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joăo.
May 17th, 2012, 08:26 PM
Maria :cheer: Please improve your game though :unsure:

Ana :sad: :hug:

GoofyDuck
May 17th, 2012, 08:26 PM
Hit to Ana's BH and you win

Cosmic Voices
May 17th, 2012, 08:26 PM
masha your serve tonight :help:
whole match was a hot mess

first set was full of drama, ana's choking, masha's dfs
WTA at it's prime :bowdown:

gonna have to step it up against vee

sharahoudini this week :sobbing:

tennisfan5
May 17th, 2012, 08:26 PM
the more things change, the more they stay the same for ana

young_gunner913
May 17th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Someone needs to go do the heimlich maneuver on Ana before she dies. :o

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 08:27 PM
:hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts:

venus will win the QF tho.

doomsday
May 17th, 2012, 08:27 PM
She beat her just mentally on Ana's best surface and in straights. I think it says a lot

InsideOut.
May 17th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Choke-tastic. Early exit at RG too now I guess.

Balltossovic
May 17th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Served for 4-0, had 26 set points.

:sad:

flareon
May 17th, 2012, 08:27 PM
well done masha another match under her belt.

Monzanator
May 17th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Ana collapsed plain and simple. Maria had no business winning that 1st set with that awful start :o

W/UE
Ana 19/32
Maria 30/30

John.
May 17th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Ana :facepalm: That 1st set

sweetadri06
May 17th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Once Ana choked those 6 setpoints, that's all she wrote. NID :shrug:

StoneRose
May 17th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Whatever way you look it, this was just expected. Don't know why people in the poll thought otherwise. Maria is good on clay #2 in the world as opposed to ~=20, really NID.

Libertango
May 17th, 2012, 08:28 PM
Following on the scoreboard, looks like Ana had lots of chances?

Craig.
May 17th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Fuck yesssssssssss. Decent stats for Maria...surprisingly.

Pick it up against Vee.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Ana didnt choke. Maria started the match with many df's... then NID

StoneRose
May 17th, 2012, 08:29 PM
:hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts::hearts:

venus will win the QF tho.No, where do you get that idea from?

volta
May 17th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Ana, you are useless and it's even worse when you are ahead :rolleyes:

vozas
May 17th, 2012, 08:29 PM
NID. She won it mentally, because she's miles away from her Stuttgart form.

Now go beat the old lady.

HRHoliviasmith
May 17th, 2012, 08:30 PM
Dunce. :rolleyes: What a waste of a forehand.

Go Venus.

dsanders06
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
Decent enough. :)

I actually felt more confident when Maria went down 3-0 than before the match started :lol: Ivanovic has an uncanny ability to always lower her level of play to that of her opponent when her opponent makes a horrible start - happened so many times, most recently against Venus in Miami.

Ana showed some good stuff and seems on the brink of potentially having a breakthrough run at RG ... but then again she's been in that position (nearly-but-not-quite-all the way back) for about 18 months now. Normal players would take the positives from giving the best two players in the world a tough match in back-to-back weeks, but we know Ana is no normal player :lol:

Feyd
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
The match was NID. Maria just gave Ana a gazillion of chances to drag the match yet Ana still squandered them all.

Balltossovic
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
Ana didnt choke. Maria started the match with many df's... then NID
Ana played great all points to GET to set point, once she had set point, she choked. Basically bent over and said, "Please, Maria, fuck me up the ass."

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
No, where do you get that idea from?

Venus played great today and Maria didnt :p

Vincey!
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
Maria played really badly at some points, but she was able to hang in there and play the important points really well.

You can clearly see why Sharapova has got back on top and Ivanovic hadn't done it yet. Ana couldn't hold her nerves on the key moments.

Should be a great match against Venus!

BluSthil
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
As so often happens, determination and true grit wins the day, and Sharapova does it again. Tomorrow's match between Sharapova and Venus should be loads of fun to watch.

I like Sharapova to win this in a 3 setter.

Sharakim
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
Awesome Maria! Now beat Williams The Elder

Ana...what can I say? You earn another badge.

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/9950/wtasealdone.jpg

Balltossovic
May 17th, 2012, 08:31 PM
Dunce. :rolleyes:

Go Venus.
Too nice a word.

miffedmax
May 17th, 2012, 08:33 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lz8n5tNiyp1r1t1qk.gif

Now the QF is an all-LOB Queen battle! :bounce:

Cajka
May 17th, 2012, 08:34 PM
Choke-tastic. Early exit at RG too now I guess.

No, wasting 6 set points has nothing to do with her self-confidence, she was simply helpless and couldn't do anything against those brilliant unforced errors and double faults coming from Maria. Just ask Sammy01 and Corswandt. :shrug:

Well done, Maria. She needs to improve, Venus is not Ana. Win the whole thing somehow, girl. :sad:

Slutiana
May 17th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Hilarious. :lol: The 6 SPs missed were strangely not a choke. Ivanovic got her lead through Martha's idiotic errors and DFs, and a couple of decent serves per game which were handled horribly by Martha. She literally barely won a point when the two went pace to pace, either missing easy shots or barely clearing the baseline. When the SPs came, Martha stopped idiotically overhitting her returns and Ana did what she had been doing all match off the ground.

It picked up after that, but there were still huge lapses from Martha that a better player would've been taken advantage of.

LeRoy.
May 17th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Cp6uja's VIP is CRAP ?

Shivank17
May 17th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Ana :hug:

Maria pls improve :facepalm: Where did the serve vanish ffs? :o :facepalm:

Libertango
May 17th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Wait... Ana had 6 SPs?!

Vikapower
May 17th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Decent match, 30-30 is good.

HRHoliviasmith
May 17th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Ana played great all points to GET to set point, once she had set point, she choked. Basically bent over and said, "Please, Maria, fuck me up the ass."

in a nutshell. :sad:

NeKo
May 17th, 2012, 08:37 PM
So, she is exactly like Cirstea.

hankqq
May 17th, 2012, 08:37 PM
pathetic choke from Ana :lol: :o but that's to be expected these days.

StoneRose
May 17th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Venus played great today and Maria didnt :pSure but Venus isn't great every day. And Maria will step it up if she needs to.

madmax
May 17th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Ana played great all points to GET to set point, once she had set point, she choked. Basically bent over and said, "Please, Maria, fuck me up the ass."

I'd love to see that:drool:

Craig.
May 17th, 2012, 08:39 PM
Hilarious. :lol: The 6 SPs missed were strangely not a choke. Ivanovic got her lead through Martha's idiotic errors and DFs, and a couple of decent serves per game which were handled horribly by Martha. She literally barely won a point when the two went pace to pace, either missing easy shots or barely clearing the baseline. When the SPs came, Martha stopped idiotically overhitting her returns and Ana did what she had been doing all match off the ground.

It picked up after that, but there were still huge lapses from Martha that a better player would've been taken advantage of.

This. Let's not pretend Ajde played some GOAT set to get to those SPs.

Maria Croft
May 17th, 2012, 08:39 PM
Looks like Ivanovic couldn't win an important point to save her life.

Very decent from Maria. It's not great, but it's not bad either. Hope she cuts down on those df's though.

Nalby fan
May 17th, 2012, 08:40 PM
Oh Ana. :o

There just aren't enough facepalms in the world to describe that match.

Break My Rapture
May 17th, 2012, 08:40 PM
I don't really think Ivanovic choked. Sharapova was just gift-wrapping numerous points to her with never-ending stretches of errors and DFs. I was actually impressed by how Ajde's BH held up during the BH rallies, considering Sharapova is supposed to have far away the better BH.

Two thoughts on Maria from this match:

1) This match proved she is not the best returner, still way too inconsistent. In that game at 5-4 first set she was continously dumping returns into the net on deuces and Ads, and those VIP serves really weren't all that either. Some of her BH returns were dropping short too. She was really helping VIP not to choke but Ivanovic's inability to hold firm eventually prevailed. :lol:
2) Maria is not on course for peaking at RG in my opinion. Before the clay season started, I said she should schedule differently than last year in order to not peak prematurely like she did in Rome last year. This year she added another tournament and now she seems to have peaked in Stuttgart with her level visibly regressing the deeper we are in the clay season. Today was unimpressive from her on a lot of accounts IMO.

Slutiana
May 17th, 2012, 08:42 PM
Ana played great all points to GET to set point, once she had set point, she choked. Basically bent over and said, "Please, Maria, fuck me up the ass."
Nope. Most of Ivanovic's points to set up SP were won by Martha making return errors or an easy one-two punch. On the set points Martha took pace off and put every return in deep. Ana crumbled in the neutral rallies on set point as she had done all set.

atominside
May 17th, 2012, 08:42 PM
I don't really think Ivanovic choked. Sharapova was just gift-wrapping numerous points to her with never-ending stretches of errors and DFs. I was actually impressed by how Ajde's BH held up during the BH rallies, considering Sharapova is supposed to have far away the better BH.

Two thoughts on Maria from this match:

1) This match proved she is not the best returner, still way too inconsistent. In that game at 5-4 first set she was continously dumping returns into the net on deuces and Ads, and those VIP serves really weren't all that either. Some of her BH returns were dropping short too.
2) Maria is not on course for peaking at RG in my opinion. Before the clay season started, I said she should schedule differently than last year in order to not peak prematurely like she did in Rome last year. This year she added another tournament and now she seems to have peaked in Stuttgart with her level visibly regressing the deeper we are in the clay season. Today was unimpressive from her on a lot of accounts IMO.

your opinion. so you're saying because she peaked in stuttgart , there's no way she'll get back that form :confused:

Cajka
May 17th, 2012, 08:42 PM
I'd love to see that:drool:

You saw it, it's not the way you wanted that to be, but that was it. Ana sending first serves that were slower than some of Maria's second serve and then just sitting there and hoping for Maria to miss it.

Asta
May 17th, 2012, 08:42 PM
Poor Anci :(

madmax
May 17th, 2012, 08:42 PM
I don't really think Ivanovic choked. Sharapova was just gift-wrapping numerous points to her with never-ending stretches of errors and DFs. I was actually impressed by how Ajde's BH held up during the BH rallies, considering Sharapova is supposed to have far away the better BH.

Two thoughts on Maria from this match:

1) This match proved she is not the best returner, still way too inconsistent. In that game at 5-4 first set she was continously dumping returns into the net on deuces and Ads, and those VIP serves really weren't all that either. Some of her BH returns were dropping short too. She was really helping VIP not to choke but Ivanovic's inability to hold firm eventually prevailed. :lol:
2) Maria is not on course for peaking at RG in my opinion. Before the clay season started, I said she should schedule differently than last year in order to not peak prematurely like she did in Rome last year. This year she added another tournament and now she seems to have peaked in Stuttgart with her level visibly regressing the deeper we are in the clay season. Today was unimpressive from her on a lot of accounts IMO.

she had 30-30 W/UE ratio today...from your gospel it sounds like this was the worst match ever. Please

LenaDMania0003
May 17th, 2012, 08:43 PM
Maria :yeah:
Very slow start, but raised her level when it needed
Saving many SPs (in the 1st set) was simply awesome

Ana :hug: some brilliant shots but backhand :help:

TuxedoSlam
May 17th, 2012, 08:43 PM
That last point summed it up quite nicely. Ana netting an easy backhand.

This wasn't a quality match, but the amount of drama and pheromones made it my favourite Rome match so far.

atominside
May 17th, 2012, 08:44 PM
she had 30-30 W/UE ratio today...from your gospel it sounds like this was the worst match ever. Please

+1

TennisAddict84
May 17th, 2012, 08:45 PM
Good job to Maria for playing the bigger points better and toughing it out mentally. Ana has all the physical tools to be in the top 10 again, BUT mentally she's just not there. She's too fragile against the top players.

dsanders06
May 17th, 2012, 08:45 PM
I don't really think Ivanovic choked. Sharapova was just gift-wrapping numerous points to her with never-ending stretches of errors and DFs. I was actually impressed by how Ajde's BH held up during the BH rallies, considering Sharapova is supposed to have far away the better BH.

Two thoughts on Maria from this match:

1) This match proved she is not the best returner, still way too inconsistent. In that game at 5-4 first set she was continously dumping returns into the net on deuces and Ads, and those VIP serves really weren't all that either. Some of her BH returns were dropping short too. She was really helping VIP not to choke but Ivanovic's inability to hold firm eventually prevailed. :lol:
2) Maria is not on course for peaking at RG in my opinion. Before the clay season started, I said she should schedule differently than last year in order to not peak prematurely like she did in Rome last year. This year she added another tournament and now she seems to have peaked in Stuttgart with her level visibly regressing the deeper we are in the clay season. Today was unimpressive from her on a lot of accounts IMO.

Yes, one match picked completely at random proves your theory :spit:
Fyi, Maria broke Ivanovic's serve more times than Azarenka did last week.

Latenik
May 17th, 2012, 08:46 PM
Ivanovic +3,5 games ... last match from seven ... Anči, Anči, Anči ... this is surreal

.Andrew.
May 17th, 2012, 08:46 PM
Bad match. Ana shitting on her panties in every chance/opportunity. :lol: Classic.

I feel as Ana is so close to getting there, but yet is so far. :facepalm: She isn't losing as many matches she shouldn't be and is pushing the better players. Someone just needs to tell her it'll be ok when she has BP/SP and whenever she's ahead in a set against the top players. :shrug: Just brainless hitting by the end of the second set :facepalm:

Maria fought harder and was mentally stronger. Wasn't particularly sharp, but definitely deserved the win. Excited for her match against Vee. I know she'll be ready to play better than these first two rounds, that's for sure.

Balltossovic
May 17th, 2012, 08:47 PM
Nope. Most of Ivanovic's points to set up SP were won by Martha making return errors or an easy one-two punch. On the set points Martha took pace off and put every return in deep. Ana crumbled in the neutral rallies on set point as she had done all set.
Not that I saw. I saw Ana attacking, on the base line to get to SP. Big serves. Then when she has SP she's was camped out six feet behind the base line. Don't get me wrong, Maria definitelty stepped up and deserved the win, but Ana handed over that first set on a silver platter. She was even up a mini break in the TB and gave it away:facepalm:

Break My Rapture
May 17th, 2012, 08:50 PM
she had 30-30 W/UE ratio today...from your gospel it sounds like this was the worst match ever. Please
It was a pretty bad match TBH. Maria was spraying errors way too much. It got better towards the end but her start was definitely not an encouraging sign (especially since Ivanovic wasn't even pressuring her that much).
Yes, one match picked completely at random proves your theory :spit:
Fyi, Maria broke Ivanovic's serve more times than Azarenka did last week.
It's not just this match. Pennetta and Watson matches at the USO were other prime examples of her not taking chances by missing returns on returnable serves. And I'm not even comparing her solely to Azarenka either.

Wozzilroy
May 17th, 2012, 08:50 PM
Maria Sharapova, sometimes she can be so relentless. No matter what the scoreline she's tough opponent to put away.

Poor Ana, she just does not have the reserves of a mental toughness of a Sharapova, she's such a flake. Oh how I wish she had not been ruined by Adidas and the awful coaching team. Such a wasted talent, pity

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 08:52 PM
Nice..congrats Masha...but calling out for the coach against ANA IVANOVIC?! :unsure: :help:

Sharakim
May 17th, 2012, 08:52 PM
2) Maria is not on course for peaking at RG in my opinion. Before the clay season started, I said she should schedule differently than last year in order to not peak prematurely like she did in Rome last year. This year she added another tournament and now she seems to have peaked in Stuttgart with her level visibly regressing the deeper we are in the clay season. Today was unimpressive from her on a lot of accounts IMO.The thing about every peak is it's followed by a valley. And every valley eventually morphs back into a peak. If we are to assume that Maria is in the "valley" right now, I'd rather her play below her best now then risk it happening at RG. The way I see it, she has a week off after Rome, and potentially 2 weeks to play in Paris..more than enough time to get back to her best. The real worry is Serena Williams. As with pretty much all of Maria's majors, the more she can avoid Serena, the better her chances of winning her fourth slam.

JamieOwen3
May 17th, 2012, 08:52 PM
It's not a choke if she didn't get to that lead with amazing play. she didn't do anything differently than she had to be 3-0 up or 5-3 up. Difference was Maria who upped her level, I can bet that the stats were beyond ugly at 5-3 first set for Maria. By the end of the 1st set I would also bet she had made a lot less errors and upped the winner count. Ana hit some amazing shots but the errors for both were the same, ONLY 2 more for Ana. Winners were the key point and the count of those from both don't lie.

dsanders06
May 17th, 2012, 08:54 PM
It was a pretty bad match TBH. Maria was spraying errors way too much. It got better towards the end but her start was definitely not an encouraging sign (especially since Ivanovic wasn't even pressuring her that much).

It's not just this match. Pennetta and Watson matches at the USO were other prime examples of her not taking chances by missing returns on returnable serves. And I'm not even comparing her solely to Azarenka either.

And equally, I could pick out Azarenka's match against Bartoli (hardly a monster server) in Miami to try and prove she isn't a good returner :lol:

Going on actual statistics rather than just picking completely unrepresentative samples, Sharapova won a higher % of points on return in 2011 than Azarenka did - and I'm sure you'd agree that 2011 will probably end up being much higher in Azarenka's all-time best seasons list at the end of her career than Sharapova's. This year I'd guess Azarenka is ahead but only because it's been probably the best period of her career that she'll ever have.

doomsday
May 17th, 2012, 08:54 PM
I don't really think Ivanovic choked. Sharapova was just gift-wrapping numerous points to her with never-ending stretches of errors and DFs. I was actually impressed by how Ajde's BH held up during the BH rallies, considering Sharapova is supposed to have far away the better BH.

Two thoughts on Maria from this match:

1) This match proved she is not the best returner, still way too inconsistent. In that game at 5-4 first set she was continously dumping returns into the net on deuces and Ads, and those VIP serves really weren't all that either. Some of her BH returns were dropping short too. She was really helping VIP not to choke but Ivanovic's inability to hold firm eventually prevailed. :lol:
2) Maria is not on course for peaking at RG in my opinion. Before the clay season started, I said she should schedule differently than last year in order to not peak prematurely like she did in Rome last year. This year she added another tournament and now she seems to have peaked in Stuttgart with her level visibly regressing the deeper we are in the clay season. Today was unimpressive from her on a lot of accounts IMO.

Geez, you need to slow down.:lol:

2Black
May 17th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Ana is so bad... Congrats Maria!

Break My Rapture
May 17th, 2012, 08:55 PM
The thing about every peak is it's followed by a valley. And every valley eventually morphs back into a peak. If we are to assume that Maria is in the "valley" right now, I'd rather her play below her best now then risk it happening at RG. The way I see it, she has a week off after Rome, and potentially 2 weeks to play in Paris..more than enough time to get back to her best.
Well yeah that's the idea, and hopefully that's also the case with her right now. But I doubt it TBH, after her peak in Rome last year she stayed in a valley for pretty much the rest of the season.

HRHoliviasmith
May 17th, 2012, 08:55 PM
Nice..congrats Masha...but calling out for the coach against ANA IVANOVIC?! :unsure: :help:

:haha:

dsanders06
May 17th, 2012, 08:56 PM
Well yeah that's the idea, and hopefully that's also the case with her right now. But I doubt it TBH, after her peak in Rome last year she stayed in a valley for pretty much the rest of the season.

Her QF at RG last year was better than virtually all of her matches in Rome :lol:

FedererBulgaria
May 17th, 2012, 08:56 PM
Great match!

doomsday
May 17th, 2012, 08:57 PM
Nice..congrats Masha...but calling out for the coach against ANA IVANOVIC?! :unsure: :help:

Always a lil dig :lol:

atominside
May 17th, 2012, 08:58 PM
why are you using the us open matches as your evidence? :facepalm: what about her australian open matches? what about indian wells? or miami? or stuttgart? theres more evidence to counter your theory. gtfo.

Break My Rapture
May 17th, 2012, 08:58 PM
And equally, I could pick out Azarenka's match against Bartoli (hardly a monster server) in Miami to try and prove she isn't a good returner :lol:

Going on actual statistics rather than just picking completely unrepresentative samples, Sharapova won a higher % of points on return in 2011 than Azarenka did - and I'm sure you'd agree that 2011 will probably end up being much higher in Azarenka's all-time best seasons list at the end of her career than Sharapova's. This year I'd guess Azarenka is ahead but only because it's been probably the best period of her career that she'll ever have.
Bartoli is NOT a monster server? :lol: That's new. And I don't think those actual statistics are worth much because of the examples of matches I stated, where Maria dumped away her chances by missing rather easy returns on crucial points (bar the Watson match which she managed to scrape through). Something tells me other returners would have taken those opportunities and not dump their returns in the net. JMO.

Charlatan
May 17th, 2012, 08:59 PM
Her QF at RG last year was better than virtually all of her matches in Rome :lol:

:unsure: uhm, NO

CameronCopper
May 17th, 2012, 08:59 PM
Mentalpova for the win.

NashaMasha
May 17th, 2012, 09:00 PM
Does anybody know why almost permanently Sharapova's chances before every single match by Tennis.com are underestimated?
—The reigning Rome champion has won nine of her last 10 matches in the Eternal City, has beaten Ivanovic three times in a row, and has advanced to the quarterfinals or better in all six tournament starts this season. The stats all support a Sharapova win, and she is clearly the more consistent competitor, but we’ll take a chance and roll with the former French Open champion. Ivanovic has scored a pair of straight-sets win this week, can dictate play with her forehand, and is 2-2 in her last four matches with Top 10 opponents.

The Pick: Ivanovic
http://www.tennis.com/articles/templates/features.aspx?articleid=17684&zoneid=9

dsanders06
May 17th, 2012, 09:00 PM
Bartoli is NOT a monster server? :lol:

Um, no. She's a good server but you'd be hard-pushed to describe someone who rarely top 105mph as a monster server.


That's new. And I don't think those actual statistics are worth much because of the examples of matches I stated, where Maria dumped away her chances by missing rather easy returns on crucial points (bar the Watson match which she managed to scrape through). Something tells me other returners would have taken those opportunities and not dump their returns in the net. JMO.

Yes, statistics that take into account ALL matches are worth less than a few matches picked completely at random :tape:

Break My Rapture
May 17th, 2012, 09:00 PM
why are you using the us open matches as your evidence? :facepalm: what about her australian open matches? what about indian wells? or miami? or stuttgart? theres more evidence to counter your theory. gtfo.
I could also point out her inability to kill off Azarenka's mediocre serves in most of their recent meetings TBH. There's loads of matches I could refer to where her return failed her.

Why are y'all always so pressed when I say this? Christ.

Kon.
May 17th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Didn't watch the match :(
Well done Maria.

2moretogo
May 17th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Credit to Maria for doing enough to win. Ana just can't compete against someone who won't go away.

The serving in this match was horrible though (by both).

JAS_
May 17th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Not that I saw. I saw Ana attacking, on the base line to get to SP. Big serves. Then when she has SP she's was camped out six feet behind the base line. Don't get me wrong, Maria definitelty stepped up and deserved the win, but Ana handed over that first set on a silver platter. She was even up a mini break in the TB and gave it away:facepalm:

OH, no, you got it all wrong. Ana never gives anything away. Only the other players can give away, and when Ana loses points, that's just sucking. Pfft. :rolleyes:

dsanders06
May 17th, 2012, 09:02 PM
:unsure: uhm, NO

Yes :lol: Why have people forgotten about how well she played against Petkovic in that RG QF? I distinctly remember at the time even her haters salivating over her play in the first set. Easily better than all her Rome matches bar the one against Wozniacki.

The Daviator
May 17th, 2012, 09:02 PM
Nope. Most of Ivanovic's points to set up SP were won by Martha making return errors or an easy one-two punch. On the set points Martha took pace off and put every return in deep. Ana crumbled in the neutral rallies on set point as she had done all set.

So why didn't she do that on the deuces to avoid going down SP? You act like she was selectively playing well on certain points. Ana slammed some excellent serves on those deuces, Maria played well on the SPs but Ana should not have blown that many chances, but she's Ana, so it will happen.

Good for Maria, she's a much better competitor/match player. Ana loses so much energy whenever she goes down a set, hence why you very rarely see her winning three set matches from behind.

madmax
May 17th, 2012, 09:03 PM
I could also point out her inability to kill off Azarenka's mediocre serves in most of their recent meetings TBH. There's loads of matches I could refer too where her return failed her.

yes, she didn't return well against Azarenka...actually before that Stuttgart match she played some of her worst tennis ever against your fave, not even counting specific areas of the game - it's called mental aspect of the sport in case you are wondering.:wavey:

Sharakim
May 17th, 2012, 09:04 PM
Well yeah that's the idea, and hopefully that's also the case with her right now. But I doubt it TBH, after her peak in Rome last year she stayed in a valley for pretty much the rest of the season.Sometimes it just takes one or two big matches to regain some confidence. I actually think that winning Rome last year kind of hurt her because it seemed to make her a little too confident. I think that a deep run here would only add to her confidence on clay. Serena is her kyptonite and if they do meet in the final, I'm resigned to fact that Maria will most likely lose. But, if she can shake the loss off quickly, she's can feel good about Paris. Plus, if Serena wins Rome, it takes some of the expectations away from Maria, and she's always done better as the underdog. I think she's right on the cusp of another major title. She just needs the stars to align a little bit and who knows? She might have a career slam by mid-june.

atominside
May 17th, 2012, 09:04 PM
I could also point out her inability to kill off Azarenka's mediocre serves in most of their recent meetings TBH. There's loads of matches I could refer to where her return failed her.

Why are y'all always so pressed when I say this? Christ.

because its a load of bullshit, and you have a cocky personality on here:tape: and you typically refer to azarenka as much greater than maria. which is not true.

Azarenka matches she lost were like only 2 of her matches. But, honestly i do believe on a day to day basis, aza is the better returner but maria is more explosive and deadly. but not as consistant. 55-45 ratio.

doomsday
May 17th, 2012, 09:06 PM
I could also point out her inability to kill off Azarenka's mediocre serves in most of their recent meetings TBH. There's loads of matches I could refer to where her return failed her.

Why are y'all always so pressed when I say this? Christ.

Because it's obvious you are biased btw why do you think about Vika's chances judging on her last performances who were more than abysmal, I'm sure you don't want to speculate about that :lol:

ivanban
May 17th, 2012, 09:08 PM
:tears: I thought Ana will destroy Shaza after defeating such powerhouses as Sexlana and Soler Espinosa

Break My Rapture
May 17th, 2012, 09:10 PM
Yes :lol: Why have people forgotten about how well she played against Petkovic in that RG QF? I distinctly remember at the time even her haters salivating over her play in the first set. Easily better than all her Rome matches bar the one against Wozniacki.
Because it wasn't THAT good. It was by far her best performance in that tournament, but it was only a solid performance. The actual match was way tougher than the scoreline suggested, there were loads of deuce games. Petkovic played horrible. I don't remember the exact stats but I think they weren't that great apart from her first serve %.

LeRoy.
May 17th, 2012, 09:10 PM
https://p.twimg.com/AtH0hGxCQAAYSRg.jpg
Maria and her mom. Isn't her Mom stunning ? :hearts:

atominside
May 17th, 2012, 09:12 PM
Because it wasn't THAT good. It was by far her best performance in that tournament, but it was only a solid performance. The actual match was way tougher than the scoreline suggested, there were loads of deuce games. Petkovic played horrible. I don't remember the exact stats but I think they weren't that great apart from her first serve %.

Petko couldnt handle maria. that's all. Look at their last 2 sets in miami before that. maria continued that onto the FO meeting.

Break My Rapture
May 17th, 2012, 09:15 PM
Because it's obvious you are biased btw why do you think about Vika's chances judging on her last performances who were more than abysmal, I'm sure you don't want to speculate about that :lol:
Why would I be biased if I just said Azarenka has a mediocre serve, in other words a serve that should easily be dispatched most of the time? I'm realistic here but so many Maria fans cannot handle a fan not licking her feet every five seconds.

It was nice to have a friendly, constructive chat with other Maria fan Sharakim who said a lot of useful things worth reading and didn't feel the need to attack or bring in other players, unlike *cough* others.

it-girl
May 17th, 2012, 09:18 PM
The problem with Ana these days is that too often she has to play her opponent and herself. Ana please get yourself together. All of the chances you work so hard to get, you just turn around and work even harder to blow. I am so tired of this song and dance.

cn ireland
May 17th, 2012, 09:31 PM
Nice work Maria:yeah:

Ana:hug:

edificio
May 17th, 2012, 09:37 PM
Ana is so mentally fragile on the tennis court. How did it come to this? So sad. Won it all too early and can't deal with the expectations. Whereas Masha has a strong nerve and ability to keep fighting even when her shots are flying and her serve is DFing. Well done, Masha.

