanboys), and by loitering at the GM, in some cases 24 hours a day, showing what a worthless person he is. Similar sociopathic individuals would not be tolerated in any civilized place, this is the whole reason why you find them in such numbers here: ludicrous lack of moderation is responsible for this situation, and none of us is capable of changing that.

My experience is telling me that responding or even noting their existence is naive and pointless to the extreme. For any form of dialog to make sense, the parties involved must display the minimum of good will.

So, my advice is: don't feel inhibited from saying whatever interesting you can say, respond and talk to those who display some good will and reason, ignoring existence of the sociopaths. Valuable discussions occasionally take place in the GM after all, and valuable posts happen too, even though they constitute probably less than 1% of the overall total.
oh I understand all that very well, but its sometimes really difficult to ignore them, and read X number of insults everyday:rolleyes:.However, I shall survive :lol:

Caipirinha Guy
May 26th, 2012, 09:59 PM
"On clay I think I need longer to warm up, not just the five minutes before the match," Radwanska said afterwards. "At the end I won nine games in a row - it was a good comeback, I think. And it's always great to win a tournament.

"I'm happy to get some good preparation in ahead of the French Open."

http://www.wtatennis.com/news/20120526/radwanska-wins-10th-wta-title-in-brussels_2256076_2789314

This tournament was a good WARM UP I think. At least she will start her RG without any rustiness. ;) Girl knows what she's doing.

Cinek
May 27th, 2012, 01:00 AM
Go sisters!

Simugna Help
May 27th, 2012, 10:37 AM
RG courts are noticeably faster than Brussels, good for Aga :yeah:

saul1333
May 27th, 2012, 01:04 PM
Liezel Huber USA (1) / Lisa Raymond USA (1) v Kaia Kanepi EST / Shuai Zhang CHN
Irena Pavlovic FRA / Aravane Rezai FRA v Stephanie Foretz Gacon FRA / Kristina Mladenovic FRA
Casey Dellacqua AUS / Alexandra Panova RUS v Eva Birnerova CZE / Petra Cetkovska CZE
Irina-Camelia Begu ROU / Shahar Peer ISR v Jarmila Gajdosova AUS (14) / Anastasia Rodionova AUS (14)
Nuria Llagostera Vives ESP (12) / Maria Jose Martinez Sanchez ESP (12) v Klaudia Jans-Ignacik POL / Alla Kudryavtseva RUS
Janette Husarova SVK / Christina McHale USA v Anastasia Pavlyuchenkova RUS / Lucie Safarova CZE
Flavia Pennetta ITA / Francesca Schiavone ITA v Sorana Cirstea ROU / Ayumi Morita JPN
Angelique Kerber GER / Agnieszka Radwanska POL v Iveta Benesova CZE (8) / Barbora Zahlavova Strycova CZE (8)

Sara Errani ITA (4) / Roberta Vinci ITA (4) v Alberta Brianti ITA / Patricia Mayr-Achleitner AUT
Timea Babos HUN / Su-Wei Hsieh TPE v Alize Cornet FRA / Virginie Razzano FRA
Caroline Garcia FRA / Mathilde Johansson FRA v Eleni Daniilidou GRE / Mandy Minella LUX
Gisela Dulko ARG / Paola Suarez ARG v Bethanie Mattek-Sands USA (15) / Sania Mirza IND (15)
Natalie Grandin RSA (9) / Vladimira Uhlirova CZE (9) v Sofia Arvidsson SWE / Johanna Larsson SWE
Hao-Ching Chan TPE / Yung-Jan Chan TPE v Jamie Hampton USA / Chanelle Scheepers RSA
Dominika Cibulkova SVK / Saisai Zheng CHN v Claire Feuerstein FRA / Victoria Larriere FRA
Julia Goerges GER / Samantha Stosur AUS v Ekaterina Makarova RUS (6) / Elena Vesnina RUS (6)

