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kangwoo
May 18th, 2012, 02:15 PM
who should get the remaining wc?

overated mirza has applied for WC and hope ioc/itf will not give wc to her

ChrisCologne
May 18th, 2012, 02:29 PM
I think Mirza has a good chance getting this one.

It´s due to the fact that she and an Indian guy will have a serious chance for a medal in the mixed, they will give a singles WC as they probably did with Black ages ago.

Bartoli won´t get one for sure, Williams won´t need one after Paris this year she´ll be around 30 or 40, if not better.

When it comes to Date over Mirza, it´s not easy. Hopes might be that Date gets in directly with so many above her going out due to the nations having more than the 4-6 girls named, so Date has a shot if she goes around 60 and rises 10-20 places from where she is know in the forthcoming events. She has a pretty good shot if you ask me

America or South America won´t need a WC if it comes to Williams directly qualifying and Dulko rising to top10 after the French, all possible. Maybe Mirza gets the Australian/Asian WC, same as Date to rise the Asian qualified nations. Scheepers wasn´t interested as Grandin was quoted she was unwilling to go, same as the men on the South African side, I suppose. Wasn´t it Kevin Andersson who was quoted not going?

ChrisCologne
May 18th, 2012, 02:30 PM
Barthel won´t get one just for rising, anyway, by the way, if there are already 3 girls from Germany in.

Chip.
May 18th, 2012, 02:33 PM
Vinas is practically in anyway.

kangwoo
May 18th, 2012, 02:38 PM
Barthel won´t get one just for rising, anyway, by the way, if there are already 3 girls from Germany in.

quota for each country is 4...if petrovic out then georges in, barthel next

chingching
May 18th, 2012, 02:40 PM
Hsieh if she doesnt make it. Tatishvili. Bertens. Minella (although she doesn't deserve it). Amanmuradova. Morita/Date Krumm (WG1 and no players :rolleyes:). Babos. Tsurenko. Voegele. Ormaechea

Elwin.
May 18th, 2012, 02:44 PM
Krajicek also applied for one.
She missed the Olympics in 2008, she qualified but got injured 1,5 week before it started and had to undergo surgery.
This year she was close to qualify for the Olympics, but she got injured last week and had knee surgery today. She probably can't qualify anymore.
Don't think they will give her on though.

DragonFlame
May 18th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Venus is already in the olympics now right? Since her rankingprojection is at #52 already now? Or did she not fulfill fedcup requirements? Just curious.

Paldias
May 18th, 2012, 02:48 PM
What about Wozniak?

jrm
May 18th, 2012, 04:25 PM
They can give WC to a country that already has 4 participants?

Meelis
May 18th, 2012, 04:38 PM
Venus does not need wild-card.
Barthel does not need wild-card (if she will be nominated by the Germans) / can´t get wild-card (if she will be not nominated by the Germans).
Bartoli and Scheepers are not eligible.

They can give WC to a country that already has 4 participants?

No

iWill
May 18th, 2012, 04:51 PM
Its really a shame that Bartoli will be left out of the Olympics...they aren't discussing this nearly enough..shes in the top 10 but won't have the chance to compete for a medal because of the rift between her family and the French federation. Its shameful and for what its worth I hope all the French players lose early and badly. I know its not their fault but their federation deserves no tennis medals for the way they have treated that woman.

Shvedbarilescu
May 18th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Its really a shame that Bartoli will be left out of the Olympics...they aren't discussing this nearly enough..shes in the top 10 but won't have the chance to compete for a medal because of the rift between her family and the French federation. Its shameful and for what its worth I hope all the French players lose early and badly. I know its not their fault but their federation deserves no tennis medals for the way they have treated that woman.

The way things are looking there won't be any French players in the draw to lose early or otherwise.

kangwoo
May 18th, 2012, 05:00 PM
let world's tennis laugh at clement the captain, FFT, rezai and paulimer who badmouth bartoli and hollande

Viennalover
May 18th, 2012, 05:05 PM
I bet Kimiko will be the first option for Asian WC.
Don't forget Japan is the only Asian country in Fed Cup Group 1.
ITF can't ignore it.

BTW, Asia got 2 wild cards last time. :dance:
And Venus is already in, Bartoli and Mona is not about WC.

kangwoo
May 19th, 2012, 03:22 PM
I bet Kimiko will be the first option for Asian WC.
Don't forget Japan is the only Asian country in Fed Cup Group 1.
ITF can't ignore it.

BTW, Asia got 2 wild cards last time. :dance:
And Venus is already in, Bartoli and Mona is not about WC.

beijing 2008 asian got 2 maybe because asian was the host country

maybe central,caribean, south american should get wc compare to european players as 1 wc has been given to Luxembourg and another for uruguayan (S american)


venus already passed king and matterksand?
she the only olympic single champion compete this year where heini, dementieva, devenport, capriati and abviously graff has retired

mirzafanindia
May 19th, 2012, 04:48 PM
I think it'll be of no use giving WC to Mirza as she after not playing singles for so long may not do much..But i think it's highly possible as ITF gives it to the countries from which there is minimum participation and INDIA has only Sania Mirza and if she does not get into top 10 in doubles,she will need a WC to play MXD where again India has a chance!!!

Tripp
May 19th, 2012, 06:24 PM
If there was a WC for a player from Argentina it would be for Ormaechea, not Dulko. In fact, I believe she applied for one with the support of Argentina's Tennis Federation.

burn
May 19th, 2012, 06:29 PM
Stefi Vögele for the WC please :hearts:

Hayato
May 19th, 2012, 06:39 PM
Will South America get a 2nd WC? Veronica Cepede already got one?

Ferg
May 19th, 2012, 08:07 PM
Hopefully Kimiko will get one.

Viennalover
May 19th, 2012, 08:12 PM
I think it'll be of no use giving WC to Mirza as she after not playing singles for so long may not do much..But i think it's highly possible as ITF gives it to the countries from which there is minimum participation and INDIA has only Sania Mirza and if she does not get into top 10 in doubles,she will need a WC to play MXD where again India has a chance!!!

I don't think ITF gives Mirza Singles WC only to play Mix.

Cara Black got Singles WC because she was already selected for Doubles being Top 10.
ITF wanted to reduce the number of participants.

So if Mirza is not in OG Doubles,
no meaning for chosing Mirza for singels WC.
I think Mirza has better chance on Doubles WC, being Top doubles player.
(Even her partner will be, who?, so low ranked, thats her field....not singles)

*Jool*
May 19th, 2012, 09:41 PM
KDK ..who else? !

CetkovskaBrazil
May 19th, 2012, 11:26 PM
It's ridiculous Bartoli can't play.

chingching
May 20th, 2012, 04:54 AM
Its Bartoli's own fault that she isn't in the olympics

duhcity
May 20th, 2012, 06:15 AM
Doesn't Germany have it's own stringent Olympic Qualifications.

Kevin.
May 20th, 2012, 06:20 AM
I heard if Mirza plays doubles it would be with Rushmi Chakravarthi

coolfish1103
May 20th, 2012, 06:37 AM
I doubt they would give it to Mirza just for the doubles because it just means another person besides her will take a slot, and it's already pretty limited.

Shonami Slam
May 20th, 2012, 07:37 AM
obziler got in last time as a last minute replacement. im guessing itll happen again this time around.
so doubles players without a singles high enough still have a chance.

ElusiveChanteuse
May 20th, 2012, 08:07 AM
How many WC are there available now?

Kimiko will get one.

kangwoo
May 20th, 2012, 08:45 AM
wc has been awarded so far

LADIES 2 : 1 from uruguay, 1 for luxembourg
MEN 1 : hewitt

coolfish1103
May 20th, 2012, 08:56 AM
There are 6 ITF placements left. Venus should be safe with all those WC and points she got from them.

As of now from the current rankings one can expect WCs for:

Babos - Winning a title and being the 2nd Hungarian
Tatishvili - The only Georgian
Date-Krumm - Top Japanese w/no Japanese in and is the oldest on tour
Keothavong - Great Britain duh?
Daniilidou - The only Greece
Krajicek or Bertens - Top Netherlanders and it looks like Bertens now since Krajicek is hurt again

However, if any of the following falls below the secure 56, those ITF placements should go to them.

