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everythingtaboo
Mar 3rd, 2012, 07:05 AM
March 7-18.
Website: http://www.bnpparibasopen.com/

Auf geht's Sabine! Fingers crossed for an easy draw.

Anyone heard if she'll be playing doubles? I heard rumours about a team up with Goerges. :shrug:

Lisickinator
Mar 4th, 2012, 09:59 PM
Anyone heard if she'll be playing doubles? I heard rumours about a team up with Goerges. :shrug:
rumors confirmed :hearts:

juliagoerges: @fplustplusk spiele mit @sabinelisicki doppel in indian wells

Jimmie48
Mar 4th, 2012, 10:34 PM
Cool! :)

Rovegun
Mar 4th, 2012, 11:18 PM
now I feel sorry for opponents on the other side of the net they will be given so many powerful forehands :D

hankmoody
Mar 5th, 2012, 01:48 AM
rumors confirmed :hearts:

Awesome! Time for some olympia training.:D
Would be interesting to see what will happen, if Petko gets in form `till then.:)

Btw... from what I have seen on twitter, Sabine is in already in IW, training and feeling quite well. Let`s hope for the best!

maturedgirl
Mar 5th, 2012, 05:54 AM
rumors confirmed :hearts:




Quote:
juliagoerges: @fplustplusk spiele mit @sabinelisicki doppel in indian wells

Yeahh! :hearts:

everythingtaboo
Mar 5th, 2012, 09:10 AM
rumors confirmed :hearts:

:bounce: :bigclap: :cheer:

I'm so sad I'm not going to be at IW though. :sad:

selesia
Mar 5th, 2012, 12:18 PM
It is better to check all possibilities before Olympics. We will see which German duo works more :D

Both ladies play well with experienced partners, interesting how they cope together.

Ziva
Mar 5th, 2012, 06:37 PM
I look forward to finally see them play together:hearts:, but Petko will most definately be at the olympics, so Julia will play with her there not with Sabine.
Sabine should better play doubles with Kerber regarding the olympics.

Steff_forever
Mar 5th, 2012, 07:29 PM
:worship:

at least it's with a FedCup member...
;)

Lisickinator
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:39 PM
3rd round opponent could be Kirilenko, 4th round vs Stosur and QF vs Sharapova.

Mojobackhand
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:40 PM
IW draw so far:

4th round Stosur
QF Sharapova

Uh oh.

(Tough for me, I honestly think Sabine has a better chance against Maria when she plays like she did at the AO than Stosur.... but grrrrrrrr, I want Stosur to go far and become No. 4. This sucks. Well, let's see if they get to the 4th round in the first place... :lol:)

Mojobackhand
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:41 PM
Oh, Makiri.... dear lord. That's a really tough draw.

hankmoody
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:44 PM
Can one watch the live draw somewhere?

Mojobackhand
Mar 5th, 2012, 11:49 PM
I'm following on twitter... dunno if you can watch it.

mk27
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:08 AM
Her draw section

Stosur v Bye
Falconi v Dulgheru
Davis v Martic
Bye v Petrova

Kirilenko v Bye
Begu v Hradecka
Martinez Sanchez v Dominguez Lino
Bye v Lisicki

Mojobackhand
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:09 AM
http://www.wtatennis.com/SEWTATour-Archive/posting/2012/609/MDS.pdf

hankmoody
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:32 AM
Her draw section

Stosur v Bye
Falconi v Dulgheru
Davis v Martic
Bye v Petrova

Kirilenko v Bye
Begu v Hradecka
Martinez Sanchez v Dominguez Lino
Bye v Lisicki

Phew, finally a draw that looks kinda managable in the first few rounds.:) Kirilenko in the third is definetaly a beatable opponent!
And possibly Stosur in the fourth... could be worse!

Mojobackhand
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:53 AM
Stsour is pretty much on fire right now.... Doha final. And she has a nice incentive with the No. 4 spot waiting if she has a good run. Would like to see a Stosicki clash tbh. :) It's the best result I can get (as a fangurl) and don't have a fave about the outcome. as long as the winner beats Masha I'm happy

STOSICKI FTW.

hankmoody
Mar 6th, 2012, 01:04 AM
Stsour is pretty much on fire right now.... Doha final. And she has a nice incentive with the No. 4 spot waiting if she has a good run. Would like to see a Stosicki clash tbh. :) It's the best result I can get (as a fangurl) and don't have a fave about the outcome. as long as the winner beats Masha I'm happy

STOSICKI FTW.

The draw could hardly be any better for you, eh?:lol:;) Go Stosicki:D

everythingtaboo
Mar 6th, 2012, 06:03 AM
I look forward to finally see them play together:hearts:, but Petko will most definately be at the olympics, so Julia will play with her there not with Sabine.
Sabine should better play doubles with Kerber regarding the olympics.

Does Sabine even want to play doubles? I haven't heard her mention anything about it. Just singles.

Specter
Mar 6th, 2012, 08:51 AM
I find this draw impossible to predict, something I'm starting to get used to. She could either truck her way easily to a meeting with Sam, or she could gloriously fail against one of the Spanish dudes ladies. I'll leave the predicting to the folks with functioning crystal balls.

Does Sabine even want to play doubles? I haven't heard her mention anything about it. Just singles.

I'm a bit partial to the OG doubs event. I don't think there is much to be won for a team with Sabs and Angie/Jule/Petko, right from the start. And if she does get far in singles and doubs, that's a lot of tennis for a very short period of time.

Mojobackhand
Mar 6th, 2012, 11:15 AM
The draw could hardly be any better for you, eh?:lol:;) Go Stosicki:D

You know, I'd have preferred them in different halfs. But if they have to meet in the 4th round so be it. Should be interesting. IF they get there. Stosur has probably Petrova in the 2nd or 3rd, I think. Then Sabine or Kirilenko. And Shazza is waiting around the corner... I don't know what to think of the draw. Don't think it is an easy draw tbh.
If Sabine is on fire she will go to the QF. If not.... :rolleyes:
I go with Specter and refrain from predictions.

Just lean back and enjoy the Boom Boom show... as long as it's on. ;)

Rovegun
Mar 6th, 2012, 11:35 AM
Does Sabine even want to play doubles? I haven't heard her mention anything about it. Just singles.

I think she will let us know until doubles draw is out :D we know sheīs going to play with Jule but she wants to give us all information in pieces :D

maturedgirl
Mar 6th, 2012, 12:06 PM
The draw could hardly be any better for you, eh?:lol:;) Go Stosicki:D

If there weren't Kiri & Sha'pova in :devil:

Michael!
Mar 6th, 2012, 03:39 PM
First of all, I donīt understand why some think that Sabine was unlucky with her draws this year. :lol:
I mean, her draws were decent, Vögele in 1st round of Melbourne, then sucky Peer. In Doha she faced tired and slightly injured Kerber and in Dubai she replaced Kvitova and got a BYE before facing Benesova in 2nd round...not that unlucky in general :lol:

Her draw in Indian Wells is OK as well.
I mean, Sabine often needs a match to get into some rhythm and Martinez Sanchez ( who whould win her first round match IMO) is a good opponent for a first round. Sabine already won against her and she is not that impressive lately anyway. But sure, u never know with Sabine, especially when she is still not at 100%.
Sabine on a bad day can lose to anyone just as she usually beats herself then.
So I actually just expect her to win her first round match somehow and then it just depends on her form, Kirilenko isnīt anything special but will take advantage of it for sure when Sabine makes too many UEs or when she gets tired to early.

Weīll see, draw isnīt that bad, she could easily reach QF here as well but I donīt think about that yet, especially as she often had disappointing results here in IW (losing to Arn,Vesnina,Cirstea :lol:)

everythingtaboo
Mar 6th, 2012, 05:04 PM
MJMS is beatable. She's still rusty after being back from injury. As long as Sabine shows up, brings it and doesn't choke this should be a routine match for her. I empathize the word should, however. :rolleyes:

Mike81
Mar 7th, 2012, 08:28 AM
A possible Sabine match against Kiri? would definately enjoy that :oh:

Mojobackhand
Mar 7th, 2012, 11:46 PM
qgh-6ulXbuA

Apparently she was practicing with Elena Baltacha.

Lisickifan84
Mar 8th, 2012, 12:09 AM
Thank you, that answers my question from the video thread :D

Mojobackhand
Mar 8th, 2012, 12:55 AM
Görges/Lisicki dubs. But I'm not watching livescore at 2am. Sorry, IW.
But having no streams is just ridiculous.

jasonwright25
Mar 8th, 2012, 02:27 AM
Goerges/Lisicki win 6-2 6-7 10-7

Mike81
Mar 8th, 2012, 02:42 AM
First win for Gorgeousicki

everythingtaboo
Mar 8th, 2012, 05:56 AM
Goerges/Lisicki win 6-2 6-7 10-7

GOAT team. :worship:

flyingmachine
Mar 8th, 2012, 11:17 AM
Well Done :worship:

hellas719
Mar 9th, 2012, 05:30 AM
Doubles :)

Qalahari
Mar 9th, 2012, 10:37 AM
:bounce:

Michael!
Mar 9th, 2012, 10:37 AM
Martinez Sanchez lost to Dominguez :spit:
well, thatīs a must win for Sabine now obviously, even on a bad day :tape:

Mike81
Mar 9th, 2012, 11:05 AM
playing the no 110 in the world? surely Sabine can't find a way to lose that.

Ian Aberdon
Mar 9th, 2012, 06:53 PM
I damn well hope not...:unsure:

Ian Aberdon
Mar 9th, 2012, 06:54 PM
LOL! Mike, so you've snared a reply from Sori! :lol:

Mike81
Mar 9th, 2012, 07:09 PM
LOL! Mike, so you've snared a reply from Sori! :lol:

That's true :) although don't want to talk about that in Bine's forum.

So Bine in 2? I have no real clue of her opponent. I hope Bine can get a confidence boosting win.

everythingtaboo
Mar 10th, 2012, 08:11 AM
playing the no 110 in the world? surely Sabine can't find a way to lose that.

Umm... :tape:

everythingtaboo
Mar 10th, 2012, 08:15 AM
I've never seen Dominguez play so no idea what to expect from her. But considering her ranking, if Sabine somehow manages to lose to her then that'll be a really bad loss.

But back to optimism: Auf geht's, Sabine! Time to build up some much needed points and crack the big ten. :kiss:

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 10:22 AM
cracking the Top Ten seems outta range for now to be honest.
she has to win today for sure, next round vs Kiri everything could happen.

Lisickifan84
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:17 AM
cracking the Top Ten seems outta range for now to be honest.
she has to win today for sure, next round vs Kiri everything could happen.

Why seems that outta range?
If she is healthy, I have no concerns for that match today or for a possible match vs. Kiri :)

everythingtaboo
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:56 AM
cracking the Top Ten seems outta range for now to be honest.
she has to win today for sure, next round vs Kiri everything could happen.

I don't see how it's "outta range." She has a lot of tournaments with barely nothing to defend (eg. IW, clay courts) so plenty of opportunities. But if she plays like she has the past month you are right, top 10 probably won't happen for a while. I'm eagerly awaiting seeing her reach her peak.

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:59 AM
itīs maybe in range to get into Top Ten for a very short moment if she can sum up some good results at the next tournaments (her form doesnīt look good enough for that ATM) and when summer comes she has lots of points to defend, not much to gain.

I am a bit pessimistic when it comes to Sabine lately, she just isn't playing good enough this season so far.

But Bine is always able to surprise, i hope for that of course.

Lisickifan84
Mar 10th, 2012, 12:10 PM
I am a bit pessimistic when it comes to Sabine lately, she just isn't playing good enough this season so far.


Is that surprising? Every 2 days she has something that prevents her to win matches. Abdominal muscle strain here, flu there. It's a miracle that she has won so many points this season so far. Hopefully she will be healthy now for the rest of the season. (I know, it's just a wish...)

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 12:25 PM
Is that surprising? Every 2 days she has something that prevents her to win matches. Abdominal muscle strain here, flu there. It's a miracle that she has won so many points this season so far. Hopefully she will be healthy now for the rest of the season. (I know, it's just a wish...)

i hope she is at least Ok for IW and Miami, she's struggling with her health more than ever this year.:sad:

everythingtaboo
Mar 10th, 2012, 12:27 PM
Is that surprising? Every 2 days she has something that prevents her to win matches. Abdominal muscle strain here, flu there. It's a miracle that she has won so many points this season so far. Hopefully she will be healthy now for the rest of the season. (I know, it's just a wish...)

I'm trying to stay optimistic that the doctor's in Germany were able to sort out her current health issues. Because, if she has another bad loss with another sickness/injury related excuse I feel we'll be having the "she need's a real coach" conversation all over again. :tape:

everythingtaboo
Mar 10th, 2012, 12:30 PM
i hope she is at least Ok for IW and Miami, she's struggling with her health more than ever this year.:sad:

It's weird all these injuries and health scares are happening around the same time and more frequent than ever. She never used to be this "fragile." But I guess she's playing more tennis than she ever has with her ranking, FC responsibilities etc. But she's a professional athlete-- her body should be able to handle most things thrown at it.

It's been a sucky year for my faves getting injured. One minute it's Kim, then Sabine, then Bepa and then Petra. :sad:

Ian Aberdon
Mar 10th, 2012, 12:37 PM
I'm trying to stay optimistic that the doctor's in Germany were able to sort out her current health issues. Because, if she has another bad loss with another sickness/injury related excuse I feel we'll be having the "she need's a real coach" conversation all over again. :tape:
I'm saying nothing. :tape:

Sabinator.
Mar 10th, 2012, 01:15 PM
Good luck today Bine :cheer: vs Dominguez Lino in singles and vs Hlavackova/Hradecka (in the same, Court 8) in doubles :)

Geekking
Mar 10th, 2012, 03:01 PM
My expectations are high from Sabine in this tournament. Nice draw, healthy Sabine...
I want to watch her real game with big serves without ues. Lino is a good test to show this. She has to defeat her in straight sets/games.

Good Luck My All Time #1 ! You can do it Sabine! :cheer:

Sabinator.
Mar 10th, 2012, 03:15 PM
My expectations are high from Sabine in this tournament. Nice draw, healthy Sabine...
I want to watch her real game with big serves without ues. Lino is a good test to show this. She has to defeat her in straight sets/games.