Maria Kirilenko RUS (7) / Nadia Petrova RUS (7) v Lourdes Dominguez Lino ESP / Romina Oprandi SUI
Akgul Amanmuradova UZB / Kateryna Bondarenko UKR v Carla Suarez Navarro ESP / Anastasiya Yakimova BLR
Chia-Jung Chuang TPE / Vera Dushevina RUS v Polona Hercog SLO / Urszula Radwanska POL
Iryna Bremond FRA / Sophie Lefevre FRA v Anabel Medina Garrigues ESP (11) / Arantxa Parra Santonja ESP (11)
Marina Erakovic NZL (16) / Monica Niculescu ROU (16) v Severine Beltrame FRA / Laura Thorpe FRA
Shuai Peng CHN / Jie Zheng CHN v Mona Barthel GER / Varvara Lepchenko USA
Simona Halep ROU / Aleksandra Wozniak CAN v Alexandra Cadantu ROU / Anne Keothavong GBR
Tamira Paszek AUT / Jasmin Woehr GER v Vania King USA (3) / Yaroslava Shvedova KAZ (3)

Andrea Hlavackova CZE (5) / Lucie Hradecka CZE (5) v Julie Coin FRA / Pauline Parmentier FRA
Greta Arn HUN / Tsvetana Pironkova BUL v Anna-Lena Groenefeld GER / Petra Martic CRO
Sloane Stephens USA / Yanina Wickmayer BEL v Liga Dekmeijere LAT / Tamarine Tanasugarn THA
Andreja Klepac SLO / Alicja Rosolska POL v Raquel Kops-Jones USA (10) / Abigail Spears USA (10)
Svetlana Kuznetsova RUS (13) / Vera Zvonareva RUS (13) v Darya Kustova BLR / Anna Tatishvili GEO
Renata Voracova CZE / Klara Zakopalova CZE v Kimiko Date-Krumm JPN / Rika Fujiwara JPN
Ksenia Pervak KAZ / Lesia Tsurenko UKR v Olga Govortsova BLR / Galina Voskoboeva KAZ
Kristina Barrois GER / Darija Jurak CRO v Kveta Peschke CZE (2) / Katarina Srebotnik SLO (2)

Simugna Help
May 27th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Aga with Angelique :hearts: But they drew a good team in the first round :unsure:

Malva
May 27th, 2012, 02:23 PM
Agnieszka with Angelique (?) what a nice surprise (!)

saul1333
May 27th, 2012, 04:15 PM
http://i48.tinypic.com/1hr284.png

Cinek
May 27th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Radber :eek:

Go Aga!

saul1333
May 28th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Tuesday

Ula 2nd match on court 1.

Good luck :)

Caipirinha Guy
May 28th, 2012, 05:13 PM
Both sister on COURT 1. :D

Simugna Help
May 28th, 2012, 05:25 PM
They're also both playing doubles tomorrow.

saul1333
May 28th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Aga wins 6-1, 6-0

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg526/scaled.php?tn=0&server=526&filename=vtx.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

Next Venus.

saul1333
May 29th, 2012, 02:33 PM
6-4, 6-3 :cheer: :bounce: Petra next :unsure:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg137/scaled.php?tn=0&server=137&filename=jli2.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg809/scaled.php?tn=0&server=809&filename=8iov.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Caipirinha Guy
May 29th, 2012, 02:53 PM
Great start of RG for both sisters! :cheer:
Can they keep it up? :unsure:

Cinek
May 29th, 2012, 03:00 PM
Ula :hearts:

but now Kvitova and Venus :scared:

Good luck!

saul1333
May 29th, 2012, 04:30 PM
Aga v Venus last on PC.

saul1333
May 29th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Ula/Hercog retire down 1-4 :sad:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg513/scaled.php?tn=0&server=513&filename=znw.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

Aga/Kerber win 7-6(4), 7-5. BZS/Benesova served for the first set. Team Aga saved 3 sps in the 2nd set.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg848/scaled.php?tn=0&server=848&filename=4egh.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

Cinek
May 29th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Radber :eek: :worship:
Herwańska :sad:

Go Aga tomorrow!

olivero
May 29th, 2012, 11:23 PM
Radber :eek: :worship:
Herwańska :sad:


I know you're trying very hard but those nicknames are not funny. At all.