Paszek - The only Austrian
Arvidsson - The only Swiss
Wozniak - The only Canadian
Ukraine - The only Ukraine
Hsieh - The only Taiwanese and actually has a title in 2012, even if its considered as fluke

Viennalover
May 20th, 2012, 09:23 AM
There are 6 ITF placements left. Venus should be safe with all those WC and points she got from them.

As of now from the current rankings one can expect WCs for:

Babos - Winning a title and being the 2nd Hungarian
Tatishvili - The only Georgian
Date-Krumm - Top Japanese w/no Japanese in and is the oldest on tour
Keothavong - Great Britain duh?
Daniilidou - The only Greece
Krajicek or Bertens - Top Netherlanders and it looks like Bertens now since Krajicek is hurt again

However, if any of the following falls below the secure 56, those ITF placements should go to them.

Paszek - The only Austrian
Arvidsson - The only Swiss
Wozniak - The only Canadian
Ukraine - The only Ukraine
Hsieh - The only Taiwanese and actually has a title in 2012, even if its considered as fluke

WC are not only base on the rankings but geographical balance and the contribution for ITF.
So 3WC for European won't happen since there are tons of European already in Top56.
That's why Asia got 2WC last time and actually it ended up 3. (Morita, Yung-Jan and Tanasugarn due to Vogt's WD)

I bet 2WC for European + 1 for GB is at most.
Especially Stephanie Vogt (LIE= Liechtenstein) from West Europe has been already selected.

MarkNL
May 20th, 2012, 09:24 AM
Krajicek also applied for one.
She missed the Olympics in 2008, she qualified but got injured 1,5 week before it started and had to undergo surgery.
This year she was close to qualify for the Olympics, but she got injured last week and had knee surgery today. She probably can't qualify anymore.
Don't think they will give her on though.
Yeah, it's a shame because I think she deserves one. But I don't think the commission will think she has reasons enough to give her one... :sad:

coolfish1103
May 20th, 2012, 09:36 AM
WC are not only base on the rankings but geographical balance and the contribution for ITF.
So 3WC for European won't happen since there are tons of European already in Top56.
That's why Asia got 2WC last time and actually it ended up 3. (Morita, Yung-Jan and Tanasugarn due to Vogt's WD)

I bet 2WC for European + 1 for GB is at most.
Especially Stephanie Vogt (LIE= Liechtenstein) from West Europe has been already selected.

Just discussing.

I thought the two that were already placed were based heavily on "geographical appearances" ?

The 6 ITF placements are awarded based on the following:

1. Recognized World Rankings
2. NOC represented
3. Number of players on site
4. Geographical location

I would not be surprised if the Europeans get more placements because the players rankings are too low for some of the NOCs. Rule 3 actually put lots of NOCs in disadvantage because they are good in tracks and some other sports. Unless they want to award it to someone in Asia like Chang from Taiwan or Morita from Japan for more Asian presence?

guichard
May 20th, 2012, 10:34 AM
There are 6 ITF placements left. Venus should be safe with all those WC and points she got from them.

As of now from the current rankings one can expect WCs for:

Babos - Winning a title and being the 2nd Hungarian
Tatishvili - The only Georgian
Date-Krumm - Top Japanese w/no Japanese in and is the oldest on tour
Keothavong - Great Britain duh?
Daniilidou - The only Greece
Krajicek or Bertens - Top Netherlanders and it looks like Bertens now since Krajicek is hurt again

However, if any of the following falls below the secure 56, those ITF placements should go to them.

Paszek - The only Austrian
Arvidsson - The only Swiss
Wozniak - The only Canadian
Ukraine - The only Ukraine
Hsieh - The only Taiwanese and actually has a title in 2012, even if its considered as fluke


Babos, Wozniak, Arvidsson, Hseigh, Bonadarenko(UKR) will most likely qualify with their own ranking. Same with Paszek but she needs an exception from the ITF (according to her federation no official decision yet)

Babolatpro880
May 20th, 2012, 12:36 PM
Babos, Wozniak, Arvidsson, Hseigh, Bonadarenko(UKR) will most likely qualify with their own ranking. Same with Paszek but she needs an exception from the ITF (according to her federation no official decision yet)

The person you quoted specifically said IF THEY FALL out of the top 56.

