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Expat
May 16th, 2012, 03:22 PM
http://www.forbes.com/celebrities/list/#p_1_s_a0_Athletes_

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Values Calculated May 2012
Rank Name Pay Money Rank TV/Radio Rank Press Rank Web Rank Social Rank
12 Tiger Woods $58 M 20 6 4 25 45
15 LeBron James $53 M 27 7 15 23 22
27 Kobe Bryant $50 M 33 32 27 27 26
31 Roger Federer $52 M 30 41 2 68 28
32 David Beckham $46 M 35 44 17 26 6
33 Manny Pacquiao $67 M 16 47 53 73 51
40 Peyton Manning $42 M 41 8 24 57 94
44 Cristiano Ronaldo $42 M 41 93 7 38 5
47 Rafael Nadal $33 M 58 14 3 54 25
48 Phil Mickelson $48 M 34 42 33 87 88
50 Lionel Messi $39 M 46 87 6 40 10
52 Floyd Mayweather $40 M 43 35 62 77 46
60 Tom Brady $27 M 64 15 14 61 61
63 Alex Rodriguez $34 M 56 36 30 65 71
71 Maria Sharapova $26 M 67 59 20 76 33
77 Serena Williams $13 M 90 40 19 63 47
87 Li Na $18 M 77 74 37 94 87



Only WTA players are in female athletes

Tenis Srbija
May 16th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Caro? :oh: :lol:

Queenpova
May 16th, 2012, 03:27 PM
Who else? the star of the WTA :hearts:

lessers stay mad.

ElusiveChanteuse
May 16th, 2012, 03:35 PM
No Djokovic?:eek:

Sam L
May 16th, 2012, 03:41 PM
I don't think I ever want to be on a list that has Kim Kardashian in the top ten. :scared:

I much rather prefer Serena in the Greatest Tennis players' lists. :)

Also, I can't believe how far 3 slams have carried Sharapova. :rolleyes: I like her but it's times like these that I'm glad Serena has not lost to her since 2004.

Tenis Srbija
May 16th, 2012, 03:50 PM
I don't think I ever want to be on a list that has Kim Kardashian in the top ten. :scared:

I much rather prefer Serena in the Greatest Tennis players' lists. :)

Also, I can't believe how far 3 slams have carried Sharapova. :rolleyes: I like her but it's times like these that I'm glad Serena has not lost to her since 2004.

This is a CELEBRITY list :shrug: Slams aren't that relevant, and Kardashitian unfortunately is :tape:

Sam L
May 16th, 2012, 03:51 PM
This is a CELEBRITY list :shrug: Slams aren't that relevant, and Kardashitian unfortunately is :tape:
I know. I just mean how much she continues to earn in endorsements despite relative lack of success in the last few years.

Pasta-Na
May 16th, 2012, 03:56 PM
I heard NaNa earned $30M last year and she will earn around $35M this year. :p

Tenis Srbija
May 16th, 2012, 03:58 PM
I know. I just mean how much she continues to earn in endorsements despite relative lack of success in the last few years.

Well, she is the No2 :lol:

Tenis Srbija
May 16th, 2012, 04:00 PM
I heard NaNa earned $30M last year and she will earn around $35M this year. :p

Hmmm worth kidnapping :oh:

Queenpova
May 16th, 2012, 04:02 PM
I know. I just mean how much she continues to earn in endorsements despite relative lack of success in the last few years.

stay mad.

Nina.
May 16th, 2012, 04:12 PM
No Djokovic?:eek:

He's not getting any millions from Nike, guess that's hurting him :lol:

Cp6uja
May 16th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Where is European sports superstars like Djokovic, Vettel, Klichko and ... (You know who)???

So American boxer Floyd Mayweather Jr. have same celebrity star power today like Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo and Rafa Nadal (all four ranked between 44-52)??? Yes... sure...

Too many mistakes in this list, and not only athletes are ranked there on ridiculous way.

mdterp01
May 17th, 2012, 02:52 AM
I don't think I ever want to be on a list that has Kim Kardashian in the top ten. :scared:

I much rather prefer Serena in the Greatest Tennis players' lists. :)

Also, I can't believe how far 3 slams have carried Sharapova. :rolleyes: I like her but it's times like these that I'm glad Serena has not lost to her since 2004.

THIS!!!! :worship:

ziros
May 17th, 2012, 03:02 AM
How come everyone complains about Sharapova but no one cares about Tiger still being the #1 athlete even though he hasn't won in years or LeBron who has never won a title

Serenus Christ
May 17th, 2012, 03:12 AM
this list is one hot mess,
lets take a look at #1 - JLo.
really?
Maria Sharapova shouldn't be that high, when do you see her on tv advertisements? when do you see her at red carpet events? bitch being carried by that sports illustrated cover from 10 years ago..

Stonerpova
May 17th, 2012, 03:16 AM
How come everyone complains about Sharapova but no one cares about Tiger still being the #1 athlete even though he hasn't won in years or LeBron who has never won a title

+1

Lachy
May 17th, 2012, 03:22 AM
THIS!!!! :worship:

:lol: Stay pressed. :dance:

Raiden
May 17th, 2012, 04:08 AM
How come everyone complains about Sharapova but no one cares about Tiger still being the #1 athlete even though he hasn't won in years or LeBron who has never won a title First of all bullshit: Woods has won a tournament a few weeks ago.

2nd of all, why should TENNIS forum posters care to be jelis of complain about a golfer's and basketball player's money and titles or lack thereof?

Vee Williams
May 17th, 2012, 04:35 AM
I know. I just mean how much she continues to earn in endorsements despite relative lack of success in the last few years.

she keeps herself occupied and involved in things:

“I am extremely stubborn and in a way its good because I am very involved in things and I suppose that I am always in control and I get involved in things,” admitted the second seed. “Sometimes I think that this is a weakness as I get really involved in things and so I think sometimes that I should really back off."

http://www.internazionalibnlditalia.com/News/Tennis/2012/Tournament/Sharapova-Tuesday.aspx

Mrs. Dimitrova
May 17th, 2012, 04:44 AM
this list is one hot mess,
lets take a look at #1 - JLo.
really?
Maria Sharapova shouldn't be that high, when do you see her on tv advertisements? when do you see her at red carpet events? bitch being carried by that sports illustrated cover from 10 years ago..

During one month this year she was in 3-4 red carpet events. :lol: She does it a few times a year to promote herself.

Here in America, I saw her on TV multiple times. More than I expected.

thegreendestiny
May 17th, 2012, 04:47 AM
I don't think I ever want to be on a list that has Kim Kardashian in the top ten. :scared:

I much rather prefer Serena in the Greatest Tennis players' lists. :)

Also, I can't believe how far 3 slams have carried Sharapova. :rolleyes: I like her but it's times like these that I'm glad Serena has not lost to her since 2004.

Imagine if she won more. Her income would be doubled. :oh:

Sharapowerr
May 17th, 2012, 04:49 AM
I don't think I ever want to be on a list that has Kim Kardashian in the top ten. :scared:

I much rather prefer Serena in the Greatest Tennis players' lists. :)

Also, I can't believe how far 3 slams have carried Sharapova. :rolleyes: I like her but it's times like these that I'm glad Serena has not lost to her since 2004.

You are not on the list be happy:wavey:
Interesting that Maria doubles Serena, might be the reason that Serena plays her best against Masha.

it-girl
May 17th, 2012, 05:15 AM
To think that Serena only played towards the end of the year last year and still made it. I wonder what she would have made had she not been injured and played the entire season. One thing for sure this list is based off of what they have access to and not any of these players total income. I can only imagine what they really make because I can guarantee you none of these athletes are providing their financial statements for a list like this.

Sharapowerr
May 17th, 2012, 05:17 AM
To think that Serena only played towards the end of the year last year and still made it. I wonder what she would have made had she not been injured and played the entire season. One thing for sure this list is based off of what they have access to and not any of these players total income. I can only imagine what they really make because I can guarantee you none of these athletes are providing their financial statements for a list like this.

Maria was 10 months out and still made above 20 M;)

tennisbum79
May 17th, 2012, 05:27 AM
I know. I just mean how much she continues to earn in endorsements despite relative lack of success in the last few years.
Actually, Maria fans have saying lately that her earning is more than enough to replace her lack of success on the court:lol:

If you scan some of the threads where posters have pointed out that Maria's has not beaten Serena in a long time, their glib answer is "but Maria makes more money than Serena"

tennisbum79
May 17th, 2012, 05:30 AM
You are not on the list be happy:wavey:
Interesting that Maria doubles Serena, might be the reason that Serena plays her best against Masha.
Stated in other way, Maria is less motivated to play Serena because she makes double of the money Serena makes.
Both statement are ridiculous, but mine flows from yours

Novichok
May 17th, 2012, 05:40 AM
Serena beats Maria in TV/Radio, Press, and Web rank. :hearts: :worship: Somehow Maria beats her out in Social Rank. :tape: I'd bet that their methodology is poor.

Mistress of Evil
May 17th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Also, I can't believe how far 3 slams have carried Sharapova. :rolleyes: I like her but it's times like these that I'm glad Serena has not lost to her since 2004.


Maria Sharapova shouldn't be that high, when do you see her on tv advertisements? when do you see her at red carpet events? bitch being carried by that sports illustrated cover from 10 years ago..

In the last few years, Martha has tremendously cut off on the red carpet appearances, it is the hipster in her head saying: "No, Maria it is too mainstream" . Obviously, you will never see her having a dinner with a Kardashian. Fashion week + Chelsey Lately was the first time in quite long where she "acted as a celebrity".

Maria has just signed a deal with Samsung covering Russia + Asia which must be quite lucrative. However, a considerate amount of her income comes from her business ventures. An item from her collection is Cole Haan's best selling product. Her Nike's line is probably doing quite well and she does get a % of it as well. Moreover, she is launching "Sugarpova" (:sobbing:) in the fall. All in all, Maria has been slowly but surely building her empire and she is quite the business woman now.

At the end of the day money is not what matters so why being irritated by some stupid list. Personally, what frustrates me about this list is the HUGE gap between female & men athletes. It is just so fucking irritating that women are so unappreciated compared to their male pals.

ziros
May 17th, 2012, 08:30 AM
Serena beats Maria in TV/Radio, Press, and Web rank. :hearts: :worship: Somehow Maria beats her out in Social Rank. :tape: I'd bet that their methodology is poor.
The majority of people find Sharapova attractive,I don't think many people will be interested in looking at pictures of Serena for fapping purposes

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 11:29 AM
sharapova is just bigger than the sport at the moment,doesn't matter if she wins or loses or whatever

anna kournikova is still relevant after all these years despite winning 0 tournaments

are people really surprised that a goodlooking, blond, white, leggy 3 time grandslam champion will always pull in the big bucks and always be relevant even if she doesn't win anything more for the next 5 yrs. sharapova is a brand, tons of guys i know know who doesn't watch any tennis know who maria sharapova is.

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 01:02 PM
Not surprising really. There was no going around Tiger, but matter of fact is that we still live in a white world..and somethings will never change.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 01:03 PM
Not surprising really. There was no going around Tiger, but matter of fact is that we still live in a white world..and somethings will never change.

No. it's about being good looking.:kiss:

abesky
May 17th, 2012, 01:17 PM
Just look at my signature for further comments... :oh:

RenaPova
May 17th, 2012, 01:18 PM
What is the difference between TV/radio rank and press rank?

NashaMasha
May 17th, 2012, 01:21 PM
Not surprising really. There was no going around Tiger, but matter of fact is that we still live in a white world..and somethings will never change.

Naomi Campbell with Eshtoril title will be more popular than Sharapova and Serena Williams taken one with another. It's a matter of beauty and behaviour and all this racism is ridiculous in 21 century

Joelina
May 17th, 2012, 01:24 PM
haters gonna hate....Maria ;)

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 02:14 PM
Naomi Campbell with Eshtoril title will be more popular than Sharapova and Serena Williams taken one with another. It's a matter of beauty and behaviour and all this racism is ridiculous in 21 century

Exactly. If Beyonce was a tennis player she'd be getting endorsements left and right.

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Naomi Campbell with Eshtoril title will be more popular than Sharapova and Serena Williams taken one with another. It's a matter of beauty and behaviour and all this racism is ridiculous in 21 century

Ain't it funny...people who never experienced racism in their lives, talking about racism being ridiculous.

Anyways, Serena has AND the money AND the titles..so it's all good. Not like Serena is scraping by, soo..no problemos.

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 04:10 PM
Exactly. If Beyonce was a tennis player she'd be getting endorsements left and right.

beyonce is a light skinned black woman and more acceptable in the white world. also for every 1 beyonce we have 5 white pop superstars. for every black actress making it big in hollywood, we have 10 white lead actresses. for every black supermodel, we have 20 white supermodels.

it is a white world

please speak not of what you have no idea of

racism is still around, because you white folks do not experience it doesn't mean it's not there

eta: i agree though that even if serena is white, she still wouldn't have as much endorsements as maria... because she is just not the archetype of what this world finds attractive. sharapova is the perfect combination of all these things the world prefers - WHITE, BLONDE, SLENDER, LEGGY. even other "pretty white girls" like wozniacki, azarenka and kvitova who are doing well still are not in the sharapova league because they are lacking some of the things that makes sharapova so attractive to endorsements.

i wud say though that if serena was white not so many ppl would be so angry at her dominating (it is ridiculous how even some fellow americans are so enraged that it was always serena serena serena)... roddick gets more appreciation and crowd support than serena even when he was won jack shit

Ryan
May 17th, 2012, 04:13 PM
How come everyone complains about Sharapova but no one cares about Tiger still being the #1 athlete even though he hasn't won in years or LeBron who has never won a title


Because most people on this board aren't fans of mainstream American sports. :lol: All they've got is tennis "knowledge".

Ryan
May 17th, 2012, 04:14 PM
Not surprising really. There was no going around Tiger, but matter of fact is that we still live in a white world..and somethings will never change.


You're right; when the majority of the North American population is caucasian, the majority of celebrities will be...caucasian.

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 04:16 PM
And the money will remain in caucasian hands.

BH both wings
May 17th, 2012, 04:17 PM
And the money will remain in caucasian hands.

Georgia must be one rich country ...

Lin Lin
May 17th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Li Na is overrated I think:unsure:

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 04:22 PM
You're right; when the majority of the North American population is caucasian, the majority of celebrities will be...caucasian.

it is not that though, black people are ridiculously underrepresented. black ppl make up 13% of the US population but think of all the famous actors and actresses you know - How many of them are black?

lol i could bet that the only famous actors and actresses that come to mind are will smith, halle berry and maybe some denzel washington there too.

think of all the tv shows you watch and tell me how many of the lead actors there are black

majority of the ppl are white, but black people are ridiculously underrepresented even below the 13% representation we should at least get from them

cautiouslip
May 17th, 2012, 04:36 PM
Actually, Maria fans have saying lately that her earning is more than enough to replace her lack of success on the court:lol:

If you scan some of the threads where posters have pointed out that Maria's has not beaten Serena in a long time, their glib answer is "but Maria makes more money than Serena"

nope thats just abesky :rolleyes:

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Georgia must be one rich country ...

One thing I DO know is that Africa is one POOR continent.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 05:05 PM
I think those of you always throwing the race card must have a sad life tho...

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 05:07 PM
I think those of you always throwing the race card must have a sad life tho...

Not really..the ones trying to deny it, those are the sad ones.

Novichok
May 17th, 2012, 05:08 PM
I think those of you always throwing the race card must have a sad life tho...

And why is that?

Sharapowerr
May 17th, 2012, 05:08 PM
it is not that though, black people are ridiculously underrepresented. black ppl make up 13% of the US population but think of all the famous actors and actresses you know - How many of them are black?

lol i could bet that the only famous actors and actresses that come to mind are will smith, halle berry and maybe some denzel washington there too.

think of all the tv shows you watch and tell me how many of the lead actors there are black

majority of the ppl are white, but black people are ridiculously underrepresented even below the 13% representation we should at least get from them

What about Morgan Freeman, one of the best actors ever imo.
Angela Besset, Jamie Foxx, Vannessa Williams, Wesley Snipes,Forest Whitaker,Pam Grier, also there are a lot of black people in the music industry.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 05:13 PM
Not really..the ones trying to deny it, those are the sad ones.

No I mean that if you feel that there's so much racism, you must not be happy in general and you think you're seen as inferior by the white race

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 05:20 PM
No I mean that if you feel that there's so much racism, you must not be happy in general and you think you're seen as inferior by the white race

Who says I think that the white race is superior? That's what they would LIKE us to think, but they can keep on dreaming. The only thing they can do now is try to deny us the money..you know no matter how much we prove ourselves, denying us the money..but the money will come...because the truth is the truth.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 05:24 PM
Who says I think that the white race is superior? That's what they would LIKE us to think, but they can keep on dreaming. The only thing they can do now is try to deny us the money..you know no matter how much we prove ourselves, denying us the money..but the money will come...because the truth is the truth.No, read again my post. Of course you dont think (nor do i) white people are superior :help:

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 05:26 PM
What about Morgan Freeman, one of the best actors ever imo.
Angela Besset, Jamie Foxx, Vannessa Williams, Wesley Snipes,Forest Whitaker,Pam Grier, also there are a lot of black people in the music industry.

In all the years of the academy awards...4 male winners and ONE female winner for best actress were black. In total just 13 black actors/actresses have won an academy award. Soo, come again?!

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 05:29 PM
In all the years of the academy awards...4 male winners and ONE female winner for best actress were black. In total just 13 black actors/actresses have won an academy award. Soo, come again?!

well compare that to the number of black tennis champions, surely if 13% of usa is black there would have to be more champions

LadyB
May 17th, 2012, 05:30 PM
well compare that to the number of black tennis champions, surely if 13% of usa is black there would have to be more champions
Do you even listen to yourself? :confused:

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 05:32 PM
I think those of you always throwing the race card must have a sad life tho...

what the fuck? you are SO IGNORANT

yes maybe black people have a sad life because of white people who act like you do

What about Morgan Freeman, one of the best actors ever imo.
Angela Besset, Jamie Foxx, Vannessa Williams, Wesley Snipes,Forest Whitaker,Pam Grier, also there are a lot of black people in the music industry.

none of these actors are big stars except maybe for morgan freeman but morgan freeman has never carried a movie as far as i know of, he always just plays support. it is not about who is the best actor or not, actually it is a testament to how underrepresented black people are when one of the most talented actors like morgan freeman are always just playing the support to some white neophyte.

give me black actors that are in the range of johnny depp,angelina jolie, brad pitt,julia roberts, george clooney,sandra bullock,tom cruise, keanu reeves,russel crowe, jennifer aniston, jim carrey, cameron diaz,leonardo dicaprio, robert downey jr,christian bale in terms of popularity and the amount of STARRING movie projects given and the only black actors in that league right now are will smith and denzel washington.

doomsday
May 17th, 2012, 05:35 PM
what the fuck? you are SO IGNORANT

yes maybe black people have a sad life because of white people who act like you do



none of these actors are big stars except maybe for morgan freeman but morgan freeman has never carried a movie as far as i know of, he always just plays support.

give me black actors that are in the range of johnny depp,angelina jolie, brad pitt,julia roberts, george clooney,sandra bullock,tom cruise, keanu reeves,russel crowe, jennifer aniston, jim carrey, cameron diaz,leonardo dicaprio in terms of popularity and the amount of STARRING movie projects given and the only black actors in that league right now are will smith and denzel washington.

Samuel Lee Jackson can be up there with them too but yeah they are very few.

duhcity
May 17th, 2012, 05:45 PM
Lord turning this thread into a race issue because Maria makes more than Serena.

:lol:

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 05:49 PM
Lord turning this thread into a race issue because Maria makes more than Serena.

:lol:

because it is

honestly if sharapova was black she wouldn't be as an attractive endorser as she is now especially since not all countries are not as "progressive" (and i say that loosely) as the United States - global endorsers need to be acceptable to global consumers and black people just do not have that universal acceptance that white ppl have

idk why sharapova fans are fighting it. I LOVE sharapova, i grew up watching serena playing tennis and then sharapova and i like those generations but i accept that she is a privileged person. EMBRACE THE PRIVILEGE. accept it because it's there... honestly,why even fight it. sharapova is making a shitload of money and to deny that a huge part of that is because she's white,blond and attractive is stupid and delusional

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 05:51 PM
well compare that to the number of black tennis champions, surely if 13% of usa is black there would have to be more champions

:facepalm: You do know that african americans even as late as the 1950 weren't even allowed to compete on the tour.

Novichok
May 17th, 2012, 05:52 PM
well compare that to the number of black tennis champions, surely if 13% of usa is black there would have to be more champions

:facepalm:

cautiouslip
May 17th, 2012, 05:56 PM
sharapova is making a shitload of money and to deny that a huge part of that is because she's white,blond and attractive is stupid and delusional

this is true, but also it's because she is media friendly - she knows how to handle her image and keep herself under control. When is the last time there was any kind of controversy with Maria in the media, as compared to say Serena who has had her fair share of back lash? Companies want someone who they can rely on to have a positive reflection on their product. The fact that she is an attractive blond female doesn't hurt either :P

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Lord turning this thread into a race issue because Maria makes more than Serena.

:lol:

You find this an amusing issue?! :fiery:
It's about the principle..if Masha was the dominating force, then there wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that the color of your skin STILL is gonna decide if you get paid or not.

slamchamp
May 17th, 2012, 05:57 PM
I looove seeing the pressed Williams fans:lol: Maria doubled Serena's incomes:haha: :awww:

Novichok
May 17th, 2012, 05:59 PM
I looove seeing the pressed Williams fans:lol: Maria doubled Serena's incomes:haha: :awww:

Yes, because Forbes is privy to what Serena is actually making. :yeah:

Sharapowerr
May 17th, 2012, 06:02 PM
You find this an amusing issue?! :fiery:
It's about the principle..if Masha was the dominating force, then there wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that the color of your skin STILL is gonna decide if you get paid or not.

Tiger woods tops the list:rolleyes: so what are you talking about?

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 06:02 PM
I looove seeing the pressed Williams fans:lol: Maria doubled Serena's incomes:haha: :awww:

This isn't something new...Anna K doubled Serena's income in the past too and she didn't even have a singles title. That's the world and reality we live in.

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 06:04 PM
Tiger woods tops the list:rolleyes: so what are you talking about?

Ah Tiger Woods, I guess you haven't seen his wive and girlfriends.

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:04 PM
this is true, but also it's because she is media friendly - she knows how to handle her image and keep herself under control. When is the last time there was any kind of controversy with Maria in the media, as compared to say Serena who has had her fair share of back lash? Companies want someone who they can rely on to have a positive reflection on their product. The fact that she is an attractive blond female doesn't hurt either :P

well this is true she takes good care of her image, but an image that wouldn't be there in the first place if she was not an attractive,blonde woman.
but i agree sharapova does take good care of her image and seems more involved in her branding than most other tennis players.

I looove seeing the pressed Williams fans:lol: Maria doubled Serena's incomes:haha: :awww:

i would be pressed if i were the benefactor of their earnings but seeing as these are two women who are living comfortably and can buy whatever they want whenever they want, seriously when you get to a point of like 100M in lifetime earnings, everything else is just gravy.....
what is funny is you being so proud of sharapova's money as if you can have your hands on any of it and spend it :lol:

and i love both rena and maria anyway so whatever

Sharapowerr
May 17th, 2012, 06:06 PM
This isn't something new...Anna K doubled Serena's income in the past too and she didn't even have a singles title. That's the world and reality we live in. Yeah, also Anna made more money than anyone else playing in that period, also more than Hingis and all the other girls, this isn't about Serenaor the skin color.

Stamp Paid
May 17th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I looove seeing the pressed Williams fans:lol: Maria doubled Serena's incomes:haha: :awww:Yes she better hug her money, because she sure ain't hugging a slam title anytime soon :lol:

slamchamp
May 17th, 2012, 06:07 PM
well this is true she takes good care of her image, but an image that wouldn't be there in the first place if she was not an attractive,blonde woman.
but i agree sharapova does take good care of her image and seems more involved in her branding than most other tennis players.



i would be pressed if i were the benefactor of their earnings but seeing as these are two women who are living comfortably and can buy whatever they want whenever they want, seriously when you get to a point of like 100M in lifetime earnings, everything else is just gravy.....
what is funny is you being so proud of sharapova's money as if you can have your hands on any of it and spend it :lol:

and i love both rena and maria anyway so whateverSo the whole point of being a fan makes no sense..Do Serena tards get on their hands any of Serena's trophies? the same for other players?:shrug: Plus I never said I was proud or anything I was just laughing at all of you:lol:

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Yeah, also Anna made more money than anyone else playing in that period, also more than Hingis and all the other girls, this isn't about Serenaor the skin color.

it is about a combination of a lot of things - skin color being one of them

kournikova and sharapova have what the world finds to be attractive, they are skinny women, tall, long legs, blonde, and yes, they are WHITE

it is a factor.it may not be the only factor but it is a factor whether you like it or not

can you imagine serena's earnings if she was blonde, white, tall, skinny and winning 13 grandslams at the same time?

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:10 PM
So the whole point of being a fan makes no sense..Do Serena tards get on their hands any of Serena's trophies? the same for other players?:shrug: Plus I never said I was proud or anything I was just laughing at all of you:lol:

being a fan is the pleasure of seeing your favorite play well and win a tournament because they played well, i am not a fan of anyone because they have a lot of money! but i guess you are

are you a fan of actors if they get a lot of money in the box office even if they are horrible at acting?

being a tennis fan is about loving the GAME not loving the annual earnings and being smug about it

Sharapowerr
May 17th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Ah Tiger Woods, I guess you haven't seen his wive and girlfriends.

This doesn't make any sense, i m saying Tiger Woods tops the list, and you mentioning his girlsfriends..

slamchamp
May 17th, 2012, 06:13 PM
being a fan is the pleasure of seeing your favorite play well and win a tournament because they played well, i am not a fan of anyone because they have a lot of money! but i guess you are

are you a fan of actors if they get a lot of money in the box office even if they are horrible at acting?

being a tennis fan is about loving the GAME not loving the annual earnings and being smug about itThat's YOUR defenition of being a fan..just caring about tournaments don't generalize to everyone. And you talk as if Maria was just given everything, she had nothing and built everything by herself..and not just cause she's pretty and blonde cause there are plenty of those around

Sharapowerr
May 17th, 2012, 06:15 PM
Ah Tiger Woods, I guess you haven't seen his wive and girlfriends.

it is about a combination of a lot of things - skin color being one of them

kournikova and sharapova have what the world finds to be attractive, they are skinny women, tall, long legs, blonde, and yes, they are WHITE

it is a factor.it may not be the only factor but it is a factor whether you like it or not

can you imagine serena's earnings if she wasblonde, white, tall, skinny and winning 13 grandslams at the same time?

Beyonce, than she would get more

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:16 PM
That's YOUR defenition of being a fan..just caring about tournaments don't generalize to everyone. And you talk as if Maria was just given everything, she had nothing and built everything by herself..and not just cause she's pretty and blonde cause there are plenty of those around

yeah that is what a TENNIS FAN is supposed to be: a lover of the game

it is not just my definition, why do you think we call it "tennis fan" and not "annual earnings in forbes magazine fan"

so i guess you admit you are not a tennis fan since you love sharapova's earnings more than the game itself :lol:

i'm sure maria has worked hard and i dont discount that but pls stop acting like her being white and blonde does not have a lot to do with all her earnings and successes, it is embarrassing, delusional and denying the obvious

MakarovaFan
May 17th, 2012, 06:17 PM
because it is

honestly if sharapova was black she wouldn't be as an attractive endorser as she is now especially since not all countries are not as "progressive" (and i say that loosely) as the United States - global endorsers need to be acceptable to global consumers and black people just do not have that universal acceptance that white ppl have

idk why sharapova fans are fighting it. I LOVE sharapova, i grew up watching serena playing tennis and then sharapova and i like those generations but i accept that she is a privileged person. EMBRACE THE PRIVILEGE. accept it because it's there... honestly,why even fight it. sharapova is making a shitload of money and to deny that a huge part of that is because she's white,blond and attractive is stupid and delusional

Tread carefully because the same can be said about Serena......if she wasn't a BLACK female tennis star do you really think she would have fame and attention she gets?? Hell when they were coming up, you couldn't find an article written on her that didn't mention her race; even know she/they are those "black" girls that play tennis.

Wozzilroy
May 17th, 2012, 06:18 PM
Samuel Lee Jackson can be up there with them too but yeah they are very few.

I was thinking about this one time, I thought ' He must know someone, how he get so many parts is beyond me, he's a poor actor.'

slamchamp
May 17th, 2012, 06:19 PM
yeah that is what a TENNIS FAN is supposed to be: a lover of the game

it is not just my definition, why do you think we call it "tennis fan" and not "annual earnings in forbes magazine fan"

so i guess you admit you are not a tennis fan since you love sharapova's earnings more than the game itself :lol:

i'm sure maria has worked hard and i dont discount that but pls stop acting like her being white and blonde does not have a lot to do with all her earnings and successes, it is embarrassing, delusional and denying the obvious

And when did I say that....:unsure:
Whatever stay pressed:lol: bye

Macomere
May 17th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Yes she better hug her money, because she sure ain't hugging a slam title anytime soon :lol:

:crying2:

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:19 PM
Tread carefully because the same can be said about Serena......if she wasn't a BLACK female tennis star do you really think she would have fame and attention she gets?? Hell when they were coming up, you couldn't find an article written on her that didn't mention her race; even know she/they are those "black" girls that play tennis.

what are you talking about:facepalm: people are so embarrassing with their racism sometimes :facepalm: i don't think you even understand what you are saying here.... that a 13 slam champion gets so much attention because she is black? :facepalm:

wow it is draining to argue with people who cannot even acknowledge the role racism plays in everyday life of a black person.

congratulations on all your white privilege... It must be nice to walk in this world thinking there is no prejudice just because you don't experience it. I'm done.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 06:20 PM
And when did I say that....:unsure:
Whatever stay pressed:lol: bye

They can stay envious. Is it ours or maria's fault serena is unattractive... on the outside? :confused:

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:21 PM
And when did I say that....:unsure:
Whatever stay pressed:lol: bye

stay pressed???:lol: what are you even saying oh my God is that all the debate you people have in you. such high school hijinx.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 06:21 PM
what are you talking about:facepalm: people are so embarrassing with their racism sometimes :facepalm: i don't think you even understand what you are saying here.... that a 13 slam champion gets so much attention because she is black? :facepalm:

wow it is draining to argue with people who cannot even acknowledge the role racism plays in everyday life of a black person.

congratulations on all your white privilege... It must be nice to walk in this world thinking there is no prejudice just because you don't experience it. I'm done.

justine henin had like 7 slams and she never got any endorsement attention from it

MakarovaFan
May 17th, 2012, 06:22 PM
yeah that is what a TENNIS FAN is supposed to be: a lover of the game

it is not just my definition, why do you think we call it "tennis fan" and not "annual earnings in forbes magazine fan"

so i guess you admit you are not a tennis fan since you love sharapova's earnings more than the game itself :lol:

i'm sure maria has worked hard and i dont discount that but pls stop acting like her being white and blonde does not have a lot to do with all her earnings and successes, it is embarrassing, delusional and denying the obvious
:rolleyes: Hantuchova,Kirilenko,Schett.....i could go on and on, those girls all fit the mold yet where are they on those lists?? So i'm sorry but talent,accomplishments and abitilies have ALOT to do with her success and earnings therefore if you don't see that then it is embarrassing,delusional and denying the truth; obviously being attractive, blonde,tall doens't hurt and it def makes her marketable but if she sucked and had no success then there really isn't much to market:confused:

slamchamp
May 17th, 2012, 06:22 PM
stay pressed???:lol: what are you even saying oh my God is that all the debate you people have in you. such high school hijinx.
I prefer doing other things than debating online with YOU really:unsure:

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:22 PM
They can stay envious. Is it ours or maria's fault serena is unattractive... on the outside? :confused:

you are the worst kind of person. seriously.

do you people even think about what you say?

this is why i say that racism is still alive and kicking today and in some ways it's worse because people are racist but refuse to acknowledge it just because they don't have some black slaves lying around at home

argh, why do i even bother

you people are blind

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:24 PM
:rolleyes: Hantuchova,Kirilenko,Schett.....i could go on and on, those girls all fit the mold yet where are they on those lists?? So i'm sorry but talent,accomplishments and abitilies have ALOT to do with her success and earnings therefore if you don't see that then it is embarrassing,delusional and denying the truth; obviously being attractive, blonde,tall doens't hurt and it def makes her marketable but if she sucked and had no success then there really isn't much to market:confused:

I HAve already said in this thread that it is some of the factors

Maria has a lot of qualities that make her attractive to people and being blonde and white are some of the factors

why do you even try to deny it.
do you honestly think if sharapova is black she would be earning as much

ok u are just delusional

PLEASE READ EVERYTHING BEFORE COMMENTING

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 06:24 PM
you are the worst kind of person. seriously.

do you people even think about what you say?

this is why i say that racism is still alive and kicking today and in some ways it's worse because people are racist but refuse to acknowledge it just because they don't have some black slaves lying around at home

argh, why do i even bother

you people are blind

wtf? you're so damn paranoid lmao. OMG I must be racist against whites cause I think Radwanska is unattractive too :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Poor you.

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:24 PM
I prefer doing other things than debating online with YOU really:unsure:

nah, you just don't have anything else to say than your "stay pressed" rhetoric

go on little high school girl

nealcaffrey
May 17th, 2012, 06:25 PM
wtf? you're so damn paranoid lmao. OMG I must be racist against whites cause I think Radwanska is unattractive too :confused::confused::confused::confused:

Poor you.

you are the worst kind of person

seriously

read the comments you have made on this thread

you are the worst

poor me indeed to have to deal with people like you on an everyday basis

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 06:26 PM
you are the worst kind of person

seriously

read the comments you have made on this thread

you are the worst

poor me indeed to have to deal with people like you on an everyday basis

I already reported you. Using the race card and calling someone racist without justification makes you look like a piece of shit, good luck in life, you'll need it!

MakarovaFan
May 17th, 2012, 06:27 PM
what are you talking about:facepalm: people are so embarrassing with their racism sometimes :facepalm: i don't think you even understand what you are saying here.... that a 13 slam champion gets so much attention because she is black? :facepalm:

wow it is draining to argue with people who cannot even acknowledge the role racism plays in everyday life of a black person.

congratulations on all your white privilege... It must be nice to walk in this world thinking there is no prejudice just because you don't experience it. I'm done.
FAIL....i'm NOT white!! Anywho Henin got 7 slams but where was her attention; hell Graf truimphs Serena but you can't seriously say Graf got "this" kind of fame and attention. Sure Serena would have been a star TENNIS champion herealded throughout but we aren't talking tennis here, we are talking fame and celebrity soooo....

Fact is if Serena wasn't an African American youth dominating in women's tennis then she WOULD NOT have recieved the press nor more importantly fame/celebrity she has now!!! Being black has brought her just as much fame and attnention as Anna got by being hot and Maria by being a tall blonde beauty.

slamchamp
May 17th, 2012, 06:28 PM
nah, you just don't have anything else to say than your "stay pressed" rhetoric

go on little high school girl
And you still go on with your little debate that seems to fill your life so much:awww:

The Daviator
May 17th, 2012, 06:29 PM
God, are some Sharapova fans really acting like she's superior because she earned more money than Serena :help: Things must be really bad for them, either that or Madrid is still hurting bad.

According to this list, Kim Kardashian earned $6m more than Meryl Streep. Money is not the sole indication of quality.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 06:29 PM
And you still go on with your little debate that seems to fill your life so much:awww:

:lol::lol::lol::lol:Let's just leave this fool here or he'll go insane.

slamchamp
May 17th, 2012, 06:30 PM
God, are some Sharapova fans really acting like she's superior because she earned more money than Serena :help: Things must be really bad for them, either that or Madrid is still hurting bad.

According to this list, Kim Kardashian earned $6m more than Meryl Streep. Money is no indication of quality.

and who starting complaining about how much did maria make?:o

Macomere
May 17th, 2012, 06:32 PM
God, are some Sharapova fans really acting like she's superior because she earned more money than Serena :help: Things must be really bad for them, either that or Madrid is still hurting bad.

According to this list, Kim Kardashian earned $6m more than Meryl Streep. Money is not the sole indication of quality.

:yeah: This couldn't be more true...especially in the case of Serena/Ms.Shoulderpova

The Daviator
May 17th, 2012, 06:32 PM
and who starting complaining about how much did maria make?:o

Well post number 3 was all class.

Who else? the star of the WTA :hearts:

lessers stay mad.

cautiouslip
May 17th, 2012, 06:35 PM
I'd rather maria trade spots with serena on the list if it meant more slam titles. I'm sure maria would too :shrug:

Annie.
May 17th, 2012, 06:35 PM
God, are some Sharapova fans really acting like she's superior because she earned more money than Serena :help: Things must be really bad for them, either that or Madrid is still hurting bad.

According to this list, Kim Kardashian earned $6m more than Meryl Streep. Money is not the sole indication of quality.

:sobbing: That's disgusting.

Raiden
May 17th, 2012, 06:48 PM
Kim Kardashian earned $6m more than Meryl Streep...And that's nothing compared to what she's gonna get soon


http://static1.hln.be/static/photo/2012/6/9/14/20120513095512/album_large_4824524.jpg

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 06:52 PM
Tread carefully because the same can be said about Serena......if she wasn't a BLACK female tennis star do you really think she would have fame and attention she gets?? Hell when they were coming up, you couldn't find an article written on her that didn't mention her race; even know she/they are those "black" girls that play tennis.

That should tell you everything..black tennis players were soo noteworthy, people couldn't stop making a deal of it.
That people wrote about it, doesn't mean that people embraced it.

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 07:01 PM
They can stay envious. Is it ours or maria's fault serena is unattractive... on the outside? :confused:

Serena is unattractive, huh?! :lol: If you say so...
anyways..there's no need to be envious. Serena still got the money and the titles. Maria only got the money, I guess that helps lessen the pain.

doomsday
May 17th, 2012, 07:06 PM
Serena is unattractive, huh?! :lol: If you say so...
anyways..there's no need to be envious. Serena still got the money and the titles. Maria only got the money, I guess that helps lessen the pain.

She has titles just less than Serena, stop acting like Maria is some kind of Kournikova BIS.

duhcity
May 17th, 2012, 07:31 PM
You find this an amusing issue?! :fiery:
It's about the principle..if Masha was the dominating force, then there wouldn't be a problem. The problem is that the color of your skin STILL is gonna decide if you get paid or not.

No, the beauty of your face is going to decide if you get paid or not.
And as far as I see, Serena is paid plenty. You can frame your argument however you like, but let's not forget that Serena is making tens of millions. I would beg to be the victim of racist vitrol if I could even get 5 million.

Morrissey
May 17th, 2012, 07:38 PM
This is a silly American list I am sure Djokovic is making millions of dollars in endorsements.

Novichok
May 17th, 2012, 07:40 PM
This is a silly American list I am sure Djokovic is making millions of dollars in endorsements.

Goderer and Nadal are both on the list. :)

LadyB
May 17th, 2012, 07:44 PM
No, the beauty of your face is going to decide if you get paid or not.
And as far as I see, Serena is paid plenty. You can frame your argument however you like, but let's not forget that Serena is making tens of millions. I would beg to be the victim of racist vitrol if I could even get 5 million.

You have no idea what you're even talking about :help:

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 07:54 PM
She has titles just less than Serena, stop acting like Maria is some kind of Kournikova BIS.

Indeed...and Serena has the money, just less than Masha still.

bobito
May 17th, 2012, 07:55 PM
Jennifer Lopez at 1?
Justin Bieber at 3?
Britney Spears at 6?
Kim Kardashian at 7?

This does not seem to be a list that puts a great deal of value on talent. :shrug:

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 07:55 PM
No, the beauty of your face is going to decide if you get paid or not.
And as far as I see, Serena is paid plenty. You can frame your argument however you like, but let's not forget that Serena is making tens of millions. I would beg to be the victim of racist vitrol if I could even get 5 million.

a beautiful white face would still get paid more than a beautiful black face..let's not delude ourselves.

Ciarán
May 17th, 2012, 08:03 PM
a beautiful white face would still get paid more than a beautiful black face..let's not delude ourselves.

You think Maria Sharapova gets more endorsements because she's white? :lol:. Why do Serena fans have to turn everything into a race issue? This list is based on cold hard $$$

donellcarey
May 17th, 2012, 08:16 PM
Yes she better hug her money, because she sure ain't hugging a slam title anytime soon :lol:

Oops, Juju bitch strikes again:oh:

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 08:17 PM
You think Maria Sharapova gets more endorsements because she's white? :lol:. Why do Serena fans have to turn everything into a race issue? This list is based on cold hard $$$

Good for Maria..she earned it. You ask why turn everything into a race issue?! Why do you wanna act like it isn't an issue? Oistrich-much?

GoofyDuck
May 17th, 2012, 08:22 PM
Cool Na made the list :worship:

offtopic: This is obviously US centered list.
Kardashian is not popular whatsoever in Europe

donellcarey
May 17th, 2012, 08:23 PM
And as for me, I'd literally stay away from the top of any chart that has Justin Bieber and Kim Kardashian in the top 10, it just ain't right:lol:

Ciarán
May 17th, 2012, 08:36 PM
Good for Maria..she earned it. You ask why turn everything into a race issue?! Why do you wanna act like it isn't an issue? Oistrich-much?

I think that is was an issue, but I do not think it is an issue now. Gurl, you gonna die with that chip on your shoulder :lol:. Let us not forget that racism does not only exist in White>Black. It operates very strongly in Black>White too. I'm sure you'll be happy to know that new figures released today show that Caucasians are now the minority in the USA. Soon Maria is going to be overtaken by Serena on that list because pretty white girls will be less preferred than pretty black girls. Devastated :(

And as for me, I'd literally stay away from the top of any chart that has Justin Bieber and Kim Kardashian in the top 10, it just ain't right:lol:

Good for you gurl. Though I am 100% sure your fickle ass would be raving about this list had Serena been ahead of Maria.

LadyB
May 17th, 2012, 08:47 PM
I think that is was an issue, but I do not think it is an issue now. Gurl, you gonna die with that chip on your shoulder :lol:. Let us not forget that racism does not only exist in White>Black. It operates very strongly in Black>White too. I'm sure you'll be happy to know that new figures released today show that Caucasians are now the minority in the USA.
What kind of ignorance is this :haha:

Soon Maria is going to be overtaken by Serena on that list because pretty white girls will be less preferred than pretty black girls. Devastated :(

Good for you gurl. Though I am 100% sure your fickle ass would be raving about this list had Serena been ahead of Maria.

You're ignorance is showing again. You have no clue how the standards of beauty work in this world. It is the people in power that control such things and they are 80% white. How many black models do you see on the cover of magazines?
Keep living in your delusional world :kiss:

bandabou
May 17th, 2012, 08:50 PM
I think that is was an issue, but I do not think it is an issue now. Gurl, you gonna die with that chip on your shoulder :lol:. Let us not forget that racism does not only exist in White>Black. It operates very strongly in Black>White too. I'm sure you'll be happy to know that new figures released today show that Caucasians are now the minority in the USA. Soon Maria is going to be overtaken by Serena on that list because pretty white girls will be less preferred than pretty black girls. Devastated :(



Good for you gurl. Though I am 100% sure your fickle ass would be raving about this list had Serena been ahead of Maria.

It's not about minority...it's about who controls the money. The caucasians have taken good care to make it that they'll always be the one that control the money and hence will always have the power.

Ciarán
May 17th, 2012, 08:50 PM
What kind of ignorance is this :haha:



You're ignorance is showing again. You have no clue how the standards of beauty work in this world. It is the people in power that control such things and they are 80% white. How many black models do you see on the cover of magazines?
Keep living in your delusional world :kiss:

Hey gurl.

http://barackobamabiography.org/images/barack-hussein-obama.jpg

I do believe this is the leader (person in control) of the most powerful and influential country in the world.

http://cdn.concreteloop.com/wp-content/uploads/serena_vogue_olympics.jpg

Hey gurl, biggest and most influential magazine in the world x0x. Oh shit, it's yo' homegurrl

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzb1h7p5i51qaropco1_500.gif

Ciarán
May 17th, 2012, 08:55 PM
It's not about minority...it's about who controls the money. The caucasians have taken good care to make it that they'll always be the one that control the money and hence will always have the power.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3monsVRXB1qa4g28o1_500.gif

Gurl, this is 2012. I think someone left your ass in 1880.

Novichok
May 17th, 2012, 08:58 PM
I think that is was an issue, but I do not think it is an issue now. Gurl, you gonna die with that chip on your shoulder :lol:. Let us not forget that racism does not only exist in White>Black. It operates very strongly in Black>White too. I'm sure you'll be happy to know that new figures released today show that Caucasians are now the minority in the USA. Soon Maria is going to be overtaken by Serena on that list because pretty white girls will be less preferred than pretty black girls. Devastated :(


I don't believe that. :lol: Where are these numbers?

Marilyn Monheaux
May 17th, 2012, 08:59 PM
Hey gurl.

http://barackobamabiography.org/images/barack-hussein-obama.jpg

I do believe this is the leader (person in control) of the most powerful and influential country in the world.

http://cdn.concreteloop.com/wp-content/uploads/serena_vogue_olympics.jpg

Hey gurl, biggest and most influential magazine in the world x0x. Oh shit, it's yo' homegurrl



:facepalm:
Having a black president is not some kind of magic potion that makes everyone equal, you know?
Having a black president does not get black actresses in Hollywood the same kind of jobs white actresses get.
Having a black president does not get black singers (especially female) the same mainstream attention white singers get.
Having a black president does not change the fact that more than 90% of the big & meaningful magazine covers go to white models.
Having a black president does not change the fact that black models are very rarely cast in ad campaigs of the big European fashion houses.
Etc...


Maria makes more money than Serena off the court because she's beautiful, blond, tall and yes, white. That's a fact. Anyone who says that otherwise needs a serious reality check. If Maria was a beautiful, tall, black girl, she would still have been able to get some big deals, but she would not make the money she's making now.
In my opinion.

ETA: One Vogue cover doesn't mean sh*t. Out of the 12 covers every year (36 counting Vogue Italia & Vogue Paris), how many go to black models / actresses? 5? 6? Max.

ETA2:
Vogue US had one black cover star in 2011 - Rihanna
Vogue Italia had ZERO
Vogue Paris had ZERO as well

LadyB
May 17th, 2012, 09:00 PM
Hey gurl.

http://barackobamabiography.org/images/barack-hussein-obama.jpg

I do believe this is the leader (person in control) of the most powerful and influential country in the world.
Right he's the person in charge of setting beauty standards :spit: You know damn well which people I was refering to. Keep playing dumb.

http://cdn.concreteloop.com/wp-content/uploads/serena_vogue_olympics.jpg

Hey gurl, biggest and most influential magazine in the world x0x. Oh shit, it's yo' homegurrl

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzb1h7p5i51qaropco1_500.gif

Right 1 example from this year proves your point. Please sit the fuck down. For everyone 1 cover you can find with a black girl I can find five times the amount for white women.
If you're seriously trying to argue that black women and white women are equally represented in magazines then I have nothing to say to you. No point in even arguing. Hope you educate yourself a bit on the subject cause you're sounding really ignorant.

Craig.
May 17th, 2012, 09:02 PM
I knew this thread would turn a hot ass fucking mess :lol:

LadyB
May 17th, 2012, 09:03 PM
I don't believe that. :lol: Where are these numbers?
Those numbers are most probably fake. Just in 2010 the ratio was 72.4 - 12.6 % and he/she wants us to believe that it changed in two years.
DEAD

Ciarán
May 17th, 2012, 09:07 PM
:facepalm:
Having a black president is not some kind of magic potion that makes everyone equal, you know?
Having a black president does not get black actresses in Hollywood the same kind of jobs white actresses get.
Having a black president does not get black singers (especially female) the same mainstream attention white singers get.
Having a black president does not change the fact that more than 90% of the big & meaningful magazine covers go to white models.
Having a black president does not change the fact that black models are very rarely cast in ad campaigs of the big European fashion houses.
Etc...


Maria makes more money than Serena off the court because she's beautiful, blond, tall and yes, white. That's a fact. Anyone who says that otherwise needs a serious reality check. If Maria was a beautiful, tall, black girl, she would still have been able to get some big deals, but she would not make the money she's making now.
In my opinion.

ETA: One Vogue cover doesn't mean sh*t. Out of the 12 covers every year (36 counting Vogue Italia & Vogue Paris), how many go to black models / actresses? 5? 6? Max.


1. So, when someone is a lesser, they're awarded the most powerful position in the world?
2. Halle Berry? Whoopi Goldberg? Angela Bassett? Jada Pinkett? Thandi Newton?
3. Aretha Franklin? Whitney Houston? Mariah Carey? Janet Jackson? Mary J.Blige?
4. Tyra Banks? Naomi Campbell? Iman?
5. Do you even follow fashion? :haha:

I am sure it is not a conscious effort to 'keep black women off magazine covers and endorsements'. Your argument is ridiculous. YOU have the problem. YOU are the sick, fucked up and backward thinking individual. Keep that chip, enjoy it. All of your arguments are dated. Done and dusted. Your backward thinking is a burden to society and does not promote productivity. Do everyone a favour please...:lol:

EDIT: Your racist ass is forgetting a wealth of other races who adorn the face of magazines and endorsements. From Hispanic to Chinese! Your racist ignorance is forgetting these minorities. They're people too, you know? They deserve their time in the limelight too!

ampers&
May 17th, 2012, 09:18 PM
You guys do realize that Ciaran is the typical hipster c*nt who really could care less about racism or social inequalities and he is, instead, using ironic racism and willful ignorance to humor himself and invoke a superfluous argument and racial discord between posters in this thread? You guys do realize that, right? :lol: Why humor him? :facepalm:

Slutiana
May 17th, 2012, 09:22 PM
I think that is was an issue, but I do not think it is an issue now. Gurl, you gonna die with that chip on your shoulder :lol:. Let us not forget that racism does not only exist in White>Black. It operates very strongly in Black>White too. I'm sure you'll be happy to know that new figures released today show that Caucasians are now the minority in the USA. Soon Maria is going to be overtaken by Serena on that list because pretty white girls will be less preferred than pretty black girls. Devastated :(



Good for you gurl. Though I am 100% sure your fickle ass would be raving about this list had Serena been ahead of Maria.

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Gurl, this is 2012. I think someone left your ass in 1880.

1. So, when someone is a lesser, they're awarded the most powerful position in the world?
2. Halle Berry? Whoopi Goldberg? Angela Bassett? Jada Pinkett? Thandi Newton?
3. Aretha Franklin? Whitney Houston? Mariah Carey? Janet Jackson? Mary J.Blige?
4. Tyra Banks? Naomi Campbell? Iman?
5. Do you even follow fashion? :haha:

I am sure it is not a conscious effort to 'keep black women off magazine covers and endorsements'. Your agrument is ridiculous. YOU have the problem. YOU are the sick, fucked up and backward thinking individual. Keep that chip, enjoy it. All of your arguments are dated. Done and dusted. Your backward thinking is a burden to society and does not promote productivity. Do everyone a favour please...:lol:
Stupid ignorance.

Racism is a lot more complicated than discrimination. Posting these random prominent black names makes no sense when there are ten white people for each of them. Straight, white men will always be the group that holds the institutional power. Just as there's no such thing as reverse sexism or heterophobia, there is no such thing reverse racism.

And no, nobody is living in 1880. Racism still exists and runs rampant in the world today -- your white privilege just protects you from seeing it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2367351606_b026ea1800.jpg

Marilyn Monheaux
May 17th, 2012, 09:24 PM
1. So, when someone is a lesser, they're awarded the most powerful position in the world?
2. Halle Berry? Whoopi Goldberg? Angela Bassett? Jada Pinkett? Thandi Newton?
3. Aretha Franklin? Whitney Houston? Mariah Carey? Janet Jackson? Mary J.Blige?
4. Tyra Banks? Naomi Campbell? Iman?
5. Do you even follow fashion? :haha:

I am sure it is not a conscious effort to 'keep black women off magazine covers and endorsements'. Your argument is ridiculous. YOU have the problem. YOU are the sick, fucked up and backward thinking individual. Keep that chip, enjoy it. All of your arguments are dated. Done and dusted. Your backward thinking is a burden to society and does not promote productivity. Do everyone a favour please...:lol:

EDIT: Your racist ass is forgetting a wealth of other races who adorn the face of magazines and endorsements. From Hispanic to Chinese! Your racist ignorance is forgetting these minorities. They're people too, you know? They deserve their time in the limelight too!


2. :spit: What big roles have Halle, Whoopi, Angela, Jada and Thandi had the past 5 years compared to Charlize, Angelina, Michelle Williams, Julia Roberts, Kristen Stewart,... hell, even Megan Fox???

3. Idiot. Their talent was undeniable. When have you ever seen a black Kesha? A black Katy Perry? A black Britney? This type of ish don't fly. Black women don't get the same chances, white women in the music industry get. As a black women you are either uber talented (Bey), know the right people and have the look (Rih) or start out Urban, yet sell out eventually (Nicki).

4. Ever heard the term "token"? Tyra was alway the token black VS Angel. Naomi was the one token black model of her time. Iman of her time.

5. Yes, I do follow fashion. Do you know how many black models other than Joan Smalls were able to get ad campaigns this season? HA. HA.


You're just dumb. There is a concious effort to keep black women off magazine covers in a sense that everyone wants to make money. And issues with black women on the cover sell less. In the US. In the UK. In Italy. In France.
And hell no, I'm not forgetting Asians or Hispanics. I was comparing black & white, meaning caucasion you dumba**.

Ciarán
May 17th, 2012, 09:31 PM
Stupid ignorance.

Racism is a lot more complicated than discrimination. Posting these random prominent black names makes no sense when there are ten white people for each of them. Straight, white men will always be the group that holds the institutional power. Just as there's no such thing as reverse sexism or heterophobia, there is no such thing reverse racism.

And no, nobody is living in 1880. Racism still exists and runs rampant in the world today -- your white privilege just protects you from seeing it.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2101/2367351606_b026ea1800.jpg

Again, Barack Obama. You think that ONLY white people can be racist? You are wrong, Tutu. What I see is, black people using previous racial discrimination against them as a shroud for the projection of their own racism. You just proved that by suggesting my ignorance is because of my race.



2. :spit: What big roles have Halle, Whoopi, Angela, Jada and Thandi had the past 5 years compared to Charlize, Angelina, Michelle Williams, Julia Roberts, Kristen Stewart,... hell, even Megan Fox???

3. Idiot. Their talent was undeniable. When have you ever seen a black Kesha? A black Katy Perry? A black Britney? This type of ish don't fly. Black women don't get the same chances, white women in the music industry get. As a black women you are either uber talented (Bey), know the right people and have the look (Rih) or start out Urban, yet sell out eventually (Nicki).

4. Ever heard the term "token"? Tyra was alway the token black VS Angel. Naomi was the one token black model of her time. Iman of her time.

5. Yes, I do follow fashion. Do you know how many black models other than Joan Smalls were able to get ad campaigns this season? HA. HA.


You're just dumb. There is a concious effort to keep black women off magazine covers in a sense that everyone wants to make money. And issues with black women on the cover sell less. In the US. In the UK. In Italy. In France.
And hell no, I'm not forgetting Asians or Hispanics. I was comparing black & white, meaning caucasion you dumba**.

Who said those actresses went for roles? There is such thing as inactivity. You're picking here. This is not about ratios and people are not machines that can be drafted into certain positions. They have to want it, as much as it is 'allowed'. As for the rest, it is the biggest pile of shite I have ever read in my entire life.

Queenpova
May 17th, 2012, 09:37 PM
When have you ever seen a black Kesha? A black Katy Perry? A black Britney?

Hmmm... Rihanna, Christina milian... :wavey:

Keep trying.

NashaMasha
May 17th, 2012, 09:38 PM
Posting these random prominent black names makes no sense when there are ten white people for each of them.
because there are 9 white people for 1 black even in USA .... Just be talented , beautiful, try the best and you will be as Tyra Banks on all covers

In Russia there are less than 1% black population , but department stores are overwhelmed by Naomi Campbell Ads and John Robert Holden playing for Russian basketball national team was one of the most popular players in it

Charlatan
May 17th, 2012, 09:41 PM
:speakles: this thread

get it locked ASAP

Marilyn Monheaux
May 17th, 2012, 09:42 PM
because there are 9 white people for 1 black even in USA .... Just be talented , beautiful, try the best and you will be as Tyra Banks on all covers

In Russia there are less than 1% black population , but department stores are overwhelmed by Naomi Campbell Ads and John Robert Holden playing for Russian basketball national team was one of the most popular players in it



:haha: :haha: :hah: :hah: :hah: :happy: :happy: :happy:

dybbuk
May 17th, 2012, 09:42 PM
You guys do realize that Ciaran is the typical hipster c*nt who really could care less about racism or social inequalities and he is, instead, using ironic racism and willful ignorance to humor himself and invoke a superfluous argument and racial discord between posters in this thread? You guys do realize that, right? :lol: Why humor him? :facepalm:

The truth. He also likes to pretend he knows hip-hop too. He comes off as a textbook example of a sheltered white kid who thinks he "understands" what it's like to be black, and refuses to listen to black people when they try and educate him.

Ciaran. Did you know that in some states of the US the majority of white people are still against black people being allowed to marry white people? Did you know that black people are disproportionally likely to live in poverty, are disproportionally more likely to be sent to jail, and are still less likely to get jobs when against equally or less qualified white competitors? Not that long ago it was shown that having a "black sounding" name made you less likely to get a callback for a job. This still happens in 2012, hunty.

And there's NO WAY you can make an argument that black people get equal opportunity in pop culture. Absolutely no way. What black people are ever the faces of blockbuster hits? Will Smith and Halle Berry? How many blockbusters have they had against Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Cameron Diaz, the list goes on. To even argue that Hollywood doesn't favor attractive white people is such drivel. Even go look at the list of Oscar winners. It's STILL a big deal for black directors to be nominate or black actors to win, because that's such a novelty even in 2012. We go entire years with all the major categories being full of white people, with no PoC in site.

In music do you ever notice how 98% of black people who have chart success do either R&B/Soul or hip-hop? Do you think that's a coincidence? It's not. It's because black people are still supposed to have "soul," and to act that role. That's why black artists like Santogold get so pissed, because so many people assume she likes R&B and is influenced by it. Many people still can't wrap their heads around black people who don't like those types of music and like rock or "white" types of music. Compare to Eminem, Adele, Amy Winehouse, Duffy, etc. All these white artists who can regularly get major success being influenced by "black music."

You have no serious argument, and I'm being kind. I could call your argument full of ignorance that borders on the highly offensive. Did you know the US is STILL having black face problems? There was a racist black face sketch during the OSCARS just this year that offended many black people. And as for Obama, we still REGULARLY hear racist things from elected officials and tv personalities, let alone regular people. Foodstamps President? Obama the Magic Negro? Shit like this still happens here. If you would actually give serious thought to what black people tell you, maybe you wouldn't be making ignorant claims suggesting that just because Obama gets elected racism is a relic of the past. And realize your white privilege is the only reason you can even approach racism in such a careless manner, because you don't know what racism even is firsthand.

NashaMasha
May 17th, 2012, 09:47 PM
Did you know that in some states of the US the majority of white people are still against black people being allowed to marry white people?

What's about jews? they also very often not allow to marry representatives of other nations....

As for the rest, do you really think the black/white stars should be 50/50% ? AFAIK black popultion in USA is 12-15% , isn't it?

just because Obama gets elected racism is a relic of the past

it will not be a relic for centuries as well as nationalism and some other stupid prejudices between people .... But this terms will belong to some marginalized groups and not the society

ampers&
May 17th, 2012, 09:48 PM
The truth. He also likes to pretend he knows hip-hop too. He comes off as a textbook example of a sheltered white kid who thinks he "understands" what it's like to be black, and refuses to listen to black people when they try and educate him.

Ciaran. Did you know that in some states of the US the majority of white people are still against black people being allowed to marry white people? Did you know that black people are disproportionally likely to live in poverty, are disproportionally more likely to be sent to jail, and are still less likely to get jobs when against equally or less qualified white competitors? Not that long ago it was shown that having a "black sounding" name made you less likely to get a callback for a job. This still happens in 2012, hunty.

And there's NO WAY you can make an argument that black people get equal opportunity in pop culture. Absolutely no way. What black people are ever the faces of blockbuster hits? Will Smith and Halle Berry? How many blockbusters have they had against Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Cameron Diaz, the list goes on. To even argue that Hollywood doesn't favor attractive white people is such drivel. Even go look at the list of Oscar winners. It's STILL a big deal for black directors to be nominate or black actors to win, because that's such a novelty even in 2012. We go entire years with all the major categories being full of white people, with no PoC in site.

In music do you ever notice how 98% of black people who have chart success do either R&B/Soul or hip-hop? Do you think that's a coincidence? It's not. It's because black people are still supposed to have "soul," and to act that role. That's why black artists like Santogold get so pissed, because so many people assume she likes R&B and is influenced by it. Many people still can't wrap their heads around black people who don't like those types of music and like rock or "white" types of music. Compare to Eminem, Adele, Amy Winehouse, Duffy, etc. All these white artists who can regularly get major success doing "black music."

You have no serious argument, and I'm being kind. I could call your argument full of ignorance that borders on the highly offensive. Did you know the US is STILL having black face problems? There was a racist black face sketch during the OSCARS just this year that offended many black people. And as for Obama, we still REGULARLY hear racist things from elected officials and tv personalities, let alone regular people. Foodstamps President? Obama the Magic Negro? Shit like this still happens here. If you would actually give serious thought to what black people tell you, maybe you wouldn't be making ignorant claims suggesting that just because Obama gets elected racism is a relic of the past. And realize your white privilege is the only reason you can even approach racism in such a careless manner, because you don't know what racism even is firsthand.
Exactly.

He frequently uses ironic racism to compensate for his obvious lack of worldly knowledge and his limited, privileged experiences. I always read his posts and often find myself laughing at his failed attempts at being humorously indifferent and willfully ignorant about social inequalities (and racism in general) in an effort to stir the pot and invoke said racial discord. I can tell he finds humor in this when the truth is he doesn’t even really care about what he’s saying as it has never impacted him in anyway and probably never will. It’s pathetic in a lot of ways. He’s not nearly as progressive as he thinks he is. Nor is he as intelligent. Or funny. I'm starting to think he does this on purpose when he’s bored just because. Because how can anyone truly be that stupid? :lol:

Ciarán
May 17th, 2012, 09:51 PM
The truth. He also likes to pretend he knows hip-hop too. He comes off as a textbook example of a sheltered white kid who thinks he "understands" what it's like to be black, and refuses to listen to black people when they try and educate him.

Ciaran. Did you know that in some states of the US the majority of white people are still against black people being allowed to marry white people? Did you know that black people are disproportionally likely to live in poverty, are disproportionally more likely to be sent to jail, and are still less likely to get jobs when against equally or less qualified white competitors? Not that long ago it was shown that having a "black sounding" name made you less likely to get a callback for a job. This still happens in 2012, hunty.

And there's NO WAY you can make an argument that black people get equal opportunity in pop culture. Absolutely no way. What black people are ever the faces of blockbuster hits? Will Smith and Halle Berry? How many blockbusters have they had against Jennifer Aniston, Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Cameron Diaz, the list goes on. To even argue that Hollywood doesn't favor attractive white people is such drivel. Even go look at the list of Oscar winners. It's STILL a big deal for black directors to be nominate or black actors to win, because that's such a novelty even in 2012. We go entire years with all the major categories being full of white people, with no PoC in site.

In music do you ever notice how 98% of black people who have chart success do either R&B/Soul or hip-hop? Do you think that's a coincidence? It's not. It's because black people are still supposed to have "soul," and to act that role. That's why black artists like Santogold get so pissed, because so many people assume she likes R&B and is influenced by it. Many people still can't wrap their heads around black people who don't like those types of music and like rock or "white" types of music. Compare to Eminem, Adele, Amy Winehouse, Duffy, etc. All these white artists who can regularly get major success being influenced by "black music."

You have no serious argument, and I'm being kind. I could call your argument full of ignorance that borders on the highly offensive. Did you know the US is STILL having black face problems? There was a racist black face sketch during the OSCARS just this year that offended many black people. And as for Obama, we still REGULARLY hear racist things from elected officials and tv personalities, let alone regular people. Foodstamps President? Obama the Magic Negro? Shit like this still happens here. If you would actually give serious thought to what black people tell you, maybe you wouldn't be making ignorant claims suggesting that just because Obama gets elected racism is a relic of the past. And realize your white privilege is the only reason you can even approach racism in such a careless manner, because you don't know what racism even is firsthand.

I pretend because I am white? That's ignorance. I value the rest though. Good argument, though I still think that there are flaws in your argument, in regards to music and film. I don't think that black people are forced into making R&B or Hip-hop. Did it ever occur to you that the individual making this music may want to make this music as they thoroughly enjoy it and it's a large part of their culture?

I would also like to add (to Miching too); that neither of you know me, where I come from or the society I grew up in. So please do not write essays about the kind of person that I am and evaluate my very being. My argument is that people are equal and you are trying to distort it into something horrid. You are trying to punish me for this belief? I believe you are the fucked up ones.

RVD
May 17th, 2012, 09:51 PM
well compare that to the number of black tennis champions, surely if 13% of usa is black there would have to be more championsO...M...G...!

[Bites tongue...walks away shaking head]

Slutiana
May 17th, 2012, 09:58 PM
Again, Barack Obama. You think that ONLY white people can be racist? You are wrong, Tutu. What I see is, black people using previous racial discrimination against them as a shroud for the projection of their own racism. You just proved that by suggesting my ignorance is because of my race.
RE: your rep, I didn't ever say that you haven't been discriminated against because of your sexuality. But you saying that reverse racism exists is as stupid as me saying that there are such thing as heterophobics.

And nothing I said was below-belt. I was actually being nice to you because I generally like you, but everything in your post screamed out white privilege. Google it. For one, because you're completely oblivious to the fact that white people still hold complete institutional power over others. One man, who as dybukk says, has to field off racism from all sides of the political spectrum on a daily basis, doesn't change any of that. And second, because you seem to think that racism is something that was dealt with decades ago.

miffedmax
May 17th, 2012, 10:00 PM
I don't believe that. :lol: Where are these numbers?

No, the stats show for the first time more "minority" babies were born in the US than "white" (whatever those terms mean). Interestingly, though, the same demographics are now steadily moving the day when minorities will be a majority back as growth rates for Asians, blacks and Hispanics are actually slowing, and there's a big crop of white "echo" kids about to enter their childbearing years.

RVD
May 17th, 2012, 10:00 PM
Samuel Lee Jackson can be up there with them too but yeah they are very few.True that Samuel L Jackson is arguably one of the best (currently sought after) Black actors today, however, even he plays purely supportive roles.

I think the bottom line has already been stated in that America is a majority "White" country that prefer majority White representatives. That is why Maria is so sought after by the media and retailers.

I'm sure that Serena recognizes the bias that exists which may likely define why she is so involved in the actual developmental process of all her own products. Even to the extent that she takes classes to learn of the trade prior to publication of those products.

It's all good though, because at the end of the day, everyone is making their money and getting paid. Plus, we all know that America isn't about Equality, and never will be.
Forbes lists will always be dominated by Whites for obvious (historical) reasons.
But hey, it is what it is. :shrug:

ampers&
May 17th, 2012, 10:05 PM
I would also like to add (to Miching too); that neither of you know me, where I come from or the society I grew up in. So please do not write essays about the kind of person that I am and evaluate my very being. My argument is that people are equal and you are trying to distort it into something horrid. You are trying to punish me for this belief? I believe you are the fucked up ones.
Your argument is incredibly flawed. The issue is you seem indifferent to that fact. Don't try to play the victim. :lol: You do this ALL the time with the passive aggressive, willfully ignorant, white privileged tinged posts. I've read your posts for years now, remember? If you truly don't think you're who we have described, then maybe you should stop acting that way. Because you definitely come across as a privileged, ignorant, racist, hipster douche bag. And I somehow find it hard to believe that you don't behave that way in real life too. :o

miffedmax
May 17th, 2012, 10:06 PM
True that Samuel L Jackson is arguably one of the best (currently sought after) Black actors today, however, even he plays purely supportive roles.

I think the bottom line has already been stated in that America is a majority "White" country that prefer majority White representatives. That is why Maria is so sought after by the media and retailers.

I'm sure that Serena recognizes the difference which is why she is so involved in actually involved in the developmental process of all her own products. Even to the extent that she takes classes to learn of the trade prior to publication of products.
It's all good though, because at the end of the day, everyone is making their money and getting paid. and we all know that America isn't about Equality, and never will be.
Forbes lists will always be dominated by Whites for obvious (historical) reasons.
But hey, it is what it is. :shrug:

I agree up to a point, but I also think to a certain extent the Williams sisters do cannibalize endorsement opportunities from each other.

As I recall, they both usually rate pretty high on this list, and I suspect in a "one-Williams" world the only sister would get more endorsements (all other things being equal).

Does that mean blonde, pretty Masha still wouldn't make more? I'm inclined to think she still would. But the gap would be smaller.

In the end, though, they are all three young, beautiful, talented and far richer than I'll ever be. So I think there are other examples of injustice that are probably more worth my time and worry.

RVD
May 17th, 2012, 10:09 PM
Tiger woods tops the list:rolleyes: so what are you talking about?:lol:
Tiger Woods has stated on far too many of occasions that he isn't Black.
Also, he subscribes to White conformity. His wife and all of his past girlfriends were White.
I'm not questioning his choices, mind you, but let's place all of this in it's proper perspectives.
Tiger is your typical Black house-puppy, and his 'handlers' LOVE it. So yeah, of course he'll make this list in a big way.

RVD
May 17th, 2012, 10:16 PM
I agree up to a point, but I also think to a certain extent the Williams sisters do cannibalize endorsement opportunities from each other.

As I recall, they both usually rate pretty high on this list, and I suspect in a "one-Williams" world the only sister would get more endorsements (all other things being equal).

Does that mean blonde, pretty Masha still wouldn't make more? I'm inclined to think she still would. But the gap would be smaller.

In the end, though, they are all three young, beautiful, talented and far richer than I'll ever be. So I think there are other examples of injustice that are probably more worth my time and worry.I tend to believe the opposite in that because they are sisters, they also acquire a few endorsements. Still, no where near enough to be mentioned on a FORBES list, though.
But then another question arises in that, why would being sisters enrage so many in America when these ladies have so much universal appeal, and are so very enterprising in their endeavors?
That is a question easily answered if one were to visit FOXSPORTS.COM after an article appears about either lady.

NashaMasha
May 17th, 2012, 10:16 PM
but department stores are overwhelmed by Naomi Campbell Ads

what's funny in it? Naomi is "selling" goods for different brands better than russian Vodianova even in Russia ,

Just a second.... Where are chineese fans? They should also tell that if Li Na was white she would have more covers than Ana Ivanovic or Ana Kournikova? Yes?

miffedmax
May 17th, 2012, 10:19 PM
I tend to believe the opposite in that because they are sisters, they also acquire a few endorsements. Still, no where near enough to be mentioned on a FORBES list, though.
But then another question arises in that, why would being sisters enrage so many in America when these ladies have so much universal appeal, and are so very enterprising in their endeavors?
That is a question easily answered if one were to visit FOXSPORTS.COM after an article appears about either lady.

Or Yahoo. Which is why I may disagree on the one point, but not the other.

RVD
May 17th, 2012, 10:32 PM
Or Yahoo. Which is why I may disagree on the one point, but not the other.Yeah, I stay entire away from YAHOO. It's not good for my stress level.

Sp!ffy
May 17th, 2012, 10:47 PM
Serena can NEVER be Maria. NEVER :haha::haha::haha:

LadyB
May 17th, 2012, 10:56 PM
what's funny in it? Naomi is "selling" goods for different brands better than russian Vodianova even in Russia ,

Just a second.... Where are chineese fans? They should also tell that if Li Na was white she would have more covers than Ana Ivanovic or Ana Kournikova? Yes?
Just stop Li Na is not on the same level as those two. Useless to bring her up.

Serena can NEVER be Maria. NEVER :haha::haha::haha:

Neither is she trying to be :confused:

Stamp Paid
May 17th, 2012, 11:31 PM
Serena can NEVER be Maria. NEVER :haha::haha::haha:God, I hope not. I would stop liking her immediately if that was even a remote goal of hers. :lol:

Dodoboy.
May 17th, 2012, 11:32 PM
Some people here, wow.

It's not even about racism. The majority of people who have the power (wealth) in this world are white, no other way to explain that. These are the people who therefore DEMAND the majority of goods and services in the global market. If you're on a marketing team thinking how do I sell my goods around the world, who will be the face of my company in London, Tokyo, Moscow, Miami, New York, etc. A white blonde girl is an EASY pick. This doesn't need to be explained. Open your magazines, turn on your TV.

Sp!ffy
May 18th, 2012, 01:56 AM
God, I hope not. I would stop liking her immediately if that was even a remote goal of hers. :lol:

oh god forbid you associate yourself with a white girl :speakles:

Stamp Paid
May 18th, 2012, 02:16 AM
oh god forbid you associate yourself with a white girl :speakles:I know, right! :lol: [/sarcasm]

Nicolás89
May 18th, 2012, 02:27 AM
This thread.

http://i26.tinypic.com/2ikz91w.jpg

Trickle
May 18th, 2012, 02:37 AM
That list is atrocious. It is the epitome of quantity over quality. Yeesh.

hotandspicey
May 18th, 2012, 02:58 AM
Serena can NEVER be Maria. NEVER :haha::haha::haha:

But Maria will ALWAYS be Serena's bit@h!! ALWAYS. :haha: :haha: :haha:

thegreendestiny
May 18th, 2012, 03:30 AM
Every year, this kind of thread comes up and Serena and Maria fangirls never fail to come up with lame posts. :rolleyes:

Hurley
May 18th, 2012, 03:31 AM
Serena can NEVER be Maria. NEVER :haha::haha::haha:

It's true. It's too late for Serena to have 10+ Slams taken away.

Meanwhile, THIS THREAD :crying2: So many trolls and fake new posters, I love it. :hysteric:

Rocketta
May 18th, 2012, 05:00 AM
This thread! :lol:

Anyway, one look at the Top 400 richest people in the US list and you know why things are the way they are in the US. :shrug:

acetoace
May 18th, 2012, 05:18 AM
You think Maria Sharapova gets more endorsements because she's white? :lol:. Why do Serena fans have to turn everything into a race issue? This list is based on cold hard $$$

Pova certainly isn't getting endorsement based on results on the tennis court and that's a fact. If u think otherwise, show us the hardwares.

ziros
May 18th, 2012, 06:34 AM
Pova certainly isn't getting endorsement based on results on the tennis court and that's a fact. If u think otherwise, show us the hardwares.
3 grand slams,1 WTA Championship,25 titles - she's one of the 30 or so greatest female players ever out of the thousands of pro tennis players there's been,that's enough isn't it?

LadyB
May 18th, 2012, 08:42 AM
3 grand slams,1 WTA Championship,25 titles - she's one of the 30 or so greatest female players ever out of the thousands of pro tennis players there's been,that's enough isn't it?

Recent receipts bro

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m2ddg4IwXc1r73hef.gif

Sgt.Timmykinz
May 18th, 2012, 10:58 AM
because it is

honestly if sharapova was black she wouldn't be as an attractive endorser as she is now especially since not all countries are not as "progressive" (and i say that loosely) as the United States - global endorsers need to be acceptable to global consumers and black people just do not have that universal acceptance that white ppl have

idk why sharapova fans are fighting it. I LOVE sharapova, i grew up watching serena playing tennis and then sharapova and i like those generations but i accept that she is a privileged person. EMBRACE THE PRIVILEGE. accept it because it's there... honestly,why even fight it. sharapova is making a shitload of money and to deny that a huge part of that is because she's white,blond and attractive is stupid and delusional

The US progressive, please spare me! That's the funniest part of this mess of a thread! :haha:

ElusiveChanteuse
May 19th, 2012, 04:13 AM
Rank Name Pay Money Rank TV/Radio Rank Press Rank Web Rank Social Rank
31 Roger Federer $52 M 30 41 2 68 28
47 Rafael Nadal $33 M 58 14 3 54 25
71 Maria Sharapova $26 M 67 59 20 76 33
77 Serena Williams $13 M 90 40 19 63 47
87 Li Na $18 M 77 74 37 94 87
Despite Rena ranked lower overall than Maria, she's pretty well liked by the press/media and more searched on internet than Maria.:oh:

Cleffa
May 19th, 2012, 05:28 PM
Either this list is inconsistent or that both the ATP and WTA ranking number 1 do not represent the most powerful celebrities of tennis. Cause both Djokovic and Azarenka are not in the list and they are the current world number 1s lol. Then I guess that means being number 1 isn't that big of a deal after all?