I can't wait for tomorrow's match :armed:

rucolo
May 30th, 2012, 12:54 PM
Aga and Ula easily into FO R2 :cheer:

I can`t stand Venus. Aga, please don`t lose this :bigcry:

saul1333
May 30th, 2012, 06:40 PM
6-2, 6-3
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg818/scaled.php?tn=0&server=818&filename=a5p.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

Kuznetsova next

saul1333
May 30th, 2012, 06:49 PM
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg715/scaled.php?tn=0&server=715&filename=dbg.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

Crossing fingers and toes :)

Also Aga/Kerber v Flavia/Fran last on C5.

olivero
May 30th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Didn't think it will be so easy for Agnieszka but she was very good today. Looks optimistic for her next match against Kuzzy.

Ula on Lenglen :D

Jerem
May 30th, 2012, 08:12 PM
14 winners, 3 aces, 77% first serve, and only 6 UE's, very nice stats for a good match from her. Some lovely shots too :) Venus helped her a lot with tons of errors, though.
Her first serve was on fire, and I saw some quite good second serves as well: good news?

I still believe that with a little more power and a better second serve, she could be unplayable.

Cinek
May 30th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Go Ula and Kerber/Aga!

StoneRose
May 31st, 2012, 12:31 AM
Great match from Aga today :cheer:, in this form she should win against Kuzzy as well. That drop shot she saved, don't think i've ever seen someone run so fast on clay,marvelous.

Hope Ula takes out Petra tomorrow :devil: but that may a bit too much to hope for.

I still believe that with a little more power and a better second serve, she could be unplayable.Aga's one of the best technicians running around today. It's possible to work on the second serve but power is probably largely genetic and i don't think you can train that much in tennis.At least i've never seen a tennis player getting significantly more powerful by doing strengthening exercises.

Then again if she improves as much this year as she did last year she will be unplayable anyway powerful or not.

Malva
May 31st, 2012, 02:28 AM
Great match from Aga today :cheer:, in this form she should win against Kuzzy as well. That drop shot she saved, don't think i've ever seen someone run so fast on clay,marvelous.

Hope Ula takes out Petra tomorrow :devil: but that may a bit too much to hope for.
Aga's one of the best technicians running around today. It's possible to work on the second serve but power is probably largely genetic and i don't think you can train that much in tennis.At least i've never seen a tennis player getting significantly more powerful by doing strengthening exercises.

Then again if she improves as much this year as she did last year she will be unplayable anyway powerful or not.

A great post, as usual. Agnieszka improved greatly compared even to her best performances in the Fall. Her ability to bring her best game at crucial moments is one of the factors why the fate of the match is in her hands now more often than not. Safina, who provided an excellent live commentary to both of Agnieszka's matches at Roland Garros, is really raving about her tennis.

I am sure what you call "power" is not "genetic". Of all the things that are desirable for a top player, "power" is probably the easiest one to acquire. She is truly fortunate to have been amply equipped in the qualities which are nerly impossible to teach: the court sense, soft hands, remarkable ability to read the situation on the court, plus her fabulous body coordination.

I can imagine that in a year or two, in order to make transition to the final phase of becoming one of the tennis greats, Agnieszka herself may decide to build 'muscles' and add strength to her shots. Natural physiological processes may help this naturally to happen too. I am not saying she must do that if she 'hardens' her soft variety tennis too much, I may in fact enjoy her tennis less but I believe she can do that, she probably is already doing that to some extent. Certainly her serve is already faster without losing any precision.

Simugna Help
May 31st, 2012, 08:09 AM
I think Aga's weak groundstrokes are a combination w her light frame and the way she wired herself, ie. her technique. Pretty much any woman has more powerful strokes than Aga, even if they're more than 10cm shorter than she is. When you compare Goerges' forehand to Aga's (of course Julia is a much bigger girl), you can see she takes a much bigger swing than Aga and she adds wrist snap just before racket hits the ball, which gives tremendous racket head acceleration, thus the ball comes off with huge pace. Aga doesn't do that, probably preferring putting emphasis where the ball lands more than its speed ever since she was a little child, ie. starting going for huge groundstrokes would turn her game into shambles as careful placement is what her game is built around.