Mistress of Evil
May 17th, 2012, 09:42 PM
There was no choking here. :shrug: Yet again this word is severely over- and misused on TF.
The only reason why Ivanovic was leading was the horrendous start of the match featuring 4 DFs + another additional 4 UEs on Maria's side. Once Martha found her rhythm it was obvious who is the better player. Still very messy, sloppy performance by Pova, not to mention how her served flopped coz of the wind. :lol:


she had 30-30 W/UE ratio today...from your gospel it sounds like this was the worst match ever. Please

Yes, one match picked completely at random proves your theory :spit:
Fyi, Maria broke Ivanovic's serve more times than Azarenka did last week.

Geez, you need to slow down.:lol:

because its a load of bullshit, and you have a cocky personality on here:tape: and you typically refer to azarenka as much greater than maria. which is not true.

Azarenka matches she lost were like only 2 of her matches. But, honestly i do believe on a day to day basis, aza is the better returner but maria is more explosive and deadly. but not as consistant. 55-45 ratio.


Leave Mr Falsetto Nightingale alone! :crying2:

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 09:48 PM
Always a lil dig :lol:

;) But you do agree with me, though? ( I hope?) Ivanovic is like the weakest mentally of all the major winners in history. For a competitor like Masha whom everybody gloats about her fierceness, mentally strength, etc.. no need to call for a trainer at 3-4 in the first set.

Cajka
May 17th, 2012, 09:53 PM
There was no choking here. :shrug: Yet again this word is severely over- and misused on TF.
The only reason why Ivanovic was leading was the horrendous start of the match featuring 4 DFs + another additional 4 UEs on Maria's side. Once Martha found her rhythm it was obvious who is the better player. Still very messy, sloppy performance by Pova, not to mention how her served flopped coz of the wind. :lol:

Look, it's not important whether Maria played well until 5:4 or not. The point is that Ana had 5 set points on her own serve. Not one or two. 5!!! All those 5 serves were weak and ridiculous. Not to mention that brainless return when she had a set point on Masha's serve. The fact that Maria played awful and still won that set makes Ana look even worse. Even Yakimova would win that set considering how awful Masha was in first 10 games.

atominside
May 17th, 2012, 09:54 PM
if its there to be used. why not :shrug: no regrets later.

Moo_21
May 17th, 2012, 09:57 PM
Impressive for Sharapova to pull this match out in two sets. Terrible start to the match, but the level really picked up at the end of the first set and was pretty entertaining stuff.

Ivanovic will be kicking herself, she had many chances in this match. Still, I think she can do well at RG with the right draw and her head in check...

doomsday
May 17th, 2012, 10:05 PM
;) But you do agree with me, though? ( I hope?) Ivanovic is like the weakest mentally of all the major winners in history. For a competitor like Masha whom everybody gloats about her fierceness, mentally strength, etc.. no need to call for a trainer at 3-4 in the first set.

This is just sth she keep doing just for doing it if you ask me. She calls him when she also lead comfortably sometimes there is no need to look more into it tbh.

tejmeglekvár
May 17th, 2012, 10:08 PM
as others said, no choke here. Maybe, maybe when she dumped 2 setpoint into net too early, you could call that a minichoke, but would be complete denial.
Masha was playing another ballgame til 0-3, 30W/30UE would look like 30/20 without first 3 games. After that horrendous start, her baseline game was top notch, well, as much she had to be to broke down VIP. Who basically was pushing or trying to escape with her junk slice. It was infuriating seeing Maria not moving forward at all, luckily barely missed anything. You thought its over after the Tiebreak, but 2nd set was an up & down mess of course.
She had problems with returning, as many times this year, although she had to keep up the pressure on VIP to prevent doing anything, because she still can finish points after a 1-2 punch.

its gonna be very tough against Venus if cant improve the serve & return.

fede33
May 17th, 2012, 10:10 PM
Maria !!:cheer::cheer:

Trashanovic !:wavey::wavey::wavey:

18majors
May 17th, 2012, 10:33 PM
Good win Maria! QF, it's show time Maria.

Andy.
May 17th, 2012, 11:10 PM
Tough as nails!!!

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad255/zevavavoom/mashacloseup.gif

rucolo
May 17th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Not impressed. But Maria fought hard and won! :bounce:

Hit to Ana's BH and you win

:angel: Should also do this when you play Stosur ;)

monmonito
May 17th, 2012, 11:17 PM
what happened to the former Rg champ :tape:

claypova
May 17th, 2012, 11:32 PM
YES, thankgod Maria didn't lose her.

congrats Masha :cheer:

Belmont Lad
May 17th, 2012, 11:34 PM
Not stellar tennis from Masha, but a nice recovery following the odious start and serving woes. :kiss:

laurie
May 17th, 2012, 11:45 PM
Ivanovic fell away surprisingly in the 2nd set.

The Dawntreader
May 17th, 2012, 11:50 PM
Sharapova was ridiculously bad throughout most of the match, but the first 3 games of that first set must rank as the worst tennis she's ever played.

Another example of Ivanovic's inability to gauge momentum, and Pova was given such a reprieve.

Cp6uja
May 17th, 2012, 11:56 PM
From my point of view Ana not waste 6 set points, but 6 match points today! I'm sure Ana will won 2nd set also if she just use one of several opportunities to close opening set.

On other hand if Ivanovic not mentally collapse in 2nd set after *3-1 lead, take hers chances and tied - Ana will lose this match anyway, because unfortunately right now she is still physically not ready to play 3rd set on high level in day-to-day events when have full schedule like this season, so well-prepared elite and fit player like Maria will beat her without problem in three.

Looking at overall stats it seems that Maria should to win this match on routine way (something like 6-3 6-3), but this numbers are corrupted by Ana dropped level in finishes of both sets (lose 4 of last 5 games in 1st set, and all 5 last in 2nd).