Good Luck My All Time #1 ! You can do it Sabine! :cheer:

Unfortunately, we don't know this. She likes keeping her health condition in a secret, we learn everything only after a severe defeat (Radwanska in Dubai and other in the past). You never know with her :shrug:

But I hope it'll be fine :)

Rovegun
Mar 10th, 2012, 06:30 PM
good luck against Dominguez Lino.. Sabine should win...

maturedgirl
Mar 10th, 2012, 07:09 PM
Here we go! Sabine to serve :rocker:

mk27
Mar 10th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Pathetic performance :facepalm:

Jimmie48
Mar 10th, 2012, 08:56 PM
Well, maybe she really still isn't healthy...

jasonwright25
Mar 10th, 2012, 08:58 PM
Well, maybe she really still isn't healthy...

Just an excuse. If she wasn't healthy she wouldn't be there or at least wouldn't be playing doubles too. She needs to find some mental toughness.

Michael!
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:01 PM
:haha:
losing to Dominguez? on hard? against a player without weapons at all? :weirdo:

Before some poster try to find excuses again!
Sabine had tests before and she still played IW, so doctors obviously gave her the OK to play => means it canīt be that serious anymore + she played doubles before.
And it was Dominguez, I mean, you just have to beat such a player, even with fever or whatever, seriously, awful :o

But typical Sabine again, in first set wasted tons of GPs before sheīs getting broken, herself she canīt take any of her BPs, same picture in 2nd set where she played at least a bit better (seems so at least ) but then of course, she gets broken when she has the pressure to stay in the match at *45, not surprising at all.

I really donīt know what happened to her, I mean, she is in average shape anyway already since NY last year, often some little problems with injuries etc but that canīt be the reason for such a defeat, it is just Sabine.
A top player is able to win the matches even on a bad day but Sabine just sucks badly whenever she plays bad, no mental strength, not able to change her game a bit, just brainless ballbashing at itīs best, I am really happy that I didnīt see that :o

But well, as I said, she never played well in IW anyway but losing to LDL beats it all, seriously!

Lisickifan84
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:10 PM
...

Yes very embarrising :(

But @ AO she didn't play well and she was able to win matches, why not today?

You are right, she was tested. If there is something wrong she shouldn't play, but she did and so I think the test was fine :shrug:

Mojobackhand
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:15 PM
The thing is: we didn't see anything. We only have the stats:
https://p.twimg.com/Anp1lKHCIAAbbHM.jpg

She couldn't convert her BP, and she got easily broken. If you don't play well on the big points that's most certainly the head talking. I believe there's a lot of pressure on her. Not only is she very close to the Top 10 where she wants to be, she also has nothing to defend right now. My guess is she is trying too hard, she knows she has a huge chance right now (Feb-April), if she does fine to climb in the ranking. Yep, that can cripple you if you know what's at stake and where you COULD BE, if you played well. I believe, she is thinking ahead too much. Plus, she has all these horrible losses in the last month (due to illness mostly but still: loss is loss) and it's not exactly pushing her confidence. So, that'd be another reason for her to get really tight.

She needs some easy wins IMO. Maybe she can play a small tournament (don't have the schedule in my head... so don't know if that is possible) and win some easy matches.

Lisickifan84
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:19 PM
You think it's the pressure now, but what she should do @ Wimbledon? There she will have a lot more pressure, that's why she have to earn points NOW :sad:

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:19 PM
like i said earlier today, Top Ten is outta range, now almost impossible, i saw that loss comming.

The whole season can become a massive disaster, to hold Top 25 at the end of the season will be very very hard, if the form doesnt rise like crazy soon, today she reached her lowest point.

No Gajdosova downfall please !!!

Mojobackhand
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:26 PM
You think it's the pressure now, but what she should do @ Wimbledon? There she will have a lot more pressure, that's why she have to earn points NOW :sad:

I know. What I'm trying to say is that she knows it, too! That's the problem! :rolleyes: It's not like last year when she had "nothing to lose". She can lose big time and she knows it.

Jimmie48
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:29 PM
Well, she just tweeted..so at least that discussion is over :)

Mojobackhand
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:30 PM
No excuses:

@sabinelisicki

I gave myself many chances in todays match but didn't take them. Instead I made to many mistakes.

Lisickifan84
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:33 PM
like i said earlier today, Top Ten is outta range, now almost impossible, i saw that loss comming.

The whole season can become a massive disaster, to hold Top 25 at the end of the season will be very very hard, if the form doesnt rise like crazy soon, today she reached her lowest point.