The way other players can't eliminate their deficiencies (ie. Wozniacki not able to hit flat forehands or to use slices) suggests it is very difficult to dramatically change your technique as you hit the way you are wired. Not that it's impossible, ie. Sam Stosur has shown big improvements on her backhand wing, which is a lot more dependable than it used to be.

It's good that she has managed to develop excellent technique on 1st serve, making it both relatively big and very accurate.

Caipirinha Guy
May 31st, 2012, 09:20 AM
Radber :eek: :worship:


Angieszka would be so much better. :spit:

saul1333
May 31st, 2012, 11:24 AM
1-6, 3-6 :tears:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg36/scaled.php?tn=0&server=36&filename=kmib.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg52/scaled.php?tn=0&server=52&filename=z8cs.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Aga/Kerber lose to Fran/Flav 3-6, 6-4, 6-2.

saul1333
May 31st, 2012, 05:24 PM
Aga 2nd on PC.

Cinek
May 31st, 2012, 09:26 PM
Go Aga!

rucolo
Jun 1st, 2012, 10:08 AM
Amazing win over Venus, Aga! :D:banana:

Shocking easy scoreline. Head To Head now 2-0 this year :devil:

Next Kuznetsova. Aga always has problems with her :unsure:

saul1333
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:16 PM
1-6, 2-6 :help:

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg252/scaled.php?tn=0&server=252&filename=rjk.png&xsize=640&ysize=640

Not good from Aga.

SoBizarre
Jun 1st, 2012, 01:43 PM
Ouch!

StoneRose
Jun 1st, 2012, 02:23 PM
Kuzzy played very well of course but Aga was way off today, still :hug:. 200 replies in the GM thread about it already, don't think i'll bother to read any of them :facepalm:.

olivero
Jun 1st, 2012, 03:47 PM
God I hope it won't hurt her confidence like that Bondarenko match at AO :help:

awsk8er
Jun 3rd, 2012, 11:06 AM
Kuzzy played very well of course but Aga was way off today, still :hug:. 200 replies in the GM thread about it already, don't think i'll bother to read any of them :facepalm:.

just like me, then. I cant stand the insults, and my ignore list would be too long :lol: oh well, maybe the grass season will be better.

Caipirinha Guy
Jun 3rd, 2012, 12:07 PM
Kuza today. :help: Many players raise their game to their best while playing Agnieszka...

Simugna Help
Jun 3rd, 2012, 01:25 PM
just like me, then. I cant stand the insults, and my ignore list would be too long :lol: oh well, maybe the grass season will be better.

It won't. I think older tennis players are used to losing, even taking very heavy losses. Sharapova got spanked in AO final and still has made 2 other finals and won 2 titles after that. Aga lost 60 62 in Indian Wells and went on to win Miami. Errani got demolished by Aga in Madrid and today won against Aga slayer. Accepting those losses and moving on is part of the career, the older the player the better s/he deals with them.

awsk8er
Jun 3rd, 2012, 06:47 PM
It won't. I think older tennis players are used to losing, even taking very heavy losses. Sharapova got spanked in AO final and still has made 2 other finals and won 2 titles after that. Aga lost 60 62 in Indian Wells and went on to win Miami. Errani got demolished by Aga in Madrid and today won against Aga slayer. Accepting those losses and moving on is part of the career, the older the player the better s/he deals with them.

well yes, but its better not to jinx it :p maybe she will suprise us all ;)

rucolo
Jun 6th, 2012, 06:56 PM
Very disappointing French Open for Aga :( :o

1-6 2-6 loss to Kuznetsova. Now Sexlana leads Head To Head 10-3 :eek: :help:

Weak serving. Aga got broken 7 times in this short match :rolleyes: