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Talula
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:10 PM
There a nice spread on Vika in today's ST, Sports pages.

Vika explains she had stopped enjoying tennis, what her grandmother and country had been through in 2nd World War, and how her Gran helped change her mind. Apparently 90% of buildings were destroyed in the war.

Vika explains she couldn't risk her ankle by playing in Dubai and refuses to get in a cat fight with Aga. When asked about Aga losing respect for her she says she still sees themselves as friends though they have t seen or spoken to each other since the Qatar match.

The accompanying glamour shot of Vika in her bathing costume did make me giggle as its obviously touched up, but it's nice to see a large positive piece on a female tennis player. Vika is becoming quite a star!

Wiggly
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Is it written by Neil Harman? These two tweet each other all the time.

The whole "I almost quit" story seems a bit overblown. I'm sure all these players thought about it at least once.
Still, nice for Vika to get that exposure. Go get that 10% Meilen!

Talula
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:22 PM
Is it written by Neil Harman? These two tweet each other all the time.

The whole "I almost quit" story seems a bit overblown. I'm sure all these players thought about it at least once.
Still, nice for Vika to get that exposure. Go get that 10% Meilen!

It's by Barry Flatman. I've no idea who he is!

Yes, it's a nice article about Vika regaining her perspective.

VIKA?
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:28 PM
Vika showing she has a lot of more class than pushanska. :worship:

Bismarck.
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:30 PM
Barry Flatman is a complete crashing bore. If you've ever had the "pleasure" of listening to him commentate, you'll know he can make the most exciting match seem like 48 consecutive hours listening to Travis records while being locked in a dark room. :lol:

Queenpova
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:27 PM
"I almost quit" LOL. Riggggggggggggght, as if anyone would prefer having a harder job which pays 1/100 of what tennis players earn

NeKo
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Vika showing she has a lot of more class than pushanska. :worship:

Everybody has more class than Radwanksa. That's obvious.

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:43 PM
Fake.

twtennisfan2011
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:48 PM
Fake.

typical HATERS

hurricanejeanne
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:55 PM
For all its "over exposure" I quite like the Grandmarenka Epiphany Story especially seeing as it was the turning point in Vika's mentality. And it's always nice to hear about a player's family relations especially if said family isn't part of the coaching staff.
Class from her as well from abstaining to comment officially about the whole rift with Aga.

Petkorazzi
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:14 PM
I want to believe what she said isn't fake but her history of classless actions doesn't let me. :(

Rest Maria!
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:29 PM
Vika showing she has a lot of more class than pushanska. :worship:
You can't say the same about Azarenka's fanbase.

AliceMariaRenka
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:32 PM
There a nice spread on Vika in today's ST, Sports pages.

Vika explains she had stopped enjoying tennis, what her grandmother and country had been through in 2nd World War, and how her Gran helped change her mind. Apparently 90% of buildings were destroyed in the war.

Vika explains she couldn't risk her ankle by playing in Dubai and refuses to get in a cat fight with Aga. When asked about Aga losing respect for her she says she still sees themselves as friends though they have t seen or spoken to each other since the Qatar match.

The accompanying glamour shot of Vika in her bathing costume did make me giggle as its obviously touched up, but it's nice to see a large positive piece on a female tennis player. Vika is becoming quite a star!

It is a really balanced piece and it's great to have Vika getting such profile in such a newspaper.

Like you I laughed at the photo - I wasn't sure it was Vika at first! And the hair! It's definitely photoshopped. But I love her anyway!

AliceMariaRenka
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:33 PM
You can't say the same about Azarenka's fanbase.

I can assure you I am quite a class act thank you!

bobito
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:35 PM
Vika showing she has a lot of more class than pushanska. :worship:

The words "Vika", "has" and "class" do not belong in the same sentence, irrespective of who you are comparing her to.

Jane Lane
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:37 PM
For all its "over exposure" I quite like the Grandmarenka Epiphany Story especially seeing as it was the turning point in Vika's mentality. And it's always nice to hear about a player's family relations especially if said family isn't part of the coaching staff.
Class from her as well from abstaining to comment officially about the whole rift with Aga.

Me too. When she was in Vika's Tennisography I was starstruck a bit :haha:

Setsuna.
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:37 PM
The words "Vika", "has" and "class" do not belong in the same sentence, irrespective of who you are comparing her to.

:worship:

Coconut91
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:42 PM
Barry Flatman is a complete crashing bore. If you've ever had the "pleasure" of listening to him commentate, you'll know he can make the most exciting match seem like 48 consecutive hours listening to Travis records while being locked in a dark room. :lol:

Okay, then we better stay away from that guy... Thanks for the information. :lol:

SwingVolley93
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:44 PM
The words "Vika", "has" and "class" do not belong in the same sentence, irrespective of who you are comparing her to.

:lol:

tenn_ace
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:46 PM
"I almost quit" LOL. Riggggggggggggght, as if anyone would prefer having a harder job which pays 1/100 of what tennis players earn

Exactly. Couldn't have said it better...

Wonder though, what job would have she taken?

edificio
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:57 PM
There a nice spread on Vika in today's ST, Sports pages.

Vika explains she had stopped enjoying tennis, what her grandmother and country had been through in 2nd World War, and how her Gran helped change her mind. Apparently 90% of buildings were destroyed in the war.

Vika explains she couldn't risk her ankle by playing in Dubai and refuses to get in a cat fight with Aga. When asked about Aga losing respect for her she says she still sees themselves as friends though they have t seen or spoken to each other since the Qatar match.

The accompanying glamour shot of Vika in her bathing costume did make me giggle as its obviously touched up, but it's nice to see a large positive piece on a female tennis player. Vika is becoming quite a star!

Is there some reason you can't put in a link to the article? It's not that hard to do. :shrug: I would rather see the actual article than rely on the paraphrasing of TF members. Sorry. Nothing personal.

What is ST anyway? You assume people know what that is.

Jane Lane
Feb 27th, 2012, 12:01 AM
What is ST anyway? You assume people know what that is.

The Sunday Times. It's in the title. :lol:

gaja kesari
Feb 27th, 2012, 12:05 AM
Is there some reason you can't put in a link to the article? It's not that hard to do. :shrug: I would rather see the actual article than rely on the paraphrasing of TF members. Sorry. Nothing personal.

What is ST anyway? You assume people know what that is.


ST = Sunday Times

You have to pay to access the pearls of wisdom hidden in this part of Rupert Murdoch's empire :devil:

edificio
Feb 27th, 2012, 12:07 AM
ST = Sunday Times

You have to pay to access the pearls of wisdom hidden in this part of Rupert Murdoch's empire :devil:

Thanks! I had no idea. No pennies from me to Murdoch, thank you very much! :lol:

thegreendestiny
Feb 27th, 2012, 11:49 AM
Everybody has more class than Radwanksa. That's obvious.

Radwanska has always had garbage personality. She is probably the most blatantly jealous player in the top 100 right now. It was never highlighted because she was useless then. After winning a few Tier 1s, she's finally being more and more recognized for the b!tch she truly is.

With regard to Belarus, it was the road to Russia so Nazis destroyed everything in sight there during WW2.

Break My Rapture
Feb 27th, 2012, 02:41 PM
You can't say the same about Azarenka's fanbase.
Right because Polish Radwanska fans are really not the ones insulting Azarenka wherever they can. :lol: On this website and others, for example they're all over my Youtube videos like a bunch of crazed dogs are over a bone.

The ounce of class Vika showcases here is heavier than Aga's game. She's not to be defied by all these jealous and bitter inferiors. It seems like she knows they're bitter to the bone over the success she's having but luckily she doesn't seem to care. :lol:

pov
Feb 27th, 2012, 02:46 PM
ST = Sunday Times

You have to pay to access the pearls of wisdom hidden in this part of Rupert Murdoch's empire :devil:
If you have that access, you could copy and paste the article.

donniedarkofan
Feb 27th, 2012, 02:46 PM
Everybody has more class than Radwanksa. That's obvious.

Excluding you.

miffedmax
Feb 27th, 2012, 03:15 PM
Grandmarenka is to be elevated to the same Holy Pantheon as Mommies Vera, Oracene and Sneki. :worship:

Rest Maria!
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:30 PM
Right because Polish Radwanska fans are really not the ones insulting Azarenka wherever they can. :lol: On this website and others, for example they're all over my Youtube videos like a bunch of crazed dogs are over a bone.

The ounce of class Vika showcases here is heavier than Aga's game. She's not to be defied by all these jealous and bitter inferiors. It seems like she knows they're bitter to the bone over the success she's having but luckily she doesn't seem to care. :lol:

If you're claiming someone is classless, then at least have the decency of spelling correctly that person's name and not using insulting nicknames. Which is not what the clown you're defending did.

While Radwanska is supposed to being classless for openly stating her opinions about other players, I wonder how someone could claim Azarenka is classy with her oncourt behavior - threatening line umpires, screaming at ballboys and other acts she committed during AO.

And yes, I think neither Radwanska nor Azarenka particularly care what we write here about them - at least I wouldn't if I was making as much money as them.:angel:

Break My Rapture
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:38 PM
If you're claiming someone is classless, then at least have the decency of spelling correctly that person's name and not using insulting nicknames. Which is not what the clown you're defending did.

While Radwanska is supposed to being classless for openly stating her opinions about other players, I wonder how someone could claim Azarenka is classy with her oncourt behavior - threatening line umpires, screaming at ballboys and other acts she committed during AO.

And yes, I think neither Radwanska nor Azarenka particularly care what we write here about them - at least I wouldn't if I was making as much money as them.:angel:
Agatha is not an insulting nickname. But it wouldn't surprise me if you thought it was, because after all I'm not spelling her first name correctly.
And at least you should have the decency to know that those acts (of crime, it seems) are largely things from the past and never happened during this year's AO. So up yours and I hope you and the rest of your Polish Radwanska bunch will enjoy the upcoming shit storm of Vika memes with her AO trophy that Vikalanders will post if this ridiculious talk continues.

Rest Maria!
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:45 PM
Agatha is not an insulting nickname. But it wouldn't surprise me if you thought it was, because after all I'm not spelling her first name correctly.
And at least you should have the decency to know that those acts (of crime, it seems) are largely things from the past and never happened during this year's AO. So up yours and I hope you and the rest of your Polish Radwanska bunch will enjoy the upcoming shit storm of Vika memes with her AO trophy that Vikalanders will post if this ridiculious talk continues.
I didn't refer to your post, to this one:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=21021288&postcount=4

And no, those things aren't things of the past, they happened during the match against Mona Bartel @ AO when Azarenka blew her challenges and started threatening the line umpires. The whole situation was ridiculous because Azarenka was up a set and like 5-2 in the second ansd the spectators rightfully started whistling and booing at her.

Jane Lane
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:48 PM
I didn't refer to your post, to this one:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=21021288&postcount=4

And no, those things aren't things of the past, they happened during the match against Mona Bartel @ AO when Azarenka blew her challenges and started threatening the line umpires. The whole situation was ridiculous because Azarenka was up a set and like 5-2 in the second ansd the spectators rightfully started whistling and booing at her.

:haha: Threatening? Okaaaaaaay.

Break My Rapture
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:49 PM
I didn't refer to your post, to this one:
http://www.tennisforum.com/showpost.php?p=21021288&postcount=4

And no, those things aren't things of the past, they happened during the match against Mona Bartel @ AO when Azarenka blew her challenges and started threatening the line umpires. The whole situation was ridiculous because Azarenka was up a set and like 5-2 in the second ansd the spectators rightfully started whistling and booing at her.
She didn't start threatening the line judge. First of all, before you come in with claims like these, know what you're talking about. You are probably referring to the stir about Vika assumingly throwing a ball away at a lines judge after she ended the match. And second, a poster on this forum who was at the match posted that she threw the ball in a completely different direction than where the lines judge was sitting. So again, up yours. Argument henceforth disbanded, next.

miffedmax
Feb 27th, 2012, 05:00 PM
This is getting tiresome. No more name-calling.

And no, calling Radwanska "Agatha" is no worse than calling Masha "Martha" or Serena "Sarin." "Hagatha" or "Ratwanska" will probably get your post edited or deleted. TF would be bloody boring if we didn't allow any nicknames as all (and I think Agatha is actually the English equivalent of her Polish name, though someone more knowledgeable might correct me).

Rest Maria!
Feb 27th, 2012, 05:21 PM
This is getting tiresome. No more name-calling.

And no, calling Radwanska "Agatha" is no worse than calling Masha "Martha" or Serena "Sarin." "Hagatha" or "Ratwanska" will probably get your post edited or deleted. TF would be bloody boring if we didn't allow any nicknames as all (and I think Agatha is actually the English equivalent of her Polish name, though someone more knowledgeable might correct me).

:facepalm:
I wasn't referring to "Agatha", read the post I linked to. Mind I normally don't react to nicknames, insulting or otherwise, but that post seemed very ironic "my Vika is so classy but that pushanska is classless". Go figure.

Agatha is equivalent to Agata, Agnieszka is a different name.

She didn't start threatening the line judge. First of all, before you come in with claims like these, know what you're talking about. You are probably referring to the stir about Vika assumingly throwing a ball away at a lines judge after she ended the match. And second, a poster on this forum who was at the match posted that she threw the ball in a completely different direction than where the lines judge was sitting. So again, up yours. Argument henceforth disbanded, next.
I wasn't talking what happened after the match, I was talking what happened during that final game (or second to last, I don't remember) when she was screaming at the umpires whenever she disagreed with them but had no challenges remaining. I mean, maybe she was shouting "I love you", but it didn't look like it.:angel:

C. Drone
Feb 27th, 2012, 05:22 PM
The laughble part she had her fair share of oncourt acts in the past but Radwanska´tards finding her just now. :spit:
Today WTA means World Thus Azarenka. Challenge her or suck it up.

Break My Rapture
Feb 27th, 2012, 05:26 PM
I wasn't talking what happened after the match, I was talking what happened during that final game (or second to last, I don't remember) when she was screaming at the umpires whenever she disagreed with them but had no challenges remaining. I mean, maybe she was shouting "I love you", but it didn't look like it.:angel:
You're backtracking. First she was threatening, then she was screaming towards line judges, now she was screaming towards the umpire. And I think most players would've reacted similarly to a call like that on such an important moment when you have no challenges left (and the latter part is admittedly Azarenka's own fault). That was also the only time she yelled "OUT!" in the direction of the umpire during the match, no need to overreact even though it's necessary because of your dated and weak arguments.

And I'm leaving it at that.

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 05:29 PM
[QUOTE=tejmeglekvár;21026117]The laughble part she had her fair share of oncourt acts in the past but Radwanska´tards finding her just now. :spit:
Today WTA means Womens Tennis Assassinated.

Fixed.;)

C. Drone
Feb 27th, 2012, 06:05 PM
Today WTA means Womens Tennis Assassinated.

Fixed.;)

yet you´re still here.

(I mean I wrote same like you right after AO final, but cryin over my pillow for 2 days helped. So, whats your excuse?)

Jerem
Feb 27th, 2012, 06:18 PM
(and I think Agatha is actually the English equivalent of her Polish name, though someone more knowledgeable might correct me).

Agnieszka is actually the English Agnes ;)

miffedmax
Feb 27th, 2012, 06:23 PM
Agnieszka is actually the English Agnes ;)

That makes sense.

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 06:27 PM
yet you´re still here.

(I mean I wrote same like you right after AO final, but cryin over my pillow for 2 days helped. So, whats your excuse?)

Yeah, I am. I can express my opinion like others can,too. No need for excuses for my opinion. I just think that WTA has entered a rather bleak period. Hopefully it will see some Sunshine again soon :p

Nicolás89
Feb 27th, 2012, 06:28 PM
At least Aga is not afraid to speak her mind others just cowardly refuge behind PR. :oh:

Charlatan
Feb 27th, 2012, 06:51 PM
She didn't start threatening the line judge. First of all, before you come in with claims like these, know what you're talking about. You are probably referring to the stir about Vika assumingly throwing a ball away at a lines judge after she ended the match. And second, a poster on this forum who was at the match posted that she threw the ball in a completely different direction than where the lines judge was sitting. So again, up yours. Argument henceforth disbanded, next.

your avatar :worship::devil:

C. Drone
Feb 27th, 2012, 07:30 PM
Yeah, I am. I can express my opinion like others can,too. No need for excuses for my opinion. I just think that WTA has entered a rather bleak period. Hopefully it will see some Sunshine again soon :p

you can do whatever you like, although its mildly hypocrite from a Caro defender.

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:17 PM
you can do whatever you like, although its mildly hypocrite from a Caro defender.

Hypocrite? Like why? I was never a fan of Azarenka. Also,I think Caroline is a better player and has more class. Azarenka is not appealing in any way for me. Her tennis is nothing special and judging by some comments about her she seems to have quite an unsporting behaviour.

Break My Rapture
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:22 PM
Hypocrite? Like why? I was never a fan of Azarenka. Also,I think Caroline is a better player and has more class. Azarenka is not appealing in any way for me. Her tennis is nothing special and judging by some comments about her she seems to have quite an unsporting behaviour.
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2zo98o4.jpg

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:31 PM
http://oi40.tinypic.com/2zo98o4.jpg

Is that all you´ve got? Slam is also only a tournament,child.:lol: Schiavone has one too...

matty
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:34 PM
What's all this hate drama with Azarenka all of the sudden--because she won a slam before your fave or reached #1? She's plenty classy and no, she is not a brat. Move on, already.

matty
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:35 PM
Is that all you´ve got? Slam is also only a tournament,child.:lol: Schiavone has one too...

But Schiavone hasn't been #1 with a slam, so not a good comparison.

Nicolás89
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:37 PM
What's all this hate drama with Azarenka all of the sudden--because she won a slam before your fave or reached #1? She's plenty classy and no, she is not a brat. Move on, already.

Nah it is much more fun to expose her fakeness. :drool:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:40 PM
Is that all you´ve got? Slam is also only a tournament,child.:lol: Schiavone has one too...

Oh yes, we forgot that the Copenhagen tournament is so much more prestigious than a Grand Slam title.

Jane Lane
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:43 PM
Oh yes, we forgot that the Copenhagen tournament is so much more prestigious than a Grand Slam title.

You forgot about 5th Slam New Haven. :worship:

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:43 PM
But Schiavone hasn't been #1 with a slam, so not a good comparison.

I was referring to some posters who glorifies slams as it was all that tennis was about. Having a slam doesn´t mean one is by default better player than a person with no slam.

Rest Maria!
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:43 PM
(...)

And I'm leaving it at that.
Is that match uploaded somewhere? I tried youtube, but found only the first set. Specifically that final game would suffice.
Hypocrite? Like why? I was never a fan of Azarenka. Also,I think Caroline is a better player and has more class. Azarenka is not appealing in any way for me. Her tennis is nothing special and judging by some comments about her she seems to have quite an unsporting behaviour.
Azarenka's on court demeanor is often disrupting and off-putting, but there's nothing more disgusting than "Sunshine's" gamesmanship.:o

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:47 PM
You forgot about 5th Slam New Haven. :worship:

See, I almost did,thanks for a reminder. Well, New Haven final at least offered some thrill compared to a one-sided hour of tennis we were shown at AO.

tennisbum79
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:47 PM
Thanks! I had no idea. No pennies from me to Murdoch, thank you very much! :lol:
oh, this is Murdoch paper;)

Did money change hand before this article was written?
Was Aga's phone hacked?

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:52 PM
Oh yes, we forgot that the Copenhagen tournament is so much more prestigious than a Grand Slam title.

It offerred a fun tennis to watch for me compared to the AO final that I switched off after 20 minutes. You like prestige, well, I prefer quality and fun matches.

tennisbum79
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:57 PM
I hope this feud, Aga fans vs Vika fans developed in something more permanent.

New battle lines are long overdue.


Fan bases battle for Serena, Venus, WS, Maria, Caro, Kim have become stales, times for new blood.


But I am the vocabulary will not change much.
The word dellusional will still be the insult of choice for catch all response.

Let's sit back and see how this develops.
Who knows, with any luck, it could blossom some day to RS, The Radwanska Sisters vs. The World

C. Drone
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:58 PM
Hypocrite? Like why? I was never a fan of Azarenka. Also,I think Caroline is a better player and has more class. Azarenka is not appealing in any way for me. Her tennis is nothing special and judging by some comments about her she seems to have quite an unsporting behaviour.

okay, duly noted, even if bit funny.
I´ve tried to point out you are just running same useless circles like did in Caro threads, just switched sides.

Kasey
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:59 PM
No, no, no......
This can't be worse.
It's one of my brightest posts ever! Guys excuse me but I have to get this off my chest.

There's no other way that this whole mess will have a happy outcome...:crying2:
It seems as if Aga and Vika had only those BFF one night stands instead of a fully committed relationship.
Why, why Aga did you have to ruin it! For once I thought you replaced Caro as Vika's BFF yet you f****d this up.

Are there any counsellors in WTA for fallen BFFs?
Radwanska earned over 800 000$, so she better buy Snicker's Factory to reconcile....:inlove:

tennisbum79
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:59 PM
Is that all you´ve got? Slam is also only a tournament,child.:lol: Schiavone has one too...
Serena waited until the count moves to the second hand before she started lifting that one index finger

Stonerpova
Feb 27th, 2012, 10:00 PM
Vika showing she has a lot of more class than pushanska. :worship:

"Vika" and "class" in the same sentence. LOL

marineblue
Feb 27th, 2012, 10:21 PM
okay, duly noted, even if bit funny.
I´ve tried to point out you are just running same useless circles like did in Caro threads, just switched sides.


Huh? What are you talking about? Just because my opinion differs from yours I do not run in any useless circles. As far as switching sides I don´t know what you´re on about to be honest.

gaja kesari
Feb 27th, 2012, 11:09 PM
If you have that access, you could copy and paste the article.

No, I don't have 'that access' :lol:

There's no money for Murdoch in my wallet, let me assure you :tape:

tennisbum79
Feb 28th, 2012, 11:41 AM
No, I don't have 'that access' :lol:

There's no money for Murdoch in my wallet, let me assure you :tape:
If you volunteer to hack someone's phone, they'll give you access

hurricanejeanne
Feb 28th, 2012, 02:45 PM
It offerred a fun tennis to watch for me compared to the AO final that I switched off after 20 minutes. You like prestige, well, I prefer quality and fun matches.

While "fun entertaining tennis" is always a preference, one cannot control the level of play of two players. It is not Vika's fault she was playing well and Maria was not in the AO final.

And in regard to the preference of prestige, it's more appropriately stated that I'd rather my favorite player (or any player for that matter) play to the best of their ability, win or lose, on the biggest stages were it counts the most and where the entire sports world will witness it. And where it counts the most in our sport is on our most prestigious stages: The Majors. Arguing against that is ridiculous. History will not recall the little titles a player wins outside of a final tally, the ones that will be remembered are the majors. That's fact.

Break My Rapture
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:20 PM
I was referring to some posters who glorifies slams as it was all that tennis was about. Having a slam doesn´t mean one is by default better player than a person with no slam.
As previously stated by the good post above here: Grand Slams are still the pinnacle of this sport. There's NO denying it.

mac47
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:23 PM
Vika's grandmother is right up there with Ana's practice in an abandoned swimming pool.

Wiggly
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:49 PM
Vika's grandmother is right up there with Ana's practice in an abandoned swimming pool.

This. :lol:
Can't believe the media is falling for it.

Sharapova had a very, very serious injury and never complained in the media.
You lose a few matches and you go cry to your grandma? Please!

LUVMIRZA
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:19 PM
This. :lol:
Can't believe the media is falling for it.

Sharapova had a very, very serious injury and never complained in the media.
You lose a few matches and you go cry to your grandma? Please!

Sharapova had an early breakthrough. But its not the case with Vika. She was recognized and expected to win grandslams early in her career. Her expectations are also high. But the break through didnt happen for a long time.

In 2011 she had bad losses early in the year...she was losing confidence. If you've been watching her matches and her career for a long time, you'll know how much she expects from herself...she tries to be a perfectionist. So its normal that she kinda lost hope when she did not win a GrandSlam for a long time, her losses to LiNa/Pennetta/Dani in 2011 hurt her very much and thats wen she thought of quitting.

Break My Rapture
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:21 PM
Talking to your grandparent(s) is a pretty common thing I would think, for normal people anyway.

pov
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:32 PM
I was referring to some posters who glorifies slams as it was all that tennis was about. Having a slam doesn´t mean one is by default better player than a person with no slam.
I agree 100%. However I'm puzzled as to what you think makes Wozniacki a better player than Azarenka. And calling any of these players classless is ludicrous. Sure at times someone will say or do something wack but we all do that.

pov
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:39 PM
Sharapova had a very, very serious injury and never complained in the media.
You lose a few matches and you go cry to your grandma? Please!
??? What has complaining in the media got to do with talking to one's grammy? And BTW after coming back Sharapova did say that at times she hadn't sure she was going to make it back. And I'm not sure on this part - but if I remember correctly she also said it was the support of certain people that helped her through it.

But enough anyway. The fact is that anyone who thinks that Azarenka telling the media that she was down, thinking of quitting and that her Grandmother reminded her of how good she had it - is something fake or strange has some hearty issues.

AliceMariaRenka
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:57 PM
But enough anyway. The fact is that anyone who thinks that Azarenka telling the media that she was down, thinking of quitting and that her Grandmother reminded her of how good she had it - is something fake or strange has some hearty issues.

Well said.

Funny how some find negativity in something sweet and normal.

Charlatan
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:05 PM
marineblue is so desperate to make a hole outta a mountain

miffedmax
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:18 PM
How many of us changed majors in college or switched jobs when we were (or are) Vika's age? Just because she started a job that has made her an assload of money doesn't necessarily mean she automatically loves it. (I know lots of people my age who have lucrative jobs they can't quite because of their mortgages, their kids in college and their car payments).

I changed my college major twice. No insult to those of you who are younger on this board, and it's not true of all young adults, but long-term commitments and major life decisions is not something that all of you excel at. (I didn't. Nor do all older people, but it is something that most of us get better at as we gain life experience).

My own son had a "Come to Jesus" meeting with his grandad about his college decisions during his freshman year and made some commitments based on that. So it's not inconceivable to me that Vika is telling the truth. Or maybe it just makes good copy.

The bottom line is none of us know. If you want to slam Vika, come up with a real reason.

Nicolás89
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:28 PM
??? What has complaining in the media got to do with talking to one's grammy? And BTW after coming back Sharapova did say that at times she hadn't sure she was going to make it back. And I'm not sure on this part - but if I remember correctly she also said it was the support of certain people that helped her through it.

But enough anyway. The fact is that anyone who thinks that Azarenka telling the media that she was down, thinking of quitting and that her Grandmother reminded her of how good she had it - is something fake or strange has some hearty issues.

But really? thinking of quitting after 2 early exits? She also said she was in an "emotional mess" after those defeats, so if she's really that big of a drama queen then I'll take it but to me she's just *exaggerating* big time her story.

Also why coming up with this after a year and right after you've won a Grand Slam and the number #1 ranking? This whole story is clearly a PR strategy to gain extra attention. :lol:

Maruuusya
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:52 PM
Also why coming up with this after a year and right after you've won a Grand Slam and the number #1 ranking? This whole story is clearly a PR strategy to gain extra attention. :lol:

Wimbledon
Tuesday, 28 June 2011
Victoria Azarenka defeated Tamira Paszek 6‑3, 6‑1

What changed in March? You said you've taken a different approach since then.
VICTORIA AZARENKA: Just happy, you know, always on the court. I'm looking forward to every challenges as I take, I try to be disciplined to what I'm working hard for, and I'm just enjoying myself much more on the court.

What triggered that?
VICTORIA AZARENKA: A long talk with my grandmother. (Smiling.) Because after Doha tournament I didn't really want to play tennis. I just wanted to, you know, go home and rest. My mom asked me, Oh, what are you going to do? I said, I'm going to study. She laughed out loud.

Looks very quiet during this tournament. No nervous. No something on court, emotion. It's a new style of your play or something else?
VICTORIA AZARENKA: Well, I've been like this for a while, I think. I really worked on my mental strength, handling my bad emotions. I'm always going to be emotional, as I said. I'm really a passionate person. But I try to take the bad emotions away.

What did your grandmother say to you?
VICTORIA AZARENKA: Honestly, if I would tell you you would not be interested, because it had nothing to do with tennis.

More interesting.
VICTORIA AZARENKA: I say I don't want to do something that I'm not enjoying. Then she says, Then don't do it. You have to be happy. She was telling me those stories, how hard she was working. It was like, Well, you just have to shut up, you know, and stop complaining because you have a pretty damn good life. Just work out there.

What was she doing when she was working?
VICTORIA AZARENKA: She was actually working in kindergarten with kids. She's been doing a lot of work, having two, three jobs at one time, so...

You said your mother laughed when you told her you were going to study?
VICTORIA AZARENKA: Yes.

How come?
VICTORIA AZARENKA: She knows that I like to study, but I'm not gonna be fulfilling that for a long time. I'm just going to get bored, because tennis is what I really love. I just had to really take a step back and realize that that is true.

She could tell with your mood that you were basically just in a place where you were saying you were frustrated but a week or two you were going to go back to what you really love?
VICTORIA AZARENKA: Yes. I think she's a very wise woman. She really said, Just come back home, enjoy some time, and you decide.

:wavey:

hurricanejeanne
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:52 PM
But really? thinking of quitting after 2 early exits? She also said she was in an "emotional mess" after those defeats, so if she's really that big of a drama queen then I'll take it but to me she's just *exaggerating* big time her story.

Also why coming up with this after a year and right after you've won a Grand Slam and the number #1 ranking? This whole story is clearly a PR strategy to gain extra attention. :lol:

The discussion about her quitting started after she won Miami last year. See: http://www.sonyericssonopen.com/News/Tennis/2011/Interview-Transcripts/Interview-Transcripts/Extra-Column/2011-Victoria-Azarenka-April-2.aspx

The Grandmarenka Epiphany Story (the more detailed version of the above discussion) didn't become "big" until the summer, during Wimbledon and the US Open time last year, as I recall Mary Carillo discussing it during Vika's match against Serena as well as being discussed in many of her matches during the Australian, all prior to her winning the title.

Irregardless, why is it such a big deal that she had a period of not playing her best, started to second guess herself, and talked it out with someone she's incredibly close with? I don't understand why any 22 year old going to an older family member for life advice is such a negative "bullshit" move.

Break My Rapture
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:06 PM
Also why coming up with this after a year and right after you've won a Grand Slam and the number #1 ranking? This whole story is clearly a PR strategy to gain extra attention. :lol:
She was open and vocal about this whole "story" around IW/Miami last year if I recall correctly. So please think twice before embarrassing yourself.

Nicolás89
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:07 PM
I don't know what the above posts prove, IT IS being exploited right now she is a GS champion and the number #1 player. :lol:

Break My Rapture
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Irregardless, why is it such a big deal that she had a period of not playing her best, started to second guess herself, and talked it out with someone she's incredibly close with? I don't understand why any 22 year old going to an older family member for life advice is such a negative "bullshit" move.
It's because haterz can't find a note-worthy and valid reason to hate on her, even if their lives depended on it. But it's nothing new really.

AliceMariaRenka
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:18 PM
I don't know what the above posts prove, IT IS being exploited right now she is a GS champion and the number #1 player. :lol:

No. It was a journalist recounting her story for people who wont have known it reading a newspaper who may have developed an interest in her after she won her slam and got to No 1. He asked her about it and she answered. Consistency in her response does not = exploitation.

Nicolás89
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:20 PM
Irregardless, why is it such a big deal that she had a period of not playing her best, started to second guess herself, and talked it out with someone she's incredibly close with? I don't understand why any 22 year old going to an older family member for life advice is such a negative "bullshit" move.

It's not I guess. I did not go there anyway.

Maybe she should move on? Why comment about it time after time?

Nicolás89
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:28 PM
No. It was a journalist recounting her story for people who wont have known it reading a newspaper who may have developed an interest in her after she won her slam and got to No 1. He asked her about it and she answered. Consistency in her response does not = exploitation.

Those interviews are totally rigged by the interviewed person's PR team anyway, the same when she went to Ellen's show. Her story might be truthful but her team is clearly exploiting it.

C. Drone
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:28 PM
imo the only "disturbing" about her grandma story that 5 out of 10 girls on tour has the same or similar story, which is perfect opportunity to bash WTA and tennisworld not offering enough guidance and perspective for young girls.

the rest, story made it big when she became relevant is just product of half arsed journalism and/or small PR tricks.

hurricanejeanne
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:43 PM
It's not I guess. I did not go there anyway.

Maybe she should move on? Why comment about it time after time?

Well, whether Vika's "moved on" or not, it's not going to go away, as long she's successful, people are going to ask her what led her to change and mature and this is always going to be the answer just like Djokovic's dietary changes and Davenport's weight loss. Her talk with her grandmother was Azarenka's turning point.

miffedmax
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:51 PM
Human interest stuff sells.

Like it or not, the WTA is going to hype it's new Number One. I would go so far as to argue that if the WTA failed to hype its new Number One, their entire marketing department deserves to not only be fired, but beaten with sticks.

http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/maria_sharapova_t707.jpg

"We love that we can now stream video of floggings on our phone!"

JadeFox
Feb 28th, 2012, 08:10 PM
Human interest stuff sells.

Like it or not, the WTA is going to hype it's new Number One. I would go so far as to argue that if the WTA failed to hype its new Number One, their entire marketing department deserves to not only be fired, but beaten with sticks.

http://www.techfresh.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/maria_sharapova_t707.jpg

"We love that we can now stream video of floggings on our phone!"

Love that picture of Masha. :hearts:

And yes if the WTA did not promote the new number one and new Slam champion, then they would have to be on crack. :lol:

Rest Maria!
Feb 28th, 2012, 08:10 PM
It'd be a very confusing message for general audience to hype Azarenka to heaven only to be replaced as #1 by Petra soon after. :hatoff:

I changed my college major twice.
Did you change it because things were difficult in your old field or because you became passionate about something else? I also changed my major and I know that no story about 3 jobs and gazillion shifts could talk me out of my decision. It's a vastly different situation from that of Azarenka, when you suddenly feel you're destined for something there's no way back (5 years later, I'm very happy about how things turned out).