No Gajdosova downfall please !!!

yeah yeah you pessimist :fiery:
sorry ;)

Cool down and think again. She will win again. But on the other side before IW we said, that she has to play against a winnable opponent in the first round to get her confidence back and now she loses vs. number 1xx. :(:(

I know. What I'm trying to say is that she knows it, too! That's the problem! :rolleyes: It's not like last year when she had "nothing to lose". She can lose big time and she knows it.

Yeah it seems so. At the moment she is just player number 5 in germany. She has to go through and get little by little her strength back. Hmm...

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:33 PM
The thing is: we didn't see anything. We
She couldn't convert her BP, and she got easily broken. If you don't play well on the big points that's most certainly the head talking. I believe there's a lot of pressure on her. Not only is she very close to the Top 10 where she wants to be, she also has nothing to defend right now. My guess is she is trying too hard, she knows she has a huge chance right now (Feb-April), if she does fine to climb in the ranking. Yep, that can cripple you if you know what's at stake and where you COULD BE, if you played well. I believe, she is thinking ahead too much. Plus, she has all these horrible losses in the last month (due to illness mostly but still: loss is loss) and it's not exactly pushing her confidence. So, that'd be another reason for her to get really tight.

She needs some easy wins IMO. Maybe she can play a small tournament (don't have the schedule in my head... so don't know if that is possible) and win some easy matches.

the not converted break points were key to her loss today, that problem isnt new, since the very first match of the season, she cant convert them, same on GP, its clearly the pressure she puts on herself.
Also she loses confidence after some UEs and makes even more in the process.

But Today there was no pressure, it was 2nd round vs someone she schould beat 6-2 6-2, even without good serving.
If she had lost to kirilenko next round i could understand that there is pressure on her to beat a good player and get lots of points.

She isnt playing Tennis since yesterday, such matches agains such low ranked players are routine and must get won easy 9/10 times.
if its all mental, even against such an opponent, she must be in a very very huge mental slump.:help:

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:35 PM
No excuses:

Good, very good, now work hard Bine.

Lisickifan84
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:37 PM
Good, very good, now work hard Bine.

I don't think she didn't work hard before IW. Maybe something else is wrong, but we don't know.

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:41 PM
I don't think she didn't work hard before IW. Maybe something else is wrong, but we don't know.


since there is no progress she and her team obviously have to change something, i dont know what they are doing in training, but i would suggest lots of match simulations now, skip the stroke, serve training, her matchplay is the main problem.

CillyUltra
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Well, she just tweeted..so at least that discussion is over :)

Sensational! :lol:

Mojobackhand
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:43 PM
But Today there was no pressure, it was 2nd round vs someone she schould beat 6-2 6-2, even without good serving.

But that's exactly where the pressure comes from. SHE SHOULD WIN. She knows it. everyone expects it. That puts pressure on a player!

I'm Stosur-experienced. She likes losing to lower ranked players when she is the favorite in a match. And she can win a Grand Slam against Serena in magnificent fashion when she is the underdog. Yes, that's the head. It's the difference between "nothing to lose" and "everything to prove".

Look at Azarenka. She admitted that the pressure of her winning streak/No. 1 ranking was too much yesterday. She almost f**ked up badly against Mona.

Ziva
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:53 PM
But that's exactly where the pressure comes from. SHE SHOULD WIN. She knows it. everyone expects it. That puts pressure on a player!

I'm Stosur-experienced. She likes losing to lower ranked players when she is the favorite in a match. And she can win a Grand Slam against Serena in magnificent fashion when she is the underdog. Yes, that's the head. It's the difference between "nothing to lose" and "everything to prove".

Look at Azarenka. She admitted that the pressure of her winning streak/No. 1 ranking was too much yesterday. She almost f**ked up badly against Mona.

Stosurs case is a bit different, she either loses first round or goes deep in a tournament, so she can afford that, Sabine just loses against any opponent atm, good or not R1 or R2.
Maybe Sam can teach her that.

About the pressure, she won vs Benesova last tournament, which she lost badly at FC, so there must have been a lot more pressure than today, but she won without getting broken once ?

its like a pressure curve, if its on a special level she gains from it, is it lower or higher, she loses all of her game.

Dorien.
Mar 10th, 2012, 09:53 PM
Ooh Sabine :hug: This is a bad lose :sad:

CillyUltra
Mar 10th, 2012, 10:14 PM
I don't think she didn't work hard before IW. Maybe something else is wrong, but we don't know.

The 4 losses after the AO are pretty easy to explain. She crumbled under the pressure of being no.1 in Fed Cup, which is a huge challenge as I pointed out in the German Fed Cup thread before the tie. With negative consequences regarding her level of play, which even Andrea felt last year, despite she had won her 4 matches. Then the infection affected her physically as well.

Rovegun
Mar 10th, 2012, 10:14 PM
everything is about the head.... thereīs no excuse for Sabine and we cannot say or defend her that the pressure is so high... thatīs a destiny of being a tennis player... you have to handle the pressure if you donīt you lose and Sabine knows that... if you want to be the best you have to know how to handle the pressure... I know I canīt compare my tennis level to her one but it works the same way I am also under the pressure if I play an opponent who I should beat and I would die to lose to him because I know heīs "lower ranked"... so being under pressure is the normal thing but you have to manage that situation if you do youīll win but sometimes there are some bad days as well when you can do everything but you still lose....

Mike81
Mar 10th, 2012, 11:41 PM
So disappointing, even more than recent losses, oh well.

Ian Aberdon
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:04 AM
Yikes. That is all.

maturedgirl
Mar 11th, 2012, 04:00 AM
what a rock bottom :eek:

:yawn: had a better time with my friends tonight than sab in usa :lol:http://smiliestation.de/smileys/Party/12.gif

hellas719
Mar 11th, 2012, 07:38 AM
Sabine :help:

everythingtaboo
Mar 11th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Just an excuse. If she wasn't healthy she wouldn't be there or at least wouldn't be playing doubles too. She needs to find some mental toughness.

Well said. Time to stop the excuses and start the really hard work.

If she's having so much trouble with pressure she should see a sport psychologist. I'm pretty sure I read Djokovic did and look at him now! :worship:

everythingtaboo
Mar 11th, 2012, 10:19 AM
like i said earlier today, Top Ten is outta range, now almost impossible, i saw that loss comming.

The whole season can become a massive disaster, to hold Top 25 at the end of the season will be very very hard, if the form doesnt rise like crazy soon, today she reached her lowest point.

No Gajdosova downfall please !!!

Let's not even go there. :rolleyes:

everythingtaboo
Mar 11th, 2012, 10:25 AM
Worst defeat of her career? Losing to someone with no weapons not even ranked in the top 100. Just... horrible. I don't even know what to say. Clearly she has the game, but when it comes to mental toughness she is as weak as they come. Something needs to be done about that, whether it's a sport psychologist or a trip to see the Wizard. She's wasting so many opportunities to make up some points to fall back on in case she can't defend her Grass points, not to mention-- with top 10 in sight. :hysteric:

Ian Aberdon
Mar 11th, 2012, 11:21 AM
Worst defeat of her career? Losing to someone with no weapons not even ranked in the top 100. Just... horrible. I don't even know what to say. Clearly she has the game, but when it comes to mental toughness she is as weak as they come. Something needs to be done about that, whether it's a sport psychologist or a trip to see the Wizard. She's wasting so many opportunities to make up some points to fall back on in case she can't defend her Grass points, not to mention-- with top 10 in sight. :hysteric:

Weeeeeeee'rrrrreeeee.............off to see The Wizard, the wonderful Wizard of Oz........join in, join in! :lol: :sobbing:

maturedgirl
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:30 PM
If she's having so much trouble with pressure she should see a sport psychologist. I'm pretty sure I read Djokovic did and look at him now! :worship:

And Görges did and Nadal has one and Bine definetely needs ONE :cool:

Ziva
Mar 11th, 2012, 12:35 PM
And Görges did and Nadal has one and Bine definetely needs ONE :cool:

she already has a mental trainer, two to be exact

Omega1
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Sabine :hug: pity, she has never played well IW. I hope that the bad phase will pass soon. :hearts:

joy division
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:44 PM
she already has a mental trainer, two to be exact

I ask myself what they are doing when you look at Sabine`s recent performances.:shrug:
Is there any result of this blood test ?

everythingtaboo
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:48 PM
she already has a mental trainer, two to be exact

When did she say that?

Lisickifan84
Mar 11th, 2012, 01:53 PM
I ask myself what they are doing when you look at Sabine`s recent performances.:shrug:
Is there any result of this blood test ?

That is a good question. I mean, she lost vs. Radwanska or Kerber or even Benesova, she didn't play her best, but yesterday was a nightmare. Maybe she thinks to much on the court? She knows that she has to earn points now because of Wimbledon?

No nothing official. Maybe we will never know?

Ziva
Mar 11th, 2012, 03:58 PM
When did she say that?

in an interview, a question to görges was like: Sabine Lisicki has two mental trainers, do you have one too ?

its somewhere in Julias interview thread.

Specter
Mar 11th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Those guys have to be fired immediately.

maturedgirl
Mar 11th, 2012, 05:56 PM
Those guys have to be fired immediately.

:yeah:

I ask myself what they are doing when you look at Sabine`s recent performances. :zzz::shrug:

rucolo
Mar 11th, 2012, 06:26 PM
Peinlich, Sabine. Sehr, sehr peinlich :o

Gegen Dominguez Lino. 1-6 4-6. Auf Hartplatz :help::help::help::help::help:

CillyUltra
Mar 12th, 2012, 01:56 PM
Quotes by Sabine in a German report:

"I've never won a big match in Indian Wells, no clue why."

"I'm looking forward to it (Miami). That's home, Florida, I can go there by car and many friends will be there."

