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fnc
May 19th, 2012, 09:04 AM
Just appeared on twitter, Serena pulls out with a lower back injury. Press conference at 1130am.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 09:06 AM
What?

frenchie
May 19th, 2012, 09:06 AM
oh no

I was waiting for this match!

Get better for RG

sammy01
May 19th, 2012, 09:06 AM
dedicated to those who told me rena wouldn't tank rome. i said it would be in the qtrs vs aga but she had flav who retired on her so she couldn't even retire lol

rena has had more than enough matches on clay she wants to get to RG already. shame for the tournament though

Shonami Slam
May 19th, 2012, 09:06 AM
sharapova will probably go tattle-tale in twitter that she saw rena pick up her luggage....

ElusiveChanteuse
May 19th, 2012, 09:07 AM
NID.:lol:
Na in final.:cheer:
Hopefully against Masha.:devil:

Rerun
May 19th, 2012, 09:07 AM
sharapova will probably go tattle-tale in twitter that she saw rena pick up her luggage....

wouldnt be so unrealistic though :lol:

kfh_9118
May 19th, 2012, 09:08 AM
:mad:

looking forward to watch this match.
But great for Li Na :bounce:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 09:08 AM
dedicated to those who told me rena wouldn't tank rome. i said it would be in the qtrs vs aga but she had flav who retired on her so she couldn't even retire lol

rena has had more than enough matches on clay she wants to get to RG already. shame for the tournament though

That's not a tank if you ask me, Na Li had all the chances to beat her.

Reptilia
May 19th, 2012, 09:09 AM
:rolleyes:

Andy.
May 19th, 2012, 09:10 AM
:rolleyes: was looking forward to this match.

flareon
May 19th, 2012, 09:10 AM
watch as kerber wins rome now...

Vuvurenka
May 19th, 2012, 09:10 AM
Good decision ReeRee, you've played enough so far so please rest up for RG and do your best there :yeah:

Li :cheer: please win the final regardless who your opponent is :)

Cherry.
May 19th, 2012, 09:10 AM
What? :facepalm:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 09:11 AM
:rolleyes: was looking forward to this match.

And the one over Maria maybe, Serena is really annoying sometimes.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 09:13 AM
:facepalm:.

Well a Li Na-Maria final would be decent to end this tournament with then :shrug:.

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 09:13 AM
A shame, hoping she's not actually injured as I'm 90% sure. An actual back injury is no joke for a tennis player, and we all know what happened last time Serena said she was injured and everyone gave the "Ugh, part timer! :rolleyes:" response. So in the case this was just a tank, rest up for RG :inlove:

JRena
May 19th, 2012, 09:14 AM
Aww I was staying up to watch the match. I think it's good, she didn't need to win Rome and Madrid.

LindsayRulz
May 19th, 2012, 09:15 AM
Wise decision.

doktor
May 19th, 2012, 09:19 AM
I can't believe it took her this long to be honest.

networthy
May 19th, 2012, 09:19 AM
Ugh--so much drama from Serena. Enough. I can't wait until she retires for good from the sport.

Wozzilroy
May 19th, 2012, 09:21 AM
Twitter!? Why don't the player just tell us in person!?

Also too, I am correct yet again. In another thread on this match, I state the would be 'drama'.

Vuvurenka
May 19th, 2012, 09:22 AM
Ugh--so much drama from Serena. Enough. I can't wait until she retires for good from the sport.

What drama, may I say from a walkover? :rolleyes: Other players do that and it's a "wise decision", Serena does it and she gets bashed for "denying good matches" or "being bad for the sport". At least try to keep the double standards less obvious.

Rerun
May 19th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Wise decision.


why so? a committment is a committment.
Hope she will ricover anyway

TheItalianStyle
May 19th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Another shame for the tournament, that's just too bad again for the womens' tennis credibility. If players don't give a shit even about a big and nice tournament as Rome is, then you cannot complain when no one cares about the wta tour.

Viennalover
May 19th, 2012, 09:23 AM
As expected, period.... :rolleyes:

SoClose
May 19th, 2012, 09:25 AM
Wise decision Rena :yeah: Rest up for RG!

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 09:26 AM
Wise decision, no need to aggravate the pain (she did look dead tired and in pain in some of her matches). The next few months are going to be HUGE for every tennis player. She has been saying in her press conferences on how tired she is and was having to deal with a lot of aches and pains due to some continuous match play.

TheBoiledEgg
May 19th, 2012, 09:29 AM
dedicated to those who told me rena wouldn't tank rome. i said it would be in the qtrs vs aga but she had flav who retired on her so she couldn't even retire lol

rena has had more than enough matches on clay she wants to get to RG already. shame for the tournament though

Double standards from u as always

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 09:30 AM
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes: was looking forward to this match.

What? :facepalm:

And the one over Maria maybe, Serena is really annoying sometimes.

Why are y'all so pressed? Maria has a chance to defend her title now. Be happy. :lol:
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Big_Banana
May 19th, 2012, 09:32 AM
friends with benefits :oh:

nevetssllim
May 19th, 2012, 09:33 AM
Serena has more than enough match practice and there's no point pushing the envelope if she's struggling with a few niggles.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 09:33 AM
She had a chance even with Serena in the draw.
But this is always the same story with Serena she doesn't feel at her best so she retires well guess what this is the same for others players but they continue to play. Like I said players can't get chances against her cause she makes sure to play them when she is at 100%.
This is annoying I want to see matches FFS.

Miracle Worker
May 19th, 2012, 09:34 AM
:facepalm:

Dado90
May 19th, 2012, 09:35 AM
FUCK YOU RENA :sad: :fiery: poor Flavia :awww:

Trickle
May 19th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Kind of expected. She's comfortable with the match practice she's had I guess.

Li Na statement:

Li Na: "Of course I'm happy to reach the final but I don't like winning like that. I am so sorry for Serena and hope she gets healthy."

Li Na: "When I was warming up this morning, I was really looking forward to playing against one of the best players ever."

Lachy
May 19th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Shame, as I believed this would have been a good match with Na taking quite a big scalp in Serena. Would have been a really good confidence builder for Na going into the FO. Nevertheless, she's in the final and I couldn't be happier :)

I think Serena's fine, not too surprised since she kinda dodged around the question regarding Azarenka's retirement in her interview the other day. I'm sure she'll be fine and good to go for the FO.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 09:37 AM
Serena always makes sure not to face any decent opponent when she's not 100% ready :facepalm:.

lee station
May 19th, 2012, 09:39 AM
no match but if there's injury is better to rest :cat:

sammy01
May 19th, 2012, 09:40 AM
Double standards from u as always

why? did i say it was good serena pulled out? at least serena has the sense to not pull out 5 mins after she beat flav making it look more suspicious and wont be bitching on twitter how hard done by she is. if serena was injured before the tournament started she wouldn't have even started it.

stromatolite
May 19th, 2012, 09:41 AM
Expected, but nonetheless depressing. They really need to do something about these cynical withdrawals, they're unfair to the other players and to the fans. Serena's withdrawal is not as shameful as Vika's (she went to Rome for matches, not points, and at least stuck it out for a few rounds), but it still fucks up the already lopsided draw. Players who enter a tournament with no intention of going the distance are spoiling it for everybody else.

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 09:41 AM
Serena always makes sure not to face any decent opponent when she's not 100% ready :facepalm:.

Where did this myth come from? Sharapova fans making up excuses for her not being able to beat Serena in eight years??

Serena played the entire AO 2010 being injured in several different places and half mummified, and still beat top players like Azarenka/Na/Henin. Ended up having to withdraw from the next several tournaments as a result.

She played Justine at Wimbledon despite suffering that horrific injury in the previous match. Ended up sacrificing the USO series as a result.

In her AO 2007 matches she was not even 50% read, was unfit and had a painful blister on her foot.

In the Miami 2009 final, she could barely move, yet she continued to play. For the mistake her entire clay court season was destroyed.

These are just some of the instances where Serena has played top players despite begin severely hampered by injuries. And I could go on and on...

Serena is almost 31, and the body doesnt heal as fast when you are having to play 11 matches in two weeks. Unlike the other players, she doesnt didn't get a bye in Rome, so had no rest day. Why should she aggrevate her injury, on the eve of a slam, just because you wanted to see another sharapova demolition in the final?

GoofyDuck
May 19th, 2012, 09:42 AM
Is her last name Jankovic? Uh - Azarenka?

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 09:42 AM
Good luck in the final, Na. The world will be rooting for you, girl!
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Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 09:45 AM
Where did this myth come from? Sharapova fans making up excuses for her not being able to beat Serena in eight years??

Serena played the entire AO 2010 being injured and half mummified, against top players like Azarenka/Na/Henin.

She played Justine at Wimbledon despite suffering that horrific injury in the previous match.

A lot of her AO 2007 matches she played were when she was not even 50% read and had a painful blister on her foot.


Serena is almost 31, and the body doesnt heal as fast when you are having to play 11 matches in two weeks. Unlike the other players, she doesnt didn't get a bye in Rome, so had no rest day. Why should she aggrevate her injury, on the eve of a slam, just because you wanted to see another sharapova demolition in the final?They've convinced themselves that Maria loses because she doesn't have enough practice against Lordrena, so they want more and more demolitions. :lol: They're such masochists. They are madder about this walkover than we are. :lol:

Slutiana
May 19th, 2012, 09:47 AM
You're all idiots. Is it really that hard to believe that she was actually injured? Even a tiny niggle in the back is worrisome for a tennis player, and it would be idiotic for her to play on it with 4 major events over the next few months.

If she was going to withdraw or Tank for the sake of it (as people here seem to think she does every other event), she would've done so at the start of the event. Not when there are two matches left.

FUCK YOU RENA :sad: :fiery: poor Flavia :awww:
What do you mean "poor Flavia?" The woman wasn't fit enough to play five games yesterday. :lol: She wasn't robbed of anything.

TheItalianStyle
May 19th, 2012, 09:47 AM
She basically said: "I am 100% fine, but i have a huge schedule and don't give a fuck about Rome"

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 09:48 AM
Where did this myth come from? Sharapova fans making up excuses for her not being able to beat Serena in eight years??

Serena played the entire AO 2010 being injured and half mummified, against top players like Azarenka/Na/Henin.

She played Justine at Wimbledon despite suffering that horrific injury in the previous match.

A lot of her AO 2007 matches she played were when she was not even 50% read and had a painful blister on her foot.

I could go on and on...

Serena is almost 31, and the body doesnt heal as fast when you are having to play 11 matches in two weeks. Unlike the other players, she doesnt didn't get a bye in Rome, so had no rest day. Why should she aggrevate her injury, on the eve of a slam, just because you wanted to see another sharapova demolition in the final?

It's not our fault if you don't care about matches we have the right to want them facing each other is it really so hard to understand ? And yes Serena sometimes makes sure to play when she is feeling well, all players have to deal with physical problems but they're still playing if it's really serious I can understand a withdrawal bu lets be honest yesterday she was talking about playin Na and suddenly she retires :help:
Do you really believes in that low back injury ?

killerqueen
May 19th, 2012, 09:48 AM
And I was getting so excited to make some sort of "she won Rome & Madrid" joke. :(

Miracle Worker
May 19th, 2012, 09:48 AM
I see no difference between Serena's walkover and Victoria now. They both did the same thing.

SerenaMJ
May 19th, 2012, 09:49 AM
Wise decision, to be honest I expected her to withdraw after the 2nd round when she was already in pain. Get well soon. RG is so much more important!

Svetlana)))
May 19th, 2012, 09:50 AM
Strategic move babygurl :hearts:

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 09:50 AM
She had a chance even with Serena in the draw.
But this is always the same story with Serena she doesn't feel at her best so she retires well guess what this is the same for others players but they continue to play. Like I said players can't get chances against her cause she makes sure to play them when she is at 100%.
This is annoying I want to see matches FFS.

It's really a shame that you have to hope your fave will run into Serena with a lower back strain, just so that she can finally get a win. It's not her duty to play herself into inactivity on the eve of a slam, just so that YOUR faves can manage to scrape a win out against her. And of course, when someone points out she's injured you'll give the "if you show up you're clearly not that injured!" routine like they always do. It's a catch 22.

And seriously guys, stop trying to overcompensate. From the viewpoint of someone whose fave has lost the last 6 or 7 matches in a row against someone, I'd be happy she was out of the draw. Stop pretending like you guys are ~SO UpSET!!1~ that they won't meet in the final. Maria now has a huge chance to defend the biggest title currently on her ranking, that's a great thing for her and her fans :hug:

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 09:50 AM
It's not our fault if you don't care about matches we have the right to want them facing each other is it really so hard to understand ? :

We don't have the right to anything.


And yes Serena sometimes makes sure to play when she is feeling well, all players have to deal with physical problems but they're still playing if it's really serious I can understand a withdrawal bu lets be honest yesterday she was talking about playin Na and suddenly she retires :help

As shown by the instances i have mentioned, these weren't just normal aches and pains, they were some bad injuries she has played through, so the statement that she only plays top players when she is fit is false.

But you are free to delude yourself and find a reason for Sharapova not being able to beat Serena in eight years. Serena has been at the end of many more tournaments than Sharapova has, so there have been more instances of Sharapova failing to reach Serena than Vice-a-versa.

Lachy
May 19th, 2012, 09:51 AM
They've convinced themselves that Maria loses because she doesn't have enough practice against Lordrena, so they want more and more demolitions. :lol: They're such masochists. They are madder about this walkover than we are. :lol:

To be honest, a lot of Masha fans want another match-up with Serena because she's the best right now. She's the one to beat. She is setting the standard. Your comments are outright ridiculous. We don't 'want another demolition,' we want more matches against the best so Mash can figure out a way, which she will, to get the win. So stop trying to start crap that aint there. Thanks. :wavey:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 09:54 AM
It's really a shame that you have to hope your fave will run into Serena with a lower back strain, just so that she can finally get a win. It's not her duty to play herself into inactivity on the eve of a slam, just so that YOUR faves can manage to scrape a win out against her. And of course, when someone points out she's injured you'll give the "if you show up you're clearly not that injured!" routine like they always do. It's a catch 22.

And seriously guys, stop trying to overcompensate. From the viewpoint of someone whose fave has lost the last 6 or 7 matches in a row against someone, I'd be happy she was out of the draw. Stop pretending like you guys are ~SO UpSET!!1~ that they won't meet in the final. Maria now has a huge chance to defend the biggest title currently on her ranking, that's a great thing for her and her fans :hug:

So you really believe in that lower back injury :lol: there is no need waste my time with you, Serena feels alright.

stromatolite
May 19th, 2012, 09:54 AM
You're all idiots. Is it really that hard to believe that she was actually injured? Even a tiny niggle in the back is worrisome for a tennis player, and it would be idiotic for her to play on it with 4 major events over the next few months.

If she was going to withdraw or Tank for the sake of it (as people here seem to think she does every other event), she would've done it at the start of the event. Not when there are two matches left.


Are you really this naive or are you just faking it? 95% of posters, including most Serena fans, confidently predicted that Serena wouldn't go the distance in Rome after she reached the Madrid final. The only reason anybody expected her to even play in Rome at all was because she needed matches on red clay, but even then everybody expected her to tank after a few matches. That is exactly what happened. She had absolutely nothing to gain by playing the last 2 matches, because any extra points gained would be outweighed by the unwanted extra burden of playing more matches than she likes to ahead of a slam.

SerenaMJ
May 19th, 2012, 09:54 AM
Where did this myth come from? Sharapova fans making up excuses for her not being able to beat Serena in eight years??

Serena played the entire AO 2010 being injured in several different places and half mummified, and still beat top players like Azarenka/Na/Henin. Ended up having to withdraw from the next several tournaments as a result.

She played Justine at Wimbledon despite suffering that horrific injury in the previous match. Ended up sacrificing the USO series as a result.

In her AO 2007 matches she was not even 50% read, was unfit and had a painful blister on her foot.

In the Miami 2009 final, she could barely move, yet she continued to play. For the mistake her entire clay court season was destroyed.

These are just some of the instances where Serena has played top players despite begin severely hampered by injuries. And I could go on and on...

Serena is almost 31, and the body doesnt heal as fast when you are having to play 11 matches in two weeks. Unlike the other players, she doesnt didn't get a bye in Rome, so had no rest day. Why should she aggrevate her injury, on the eve of a slam, just because you wanted to see another sharapova demolition in the final?

Thank you for saying that. I guess Sharapova fans counted on another YEC type of match where Serena loses to Sharapova because she is injured. And if someone doesn't think she had a problem in her back, then well whatever. She was clearly in pain at her match with Petrova, heck, to me she wasn't within herself even during her 1st round match, so I am glad she withdrew. As much as I wanted her to play and win this, I am glad she made the decision to withdraw.

FORZA SARITA
May 19th, 2012, 09:54 AM
seriously, Serena?:weirdo:

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 09:56 AM
It's not our fault if you don't care about matches we have the right to want them facing each other is it really so hard to understand ? And yes Serena sometimes makes sure to play when she is feeling well, all players have to deal with physical problems but they're still playing if it's really serious I can understand a withdrawal bu lets be honest yesterday she was talking about playin Na and suddenly she retires :help:
Do you really believes in that low back injury ?

No one believed she had a foot injury after 2010 Wimbledon. The reactions in the thread looked exactly like this, worse even. Since you're NOT Serena, you can't feel what she's going through. All we have to go by is that she was taking pills on court a couple of days ago, and has been looking pained/wincing at times.

And I was getting so excited to make some sort of "she won Rome & Madrid" joke. :(

Technically you still can, she won 02 Rome :hug:

Andy.
May 19th, 2012, 09:56 AM
To be honest, a lot of Masha fans want another match-up with Serena because she's the best right now. She's the one to beat. She is setting the standard. Your comments are outright ridiculous. We don't 'want another demolition,' we want more matches against the best so Mash can figure out a way, which she will, to get the win. So stop trying to start crap that aint there. Thanks. :wavey:
No point trying to reason with them/have a meaningful discussion. It wont get you anywhere.

Dado90
May 19th, 2012, 09:58 AM
I see no difference between Serena's walkover and Victoria now. They both did the same thing.

This. Exactly. WTA at its peak :o

Material World
May 19th, 2012, 09:59 AM
Expected, but nonetheless depressing. They really need to do something about these cynical withdrawals, they're unfair to the other players and to the fans. Serena's withdrawal is not as shameful as Vika's (she went to Rome for matches, not points, and at least stuck it out for a few rounds), but it still fucks up the already lopsided draw. Players who enter a tournament with no intention of going the distance are spoiling it for everybody else.

This.....

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:00 AM
^ Do AO 2012, Miami 2012 and now Rome ring a bell to you. In all these tournaments Maria was about to face Rena and Rena ended up losing to her lesser colleagues a round before having to face Masha :shrug:.

Lulu.
May 19th, 2012, 10:00 AM
Rest up Ree. See you in Paris. ;)

Dado90
May 19th, 2012, 10:01 AM
What do you mean "poor Flavia?" The woman wasn't fit enough to play five games yesterday. :lol: She wasn't robbed of anything.

I mean that if Rena wanted preserve her physic from eventual injuries and tank Rome, she could do that before meeting Flavia. Pennetta is so damn damn damn damn unlucky, because she played (even if only 4 games) with the only player able to hit shots as a man...so the strenght of Serena's shots wasn't so positive for a half-recovered wrist, isn't it? :scratch:

Rest Maria!
May 19th, 2012, 10:02 AM
Now 3rd match Kerber vs Na this year pls, it's been developing into an interesting rivalry. :devil:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:02 AM
We don't have the right to anything.




As shown by the instances i have mentioned, these weren't just normal aches and pains, they were some bad injuries she has played through, so the statement that she only plays top players when she is fit is false.

But you are free to delude yourself and find a reason for Sharapova not being able to beat Serena in eight years. Serena has been at the end of many more tournaments than Sharapova has, so there have been more instances of Sharapova failing to reach Serena than Vice-a-versa.

This is not the problem here. Serena didn't mention anything after playing 4 games against Pennetta and now she is talking about an injury I hardly believes this that's all and I'm not the only one.

TheBoiledEgg
May 19th, 2012, 10:02 AM
Serena saying she's felt a pain in her back all week
But withdrew today.

SilverPersian
May 19th, 2012, 10:02 AM
Congrats to NaNa for getting to the final :cheer:

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:03 AM
To be honest, a lot of Masha fans want another match-up with Serena because she's the best right now. She's the one to beat. She is setting the standard. Your comments are outright ridiculous. We don't 'want another demolition,' we want more matches against the best so Mash can figure out a way, which she will, to get the win. So stop trying to start crap that aint there. Thanks. :wavey:I just don't understand why you all are seething. Maria is about to defend her title through the path of least resistance. Stop being obsessed with Serena and praying for that one more win - Serena has not been the one standing in her way in her most recent failures. She needs to work on her overall game and mentality - not just her matchup vs Serena.

Serena fans are the ones who are truly disappointed, but we are particularly concerned with Serena being healthy for Roland Garros, Wimbledon, and the Olympics. Playing yet another match against Sharapova doesn't really help towards those objectives, so I'm sure you can understand why we tend to be so dismissive about this.

DragonFlame
May 19th, 2012, 10:04 AM
:o Damn it.

pesto
May 19th, 2012, 10:08 AM
And I was getting so excited to make some sort of "she won Rome & Madrid" joke. :(

I was expecting GM to explode with GIFs, if it happened.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:08 AM
I just don't understand why you all are seething. Maria is about to defend her title through the path of least resistance. Stop being obsessed with Serena and praying for that one more win - Serena has not been the one standing in her way in her most recent failures. She needs to work on her overall game and mentality - not just her matchup vs Serena.

Serena fans are the ones who are truly disappointed, but we are particularly concerned with Serena being healthy for Roland Garros, Wimbledon, and the Olympics. Playing yet another match against Sharapova doesn't really help towards those objectives, so I'm sure you can understand why we tend to be so dismissive about this.

:lol::lol::lol: stop with this shit. You're all here talking about cakewalk draws all day long but today it's not a problem :lol: you guys are really something.
And considering Serena won Charleston and Madrid and is one the faves for the French as well, I really believe that another match against her was worth it.

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:09 AM
I mean that if Rena wanted preserve her physic from eventual injuries and tank Rome, she could do that before meeting Flavia. Pennetta is so damn damn damn damn unlucky, because she played (even if only 4 games) with the only player able to hit shots as a man...so the strenght of Serena's shots wasn't so positive for a half-recovered wrist, isn't it? :scratch:Oh, get over it.
Flavia was not fit, what would one more round have done for her? :lol:

MAGIKARPETTA
May 19th, 2012, 10:09 AM
“@enricomariariva: Serena Williams saying that she is basically fine but wants to make sure to be 100% for Roland Garros” Clearly.
:facepalm: :weirdo:

homogenius
May 19th, 2012, 10:11 AM
she was simply afraid of playing Na.I can't blame her :shrug:

BuTtErFrEnA
May 19th, 2012, 10:11 AM
good :)

TheHangover
May 19th, 2012, 10:13 AM
poor flavia she is really so unlucky, we could have had a maria-flavia final (not that Li is easy to beat, but potentially), it would have been a huuuge advertising for italian tennis

TheHangover
May 19th, 2012, 10:13 AM
^^ here in italy i mean

BuTtErFrEnA
May 19th, 2012, 10:13 AM
weren't these same martha stans lauding their saviour for slamming vika and saying health comes first for a champ not points :spit: now serena withdraws for her health and it's not good for the tour :happy:

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 10:13 AM
^ Do AO 2012, Miami 2012 and now Rome ring a bell to you. In all these tournaments Maria was about to face Rena and Rena ended up losing to her lesser colleagues a round before having to face Masha :shrug:.

Oh so because she lost that means she tanked so as to not face Maria? Let me see then..

And what about Toronto 2011, USO 2011 where Martha lost to inferior opponents before reaching Serena? :shrug: it works both the ways, and as Serena has been in the final stages of tournaments far more times than Maria has, it works in Serena's favour even more.

Dado90
May 19th, 2012, 10:14 AM
Oh, get over it.
Flavia was not fit, what would one more round have done for her? :lol:

I could reply the same question regards Rena :rolls: :oh:

Just Do It
May 19th, 2012, 10:15 AM
This is bullshit, really.

FORZA SARITA
May 19th, 2012, 10:15 AM
“@enricomariariva: Serena Williams saying that she is basically fine but wants to make sure to be 100% for Roland Garros” Clearly.
:facepalm: :weirdo:

:haha:

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:15 AM
:lol::lol::lol: stop with this shit. You're all here talking about cakewalk draws all day long but today it's not a problem :lol: you guys are really something.
And considering Serena won Charleston and Madrid and is one the faves for the French as well, I really believe that another match against her was worth it.I'm not mad about cakewalk draws - I was happy when Caro and Vika fell out of Serena's half. :lol: I said phew, now Serena can make it through the tournament without having to face those top players. But thats because I want Serena to win big titles, I'm not obsessed with Serena facing/beating 1 particular player at all costs. ;)

Lachy
May 19th, 2012, 10:16 AM
I just don't understand why you all are seething. Maria is about to defend her title through the path of least resistance. Stop being obsessed with Serena and praying for that one more win - Serena has not been the one standing in her way in her most recent failures. She needs to work on her overall game and mentality - not just her matchup vs Serena.

Serena fans are the ones who are truly disappointed, but we are particularly concerned with Serena being healthy for Roland Garros, Wimbledon, and the Olympics. Playing yet another match against Sharapova doesn't really help towards those objectives, so I'm sure you can understand why we tend to be so dismissive about this.

Because let's say Maria somehow wins her next match and then the tournament. It'll be because Serena withdrew, Serena let her have this one, 'Lordrena or whatever left this tournament to the scrubs'. :tape: So forgive me for trying to avoid the torrent of rubbish and meaningless posts Williams stans will be spraying all over the place if Maria does happen to win this event. Go on, tell me I'm wrong - and the second sentence I highlighted of yours damn well proves that I'm not.

Slutiana
May 19th, 2012, 10:18 AM
“@enricomariariva: Serena Williams saying that she is basically fine but wants to make sure to be 100% for Roland Garros” Clearly.
:facepalm: :weirdo:
She said "No, look, I'm fine. I got a good week to get better. I gotta be confident that I'll be 100%." which is... slightly different.

Marilyn Monheaux
May 19th, 2012, 10:19 AM
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doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:19 AM
She said "No, look, I'm fine. I got a good week to get better. I gotta be confident that I'll be 100%." which is... slightly different.

:rolleyes:

MarkNL
May 19th, 2012, 10:19 AM
Shocking :eek:
Rena :hug:

Hopefully Li will win the title :rocker2:

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 10:20 AM
Because let's say Maria somehow wins her next match and then the tournament. It'll be because Serena withdrew, Serena let her have this one, 'Lordrena or whatever left this tournament to the scrubs'. :tape: So forgive me for trying to avoid the torrent of rubbish and meaningless posts Williams stans will be spraying all over the place if Maria does happen to win this event. Go on, tell me I'm wrong - and the second sentence I highlighted of yours damn well proves that I'm not.

Maybe you should stop worrying about what people on a message board say, and just worry about what your fave will accomplish. Like LBV, I was incredibly happy to see the pusher trio fall out of Serena's half, even at the risk of people saying she got an easy draw(and they did.) Your first priority should be your fave winning.

LightWarrior
May 19th, 2012, 10:20 AM
Expected. She caught this lower back injury during the Petrova match. I'm actually surprised that she didn't withdraw earlier in the tournament. Probably not a serious injury though.

Lachy
May 19th, 2012, 10:21 AM
Maybe you should stop worrying about what people on a message board say, and just worry about what your fave will accomplish. Like LBV, I was incredibly happy to see the pusher trio fall out of Serena's half, even at the risk of people saying she got an easy draw(and they did.) Your first priority should be your fave winning.

Absolutely. And it is. But we don't need any discrediting from here on. Whoever wins this event deserves it.

TheItalianStyle
May 19th, 2012, 10:22 AM
I love Serena because of the way she plays, but, again, I have to say every single player in the world has light pains, problems and everything. Once you reach the semifinal is just rude to withdraw when you have nothing, because we all know she will be a 100% fine for Rg. And seeing how well she was playing whole week, I will believe her even less.

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:22 AM
Because let's say Maria somehow wins her next match and then the tournament. It'll be because Serena withdrew, Serena let her have this one, 'Lordrena or whatever left this tournament to the scrubs'. :tape: So forgive me for trying to avoid the torrent of rubbish and meaningless posts Williams stans will be spraying all over the place if Maria does happen to win this event. Go on, tell me I'm wrong - and the second sentence I highlighted of yours damn well proves that I'm not.Like I just told doomsday, I was happy when my Serena's half of the draw fell apart, because it meant she had a better chance of winning the title! :lol: If I was a Maria fan, I'd be saying the same thing, "yay, Serena is gone. Now Maria has a better shot at taking home the title". Not whining and rolling my eyes. Yall are so obsessed with her beating Serena, that you're missing the bigger picture about what these women play for. :lol:

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:23 AM
Oh so because she lost that means she tanked so as to not face Maria? Let me see then..

And what about Toronto 2011, USO 2011 where Martha lost to inferior opponents before reaching Serena? :shrug: it works both the ways, and as Serena has been in the final stages of tournaments far more times than Maria has, it works in Serena's favour even more.

Serena was the big favorite going into the AO and she lost to Makarova :facepalm:. Also in Miami Serena was considered as the favorite to win the title and she lost to Wozniacki. Let's count Toronto 2009 as well when she lost to Dementieva playing like shit avoiding Maria in the final.

And many other times when she lost a round prior to facing Maria :shrug:.

Maria never did that, even thought she played crap in the previous rounds she managed to win knowing that Serena is waiting for her :shrug:, Stanford 2011, Wimbledon 2010, Miami 2007 :shrug:.

* Can you please give me more info regarding USO 2011 and Toronto 2011??!? Did Maria lose a round prior to facing Serena?

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Absolutely. And it is. But we don't need any discrediting from here on. Whoever wins this event deserves it.No doubt. :yeah:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:26 AM
And Faboozadoo says I'm the obsessed one?! Look all the Masha-tards going at it here...Serena vs Li, yet it's all about Maria this, Maria that.

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:27 AM
Serena was the big favorite going into the AO and she lost to Makarova :facepalm:. Also in Miami Serena was considered as the favorite to win the title and she lost to Wozniacki. Let's count Toronto 2009 as well when she lost to Dementieva playing like shit avoiding Maria in the final.

And many other times when she lost a round prior to facing Maria :shrug:.

Maria never did that, even thought she played crap in the previous rounds she managed to win knowing that Serena is waiting for her :shrug:, Stanford 2011, Wimbledon 2010, Miami 2007 :shrug:.

* Can you please give me more info regarding USO 2011 and Toronto 2011??!? Did Maria lose a round prior to facing Serena?So Serena intentionally loses in the round before Maria, so as not to face her? :lol:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:28 AM
* Can you please give me more info regarding USO 2011 and Toronto 2011??!? Did Maria lose a round prior to facing Serena?

Not one, several...:lol:

Anyways, what's with the obsession?! 8-2 is 8-2..isn't that enough yet? You wanted it to be 12-2 or worse?! Just accept it: Maria's Serena's pigeon and deal with it.

Lachy
May 19th, 2012, 10:28 AM
Like I just told doomsday, I was happy when my Serena's half of the draw fell apart, because it meant she had a better chance of winning the title! :lol: If I was a Maria fan, I'd be saying the same thing, "yay, Serena is gone. Now Maria has a better shot at taking home the title". Not whining and rolling my eyes. Yall are so obsessed with her beating Serena, that you're missing the bigger picture about what these women play for. :lol:

Of course I want her to win this tournament any way possible. But I also wanted another matchup with Serena because to be the best you gotta beat the best. I fail to understand how that in any way is offensive or a payout against Serena. It's a compliment :lol: Why is it not ok for Maria fans to be disappointed with her withdrawal for the reason of wanting another match and opportunity to beat her in a final?

Nevertheless, Serena is out and time to move on, but still this shouldn't have even been an issue.

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 10:29 AM
Serena was the big favorite going into the AO and she lost to Makarova :facepalm:. Also in Miami Serena was considered as the favorite to win the title and she lost to Wozniacki. Let's count Toronto 2009 as well when she lost to Dementieva playing like shit avoiding Maria in the final.

She was a favorite based on credentials, not on form. I'm not even going to BOTHER mentioning her ankle sprain in Brisbane, because you're smarter than that. You know fully well about that, you just choose not to acknowledge it as it doesn't suit your agenda.

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 10:29 AM
Serena was the big favorite going into the AO and she lost to Makarova :facepalm:. Also in Miami Serena was considered as the favorite to win the title and she lost to Wozniacki. Let's count Toronto 2009 as well when she lost to Dementieva playing like shit avoiding Maria in the final.

And many other times when she lost a round prior to facing Maria :shrug:.

Maria never did that, even thought she played crap in the previous rounds she managed to win knowing that Serena is waiting for her :shrug:, Stanford 2011, Wimbledon 2010, Miami 2007 :shrug:.

Serena lost because she was injured and her opponent was the better player, it had nothing to do with Maria.. and Toronto 2009?

Then let me then bring up Wimbledon 2008, Wimbledon 2009, AO 2010 along witht those USO 2011 and toronto 2011 tournaments:shrug: Serena losing to an opponent has nothing to do with Maria waiting for, Maria is an easier opponent for Serena than some of the lower ranked players.



As I told doomsday, you are free to delude yourself into thinking that the only reason that Maria can't beat Serena is because she never faces an injured Serena :lol: How depressing.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:29 AM
So Serena intentionally loses in the round before Maria, so as not to face her? :lol:

As crazy as it sounds I really believe that Serena hates losing to Maria so much that when she feels she isn't 100% healthy and ready to beat her she ends up losing a round prior to facing her :shrug:.

That is my opinion :angel:.

JamieMU30
May 19th, 2012, 10:30 AM
Serena would have crushed Sharapova in the final anyways...Its too predictable by now...Serena has a real chance to win the French, so why fuck it up now? If Maria can even make it far in Paris, she will get her chance to be humiliated again, Im sure...Good for Li...Its better to have different names in the final...The tired ass Vika-Aga and Rena-Masha beatdowns are getting boring...If Serena pulled out, so what of it? Count all the women and men who withdrew this week from a tourney or withdrew next week from a tourney to rest up for the French...Serena isnt the only one...Any player, male or female, who wants a real chance to go deep at a GS makes sure they have enough rest and are fit and healthy before a slam starts...If not, whats the point of playing? The whole point of these clay tourneys is to get match practice on clay...Serena has gotten hers and moved on...What of it? And Flavia getting robbed? LOL...That bitch was way too injured to continue on in Rome; a complete non factor here...Serena plays Masha on her own dime, so if Rena aint up for it, she aint up for it...Let Masha wait her turn like all the other mignons...Serena isnt going to get Masha any special treatment just because Masha fans yearn to see her get pulverized into bits...Rest up Rena and snatch all 7 bitches wigs at the French

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:31 AM
She had a chance even with Serena in the draw.
But this is always the same story with Serena she doesn't feel at her best so she retires well guess what this is the same for others players but they continue to play. Like I said players can't get chances against her cause she makes sure to play them when she is at 100%.
This is annoying I want to see matches FFS.

What's with the Masha-tards these days?! Stop talking about Serena..your fav has enough worries, even with Serena out of the draw.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:32 AM
Serena lost because she was injured and her opponent was the better player, it had nothing to do with Maria.. and Toronto 2009?

Then let me then bring up Wimbledon 2008, Wimbledon 2009, AO 2010 :shrug: Serena losing to an opponent has nothing to do with Maria waiting for, Maria is an easier opponent for Serena than some of the lower ranked players.

Whats up with Wimbledon 2008/2009 and AO 2010, what's there to bring up:scratch:?

I'm not questioning the fact that Serena is a much more complete player than Maria is mainly because of her serve but my point here is that she hates losing to Maria so much that she prefers losing a round prior knowing that she's not 100% fit to face her rather than losing against the above mentioned :shrug:.

Kon.
May 19th, 2012, 10:33 AM
I love how all were waiting from round to round for this (w/o, retirement, tank) to happen. Yep, nid. Serena winning Madrid and Rome back to back would sound so wrong. :lol:

Bronx19
May 19th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Christ, Li should never be in a final.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:34 AM
She was a favorite based on credentials, not on form. I'm not even going to BOTHER mentioning her ankle sprain in Brisbane, because you're smarter than that. You know fully well about that, you just choose not to acknowledge it as it doesn't suit your agenda.

I am aware that she sprained her ankle in Brisbane but tell me this, how many games did she lose before going to face Makarova in the fourth round?

She showed good form when winning her first second and third rounds :shrug:. So don't pull up the Ankle card here Ok. Maria had a much tougher ankle condition to deal with and she still managed to reach the finals .

Zweli
May 19th, 2012, 10:35 AM
Maria might be pinching herself now .Great chance to defend her title , but I guess Kerber will have some ideas

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:35 AM
Not one, several...:lol:

Anyways, what's with the obsession?! 8-2 is 8-2..isn't that enough yet? You wanted it to be 12-2 or worse?! Just accept it: Maria's Serena's pigeon and deal with it.

I know, I'm not trying to change the fact that Serena has such a lead in their head to heads, all I'm saying is that Serena always tends to avoid facing Maria when she knows that she's not 100% fit to face her :shrug:.

Shiffrin
May 19th, 2012, 10:35 AM
I was actually expecting it way before the semis :lol:

It would be hilarious though if she won Rome&Madrid. :awww:

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 10:35 AM
As crazy as it sounds I really believe that Serena hates losing to Maria so much that when she feels she isn't 100% healthy and ready to beat her she ends up losing a round prior to facing her :shrug:.

That is my opinion :angel:.

Well if you believe that, that's just your first problem. Besides, I thought the consensus among most Mashabators was that Serena hates Maria and turns into GOAT mode when playing her. In that case, would her form leading up to their match even matter? BTW, in the 2007 AO Serena was obese, nearly got routined by Petrova, 2 pts away from losing to Peer(one of the worst players to ever break the top 20) etc. She could have easily netted two returns at that point, knowing a likely showdown with #1 seed Maria was looming if she was afraid of her :shrug: That's the worst form Serena has ever seemed to be in compared to Maria, and we all know what eventually happened in the final.

Mistress of Evil
May 19th, 2012, 10:36 AM
Thank you, LordRena! :hearts: Now your bitch has a shot at the title( don't you dare fuck this up Martha :mad:).
She did reach the semis so I genuinely believe that Serena was indeed gunning for another title since she did put a considerate effort but of course self-preservation comes first.
The one bad thing that comes from this is that according to WTA, now her streak is finished, statistics wise. :(

She had a chance even with Serena in the draw.
But this is always the same story with Serena she doesn't feel at her best so she retires well guess what this is the same for others players but they continue to play. Like I said players can't get chances against her cause she makes sure to play them when she is at 100%.
This is annoying I want to see matches FFS.

Serena always makes sure not to face any decent opponent when she's not 100% ready :facepalm:.

I mean, really!
What is the point in coming here and making both yourself + Martha look like a joke. Just shut up and do not reply to the thread.

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 10:36 AM
Whats up with Wimbledon 2008/2009 and AO 2010, what's there to bring up:scratch:?

I'm not questioning the fact that Serena is a much more complete player than Maria is mainly because of her serve but my point here is that she hates losing to Maria so much that she prefers losing a round prior knowing that she's not 100% fit to face her rather than losing against the above mentioned :shrug:.

This justification of Maria fans that Maria not able to beat Serena because they play when she is healthy is so pathetic, and reflects really badly on Maria. Since you can't beat Serena when she is healthy, you all are hoping to play her when she is not? :lol:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:36 AM
As crazy as it sounds I really believe that Serena hates losing to Maria so much that when she feels she isn't 100% healthy and ready to beat her she ends up losing a round prior to facing her :shrug:.

That is my opinion :angel:.

Everytime Serena beat Maria, she ended up winning the tournament :eek: so yeah she really is in form everytime she meets her. Your opinion make sense to me.

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:37 AM
Of course I want her to win this tournament any way possible. But I also wanted another matchup with Serena because to be the best you gotta beat the best. I fail to understand how that in any way is offensive or a payout against Serena. It's a compliment :lol: Why is it not ok for Maria fans to be disappointed with her withdrawal for the reason of wanting another match and opportunity to beat her in a final?

Nevertheless, Serena is out and time to move on, but still this shouldn't have even been an issue.Its not offensive, its just seems very short sighted from you all. :shrug: Maria has been losing to Vika in routine fashion (minus Stuttgart) and can't pull it together mentally in the big finals. If her goal is to be the best, she has a lot to prove on the court, and Serena has nothing to do with a lot of it. Just my opinion.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:38 AM
The fact that Serena was waiting while Maria didn't make it?

And I will repeat, if thats your justification for Maria not being able to beat Serena, then its seriously pathetic. You can't beat her when she is healthy so hoping to play her when she is not? :lol:

And isn't it what's happening with others players who are playing a FULL schedule, do you really believe that Maria was as good in Madrid as she was in Stuttgart? And Vika too? The fact that they'r playing much more affects their physical condition and their game you know.

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:38 AM
:lol: So now the Masha-fans are so desperate for Masha to finally beat Serena again? They want to Serena to even play Masha while being injured?! :facepalm:

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:39 AM
Well if you believe that, that's just your first problem. Besides, I thought the consensus among most Mashabators was that Serena hates Maria and turns into GOAT mode when playing her. In that case, would her form leading up to their match even matter? BTW, in the 2007 AO Serena was obese, nearly got routined by Petrova, 2 pts away from losing to Peer(one of the worst players to ever break the top 20) etc. She could have easily netted two returns at that point, knowing a likely showdown with #1 seed Maria was looming if she was afraid of her :shrug: That's the worst form Serena has ever seemed to be in compared to Maria, and we all know what eventually happened in the final.

Serena bloomed in confidence going into the match against Maria. You're really ignorant if you believe that those matches against Peer and against Petrova did Serena harm :yeah:. Let's not mention Maria's serving problems through the fortnight here and her R1 in 2007 :yeah:.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:39 AM
Serena would have crushed Sharapova in the final anyways...Its too predictable by now...Serena has a real chance to win the French, so why fuck it up now? If Maria can even make it far in Paris, she will get her chance to be humiliated again, Im sure...Good for Li...Its better to have different names in the final...The tired ass Vika-Aga and Rena-Masha beatdowns are getting boring...If Serena pulled out, so what of it? Count all the women and men who withdrew this week from a tourney or withdrew next week from a tourney to rest up for the French...Serena isnt the only one...Any player, male or female, who wants a real chance to go deep at a GS makes sure they have enough rest and are fit and healthy before a slam starts...If not, whats the point of playing? The whole point of these clay tourneys is to get match practice on clay...Serena has gotten hers and moved on...What of it? And Flavia getting robbed? LOL...That bitch was way too injured to continue on in Rome; a complete non factor here...Serena plays Masha on her own dime, so if Rena aint up for it, she aint up for it...Let Masha wait her turn like all the other mignons...Serena isnt going to get Masha any special treatment just because Masha fans yearn to see her get pulverized into bits...Rest up Rena and snatch all 7 bitches wigs at the French

See? That's what we were talking about :shrug:

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:39 AM
As crazy as it sounds I really believe that Serena hates losing to Maria so much that when she feels she isn't 100% healthy and ready to beat her she ends up losing a round prior to facing her :shrug:.

That is my opinion :angel:.
Yeah, it sounds very crazy. But most of the rationalizations Masha fans are producing these days are beyond the pale anyway. :lol:

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Thank you, LordRena! :hearts: Now your bitch has a shot at the title( don't you dare fuck this up Martha :mad:).
She did reach the semis so I genuinely believe that Serena was indeed gunning for another title since she did put a considerate effort but of course self-preservation comes first.
The one bad thing that comes from this is that according to WTA, now her streak is finished, statistics wise. :(





I mean, really!
What is the point in coming here and making both yourself + Martha look like a joke. Just shut up and do not reply to the thread.

Fu ck off Svetlio :rolleyes:.

aloeball
May 19th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Bitches, please. Serena was doing it for match practise on red clay. Not for money and points like Azarenka. Theres a difference.

And lets not go talking about how Serena would have won the title - she didn't, lets stay humble. We can wait until after RG to gloat.

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Everytime Serena beat Maria, she ended up winning the tournament :eek: so yeah she really is in form everytime she meets her. Your opinion make sense to me.

Everytime Masha's avoided Serena, she's managed to at least reach the F...shouldn't you guys just be happy?! I mean the evidence is there: Serena is END game for Masha..so you guys should be praying: more withdrawals, more withdrawals...instead of talking non-sense. :lol:

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 10:40 AM
And isn't it what's happening with others players who are playing a FULL schedule, do you really believe that Maria was as good in Madrid as she was in Stuttgart? And Vika too? The fact that they'r employing much more affects their physical condition and their game you know.

Erm, she had a week's worth of rest after stuttgart didn't she? Unlike Serena in Rome, she wasn't injured :shrug: And what about sanford last year, Serena was far from 100%, it was only her third tournament back from pulmonary embolism while Sharapova had just reached the Wimbledon final.

ReboundAce
May 19th, 2012, 10:40 AM
Guys stop making this a "serena doesn't want to face maria cuase she will lose" threas, it is just Rena playing very much even for her standards on clay, i mean goog God, the RG is in almost a week, then there is Wimbledon, Olympics, so she is smart enpugh to pull out, that's it. It is not because of Maria, who could lose to Kerber

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 10:41 AM
I am aware that she sprained her ankle in Brisbane but tell me this, how many games did she lose before going to face Makarova in the fourth round?

She showed good form when winning her first second and third rounds :shrug:. So don't pull up the Ankle card here Ok. Maria had a much tougher ankle condition to deal with and she still managed to reach the finals .

It was common consensus among Serena's REAL fans(aka the ones who know her game the best) that her movement was sluggish all week. She just received 3 easy opponents until in the 4r Makarova played the role of the lower ranked girl that rises to the occasion/is able to take advantage of her form.

And a Serena in her first match back since AO losing to the best defender on tour at Miami is not a huge surprise, especially since Wozniacki always plays her tough and held MP back in 2009, right in between Serena's 08 USO and 09 AO victories :shrug:

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:41 AM
This justification of Maria fans that Maria not able to beat Serena because they play when she is healthy is so pathetic, and reflects really badly on Maria. Since you can't beat Serena when she is healthy, you all are hoping to play her when she is not? :lol:

Did I ever mentioned anywhere that that is the justification that Maria is not able to beat Serena :facepalm:. Their H2H is what it is, Serena played brilliant in almost all of their encounters :shrug:. Read my above posted comments first k :yeah:.

Slutiana
May 19th, 2012, 10:42 AM
It's not our fault if you don't care about matches we have the right to want them facing each other is it really so hard to understand ? And yes Serena sometimes makes sure to play when she is feeling well, all players have to deal with physical problems but they're still playing if it's really serious I can understand a withdrawal bu lets be honest yesterday she was talking about playin Na and suddenly she retires :help:
Do you really believes in that low back injury ?


Let's see her recent injuries.

- visibly sprained ankle at Brisbane. Withdrew and clearly hindered at the AO.

- Hurt her toe in Cincy. Everyone said she was simply withdrawing for Kim Kardashian's wedding, yet she had to call for an MTO on the said toe at the US Open and we all saw the thick-as-fuck layers of tape on it.

- 1 year our with foot injury-turned pulmonary embolism. Probably more conspiracy theories for an injury than ever before. There were fabricated stories of her taking the boot off and walking around freely. It took her almost dying in February for people to finally believe her.

- Taped up and limped to the 09 YEC title (About 6/8 were injured.) Huge uproar and more theories when she withdrew from Fed Cup, came to AO 2 months later with 10 times more tape. After limping to the title there, she then spent the next four months out paying for her playing on the injury.

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:lol: So excuse me for not immediately not jumping to the same conclusion and you people always do. Tennis fans have a long history of dismissing/making conspiracy theories about Serena's injuries despite having no basis for doing so and being completely wrong and looking like idiots when the dust settles. Her motivation/effort in WTA events has always been the issue (which clearly isn't one anymore, considering the 4 titles on her ranking) rather than fabricating injuries.

At the end of the day, she's 30, she's injury-prone and she's not stupid enough to take risks ahead of what will be the most gruelling 4 months in tennis. That is all.

Lulu.
May 19th, 2012, 10:42 AM
:lol: So now the Masha-fans are so desperate for Masha to finally beat Serena again? They want to Serena to even play Masha while being injured?! :facepalm:

Seems like it. :tape:

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 10:44 AM
Did I ever mentioned anywhere that that is the justification that Maria is not able to beat Serena :facepalm:. Their H2H is what it is, Serena played brilliant in almost all of their encounters :shrug:. Read my above posted comments first k :yeah:.

Saying that Serena only plays Maria when she is 100% seems like a justification for Maria not being able to beat Serena. :lol: And the disappointment of the Maria fans in this thread because Maria didn't get a chance to play an injured and tired Serena makes Maria look quite pathetic :lol:

Marilyn Monheaux
May 19th, 2012, 10:44 AM
See? That's what we were talking about :shrug:


You're picking and chosing here. Every fanbase has their fair share of "bad apples"... considering what The Siberian Siren has turned into, I'm sure you know what I am talking about. It's like saying every Masha fan shares the same mindset as some of the known Mashatards...

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 10:45 AM
:lol: So now the Masha-fans are so desperate for Masha to finally beat Serena again? They want to Serena to even play Masha while being injured?! :facepalm:

If you can't beat her when she is healthy, hope for a match when she is injured :lol:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:45 AM
Erm, she had a week's worth of rest after stuttgart didn't she? Unlike Serena in Rome, she wasn't injured :shrug: And what about sanford last year, Serena was far from 100%, it was only her third tournament back from pulmonary embolism while Sharapova had just reached the Wimbledon final.

Serena wasn't in form in Stanford, is that a joke?:lol: It was obvious that her serve and her game were more than effective, more effective than in Wimbledon that's for sure.

acetoace
May 19th, 2012, 10:46 AM
:lol::lol::lol: stop with this shit. You're all here talking about cakewalk draws all day long but today it's not a problem :lol: you guys are really something.
And considering Serena won Charleston and Madrid and is one the faves for the French as well, I really believe that another match against her was worth it.


Look, I know u've been an idiot for God knows since when...... but what does Serena have to gain playing a loser who stands no chance of beating Lordrena? Be glad Serena saves ya'll sorry asses another humble defeat and increase h2h to 9-2. On the other hand though, I think Serena just postponed that eventuality to 3wks from now on one of tennis biggest stage where demolition of pova would be no less routine and complete.:bounce:

longtin23
May 19th, 2012, 10:46 AM
Expected... Especially when she has not lost any match in clay court and have ebough match practise for RG, she should and would definitely not play this preety useless match/tournament...

I kind of think that she even didnt have any injuries, but seems that she has. Rest well.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:47 AM
It was common consensus among Serena's REAL fans(aka the ones who know her game the best) that her movement was sluggish all week. She just received 3 easy opponents until in the 4r Makarova played the role of the lower ranked girl that rises to the occasion/is able to take advantage of her form.

And a Serena in her first match back since AO losing to the best defender on tour at Miami is not a huge surprise, especially since Wozniacki always plays her tough and held MP back in 2009, right in between Serena's 08 USO and 09 AO victories :shrug:

But someone mentioned earlier in this thread that Serena's sluggish movement didn't affect her at all when she won AO 2007 :shrug:, so why bring her movement into discussion now :shrug:. I told you earlier that Maria had a more serious injury in her ankle than Serena going into AO and she still managed to reach the final.

Annie.
May 19th, 2012, 10:47 AM
:lol: So now the Masha-fans are so desperate for Masha to finally beat Serena again? They want to Serena to even play Masha while being injured?! :facepalm:

:lol: It's embarrassing isn't it? According to them Serena should play when she's not 100% so it can level the playing field for Sharapova.

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 10:48 AM
Serena wasn't in form in Stanford, is that a joke?:lol: It was obvious that her serve and her game were more than effective, more effective than in Wimbledon that's for sure.

So a woman ranked outside the top 100, who had just come back after a one year injury break was in better form than the woman who had just reached the Wimbledon final a few weeks ago and was ranked in he top 5? :lol: Is that how low your opinion of Sharapova is?

Pasta-Na
May 19th, 2012, 10:48 AM
Serena doesn't hate Na Li since they talked about "nails" together. :spit:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Look, I know u've been an idiot for God knows since when...... but what does Serena have to gain playing a loser who stands no chance of beating Lordrena? Be glad Serena saves ya'll sorry asses another humble defeat and increase h2h to 9-2. On the other hand though, I think Serena just postponed that eventuality to 3wks from now on one of tennis biggest stage where demolition of pova would be no less routine and complete.:bounce:

I don't care if Serena keeps beating up on Maria, for Maria to have a chance she will have to play her eventually you dummy and not only when Serena decides, that's all I'm saying.

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Isn't this what everyone expected? why so mad? lol it willl still be a good final with Li/Maria or L/Kerber. :)

Lachy
May 19th, 2012, 10:50 AM
:lol: So now the Masha-fans are so desperate for Masha to finally beat Serena again? They want to Serena to even play Masha while being injured?! :facepalm:

Seems like it. :tape:

Again, what is wrong with some Maria fans being disappointed at Serena withdrawing because we wanted another match-up between the two? Who said they wanted Serena to play her injured? :lol:

You're picking and chosing here. Every fanbase has their fair share of "bad apples"... considering what The Siberian Siren has turned into, I'm sure you know what I am talking about. It's like saying every Masha fan shares the same mindset as some of the known Mashatards...

No he's not picking and choosing. Pretty much every single Serena fan that has entered this thread will put whatever happens in the remainder of this tournament down to Serena withdrawing. No matter who wins, their performance will be discredited and it's just not right. Doomsday is merely pointing out one such example of this already out of a multitude of similarly worded posts.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Saying that Serena only plays Maria when she is 100% seems like a justification for Maria not being able to beat Serena. :lol: And the disappointment of the Maria fans in this thread because Maria didn't get a chance to play an injured and tired Serena makes Maria look quite pathetic :lol:



Maybe you never went through the Siberian Siren forum but I always wanted a match between Serena and Maria on red clay, ALWAYS :shrug:. This is not a justification, I really enjoy when these two play and the hype is :drool: prior to their matches :shrug:, but what I'm trying to say is that it would be cool if these two met even if one of them if not 100% fit because Maria brings the best out of Serena every time they meet :angel:.

Slutiana
May 19th, 2012, 10:50 AM
Serena wasn't in form in Stanford, is that a joke?:lol: It was obvious that her serve and her game were more than effective, more effective than in Wimbledon that's for sure.
She lost a set to Kirilenko in the match before. Do you really consider that "in form?"

Throughout that HC swing, all Serena was doing was serving well, moving well and staying consistent. She clearly didn't have the feel or confidence back in her groundstrokes to do anything else. That only came after Charleston. Do you have any other arguments to deflate? :hug:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:52 AM
Serena wasn't in form in Stanford, is that a joke?:lol: It was obvious that her serve and her game were more than effective, more effective than in Wimbledon that's for sure.

It doesn't matter if Serena was in form or not..Maria was the IN form player. She just reached Wimbledon final, was in the top 5 again..Serena was basically unranked.

Unless you're admitting that Serena is always the better player when facing Masha, no matter what the rankings say?! :eek: Is it really that you telling us?!

L'Enfant Sauvage
May 19th, 2012, 10:52 AM
Thank you, LordRena! :hearts: Now your bitch has a shot at the title( don't you dare fuck this up Martha :mad:).
She did reach the semis so I genuinely believe that Serena was indeed gunning for another title since she did put a considerate effort but of course self-preservation comes first.
The one bad thing that comes from this is that according to WTA, now her streak is finished, statistics wise. :(





I mean, really!
What is the point in coming here and making both yourself + Martha look like a joke. Just shut up and do not reply to the thread.

:hearts: Sveta :yeah:

Serena bloomed in confidence going into the match against Maria. You're really ignorant if you believe that those matches against Peer and against Petrova did Serena harm :yeah:. Let's not mention Maria's serving problems through the fortnight here and her R1 in 2007 :yeah:.

And Maria just killed Clijsters 6-4 6-2 :inlove: I'm pretty sure ANYONE who was around at the time would tell you Serena was the overwhelming underdog in this matchup. But anyway I guess discussing this with you is pointless. If Serena has played through to meet much tougher opponents for her, such as Justine(6-8) or Capriati(7-10) whom she also has bitter pasts with(the former who she might even hate MORE than Maria,) and you really think she's tanking to face Maria(2-8) you're beyond reasoning with.

lee station
May 19th, 2012, 10:53 AM
Serena doesn't hate Na Li since they talked about "nails" together. :spit:
heheh :)

Vuvurenka
May 19th, 2012, 10:53 AM
miffedmax needs to come in and clean up this thread because it's getting ridiculous :help:

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:54 AM
Again, what is wrong with some Maria fans being disappointed at Serena withdrawing because we wanted another match-up between the two? Who said they wanted Serena to play her injured? :lol:



No he's not picking and choosing. Pretty much every single Serena fan that has entered this thread will put whatever happens in the remainder of this tournament down to Serena withdrawing. No matter who wins, their performance will be discredited and it's just not right. Doomsday is merely pointing out one such example of this already out of a multitude of similarly worded posts.Bb, relax. Trust me, we are focused on Roland Garros/Wimbledon/Olympics. We do NOT give a damn about Rome, or the circumstances around who will eventually win it now that Lordrena is out.

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 10:54 AM
Why are the maria fans in here? There is no need to be upset. I like Maria but some of yall are acting really desperate and childish now.

Vikapower
May 19th, 2012, 10:54 AM
How classy from Serena -- :yeah: All the people criticizing Victoria and the so called "Queen" shows her class in the SF this time kind of really destroying the tournament.

I hope her "injury" will be alright by the time of RG. :rolleyes:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 10:55 AM
So a woman ranked outside the top 100, who had just come back after a one year injury break was in better form than the woman who had just reached the Wimbledon final a few weeks ago and was ranked in he top 5? :lol: Is that how low your opinion of Sharapova is?

As strange as it is yeah. Believe it or not Maria played a lot of tournaments prior to Wimbledon and even that meeting in Stanford so she wasn't fully fit and it was obvious she was playing shitty tennis in Wimbledon(she played only 1 good match in 4th round I think) but she still found a way to reach the final so that remains correct.
This case not apply for Serena only, in fact I remember a lot of Serena fans saying the very same thing when Clijsters defeated Venus and Serena at the USO saying that she came back at the right time at the end of the year when every player was tired or dead physically but when it's about your fave why don't you want to apply the same logic ? :shrug:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:55 AM
Again, what is wrong with some Maria fans being disappointed at Serena withdrawing because we wanted another match-up between the two? Who said they wanted Serena to play her injured? :lol:



No he's not picking and choosing. Pretty much every single Serena fan that has entered this thread will put whatever happens in the remainder of this tournament down to Serena withdrawing. No matter who wins, their performance will be discredited and it's just not right. Doomsday is merely pointing out one such example of this already out of a multitude of similarly worded posts.

Sure, they can be disappointed...Serena-fans are even more disappointed, no? :shrug:
But doomsday said that he hates how Serena only plays Masha when she's 100 %, that implies that he wants Serena to play even while being injured, no?!

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 10:56 AM
You're picking and chosing here. Every fanbase has their fair share of "bad apples"... considering what The Siberian Siren has turned into, I'm sure you know what I am talking about. It's like saying every Masha fan shares the same mindset as some of the known Mashatards...

No he's not :facepalm:.

What are you implying with this?

Siberian Siren has become a place where users who like Maria more than any other player out there gather and talk :shrug:, thank god you and Pieter are not that active in there anymore :yeah: cause at some point I was doubtful If I was entering the Ivanovic's forum or Azarenka's one :yeah:.

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 10:58 AM
As strange as it is yeah. Believe it or not Maria played a lot of tournaments prior to Wimbledon and even that meeting in Stanford so she wasn't fully fit and it was obvious she was playing shitty tennis in Wimbledon(she played only 1 good match in 4th round I think) but she still found a way to reach the final so that remains correct.
This case not apply for Serena only, in fact I remember a lot of Serena fans saying the very same thing when Clijsters defeated Venus and Serena at the USO saying that she came back at the right time at the end of the year when every player was tired or dead physically but when it's about your fave why don't you want to apply the same logic ? :shrug:

There's always something with Maria when she loses to Serena it seems..too tired, out of form, blah, blah..at least you guys dropped the tired shoulder-excuse.

Slutiana
May 19th, 2012, 10:59 AM
:rolleyes:
Are you seriously telling me that you don't see the difference between the original comment suggesting that she was perfectly fine, and the actual quote saying that her body should be ok with a week's rest and she has to be positive about it?

Are you really that basic?

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 10:59 AM
As strange as it is yeah. Believe it or not Maria played a lot of tournaments prior to Wimbledon and even that meeting in Stanford so she wasn't fully fit and it was obvious she was playing shitty tennis in Wimbledon(she played only 1 good match in 4th round I think) but she still found a way to reach the final so that remains correct.
OK Maria played a lot of matches, but Serena was in her third tournament back from two surgeries and a pulmonary embolism. :help: You're really dense. :lol:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 11:00 AM
And Maria just killed Clijsters 6-4 6-2 :inlove: I'm pretty sure ANYONE who was around at the time would tell you Serena was the overwhelming underdog in this matchup. But anyway I guess discussing this with you is pointless. If Serena has played through to meet much tougher opponents for her, such as Justine(6-8) or Capriati(7-10) whom she also has bitter pasts with(the former who she might even hate MORE than Maria,) and you really think she's tanking to face Maria(2-8) you're beyond reasoning with.

:lol: Exactly..I mean Masha's NO threat to Serena, so why would Serena be scared of playing Masha?! Really, these Masha-tards are something else.

Cosmic Voices
May 19th, 2012, 11:00 AM
Must every rena thread involve masha? :o
Either way I really wanted Na in the final, she's been playing top notch all week :yeah:

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 11:02 AM
Must every rena thread involve masha? :o
Either way I really wanted Na in the final, she's been playing top notch all week :yeah:

It wouldn't if the certain fans would stop coming in derailing the topic at hand. This happens all the time for Serena or Maria's matches.

Miss Atomic Bomb
May 19th, 2012, 11:02 AM
As strange as it is yeah. Believe it or not Maria played a lot of tournaments prior to Wimbledon and even that meeting in Stanford so she wasn't fully fit and it was obvious she was playing shitty tennis in Wimbledon(she played only 1 good match in 4th round I think) but she still found a way to reach the final so that remains correct.:

Seems like Serena has really crushed your spirits if you have that less of a faith in your favourite player who had just reached the Wimbledon Finals and RG semifinals

Serena had just lost to Bartoli, Kirilenko took her to 3 sets in the match before Martha's and was ranked outside the top 100. Maria was in better form, but I can understand why you think so lowly of her these days.

Pebbles
May 19th, 2012, 11:03 AM
Serena :hug: rest up and win RG :yeah:

SAISAI-GOAT
May 19th, 2012, 11:04 AM
620 points :inlove:

Maria fans just bitter that their fave has to play her SF and work for her points :happy:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 11:04 AM
Are you seriously telling me that you don't see the difference between the original comment suggesting that she was perfectly fine, and the actual quote saying that her body should be ok with a week's rest and she has to be positive about it?

Are you really that basic?

I'm just saying that she didn't mention any of this after "playing" Pennetta beside deep down we all know she is kinda fine, anyway it's a shame that she withdrew again. It would have been interesting to see her against Li.

azinna
May 19th, 2012, 11:04 AM
Rest up

....

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 11:06 AM
OK Maria played a lot of matches, but Serena was in her third tournament back from two surgeries and a pulmonary embolism. :help: You're really dense. :lol:

Seems like Serena has really crushed your spirits if you have that less of a faith in your favourite player who had just reached the Wimbledon Finals and RG semifinals

Serena had just lost to Bartoli, Kirilenko took her to 3 sets in the match before Martha's and was ranked outside the top 100. Maria was in better form, but I can understand why you think so lowly of her these days.

It's funny how both of you decided not to pay attention to the rest of my quote but I know why, not a big deal :lol:

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 11:07 AM
She lost a set to Kirilenko in the match before. Do you really consider that "in form?"

Throughout that HC swing, all Serena was doing was serving well, moving well and staying consistent. She clearly didn't have the feel or confidence back in her groundstrokes to do anything else. That only came after Charleston. Do you have any other arguments to deflate? :hug:

That's enough if you ask me :shrug:.

Slutiana
May 19th, 2012, 11:07 AM
I'm just saying that she didn't mention any of this after "playing" Pennetta beside deep down we all know she is kinda fine, anyway it's a shame that she withdrew again. It would have been interesting to see her against Li.
Nope. She already said earlier in the week that she had a slight ache in the back. Evidently it got a tiny bit worse and she made the decision to pull out so nothing serious happened before the FO in one week. That's all.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 11:07 AM
:hearts: Sveta :yeah:



And Maria just killed Clijsters 6-4 6-2 :inlove: I'm pretty sure ANYONE who was around at the time would tell you Serena was the overwhelming underdog in this matchup. But anyway I guess discussing this with you is pointless. If Serena has played through to meet much tougher opponents for her, such as Justine(6-8) or Capriati(7-10) whom she also has bitter pasts with(the former who she might even hate MORE than Maria,) and you really think she's tanking to face Maria(2-8) you're beyond reasoning with.

No that's what you're saying, read my comments to understand what I'm saying :yeah:.

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 11:07 AM
I'm just saying that she didn't mention any of this after "playing" Pennetta beside deep down we all know she is kinda fine, anyway it's a shame that she withdrew again. It would have been interesting to see her against Li.

Can you end it at that please? This had nothing to do with Maria who still has a match to play today.

Slutiana
May 19th, 2012, 11:08 AM
That's enough if you ask me :shrug:.
Ok? But serving is only a part of her game. The rest of her game was still in poor condition. If the girls can't handle a Serena with just a serve, then that's their issue.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 11:09 AM
You're picking and chosing here. Every fanbase has their fair share of "bad apples"... considering what The Siberian Siren has turned into, I'm sure you know what I am talking about. It's like saying every Masha fan shares the same mindset as some of the known Mashatards...

Siberian Siren has turned into what? Are you talking about the "n" comments over there? If you are yeah I agree.

HRHoliviasmith
May 19th, 2012, 11:09 AM
Disappointed but I like Na? Li? so good luck to her in the final.

Serena :hug: Get some rest and take care of that back.

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 11:10 AM
It's funny how both of you decided not to pay attention to the rest of my quote but I know why, not a big deal :lol:
I excised that part of your post because you were asking me to provide an explanation for a argument that I never made in the first place. I never said anything about Serena losing to Kim because Kim was fresher back in 2009.

HRHoliviasmith
May 19th, 2012, 11:11 AM
Absolutely. And it is. But we don't need any discrediting from here on. Whoever wins this event deserves it.

:devil:

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 11:11 AM
Ok? But serving is only a part of her game. The rest of her game was still in poor condition. If the girls can't handle a Serena with just a serve, then that's their issue.

I've never seen Serena playing poorly when her serve is on :shrug:.

And agree on the last part :yeah:.

Queenpova
May 19th, 2012, 11:11 AM
If you're going to withdraw for no reason, dont enter the fucking tournament. :rolleyes:

Shiffrin
May 19th, 2012, 11:13 AM
If you're going to withdraw for no reason, dont enter the fucking tournament. :rolleyes:

Be happy she didn't streamrolled Maria again. :lol:

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 11:14 AM
If you're going to withdraw for no reason, dont enter the fucking tournament. :rolleyes:

You are so nasty it's not even funny.

Big_Banana
May 19th, 2012, 11:14 AM
Be happy she didn't streamrolled Maria again. :lol:

:lol:

Cosmic Voices
May 19th, 2012, 11:15 AM
It wouldn't if the certain fans would stop coming in derailing the topic at hand. This happens all the time for Serena or Maria's matches.

we must all secretly love it though, right? :cool:
just a shame their rivalry in terms of h2h isn't on par :sobbing:

if they have the clijsters/henin h2h this shit would go down :armed:

Vikapower
May 19th, 2012, 11:15 AM
620 points

Maria fans just bitter that their fave has to play her SF and work for her points

You know Li's chances of defending RG are close to 0. Hope she'll out of the top 20 by by next week and the following ones.

HRHoliviasmith
May 19th, 2012, 11:15 AM
poor dommsday, so distraught by this. :hug: :awww:

Cosmic Voices
May 19th, 2012, 11:16 AM
You know Li's chances of defending RG are close to 0. Hope she'll out of the top 20 by by next week and the following ones.

vikapower that's so mean :hysteric:
i though everyone liked superna :bounce:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 11:16 AM
You know Li's chances of defending RG are close to 0. Hope she'll out of the top 20 by by next week and the following ones.

:lol:

Sabinator.
May 19th, 2012, 11:17 AM
Serena just doesn't want this:

http://gifsoup.com/view/72274/serena-rome-and-madrid-o.gif

"She won Rome and Madrid" :haha:

Miracle Worker
May 19th, 2012, 11:17 AM
If you're going to withdraw for no reason, dont enter the fucking tournament. :rolleyes:

Well, this time (and I think it's second time in last few days) I agree with you.

Pasta-Na
May 19th, 2012, 11:17 AM
You know Li's chances of defending RG are close to 0. Hope she'll out of the top 20 by by next week and the following ones.

It's getting difficult. :secret:

J4m3ka
May 19th, 2012, 11:17 AM
Expected. She looked in pain against Petrova and was taking medication on the court.

Why on earth are Martha fans polluting this thread AGAIN with their rubbish? Can't they be refrained from posting anywhere outside of Slamless Siren? Believe me, back injury or not, no one wants to see Martha receiving another ravaging in the final. Which is what would have happened had the two met. This is assuming Martha doesn't get her wig snatched in the SF which is not an unrealistic possibility :lol:

garyyoung
May 19th, 2012, 11:17 AM
:oh:

Vikapower
May 19th, 2012, 11:18 AM
vikapower that's so mean :hysteric:
i though everyone liked superna :bounce:

Li's style of play you mean ? Yes, I distaste her style of play. :shrug:

Her personality etc. is cool but her tennis is an absolute torture.

Pasta-Na
May 19th, 2012, 11:18 AM
Serena just doesn't want this:

http://gifsoup.com/view/72274/serena-rome-and-madrid-o.gif

"She won Rome and Madrid" :haha:

Good one :haha: :haha: :haha:

SAISAI-GOAT
May 19th, 2012, 11:18 AM
Vikapower so bitter :spit:

Queenpova
May 19th, 2012, 11:18 AM
You are so nasty it's not even funny.

How am I nasty? Did I lie? :confused: her entry could have gone to another girl.

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 11:18 AM
Expected. She looked in pain against Petrova and was taking medication on the court.

Why on earth are Martha fans polluting this thread AGAIN with their rubbish? Can't they be refrained from posting anywhere outside of Slamless Siren? Believe me, back injury or not, no one wants to see Martha receiving another ravaging in the final. Which is what would have happened had the two met. This is assuming Martha doesn't get her wig snatched in the SF which is not an unrealistic possibility :lol:Wouldn't that be poetic justice? :oh:

Cosmic Voices
May 19th, 2012, 11:20 AM
Li's style of play you mean ? Yes, I distaste her style of play. :shrug:

Her personality etc. is cool but her tennis is an absolute torture.

oh ok, style of play i agree with you on that :cool:
the bitch once hit a bhdtl so wide it derailed a ball kid :sobbing:

C. Drone
May 19th, 2012, 11:21 AM
just stay healthy. :hug:

Vikapower
May 19th, 2012, 11:22 AM
Vikapower so bitter :spit:

Victoria has now defeated Li 2 consecutive times. :kiss:

I don't like to see Victoria losing to her and hope RG was the last time this irregularity ever happened. ;) :p

It's getting difficult. :secret:

Difficult for what :shrug:

Big_Banana
May 19th, 2012, 11:23 AM
You know Li's chances of defending RG are close to 0. Hope she'll out of the top 20 by by next week and the following ones.

:drool:

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 11:23 AM
poor dommsday, so distraught by this. :hug: :awww:

:lol: Why aren't you behind Iluvkvitty's butt I think he needs you more than I do right now.

Shinjiro
May 19th, 2012, 11:26 AM
Glad for Li, hope she makes the most of this opportunity.

Back to topic, I would have liked to see Maria and Serena play on red clay. Maybe at RG...

Vikapower
May 19th, 2012, 11:28 AM
oh ok, style of play i agree with you on that :cool:
the bitch once hit a bhdtl so wide it derailed a ball kid :sobbing:

The ?-41 against Maria in Miami, the 30+ UE's she stroke against Stosur in the YEC -- I'm sorry but I really just can not stand Li's tennis at all and never will.

Less TV coverage for her the better for my eyes and I think many other fan's too. :lol: :angel:

Not that I watch or search to watch her matches but she often plays her worst against the players I support bar Petra (for whatever unknown reasons) so that's when I see her gems.

Queen_Vee_92
May 19th, 2012, 11:28 AM
NID just a round or 2 later than most of us expected.

Good decision as well. She's still not lost on clay this season, she's won lots of matches on variations of the surface, and got some good practice in here.

Rest up any little niggles and come out firing at RG and win the title.

Mr.Sharapova
May 19th, 2012, 11:30 AM
The ?-41 against Maria in Miami, the 30+ UE's she stroke against Stosur in the YEC -- I'm sorry but I really just can not stand Li's tennis at all and never will.

Less TV coverage for her the better for my eyes and I think many other fan's too. :lol: :angel:

Not that I watch or search to watch her matches but she often plays her worst against the players I support so that's when I see her gems.

On the other hand you cannot deny that when her game is on her strokes are a beauty to watch :shrug:.

Cosmic Voices
May 19th, 2012, 11:33 AM
i do think rena does give walkovers just to keep her streak perfect in terms of official wta match wins
:devil:

brickhousesupporter
May 19th, 2012, 11:33 AM
Expected. She looked in pain against Petrova and was taking medication on the court.

Why on earth are Martha fans polluting this thread AGAIN with their rubbish? Can't they be refrained from posting anywhere outside of Slamless Siren? Believe me, back injury or not, no one wants to see Martha receiving another ravaging in the final. Which is what would have happened had the two met. This is assuming Martha doesn't get her wig snatched in the SF which is not an unrealistic possibility :lol:
Don't you just love how people conveniently forget about this.

Cosmic Voices
May 19th, 2012, 11:35 AM
1002th post :cheer:

Vintage101
May 19th, 2012, 11:35 AM
She did look injured in previous rounds. :rolleyes:

brickhousesupporter
May 19th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Glad for Li, hope she makes the most of this opportunity.

Back to topic, I would have liked to see Maria and Serena play on red clay. Maybe at RG...
I too hope she ends up in Maria's section of the draw.

M.P
May 19th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Serena just doesn't want this:

http://gifsoup.com/view/72274/serena-rome-and-madrid-o.gif

"She won Rome and Madrid" :haha:

:haha:

Pasta-Na
May 19th, 2012, 11:36 AM
Victoria has now defeated Li 2 consecutive times. :kiss:

I don't like to see Victoria losing to her and hope RG was the last time this irregularity ever happened. ;) :p



Difficult for what :shrug:

Half of NaNa's brain is still in the slump. She brainfarted or ErrorNa appeared when she started to lead in those matches. She did the same thing against Kim and Aga as well. :p She said she knew she could beat these in-form/peak medium power players. But her mind fled to somewhere. :spit:

She earned almost 2100 points so far this year. So it's difficult for ErrorNa to be out of top 20. :p

Monzanator
May 19th, 2012, 11:37 AM
Serena must rate her chances of winning RG higher than usual. Can't say I'm surprised by this withdrawal.

Kworb
May 19th, 2012, 11:37 AM
You know Li's chances of defending RG are close to 0. Hope she'll out of the top 20 by by next week and the following ones.

If my calculations are correct, then removing points from both next week and RG from the live rankings gives:

10. Ivanovic 2970
11. Li 2965
12. Zvonareva 2960
13. Lisicki 2852

Li's ranking is fairly safe :wavey:

Vikapower
May 19th, 2012, 11:38 AM
On the other hand you cannot deny that when her game is on her strokes are a beauty to watch :shrug:.

Exactly, that's the problem, "when". How many matches or tournaments do one have to wait to see that "when" ? 1 for 5 ? 1 for 12 ? These are very bad ratios and she's supposed to be a "top player". :lol:

Li's game is a total and eternal mystery I will never have the abilities to understand. I doubt even she understands herself and what she factually does on court --

Cosmic Voices
May 19th, 2012, 11:39 AM
If my calculations are correct, then removing points from both next week and RG from the live rankings gives:

10. Ivanovic 2970
11. Li 2965
12. Zvonareva 2960
13. Lisicki 2852

Li's ranking is fairly safe :wavey:

omg ana could possibly be top top :hysteric::hysteric::hysteric:

Pasta-Na
May 19th, 2012, 11:41 AM
If my calculations are correct, then removing points from both next week and RG from the live rankings gives:

10. Ivanovic 2970
11. Li 2965
12. Zvonareva 2960
13. Lisicki 2852

Li's ranking is fairly safe :wavey:

Yes, she's going to be more dangerous/less brainfarting when she's not playing under pressure of defending huge points after RG.

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 11:41 AM
If my calculations are correct, then removing points from both next week and RG from the live rankings gives:

10. Ivanovic 2970
11. Li 2965
12. Zvonareva 2960
13. Lisicki 2852

Li's ranking is fairly safe :wavey:

So Ana really has a chance to be top 10 again.:spit: Maybe that will motivate her to start winning matches against top players.

Chip.
May 19th, 2012, 11:42 AM
If my calculations are correct, then removing points from both next week and RG from the live rankings gives:

10. Ivanovic 2970
11. Li 2965
12. Zvonareva 2960
13. Lisicki 2852

Li's ranking is fairly safe :wavey:

Ana back in top 10 :speakles: :hearts:

BluSthil
May 19th, 2012, 11:43 AM
As we all know, Serena has a history of injury. If she says she has a lower back problem, then we take her at her word. Also, Roland Garros is coming up and that is her main target. Also, she says she wants to be #1 again. That means playing the WTA tour (at least several of the tournaments) and joining the other players who practice, travel, and punish the body on a constant basis. The older you get, the tougher the journey gets !

Azarenka says she pulled out of Rome with a shoulder injury. If she says she has a shoulder problem, then we take her at her word. Again, Roland Garros is just around the corner !

HRHoliviasmith
May 19th, 2012, 11:43 AM
:lol: Why aren't you behind Iluvkvitty's butt I think he needs you more than I do right now.

i'm sure he doesn't give two shits about this unlike yourself that sounds like you want to jump off a cliff. :weirdo::happy:

Vikapower
May 19th, 2012, 11:43 AM
If my calculations are correct, then removing points from both next week and RG from the live rankings gives:

10. Ivanovic 2970
11. Li 2965
12. Zvonareva 2960
13. Lisicki 2852

Li's ranking is fairly safe :wavey:

:shrug: I was only just hoping.

:help: I hope you're not totally correct though because Ivanovic ? :help: I even prefer Li than Ivanovic in the top 10 -- ah well. :lol:

Half of NaNa's brain is still in the slump. She brainfarted or ErrorNa appeared when she started to lead in those matches. She did the same thing against Kim and Aga as well. :p She said she knew she could beat these in-form/peak medium power players. But her mind fled to somewhere. :spit:

She earned almost 2100 points so far this year. So it's difficult for ErrorNa to be out of top 20. :p

Well it's a shame, you said her brain is still in a slump and she's ranked this high which means there's a contradiction between her factual level of play and her ranking. ;)

She should definitively not be ranked that high -- top 100-150 would be more representative IMO but she has a major so some of the explanation comes from there. ;)

Juju Nostalgique
May 19th, 2012, 11:44 AM
Sarin :hug: Now I'm sure she's taking RG home! :rocker2:

Go Na! :rocker2: Take this chance and jaz win the title! :cheer: :banana:

Ntosake
May 19th, 2012, 11:45 AM
This thread. :haha::haha::haha: Can't understand, why all the seething Masha fans? :smash: I would think they would be pleased that Serena is out.

Rest up Serena, see you at RG!

Monzanator
May 19th, 2012, 11:49 AM
This thread. :haha::haha::haha: Can't understand, why all the seething Masha fans? :smash: I would think they would be pleased that Serena is out.

Rest up Serena, see you at RG!

Why would I be pleased with Serena's retirement? If Maria wins the event, there will always be the issue of this withdrawal and I'm sure ALL Serena fans will claim she only won it because Serena retired. So in reality Maria losing to Serena in the final would be better, cause it wouldn't have left any room for speculation.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 11:50 AM
i'm sure he doesn't give two shits about this unlike yourself that sounds like you want to jump off a cliff. :weirdo::happy:

Hmmm maybe because he is not even a Pova fan, duh.:lol:

Stamp Paid
May 19th, 2012, 11:57 AM
Why would I be pleased with Serena's retirement? If Maria wins the event, there will always be the issue of this withdrawal and I'm sure ALL Serena fans will claim she only won it because Serena retired. So in reality Maria losing to Serena in the final would be better, cause it wouldn't have left any room for speculation.Why are you all projecting that onto us? I think thats what Sharapova fans will think if Maria wins this tournament now. The win will somehow be tainted for them now because Maria didn't get another crack at Serena.

Serena fans couldn't care less about Rome at this point. Roland Garros is on the horizon.

cn ireland
May 19th, 2012, 11:59 AM
I'm not surprised that Serena is taking this precaution, she's played a lot of matches (by her standards) recently.

HRHoliviasmith
May 19th, 2012, 12:00 PM
Hmmm maybe because he is not even a Pova fan, duh.:lol:

:confused:

he's not a cakewalk-p fan so that's why you want to jump off a cliff? :unsure: yeah, you've gone over the edge. :scared:

Monzanator
May 19th, 2012, 12:02 PM
Why are you all projecting that onto us? I think thats what Sharapova fans will think if Maria wins this tournament now. The win will somehow be tainted for them now because Maria didn't get another crack at Serena.

Serena fans couldn't care less about Rome at this point. Roland Garros is on the horizon.

Because I have seen all the gifs in the Madrid thread and I know every Serena fan will try to diminish Maria's eventual success tomorrow. It's impossible for Maria to earn any respect from other players' fanbase on TF :shrug:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 12:04 PM
Why are you all projecting that onto us? I think thats what Sharapova fans will think if Maria wins this tournament now. The win will somehow be tainted for them now because Maria didn't get another crack at Serena.

Serena fans couldn't care less about Rome at this point. Roland Garros is on the horizon.

ain't it the truth?! Once Serena withdrew from Rome..Rome wasn't relevant anymore..:lol:

HRHoliviasmith
May 19th, 2012, 12:05 PM
Why are you all projecting that onto us? I think thats what Sharapova fans will think if Maria wins this tournament now. The win will somehow be tainted for them now because Maria didn't get another crack at Serena.

Serena fans couldn't care less about Rome at this point. Roland Garros is on the horizon.

:oh: :lol:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 12:06 PM
Because I have seen all the gifs in the Madrid thread and I know every Serena fan will try to diminish Maria's eventual success tomorrow. It's impossible for Maria to earn any respect from other players' fanbase on TF :shrug:

Serena WON Madrid and obviously gave Sharapova another spanking..so what else is new? Now Masha has to do her..go out and win Rome as the highest ranked player left in the draw should be able to do. With or without Serena in the draw.

Mizuki_T
May 19th, 2012, 12:06 PM
Good luck Li Na !

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 12:07 PM
Because I have seen all the gifs in the Madrid thread and I know every Serena fan will try to diminish Maria's eventual success tomorrow. It's impossible for Maria to earn any respect from other players' fanbase on TF :shrug:

Don't be so concerned about other people, it's a forum not real life.

Rest Maria!
May 19th, 2012, 12:11 PM
Because I have seen all the gifs in the Madrid thread and I know every Serena fan will try to diminish Maria's eventual success tomorrow. It's impossible for Maria to earn any respect from other players' fanbase on TF :shrug:

Getting ahead of yourselves, aren't you mashabators?

miffedmax
May 19th, 2012, 12:11 PM
She wanted to go shopping with the Empress.

doomsday
May 19th, 2012, 12:12 PM
:confused:

he's not a cakewalk-p fan so that's why you want to jump off a cliff? :unsure: yeah, you've gone over the edge. :scared:

What? I'm perfectly fine and seriously don't mind all those discussions :lol: I'm mainly the cause of it so would i be bother by reetards' reactions I just wanted to clarify some points and I have. Now let me enjoy Maria's match :kiss:

Marcus1979
May 19th, 2012, 12:12 PM
Because I have seen all the gifs in the Madrid thread and I know every Serena fan will try to diminish Maria's eventual success tomorrow. It's impossible for Maria to earn any respect from other players' fanbase on TF :shrug:

a lot of your fellow sharapova fans were not exactly respectful yesterday in regards to Venus, so its not like its all one way traffic ;)

Monzanator
May 19th, 2012, 12:12 PM
Serena WON Madrid and obviously gave Sharapova another spanking..so what else is new? Now Masha has to do her..go out and win Rome as the highest ranked player left in the draw should be able to do. With or without Serena in the draw.

Somehow I don't see you offering any congratulations to Maria in case of her potential win tomorrow.

Don't be so concerned about other people, it's a forum not real life.

I'm just stating some things which I believe are true. It doesn't matter whether it's just a forum or real-life :shrug:

a lot of your fellow sharapova fans were not exactly respectful yesterday in regards to Venus, so its not like its all one way traffic ;)

I haven't made a single comment in the Venus thread, so I can't help you with those problems :sobbing:

Solitaire
May 19th, 2012, 12:13 PM
I'm surprised she didn't leave the tourney sooner. :shrug: as did Vika..... RG pwns Rome any day.


Go Na or Kerber!!!! :bounce:

bandabou
May 19th, 2012, 12:13 PM
Somehow I don't see you offering any congratulations to Maria in case of her potential win tomorrow.



I'm just stating some things which I believe are true. It doesn't matter whether it's just a forum or real-life :shrug:

why should I congratulate her? She has enough fans to be happy for her. You see any Masha-fan congratulating Serena after she wins tournaments?! :shrug:

Marcus1979
May 19th, 2012, 12:14 PM
She wanted to go shopping with the Empress.

Venus goes shopping "during" matches, serena just takes the whole day off :lol:

Monzanator
May 19th, 2012, 12:18 PM
why should I congratulate her? She has enough fans to be happy for her. You see any Masha-fan congratulating Serena after she wins tournaments?! :shrug:

Well, I wandered into the WS sub-forum during last year's USO and wished her to win the whole thing but was then called a troll and had to leave in a rather unceremonial fashion. If Maria can't win RG, then I'll be happy with Serena winning it instead rather then Azarenka/Radwanska/whoever else.

sweetadri06
May 19th, 2012, 12:18 PM
Somehow I don't see you offering any congratulations to Maria in case of her potential win tomorrow.



I'm just stating some things which I believe are true. It doesn't matter whether it's just a forum or real-life :shrug:



I haven't made a single comment in the Venus thread, so I can't help you with those problems :sobbing:

If you're upset about what people on a forum are going to say about Maria winning instead of being happy that she won, I can't help you. Again she hasn't won yet so don't get ahead of yourself. She has to face Na Li, who took her out at RG.

Monzanator
May 19th, 2012, 12:20 PM
I don't expect Maria to beat Li tomorrow anyway :lol:

Marcus1979
May 19th, 2012, 12:22 PM
Somehow I don't see you offering any congratulations to Maria in case of her potential win tomorrow.



I'm just stating some things which I believe are true. It doesn't matter whether it's just a forum or real-life :shrug:



I haven't made a single comment in the Venus thread, so I can't help you with those problems :sobbing:

I didn't say everyone but there were a lot. Vikapower was the worst of em ;)