Maria once again showed great personality and spirit on court, and I really wish her to complete career slam and win French Open ASAP, because she deserve that.

Foxy
May 18th, 2012, 12:27 AM
Ana should have won the match in two easy sets, but she could not keep up her intensity and she made poor shot selection choices and her errors allowed Maria to win.

Ana didn't take the win and she lost. Ana just won the French Open 4 years ago because the field was very week at the time, but she's no champion. Her win was a fluke because she has not been able to back it up with another win. Ana doesn't have that mental fortitude like she did years ago. May be she's afraid to win. Shoot I don't know what her problem is because she clearly should have won today. But may be in the back of her mind she didn't want to get beat by Venus again. Who knows.

Stonerpova
May 18th, 2012, 12:45 AM
With most players they feel more pressure as the favorite and can swing freely as the underdog. Strangely enough Ana has looked far more nervous when she's been the underdog this year. She's more or less been winning the matches that the's supposed to in terms of rankings, but as soon as she plays a top 5 player she folds. Kvitova was playing absolutely horrible in the second set of their AO match and Ivanovic couldn't string together enough points to take the set. Same thing here. Maria came out playing terribly and Ivanovic did nothing to capitalize on the lead. It's all well and good that she's beating up on scrubs like Soler-Espinosa, but until she can overcome the intimidation factor of playing someone like Maria she won't challenge them.

As for Maria, terrible start but she did a good job at hanging in there. She played the key points brilliantly, and you could feel she was just waiting for Ivanovic to choke. She'll need to step it up against Venus, but I think she'll pull that one out.

perseus2006
May 18th, 2012, 02:31 AM
I could also point out her inability to kill off Azarenka's mediocre serves in most of their recent meetings TBH. There's loads of matches I could refer to where her return failed her.

Why are y'all always so pressed when I say this? Christ.

Pieter, I agree that Pova's ROS is off form. Against Vika, especially at AO and IW. So many of Vika's serves beg to be hit but don't get properly stroked. Some of that is due to Vika's excellent placement but some of it is due to Pova's apparent struggle to balance "aggression" with "patience". This does show up in many matches.

The pendulum swings. I feel Pova is better off with taking more UE's for a more effective and intimidating ROS. Pova and Hogg will figure it out.

BTW, any news of Vika's wrist/arm/shoulder injury?

thegreendestiny
May 18th, 2012, 03:18 AM
Can we now all agree that Maria is simply just a better player than Ana? :shrug:

The 2nd Law
May 18th, 2012, 03:21 AM
Can we now all agree that Maria is simply just a better player than Ana? :shrug:

I think that was already the general consensus, but thanks for bringing it up again :yeah:


Don't lose in R1 at RG, Ana :rolleyes:

perseus2006
May 18th, 2012, 03:22 AM
The ESPN3 stream only showed the match from midgame with Ana serving 5-4 in the 1st. Pova had already saved like 3 set points and we got to see her save a few more. The end of that first set was certainly a dramatic nailbiter! Sadly, the ESPN3 announcer could not keep Ana and Pova separate and some of his mistakes of who was who and who had done what earlier in the set added to the stress. Drunk, drugs or exhausted? I don't know. I don't think he ever got who was who straightened out in his mind through the end of the second set.

Ana played well through 3-4 in the second set. Her FH kill shot was simply amazing at times but Pova made her play BH most of the time. That was the difference in the match, in my opinion, that Pova was able to force play to Ana's BH throughout the part of the match I saw
.

Congrats to Pova. Do well in the QF!

Kudos to Ana. Tremendous improvement since the last time I saw her in a match. Keep going, girl, you are on the cusp!!!

HRHoliviasmith
May 18th, 2012, 03:22 AM
Has Kworb been in here yet? :eek:

Brad[le]y.
May 18th, 2012, 03:27 AM
Has Kworb been in here yet? :eek:

Ana is no longer public enemy #1 for him.

Saviours of the WTA are now people who beat Azarenka and Kvitova :rolls:

Lord Choc Ice
May 18th, 2012, 03:33 AM
Ana :mad:. 6 set points??

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m422qafuif1rt8t3no1_250.gif

Well done Maria :yeah:.

HRHoliviasmith
May 18th, 2012, 03:36 AM
Ana is no longer public enemy #1 for him.

Saviours of the WTA are now people who beat Azarenka and Kvitova :rolls:

you're kidding...kworb is a mess. :rolls:

Stonerpova
May 18th, 2012, 03:48 AM
you're kidding...kworb is a mess. :rolls:

That's why I wish Ivanovic would have beaten Vika in Madrid, because then Ana would have been one of his 'Saviors' :rolls:

HRHoliviasmith
May 18th, 2012, 03:50 AM
That's why I wish Ivanovic would have beaten Vika in Madrid, because then Ana would have been one of his 'Saviors' :rolls:

The irony, right? OMG I'm crying just thinking about it. :sobbing:

Brad[le]y.
May 18th, 2012, 03:51 AM
That's why I wish Ivanovic would have beaten Vika in Madrid, because then Ana would have been one of his 'Saviors' :rolls:

Masha is the only player to save the WTA twice in one tournament :eek:

Petko is the only one to save the WTA in back-to-back tournaments :rolls:

The irony, right? OMG I'm crying just thinking about it. :sobbing:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=20799765&postcount=54 :oh:

Craig.
May 18th, 2012, 03:54 AM
That's why I wish Ivanovic would have beaten Vika in Madrid, because then Ana would have been one of his 'Saviors' :rolls:

:sobbing:

Vuvurenka
May 18th, 2012, 04:22 AM
LOL WUT HAPPENED. I left when Ivanovic wasted 6 setpoints and Maria got to 6-5 in the first set :lol:

As expected, Ana imploded right?