Lisickifan84
Mar 12th, 2012, 02:24 PM
Quotes by Sabine in a German report:

"I've never won a big match in Indian Wells, no clue why."

"I'm looking forward to it (Miami). That's home, Florida, I can go there by car and many friends will be there."

Danke :)
Woher hast du dieses Zitat von ihr? Gibt es einen link?

Ziva
Mar 12th, 2012, 04:10 PM
Danke :)
Woher hast du dieses Zitat von ihr? Gibt es einen link?

http://www.ostsee-zeitung.de/sport/index_artikel_komplett.phtml?SID=67261cef3b34e02ab 484da3b2ea021b5&param=news&id=3390010

Michael!
Mar 12th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Sabineīs main problem against LDL was probably her weak return as well, I guess she made tons of cheap errors on return.
She only was able to break her once and right now LDL is down to Kirilenko 26 01 and wasnīt able to hold her service yet :lol:

Sabinator.
Mar 12th, 2012, 09:12 PM
She only was able to break her once and right now LDL is down to Kirilenko 26 01 and wasnīt able to hold her service yet :lol:

This loss becomes more painful right now :help:

Lisickifan84
Mar 13th, 2012, 12:00 AM
This loss becomes more painful right now :help:

Kirilenko won in 3 sets after 3 hours and in the final set, she had only 2 breakpoints and she won 1 of that. Dominguez Lino had 7 breakpoints and wasn't able to win 1 of that. 98:95 total points for Maria. Maybe Lino is not as bad as we thought?

hankmoody
Mar 13th, 2012, 12:56 AM
Kirilenko won in 3 sets after 3 hours and in the final set, she had only 2 breakpoints and she won 1 of that. Dominguez Lino had 7 breakpoints and wasn't able to win 1 of that. 98:95 total points for Maria. Maybe Lino is not as bad as we thought?

Well, that makes it at least a little bit less embarrassing... just a litle bit.:(

Michael!
Mar 13th, 2012, 12:59 AM
well, itīs tough to say, I mean, Dominguez isnīt for sure anything special but she is consistent and a consistent player is always dangerous for a UE matchine like Sabine probably was...and talking about Kirilenkoīs results, I mean, it is Kirlenko, itīs not like she is consistent as well or sth in her results, she has some awful defeats as well here and there :tape:

Ian Aberdon
Mar 13th, 2012, 07:51 AM
You wonder if Sabine was still trying to play through a virus. :shrug:

everythingtaboo
Mar 13th, 2012, 07:53 AM
You wonder if Sabine was still trying to play through a virus. :shrug:

Her and everyone else, it seems. :help:

maturedgirl
Mar 13th, 2012, 08:17 AM
Anyway she's looking forward to Florida, her home, so let's hope it will bring her back to health and full energy and with it a bit more consistency and the return to the winning track :angel:

flyingmachine
Mar 13th, 2012, 10:27 AM
Anyway she's looking forward to Florida, her home, so let's hope it will bring her back to health and full energy and with it a bit more consistency and the return to the winning track :angel:

I hope so especially after the IW disaster. :scared:

Sabinator.
Mar 13th, 2012, 01:28 PM
Remeber that Miami points will be her first major points to defent (3rd round). Later will only get worse :unsure:

CillyUltra
Mar 15th, 2012, 06:53 PM
she already has a mental trainer, two to be exact

She has three, according to BILD. ;)

One in Bradenton and two (presumably at the Olympic Support Center) in Berlin.

http://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/australien-open/so-blond-war-melbourne-noch-nie-22209898.bild.html

Ziva
Mar 15th, 2012, 07:59 PM
She has three, according to BILD. ;)

One in Bradenton and two (presumably at the Olympic Support Center) in Berlin.

http://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/australien-open/so-blond-war-melbourne-noch-nie-22209898.bild.html

haha so she needs to fire three instead of two then and get one that knows his job, she needs someone to travel with her, not someone to call from time to time.
at the moment its all one big mental slump.

Miami has to be the turning point or else...

Ian Aberdon
Mar 15th, 2012, 08:05 PM
haha so she needs to fire three instead of two then and get one that knows his job, she needs someone to travel with her, not someone to call from time to time.
at the moment its all one big mental slump.

Doesn't need to be "he" of course. :cool:

Ziva
Mar 15th, 2012, 08:17 PM
Doesn't need to be "he" of course. :cool:

i know, i just don't know how to formulate that in english to be honest, what would be the word for that, only thing i considered was to write his/her, how to proper formulate this in english to be not gender specific ?
had that pronlem a few times lately, enlighten me :help:

But thinking about it i prefer a guy, an authoritative one at best, a girl is to much distraction;) and to soft to get an impact on her.

Mojobackhand
Mar 15th, 2012, 08:53 PM
a girl is to much distraction;) and to soft to get an impact on her.

Ermm, not necessarily.

Lisickifan84
Mar 15th, 2012, 08:59 PM
I was a bit scared because she was in 3rd round last year in miami. How will she be able to defend round 3, I thought? But now I'm not so worried anymore because she has to win "only" one match and if that's not possible, then I don't know.


Sabre & Mojobackhand :rolleyes::rolleyes:

Mojobackhand
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Sabre & Mojobackhand :rolleyes::rolleyes:

:lol: should we go over to the infirmary? :lol:

Lisickifan84
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:04 PM
:lol: should we go over to the infirmary? :lol:

Why? Because my eyes are stuck this way --> :rolleyes:?

:lol:

Edit: Ahh I know, you mean the hopeless cases thread? :lol:

Mojobackhand
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:06 PM
Why? Because my eyes are stuck this way --> :rolleyes:?

:lol:

Edit: Ahh I know, you mean the hopeless cases thread? :lol:

Yes, I understood it like that: that we are hopeless cases... ;) And you wanted to talk us out of that.. or so? :p

Lisickifan84
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:11 PM
Yes, I understood it like that: that we are hopeless cases... ;) And you wanted to talk us out of that.. or so? :p

I don't know why Sabre came with this here. .. and why you answered ;)
So yes, you both are hopeless cases :lol:

btw, something from Sabine? Any News?

Mojobackhand
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:17 PM
I don't know why Sabre came with this here. ..
i know as much as you do

and why you answered ;)
Because I think in the end it doesn't matter who does the psycho trick as long as someone DOES!!! STAT!

So yes, you both are hopeless cases :lol:
Really? why? Because I think it shouldn't be a big deal to talk about that? It shouldn't be a big deal AT ALL! Hopefully we can agree on that. I know the world is different though.

btw, something from Sabine? Any News
nope. :(

Ian Aberdon
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:28 PM
Your psychologist could be male or female, & come from Canada or USA or Germany or Australia, as long as they are good at their job, I don't mind who or where they come from. I just want Sabs to return to form. :)

Lisickifan84
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:31 PM
Your psychologist could be male or female, & come from Canada or USA or Germany or Australia, as long as they are good at their job, I don't mind who or where they come from. I just want Sabs to return to form. :)

Yeah that would be great!
Let's hope for a good first round opponent. She can't lose anmyore, because otherwise Angie will overtake Sabine soon.

@Mojobackhand: Du hast Post ;)

Mojobackhand
Mar 15th, 2012, 09:47 PM
@Mojobackhand: Du hast Post ;)
Danke! Du auch.

hankmoody
Mar 16th, 2012, 01:32 AM
She has three, according to BILD. ;)

One in Bradenton and two (presumably at the Olympic Support Center) in Berlin.

http://www.bild.de/sport/mehr-sport/australien-open/so-blond-war-melbourne-noch-nie-22209898.bild.html

What a typically stupid BILD article once again!:facepalm:
"Melbourne has never been this blond":help::facepalm::facepalm:
How comes BILD journalists don`t kill themselfes every day? Can`t believe they get payed for BS like that!:rolleyes:
HORRIBLE!!! Apparently they have no respect for the journalist job whatsoever!

Ziva
Mar 16th, 2012, 08:14 AM
I don't know why Sabre came with this here.



Ok the smilie was a bit to much then, but you interpreted it the way you wanted, maybe i didn't meant it the way you thought ;)

And why not, just some fun, maybe it puts a smile on the face of some, instead of boring crisis talk all the time inside the Lisicki Subforum, noone gets hurt by that.


should we go over to the infirmary?


got my blanket ready since Doha :lol:


I know the world is different though


in here it's Middle Ages sometimes


btw, something from Sabine? Any News


We won't hear much until Miami, that's OK, she has other things as Twitter or FB to worry about right now.

maturedgirl
Mar 16th, 2012, 08:21 AM
in here it's Middle Ages sometimes

:happy:



We won't hear much until Miami, that's OK, she has other things as Twitter or FB to worry about right now.

:yeah:

rucolo
Mar 16th, 2012, 08:13 PM
playing the no 110 in the world? surely Sabine can't find a way to lose that.

...

Worst defeat of her career? Losing to someone with no weapons not even ranked in the top 100. Just... horrible. I don't even know what to say. Clearly she has the game, but when it comes to mental toughness she is as weak as they come. Something needs to be done about that, whether it's a sport psychologist or a trip to see the Wizard. She's wasting so many opportunities to make up some points to fall back on in case she can't defend her Grass points, not to mention-- with top 10 in sight. :hysteric:

Agree. Break Points Won: only 1 of 10 ! :o Also Sabine must work on footwork/movement :help:

Mike81
Mar 17th, 2012, 07:00 AM
Forgot about my comment, maybe I 'put the mock' on Sabine :tape: I won't make any more assumptions like that in the future.