GeeTee
May 20th, 2012, 12:46 PM
Are any of these poll options actually eligible?

killerqueen
May 20th, 2012, 12:52 PM
I'm confused, why would Barthel need a WC? Her ranking isn't going to drop out of entry places, and if Petko stays injured, she's #4 of remaining Germans.

Babolatpro880
May 20th, 2012, 12:55 PM
Are any of these poll options actually eligible?

Date, and I think Dulko. Other than that, no.

flareon
May 20th, 2012, 01:01 PM
I think Anne Keothavong as best brit will get one.

guichard
May 20th, 2012, 01:05 PM
The person you quoted specifically said IF THEY FALL out of the top 56.
Babos is on the first tier list. Plus and more importantly they don't give direct WC to the "next in" and I included a detail about Paszek

guichard
May 20th, 2012, 01:11 PM
I'm confused, why would Barthel need a WC? Her ranking isn't going to drop out of entry places, and if Petko stays injured, she's #4 of remaining Germans.
Germany has extra requirement. Top 24 or Grand Slam QF/Premier mandatory--Premier 5 semi. So she is not eligible for WC but her federation may let her play regardless.

Filipinos
May 20th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Gajdosova won't probably have enough ranking to get direct entry. As Australia is in Fed Cup's World Group and have only 1 player in (Stosur) she has chances to take one of the WCs.

kangwoo
May 20th, 2012, 03:57 PM
I think Anne Keothavong as best brit will get one.

didnt watson target the olympic 2012 single gold medal. how many wc for host country? 4 wc? for keothavong, belly, robson, watson?


Gajdosova won't probably have enough ranking to get direct entry. As Australia is in Fed Cup's World Group and have only 1 player in (Stosur) she has chances to take one of the WCs.

mayb for oceania, better gives to nz player...gajdosova the doublebagel 2012?

Germany has extra requirement. Top 24 or Grand Slam QF/Premier mandatory--Premier 5 semi. So she is not eligible for WC but her federation may let her play regardless.

kerber uso sf
petkovic ao,uso qf (still injuring)
lisicki wo sf
georges only 4r gs but sf in madrid 2011
barthel good performance 2012

after all only georges and barthel are real german while kerber, lisicki are polish, petko serbs

CameronCopper
May 20th, 2012, 04:40 PM
I think Mirza has a good chance getting this one.

It´s due to the fact that she and an Indian guy will have a serious chance for a medal in the mixed, they will give a singles WC as they probably did with Black ages ago.

Bartoli won´t get one for sure, Williams won´t need one after Paris this year she´ll be around 30 or 40, if not better.

When it comes to Date over Mirza, it´s not easy. Hopes might be that Date gets in directly with so many above her going out due to the nations having more than the 4-6 girls named, so Date has a shot if she goes around 60 and rises 10-20 places from where she is know in the forthcoming events. She has a pretty good shot if you ask me

America or South America won´t need a WC if it comes to Williams directly qualifying and Dulko rising to top10 after the French, all possible. Maybe Mirza gets the Australian/Asian WC, same as Date to rise the Asian qualified nations. Scheepers wasn´t interested as Grandin was quoted she was unwilling to go, same as the men on the South African side, I suppose. Wasn´t it Kevin Andersson who was quoted not going?

I wouldn't say that. Top players will participate on mixed doubles also, such as Serena and Andy etc... That happening, their chance for a medal seems to me really small.

kangwoo
May 20th, 2012, 04:52 PM
in delhi 2010,

in badminton mixed double IND pair was seeded #2 and got thrashed by unseeded pair from malaysia combined former no1 men&women double player

if serena team up with any1,mirza and co has no chance at all
if serena team play alone against mirza and co, mirza still has no chance...SERENA CAN BEAT ANY IND MALE PLAYER AND CAN DOUBLE BAGEL MIRZA