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soomaal
May 18th, 2012, 10:27 PM
My girl is multilingual and fluent in Italian.

Interview from earlier today.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDIj147-Pr0&feature=youtu.be

Any other native English speaker speaks a foreign language as fluently? NADA I guess.

winone23
May 18th, 2012, 10:31 PM
Thanks for posting! I always wanted to hear Venus speak Italian. Italian speakers how was her Italian?

tennisbum79
May 18th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Very impressed. She sounded so good

QDIj147-Pr0&feature

JRena
May 18th, 2012, 10:46 PM
this woman never ceases to amaze me.

swissmr
May 18th, 2012, 10:52 PM
That was surprisingly good, I'm impressed! :) I thought it was gonna be like when Serena attempted to speak French :lol:

New_balls_please
May 18th, 2012, 10:54 PM
That was really good :eek: :yeah:

tennisbum79
May 18th, 2012, 10:54 PM
this woman never ceases to amaze me.
she is as relaxed speaking Italian as she is speaking English.

I can't wait for our TF resident Italian speakers who graded Serena's interview.

it-girl
May 18th, 2012, 10:55 PM
The talents of Venus Williams are numerous.

Craig.
May 18th, 2012, 11:03 PM
I don't speak/understand Italian, but she sounded legit. Awesome.

Sammo
May 18th, 2012, 11:05 PM
That was cool, still needs a bit more gesticulation to sound like a legit Italian.


:lol: Just kidding, that was awesome. I've been learning Italian for 8 months and I wished I was as fluent as she is, I should be ashamed cause I'm Spanish and the languages are very similar :facepalm: But anyway I understood like 90% of it, I guess that's OK.

Foxy
May 18th, 2012, 11:09 PM
That was surprisingly good, I'm impressed! :) I thought it was gonna be like when Serena attempted to speak French :lol:

I'm laughing too swissmr. :lol: I love it when Serena speaks French or any other foreign language. :lol: In Serena's defense I do think she practices and knows what she's gonna say, but when she gets in front of the crowd she forgets and that happens. :lol:

tennisbum79
May 18th, 2012, 11:10 PM
That was cool, still needs a bit more gesticulation to sound like a legit Italian.

:lol: Just kidding, that was awesome. I've been learning Italian for 8 months and I wished I was as fluent as she is, I should be ashamed cause I'm Spanish and the languages are very similar :facepalm: But anyway I understood like 90% of it, I guess that's OK.
Spanish & Chinese next.
Those will be important for her business evntures

Potato
May 18th, 2012, 11:10 PM
Wow! She sounds so intelligent and articulate. That's what you get with a formal education :oh:

Mary Cherry.
May 18th, 2012, 11:10 PM
Pleasantly surprised and genuinely impressed.

tennisbum79
May 18th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Wow! She sounds so intelligent and articulate. That's what you get with a formal education :oh:
Venus, the Renaissance woman

Territory
May 18th, 2012, 11:30 PM
Any other native English speaker speaks a foreign language as fluently? NADA I guess.

It's true. Makes Venus look very impressive. While every other player *has* to learn English on the tour if they didn't speak it already, no first-language-English speakers ever make this effort. The only other player I can think of is Jim Courier who is fluent in French.

PetraReeMona
May 18th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Very, very impressive.

Amazing woman :worship:

Charlatan
May 18th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Wow! She sounds so intelligent and articulate. That's what you get with a formal education :oh:

This :worship:

:rolls:

TheHangover
May 18th, 2012, 11:43 PM
:hearts::hearts: she sound so sweet, so is the american language that requires that nasal voice that all the american women seem to have?

tennisbum79
May 18th, 2012, 11:50 PM
:hearts::hearts: she sound so sweet, so is the american language that requires that nasal voice that all the american women seem to have?
So what do you think TheHangover?
Did she make sense to Italian speaker:
She and the interviewer seem to have no problem undersatnding each other?
Granted it os only 1 minute, but nobody ask the other to repeat the question or the answer

Chip.
May 18th, 2012, 11:52 PM
:worship:

Sammo
May 19th, 2012, 12:00 AM
Wow! She sounds so intelligent and articulate. That's what you get with a formal education :oh:

Don't downgrade Venus to Serena's level please :facepalm:

Dav.
May 19th, 2012, 12:02 AM
Somewhere, Hingis is crying.

Mynarco
May 19th, 2012, 12:05 AM
How did serena speak French at RG?

Sammo
May 19th, 2012, 12:08 AM
Somewhere, Hingis is crying.

WTF, Hingis is fluent in French, Swiss German (+ German), Czech (+ Slovakian), and English. That >>> English and Italian

Dav.
May 19th, 2012, 12:12 AM
WTF, Hingis is fluent in French, Swiss German (+ German), Czech (+ Slovakian), and English. That >>> English and Italian

http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs44/i/2009/102/4/c/Sarcasm_for_dummies_by_PoisonHeart555.jpg

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 12:15 AM
Americans are not known to speak a second language, in some quarters it is not looked upon favoribly.

So Serena, Venus or any other american making an effort to speak French or Italian should be commanded, especially French.
French people do not make it easy for non-speakers to learn the language, they make the non-speaker self conscious and embarrased to make a mistake.
In fact although, French, Spanish and Italian have the same latin root, you will find very few ATP or WTA spanish and italian players speaking French.

Sammo
May 19th, 2012, 12:15 AM
And how on Earth am I supposed to know that you're being sarcastic? You could be a deluded Williams fan and I wouldn't know!

EDIT: OMG I'm sorry, I think that the one who is becoming delusional is me because of worrying about delusional fans saying delusional stuff... :sobbing: Crazy fans everywhere :hysteric: I should leave GM for some time...

Dav.
May 19th, 2012, 12:25 AM
And how on Earth am I supposed to know that you're being sarcastic? You could be a deluded Williams fan and I wouldn't know!

:lol: I'm pretty neutral on both camps.

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 12:27 AM
WTF, Hingis is fluent in French, Swiss German (+ German), Czech (+ Slovakian), and English. That >>> English and Italian
I am NOT trying to downplay Hingis credentials, but if you put them in proper perspective, they are not as impressive it sounds

Czech and Slovakian languages were her native tongue before she emigrated to Switzerland
In Switzerland, they speak both French and English

I don't know how Swiss German and Germany German are different and how you can tell which one Hingis is speaking at a given time
I can't whether some of the player whose primary language is not English speak US english, Aussie English or British English?

Foxy
May 19th, 2012, 12:35 AM
Martina's broken English is horrible. Why do you think she's not a commentator. The stations gave her a try at it and she was splitting verbs and omitting verbs and adjectives, etc.

She was horrible. She's like Rafa Nadal, He'll never get a job being a commentator because his accent is too thick and her runs his rrrrrr together too long. :lol:

gmokb
May 19th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Americans are not known to speak a second language, in some quarters it is not looked upon favorily.

Really now, this is news to me.:confused: Pray tell where in the USA it is frown upon to speak another language

The Dawntreader
May 19th, 2012, 12:40 AM
Martina's broken English is horrible. Why do you think she's not a commentator. The stations gave her a try at it and she was splitting verbs and omitting verbs and adjectives, etc.

She was horrible. She's like Rafa Nadal, He'll never get a job being a commentator because his accent is too thick and her runs his rrrrrr together too long. :lol:

For some reason, I feel like Nadal's English has gotten worse. Probably a confidence thing.

I find Hingis's English pretty good. She's hardly seamless, but she's conversational, not contrived and rather articulate in a second language. I was impressed with how useful her English was at 16/17.

Venus's Italian is pretty impressive for a non-European. However, I think Hantuchova is still unrivalled in languages mastery though on tour.

Sam L
May 19th, 2012, 12:42 AM
Venus. :hearts: I can understand some words. I would love to learn Italian. Easiest transition from French also.

tonybotz
May 19th, 2012, 12:45 AM
what's more impressive is that she UNDERSTOOD the woman! Venus, truly a one in a million sports superstar.

DefyingGravity
May 19th, 2012, 12:52 AM
Really now, this is news to me.:confused: Pray tell where in the USA it is frown upon to speak another language

Ohio.

I should know; I grew up speaking English and Spanish, and the minute I speak Spanish in public, I get these weird looks. It's part of the "We speak Amurrican" crowd.

I've worked on Italian and French, but it seems as though I can only read those two languages as well as I can speak Spanish, write, and listen in Spanish.

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 01:02 AM
Ohio.

I should know; I grew up speaking English and Spanish, and the minute I speak Spanish in public, I get these weird looks. It's part of the "We speak Amurrican" crowd.

I've worked on Italian and French, but it seems as though I can only read those two languages as well as I can speak Spanish, write, and listen in Spanish.
I thought that was a rethorical question from gmokb , I guess he was serious.

A quick google search will return plenty of results regarding this.
Concerns come academia as well as business, all worrying about US competiveness.

Even in politics, knowing a seond language is a liabilit, John Kerry was accussed by republican not only of looking French, but he spoke French.
Mitt Romey does speak some French, but he would not admit it because it might alianate his base support.
Joh Hantsman, anothe republican presidential candiate, was ridiculed by his rivals for speaking Chinese, they even made a commercial to drive home their point, complete with Chinese music in the background

Ahtought English is not threaten, there are measures in many states and counties to make English the official Language... in reactionary move to languages spoken by new immigrants.

Sam L
May 19th, 2012, 01:08 AM
I can see what the American posters are saying about the US but languages like Spanish and Chinese are very popular in the global marketplace right now.

But no one really learns Italian unless if you're retired or you're really, really interested in Italy and the arts or you're sleeping with an Italian. French is becoming a bit like that too unfortunately, at least in Australia.

Pops Maellard
May 19th, 2012, 01:09 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lynei7WlXm1qk4qwvo1_500.gif

DefyingGravity
May 19th, 2012, 01:10 AM
I can see what the American posters are saying about the US but languages like Spanish and Chinese are very popular in the global marketplace right now.

But no one really learns Italian unless if you're retired or you're really, really interested in Italy and the arts or you're sleeping with an Italian. French is becoming a bit like that too unfortunately, at least in Australia.

Yeah, being a voice student makes it easier to want to learn these other languages, especially Italian, German, and French.

I would just appreciate not getting dirty looks from people if I'm speaking Spanish!

LefandePatty
May 19th, 2012, 01:11 AM
How did serena speak French at RG?

zrM_8yvW09I

"Prochain année je voudrais faire encore." :confused: :spit: :rolls:
That doesn't make any sense but it's cute. :hug:

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 01:18 AM
zrM_8yvW09I

"Prochain année je voudrais faire encore." :confused: :spit: :rolls:
That doesn't make any sense but it's cute. :hug:
Actually, if someone else, who is not a English speaker said that, Americans or Assies would be more forgiving.
With French, it is a zero-sum proposition; which explain why very people who did speak the language growing up bother to lear it.

Althought those words are in the perfect order, a reasonable audience can still make sense them.
Rome, she meant " Next year, I'll do it again" or " Next year, I'll come back and do it again" or a cocky Serena would say, "Next year, I will repeat"

xcrtbckhnd
May 19th, 2012, 01:18 AM
I love Venus!!!!!

BlueTrees
May 19th, 2012, 01:43 AM
zrM_8yvW09I

"Prochain année je voudrais faire encore." :confused: :spit: :rolls:
That doesn't make any sense but it's cute. :hug:

I laugh every time I see that. I just can't help myself, sorry. :lol: The accent is so bad. :o Especially the way she says "année" :tape: But I'm sure she's better now, that was 10 years ago. :p

njnetswill
May 19th, 2012, 01:57 AM
I would just appreciate not getting dirty looks from people if I'm speaking Spanish!

Are you still in Ohio?

I'm from California so the idea of people staring because they hear someone speaking Spanish sounds ridiculous and backwards to me.

DefyingGravity
May 19th, 2012, 02:50 AM
Are you still in Ohio?

I'm from California so the idea of people staring because they hear someone speaking Spanish sounds ridiculous and backwards to me.

Yeah, and I was born in California, so I understand that, haha. That's why I learned Spanish at home in the first place. Los gringos que no me entienden...me sonrie cuando ocurre.

jrollaneres25
May 19th, 2012, 03:00 AM
That was cool, still needs a bit more gesticulation to sound like a legit Italian.


:lol: Just kidding, that was awesome. I've been learning Italian for 8 months and I wished I was as fluent as she is, I should be ashamed cause I'm Spanish and the languages are very similar :facepalm: But anyway I understood like 90% of it, I guess that's OK.

Can someone please translate??:lol:

the jamierbelyea
May 19th, 2012, 03:14 AM
Are you still in Ohio?

I'm from California so the idea of people staring because they hear someone speaking Spanish sounds ridiculous and backwards to me.

I think in some corners it's not so much that you speak another language, it's the assumption they make afterward that English is not your first language, that's where the looks come from, just an offshoot of xenophobia.

hobahobaspirit
May 19th, 2012, 03:18 AM
Times are slowly changing with globalization. In my school, everyone speaks fluently 3 languages or more. Speaking many languages is a necessity today, not a luxury.

Malva
May 19th, 2012, 03:35 AM
A quick google search will return plenty of results regarding this.
Concerns come academia as well as business, all worrying about US competiveness.

Even in politics, knowing a seond language is a liabilit, John Kerry was accussed by republican not only of looking French, but he spoke French.
Mitt Romey does speak some French, but he would not admit it because it might alianate his base support.
Joh Hantsman, anothe republican presidential candiate, was ridiculed by his rivals for speaking Chinese, they even made a commercial to drive home their point, complete with Chinese music in the background

Ahtought English is not threaten, there are measures in many states and counties to make English the official Language... in reactionary move to languages spoken by new immigrants.

As a reality check, I suggest you listen less to media and rather trust your own senses: come and live here for a while. What you are saying is a complete distortion of reality.

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 03:53 AM
As a reality check, I suggest you listen less to media and rather trust your own senses: come and live here for a while. What you are saying is a complete distortion of reality.
Which is of the points I made is a distortion?



Live where?

You probably need to get away from anecdotal evidence in where you live and look at this at macro level
And BTW, the comments about John Kerry, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are all true
It is also true many communities want to pass laws to make English the official in reaction to language spoken by immigrants

matty
May 19th, 2012, 04:00 AM
WTF, Hingis is fluent in French, Swiss German (+ German), Czech (+ Slovakian), and English. That >>> English and Italian

it's pretty common for europeans to speak 2, 3, even 4 languages--all those countries in close proximity to eachother. In the states we just have the mostly english speaking canadians and then there's mexico way down south -- lots of americnas take spanish in high school, but we don't really get to try it out unless you live down in the south where there are many spanish speaking people

Sam L
May 19th, 2012, 04:16 AM
Americans are not known to speak a second language, in some quarters it is not looked upon favoribly.

So Serena, Venus or any other american making an effort to speak French or Italian should be commanded, especially French.
French people do not make it easy for non-speakers to learn the language, they make the non-speaker self conscious and embarrased to make a mistake.
In fact although, French, Spanish and Italian have the same latin root, you will find very few ATP or WTA spanish and italian players speaking French.

Spoken French is harder than Spanish and Italian. That's probably why. It's because spoken French evolved very differently from written French. Although, French and Italian share more in lexical similarity than say Italian and Spanish.

Veesus
May 19th, 2012, 04:18 AM
She did very well :shrug:

Quick translation of what was said:

Q: Venus, what did you like best about your game/your performance?
A: I don't know :o I am happy that I won against such a strong player. It was difficult today because it was windy. I am very happy.
Q: Can you return to your best form?
A: For me, that isn't important. My life at this point is very different [than before]. I must live day by day. I must try to do everything that I can do to win and to stay healthy. I don't know how it will go tomorrow, but I will try.

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 04:29 AM
Spoken French is harder than Spanish and Italian. That's probably why. It's because spoken French evolved very differently from written French. Although, French and Italian share more in lexical similarity than say Italian and Spanish.
I leanred spanish, although I forgot it now; bu I did find the language structure and grammar very similar to French.

Example, adjectives and articles are not only gender-sensitive, according to the noun they apply to, but also can also singular or plural.

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 04:31 AM
She did very well :shrug:

Quick translation of what was said:

Q: Venus, what did you like best about your game/your performance?
A: I don't know :o I am happy that I won against such a strong player. It was difficult today because there was wind. I am very happy.
Q: Can you return to your best form?
A: For me, that isn't important. My life at this point is very different [than before]. I must live day by day. I must try to do everything that I can do to win and to stay healthy. I don't know how it will go tomorrow, but I will try.
Thanks.

Venus is always thoughtful... in any language

melodynelson
May 19th, 2012, 05:23 AM
Americans are not known to speak a second language, in some quarters it is not looked upon favoribly.

So Serena, Venus or any other american making an effort to speak French or Italian should be commanded, especially French.
French people do not make it easy for non-speakers to learn the language, they make the non-speaker self conscious and embarrased to make a mistake.
In fact although, French, Spanish and Italian have the same latin root, you will find very few ATP or WTA spanish and italian players speaking French.

I'm studying French and German in school, and even though I technically know French much better than German, I feel more comfortable speaking German because it's easier and I feel like natives judge me FAR less than native French speakers.

I don't speak Italian, but I understood this interview, it was pretty simple. I think she did well, but surely it can't be that strange for Americans to be learning foreign languages, I see several or Canadians here in Europe learning.

I really need to hear Serena speaking French again.

Libertango
May 19th, 2012, 05:48 AM
:eek: :hearts: Fantastic

Venus :worship:

Fantasy Hero
May 19th, 2012, 05:55 AM
i know italians who would make much more errors than she does :bowdown: italian is probably one of the most absurd languages in the world, so i'm really surprised to hear her great pronunciation and she's so fluent :hearts:
congrats

égalité
May 19th, 2012, 06:01 AM
Her Italian is really good :hearts:

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 06:14 AM
I'm studying French and German in school, and even though I technically know French much better than German, I feel more comfortable speaking German because it's easier and I feel like natives judge me FAR less than native French speakers.

.

I made this very point several times.
I am an American now, but I grew up in a former French colony where the official language is French.

Maddox
May 19th, 2012, 06:16 AM
This lady :worship:

Thanks for the link

the jamierbelyea
May 19th, 2012, 06:18 AM
I thought that was a rethorical question from gmokb , I guess he was serious.

A quick google search will return plenty of results regarding this.
Concerns come academia as well as business, all worrying about US competiveness.

Even in politics, knowing a seond language is a liabilit, John Kerry was accussed by republican not only of looking French, but he spoke French.
Mitt Romey does speak some French, but he would not admit it because it might alianate his base support.
Joh Hantsman, anothe republican presidential candiate, was ridiculed by his rivals for speaking Chinese, they even made a commercial to drive home their point, complete with Chinese music in the background

Ahtought English is not threaten, there are measures in many states and counties to make English the official Language... in reactionary move to languages spoken by new immigrants.

Which is of the points I made is a distortion?



Live where?

You probably need to get away from anecdotal evidence in where you live and look at this at macro level
And BTW, the comments about John Kerry, Mitt Romney and Jon Huntsman are all true
It is also true many communities want to pass laws to make English the official in reaction to language spoken by immigrants

The ad about Jon Huntsman was not put on by his political rivals, but a group of Ron Paul supporters who did it on their own. After the ad was released Ron Paul said via a spokesman that the ad was disgusting and should be taken down immediately.

While Newt Ginrich released an attack ad alluding to the fact that Mitt Romney speaks French just like John Kerry, this political stunt was pretty much blasted by the media on both sides of the coin. It's even funnier still that Gingrich has a doctorate in European Studies and lived in the Loire Valley as a youth.

Right now with Mitt and back then with Kerry any allusions to their French speaking abilities were far from dealbreakers or hot button issues spoken at debates or any news outlets with merits. So, while sure politically there may be some people out there who will dislike the fact they know a second language just as many, and most likely a ton more respect this fact.

tennisbum79
May 19th, 2012, 06:39 AM
The ad about Jon Huntsman was not put on by his political rivals, but a group of Ron Paul supporters who did it on their own. After the ad was released Ron Paul said via a spokesman that the ad was disgusting and should be taken down immediately.

While Newt Ginrich released an attack ad alluding to the fact that Mitt Romney speaks French just like John Kerry, this political stunt was pretty much blasted by the media on both sides of the coin. It's even funnier still that Gingrich has a doctorate in European Studies and lived in the Loire Valley as a youth.

Right now with Mitt and back then with Kerry any allusions to their French speaking abilities were far from dealbreakers or hot button issues spoken at debates or any news outlets with merits. So, while sure politically there may be some people out there who will dislike the fact they know a second language just as many, and most likely a ton more respect this fact.

I was not making the point that the political elite is not aware of the importance of a second language, especially Spanish in North America.
They are doing this because they know their voters have contempt for and hostility toward foreign language , especially Spanish, which they equate with illegal immigration from Latin America, read Mexico.

Although they know that foreign language is an asset for the competitiveness of the USA, in the short term, they'd rather exploit the hostility towards it to gain votes.


As to the ad against Jon Huntsman, that is the beauty of super PAC, since theoretically, they are separate from the candidate, they provide a deniability by the candidate if there is push back, but the damage has already been done by awakening motivation and passion among voters who are sensitive and agree with the contents of the ad, even it had limited airing.


SuperPAC will dominate this 2012 campaign, so saying they are not associated with the candidate therefore it does not matter is misreading this campaign.


It is with that backdrop that Rick Santorum stated while campaigning in Puerto Rico, it the commonwealth wishes to become the 51st state of the union, they should make English the official language. Although he Santorum a blow back from the island, his main audience was actually on the main land; he scored point among those.

FORZA SARITA
May 19th, 2012, 10:04 AM
very very good :)
ST showed also another interview with Serena where she said she likes gelato al pistacchio e limone and then

Q: Inaudible ice cream? Can you tell us something?
WILLIAMS: No. I haven't had gelato for ages .. I'm allergic and that sad.

get it together :facepalm:

The Daviator
May 19th, 2012, 12:13 PM
Wow, very impressive. Venus :yeah:

Vuvurenka
May 19th, 2012, 12:34 PM
Queen Venus :hearts:

I wish I could learn how to speak Italian as well :sobbing:

smarties
May 19th, 2012, 12:35 PM
not bad but far from fluent...