Stonerpova
May 18th, 2012, 04:26 AM
LOL WUT HAPPENED. I left when Ivanovic wasted 6 setpoints and Maria got to 6-5 in the first set :lol:

As expected, Ana imploded right?

Basically. She led 3-1 in the second, too. Maria played well under pressure too though.

thegreendestiny
May 18th, 2012, 04:57 AM
Ana is no longer public enemy #1 for him.

Saviours of the WTA are now people who beat Azarenka and Kvitova :rolls:

Anyone who can shoot an arrow right in the vulture's heart IS the real saviour. :wavey:

danieln1
May 18th, 2012, 05:44 AM
Useless Ivanovic, but I have given up on her since she lost to Cetkovska in Dubai or whatever (actually, since she lost to Fiona in Miami 11, wasted 24 match points) so it´s not that of a big deal anymore. Lived up to her seeding though, and I guess it will be like this for quite some time. Thank God I didn´t waste my time watching this shit :facepalm:

Hopefully Venus can trash the russian and put some order in this draw :oh:

JAS_
May 18th, 2012, 08:24 AM
Tough as nails!!!

http://i941.photobucket.com/albums/ad255/zevavavoom/mashacloseup.gif

Awesome GIF. :worship:
Can anyone translate? Is she cursing in Russian?

Tenis Srbija
May 18th, 2012, 10:42 AM
Ana, you beautiful idiot! :weirdo:

JamieOwen3
May 18th, 2012, 11:00 AM
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m42zm2JfZR1rtjju7o4_250.gif

Patrick345
May 18th, 2012, 11:07 AM
Basically. She led 3-1 in the second, too. Maria played well under pressure too though.

:lol:

It´s really like she beat her choking gene to the finish line at the French Open.

That being said, she is getting closer and closer. She has been competitive with Azarenka and Sharapova recently and most of the time she is beating, who she is supposed to beat.

Vuvurenka
May 18th, 2012, 11:53 AM
Basically. She led 3-1 in the second, too. Maria played well under pressure too though.

Ana :help: oh well but at least she's being competitive with the top girls.

tejmeglekvár
May 18th, 2012, 12:01 PM
:lol:

It´s really like she beat her choking gene to the finish line at the French Open.

That being said, she is getting closer and closer. She has been competitive with Azarenka and Sharapova recently and most of the time she is beating, who she is supposed to beat.

neither Azarenka or Masha in best form and its still VIP´s best surface.

Joelina
May 18th, 2012, 12:35 PM
Ana should have won the match in two easy sets, but she could not keep up her intensity and she made poor shot selection choices and her errors allowed Maria to win.

Ana didn't take the win and she lost. Ana just won the French Open 4 years ago because the field was very week at the time, but she's no champion. Her win was a fluke because she has not been able to back it up with another win. Ana doesn't have that mental fortitude like she did years ago. May be she's afraid to win. Shoot I don't know what her problem is because she clearly should have won today. But may be in the back of her mind she didn't want to get beat by Venus again. Who knows.

i wouldn´t say her win was a fluke, she was a finalist in 2007 also beating Kuznetsova and Sharapova which were not fluke opponents in my opinion

Cajka
May 18th, 2012, 12:55 PM
neither Azarenka or Masha in best form and its still VIP´s best surface.

Have you seen her on clay during the last few seasons? It used to be her best surface. She hasn't reached R3 on RG since 2009. Her movement on clay is awkward, Sharapova slides better than her there. Sharapova won Rome and reached the sf of RG last year. What did Ana do on clay last season? There's no way that the surface was an advantage for Ana in matches against Vika and Masha.

CetkovskaBrazil
May 18th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Ana :hug:

tejmeglekvár
May 18th, 2012, 01:24 PM
Have you seen her on clay during the last few seasons?

enjoyed every moment of it. :drool:
It used to be her best surface. She hasn't reached R3 on RG since 2009. Her movement on clay is awkward, Sharapova slides better than her there. Sharapova won Rome and reached the sf of RG last year. What did Ana do on clay last season? There's no way that the surface was an advantage for Ana in matches against Vika and Masha.
so, if it was her best surfac, why isnt her best now? Did she change her game? Hardly. Or had she many big results on other surface? nope.
So, its still her best surface. And it doesnt matter how brainless she is or how Maria improved on clay.

Cajka
May 18th, 2012, 01:44 PM
enjoyed every moment of it. :drool:

so, if it was her best surfac, why isnt her best now? Did she change her game? Hardly. Or had she many big results on other surface? nope.
So, its still her best surface. And it doesnt matter how brainless she is or how Maria improved on clay.

You are one hilarious troll. :sobbing:

I mean... Did she change her game??????? :hysteric: :spit:

I don't know, why don't you rewatch her old matches. Her shots on clay are flat and ineffective, while her serve looks completely average on dirt these days, do you really think that anyone could win RG playing the way she did last night?!

Kuznetsova was talking about her game before Fed Cup, actually. She said that the tennis that Ana plays now is better for hardcourts than for clay, but I'm sure that you know better than her, like every troll on this board.

madmax
May 18th, 2012, 01:49 PM
VIP doesn't seem to have the same pop on her FH as she had back in glorious 2007-08 years. Maria had no trouble bossing her arround the court, leaving serbian scrambling on defense. I don't know how to explain this comparative lack of power in VIP's game nowadays, but it could be attributed to her loss of weight and maybe even strenght.

The 2nd Law
May 18th, 2012, 03:03 PM
You are one hilarious troll. :sobbing:

I mean... Did she change her game??????? :hysteric: :spit:

I don't know, why don't you rewatch her old matches. Her shots on clay are flat and ineffective, while her serve looks completely average on dirt these days, do you really think that anyone could win RG playing the way she did last night?!

Kuznetsova was talking about her game before Fed Cup, actually. She said that the tennis that Ana plays now is better for hardcourts than for clay, but I'm sure that you know better than her, like every troll on this board.

WORD :worship: