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VeeJJ
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:29 PM
Randomly started thinking about some today. And I just can't figure how it went down.

The one that randomly popped in my head today was Venus' loss to Li at AO 2010. I just can't figure out how she lost that match.

Any others?

Craig.
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:30 PM
For Maria...just too many to name. WAY too many.

VeeJJ
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:33 PM
I'm not talking the typical choke. I'm talking like that players soul was switched out with that of an infant and nothing made sense at all. Lol

$uricate
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Losses that baffle you because you don't know how the player managed to lose with the way they were playing or losses that baffle because you're not sure how the player managed to lose in any instance?

Brad[le]y.
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:36 PM
2002 AO final. Hingis hit an overhead to set up championship point; then reverted to pushing. Plus losing a match from 6-4 4-0 up :tape:

Aga's loss to Kerber came out of the blue as well.

dsanders06
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Randomly started thinking about some today. And I just can't figure how it went down.

The one that randomly popped in my head today was Venus' loss to Li at AO 2010. I just can't figure out how she lost that match.

Any others?

That's not a baffling loss atall...Li is a nightmare match-up for Venus, especially on Plexicushion. The real puzzle is how Venus got so close to winning that match in the first place.

dsanders06
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:38 PM
US Open 2007: Radwanska def. Sharapova
Australian Open 2011: Petkovic def. Sharapova

Yes, she was in terrible form at both tournaments, but both are players she matches up exceedingly well with, and who she should beat without exception. And you know she knows it too, and that she's disgusted that they ever happened.

VeeJJ
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:41 PM
Losses that baffle you because you don't know how the player managed to lose with the way they were playing or losses that baffle because you're not sure how the player managed to lose in any instance?

Good question. I guess losses when players were playing well and had decent to significant leads and then just plots the plot and started playing disgusting tennis, not neccisarily UE all over the place but just the most hideous shit ever.

$uricate
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:53 PM
Good question. I guess losses when players were playing well and had decent to significant leads and then just plots the plot and started playing disgusting tennis, not neccisarily UE all over the place but just the most hideous shit ever.

Ok :p

I'll start with a Jelena one.

JJ's loss to Szavay in Beijing 2007 still puzzles me.

She was up 76 51 and then just went away :o What's more bizarre is she fought back from something like 5-0 down in the first set tiebreak. I saw it and still don't know what happened.

gmak
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:55 PM
Lena losing 3 times in a row to freaking Angelika Roesch in 2002 :rolleyes: :facepalm: :o
i mean WTF, i still can't get it :lol:

also Kim's loss to Nadia at AO 2010 :eek:
certainly peak Nadia can beat anyone but that scoreline :o i was watching live and couldn't believe what was happening

also, Maria's loss to Jamea Jackson at Birmingham once

jameshazza
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:57 PM
Maria...:tape:
Kirilenko at AO
Safina at RG particularly 2008

Mainly these two but countless others...

Rest Maria!
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:00 PM
US Open 2007: Radwanska def. Sharapova
Australian Open 2011: Petkovic def. Sharapova
What's so baffling? Typical strategic tank jobs in irrelevant tournaments to enjoy shopping in those cities.



Li vs Clijsters at this year's AO. :facepalm: At least it would be if not for the fact that Li is Li, the most unpredictable player in women's tennis.:o

Curcubeu
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:01 PM
Kvitova's loss to Dulgheru at last year's USO and I'm even saying that as a fan of Alexandra. I know that Petra had breathing problems and doesn't like the American hardcourt swing, but so does Alex and she just came back from an injury a week ago. Not to mention that Petra even wasted some SPs in the first against an opponent with questionable footwork and fitness that got trashed by Niculescu 3 & 0 the round after.

I saw the match and it was just hideous from both, so many errors. I guess any random Top 50 player would have bageled Petra that day, yet I fail to realize how bad she can actually be when she is off.

Gdsimmons
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:04 PM
There are a whole lot but a recent one is definitely Li V Clijsters at AO. 6 fucking 2 up in a tie break and she loses all 4. But that point where Clijsters hit that horrid dropper and Li got to it and hit it RIGHT back to her, and then just stood there and watched the lob go up and over. I was sitting here in my living room like is this for real?

KBdoubleu
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:06 PM
US Open 2007: Radwanska def. Sharapova
Australian Open 2011: Petkovic def. Sharapova

Yes, she was in terrible form at both tournaments, but both are players she matches up exceedingly well with, and who she should beat without exception. And you know she knows it too, and that she's disgusted that they ever happened.

She played poorly against Radwasnka (and it was windy, which Sharapova is notorious for struggling with) - but Sharapova had lost just two games in the first two rounds combined of the tournament that year. Also, her match against Goerges the round before facing Petkovic was actually very high quality. Which, I guess, makes the losses more surprising.

MakarovaFan
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:08 PM
Sharapova 09 USO....she had jus made the SFs of LA and Finals in Toronto playing her best tennis post surgery;breezed through the first 2 rounds with her serve looking in tact; wins a comfortable first set 63 then loses to MELANIE OUDIN. And then very next event Maria wins Tokyo:confused:

CloudAtlas
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:08 PM
There are a whole lot but a recent one is definitely Li V Clijsters at AO. 6 fucking 2 up in a tie break and she loses all 4. But that point where Clijsters hit that horrid dropper and Li got to it and hit it RIGHT back to her, and then just stood there and watched the lob go up and over. I was sitting here in my living room like is this for real?



THIS. That point summed up Kim's post 2009 career perfectly though, reduced to taking advantage of mental lapses by weak players and bullshitting her way through Slams. So much fail in one point by Li, it was beyond belief.

AlwaysGraf
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Henin losing to Bartoli 2007 Wimbledon...I was like WTF is going on here, and even until late in the third I still thought Henin would come through. Kudos to BARTOLI though. I think she is great and hope 2012 is a good year for her :)

DemWilliamsGulls
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:11 PM
I can't understand why Venus plays so poorly against Pirankova. Granted that Pirankova is a good grass court player, but Venus is "the grass court queen" and has won most of her slams on grass. Pirankova will go on to beat Venus and then lose the next round lol ...I'm still baffled by that....I guess. I want the OLD SCHOOL Venus to show up and run a clinic on Pirankova...it may be a little too late at this stage though..

The Dawntreader
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:12 PM
Venus was hideously passive in that Li match, especially after relinquishing the 5-3 lead in the second set, and then serving for the match at 5-4. Just started feeding Li with balls just over the service line, giving Li a chance to be aggressive and also clean up her game as she wasn't being faced with too much unjust pressure. Some of those rallies late in the third, where Venus was just presenting Li winners to hit was shameful. Plus her serve wasn't giving her any free points at all by that stage.

Li was awful too, so it was a baffling loss to eventually play worse than her.

I never really got used to Henin's loss to Bartoli at Wimbledon. She became a timid, tentative error-strewn mess out of nowhere.

Also Venus and Capriati losing to Myskina at RG in such similar horrifying fashion. That was criminal for players with such vast experience at that level, as opposed to Myskina who had never even made a Slam SF at that point.

cellophane
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:13 PM
Kim to Petrova in 2010 Aus Open

MakarovaFan
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:15 PM
Also the 2005 RG & Wimbledon Rd16 matchups between Kim and Davenport: Lindsay won BOTH but the RG macth beating Kim on red clay after trailing something like 61 31 was just head scratching for me...

mauresmofan
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:15 PM
The 2 semis at this years Aussi Open. Petra and Kim had ample opportunity to win those matches and they just messed it up so badly ...... especially Petra!

mauresmofan
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:17 PM
Henin losing to Bartoli 2007 Wimbledon...I was like WTF is going on here, and even until late in the third I still thought Henin would come through. Kudos to BARTOLI though. I think she is great and hope 2012 is a good year for her :)

Yes but James Bond was watching, Marion should pay for him to come to all her big matches!

Apoleb
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:17 PM
I never really got used to Henin's loss to Bartoli at Wimbledon. She became a timid, tentative error-strewn mess out of nowhere.

We all know she lost that match because she didn't want to face Venus in the final, so it wasn't that baffling to me.

The one baffling loss was the Wimbledon 2006 final. She played like she doesn't give a shit in the last two sets. Not the level of intensity and passion you'd expect from a Justine looking for her first Wimbledon win in a quite winnable match.

Pump-it-UP
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:18 PM
Golovin's loss to Rolle at the US Open. :hysteric: Just totally baffling when you look her other losses from August-October. Jankovic, peak Ivanovic, peak Henin.... and Rolle. :hysteric:

Linguae^
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:21 PM
Too many to be mentioned, but Jelena always remembers that USO 2006 SF loss to Justine. Also, every single occasion she had against her.
Also Jelena to Bartoli at Wimbledon broke my heart, completely.
Ana to Bondarenko in New York 2009 was too bad, to Clijsters in Miami last year, to Zheng at Wimbledon, to Henin in her first Slam final - taking just three games, to Kleybanova in Melbourne 2009, to Cetkovska at Wimbledon last year, to Clijsters USO 2010, to Venus USO 2007, to Zvonareva at the end of 2008, then too many to be named, too, too many...

The Dawntreader
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:23 PM
We all know she lost that match because she didn't want to face Venus in the final, so it wasn't that baffling to me.

The one baffling loss was the Wimbledon 2006 final. She played like she doesn't give a shit in the last two sets.

Her forehand went off early in the second second set, and she lost confidence badly off that wing for the remainder of the match. Didn't help that Mauresmo's level rose either. Far from her best, but she was daring enough to try and take the match away from Henin, who was malfuctioning badly, and not just sit back and allow the possibility of Henin regaining form.

That BH volley Mauresmo hit on the penultimate point of the match was sheer guts.

shoparound
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:27 PM
Serena's last two slam losses (USO and Aus), she came out in the US Open final flat and had an overall very poor performance after having a great summer and great tournament.
Her loss to Makarova looked even worse, she looked like she forgot how to hit winners.

Apoleb
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:28 PM
Her forehand went off early in the second second set, and she lost confidence badly off that wing for the remainder of the match. Didn't help that Mauresmo's level rose either. Far from her best, but she was daring enough to try and take the match away from Henin, who was malfuctioning badly, and not just sit back and allow the possibility of Henin regaining form.

That BH volley Mauresmo hit on the penultimate point of the match was sheer guts.

She was still on the verge of choking though. She was rolling her second serves in, in the last game and at match point too, and IIRC Justine gave her a couple of freebies in the last game and didn't take advantage of it. Carlos later said that she didn't want it enough, which is weird, but maybe in 2006 it wasn't her greatest goal. And it wasn't the level of fire and fight I'd expect from her in a Wimbledon final against Bagelie.

And that groundgame meltdown was also baffling because she played a near flawless first set. I was already celebrating. :facepalm:

borrowedheaven
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Too many to be mentioned, but Jelena always remembers that USO 2006 SF loss to Justine. Also, every single occasion she had against her.
Also Jelena to Bartoli at Wimbledon broke my heart, completely.
Ana to Bondarenko in New York 2009 was too bad, to Clijsters in Miami last year, to Zheng at Wimbledon, to Henin in her first Slam final - taking just three games, to Kleybanova in Melbourne 2009, to Cetkovska at Wimbledon last year, to Clijsters USO 2010, to Venus USO 2007, to Zvonareva at the end of 2008, then too many to be named, too, too many...

Really? That one left you baffled?

Kim's loss to Petrova was the one that shocked me the most. It's not even that Petrova was that good, Kim just failed at everything.

VishaalMaria
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:40 PM
Venus's loss to Pironkova at Wimbledon 2010 and 2011 by the same scoreline.

Maria losing to Azarenka 6-3 6-0 in the AO final.

VishaalMaria
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:41 PM
Too many to be mentioned, but Jelena always remembers that USO 2006 SF loss to Justine. Also, every single occasion she had against her.
Also Jelena to Bartoli at Wimbledon broke my heart, completely.
Ana to Bondarenko in New York 2009 was too bad, to Clijsters in Miami last year, to Zheng at Wimbledon, to Henin in her first Slam final - taking just three games, to Kleybanova in Melbourne 2009, to Cetkovska at Wimbledon last year, to Clijsters USO 2010, to Venus USO 2007, to Zvonareva at the end of 2008, then too many to be named, too, too many...

Why was that inexplicable?

Venus outplayed her. Ana wasn't the favorite to win either, was she?

iPatty
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:42 PM
Schnyder vs. V. Williams Stanford SF 2005
Schnyder vs. Sharapova RG R4 2007

:facepalm:

The Dawntreader
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:42 PM
She was still on the verge of choking though. She was rolling her second serves in, in the last game and at match point too, and IIRC Justine gave her a couple of freebies in the last game and didn't take advantage of it. Carlos later said that she didn't want it enough, which is weird, but maybe in 2006 it wasn't her greatest goal. And it wasn't the level of fire and fight I'd expect from her in a Wimbledon final against Bagelie.

And that groundgame meltdown was also baffling because she played a near flawless first set. I was already celebrating. :facepalm:

Apoleb the jinx:devil: :oh:

JamieOwen3
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:45 PM
Venus loss to sprem 2004 wimbledon...
2002 AO Final Martina.... *let's not go there again :sobbing:*
Maria 2008 Wimbledon to ALLA.... :tape:
Serena to JILL CRAYBAS 2005 Wimbledon *a heavier serena should have still snatched that ass*

n1_and_uh_noone
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:54 PM
She was still on the verge of choking though. She was rolling her second serves in, in the last game and at match point too, and IIRC Justine gave her a couple of freebies in the last game and didn't take advantage of it. Carlos later said that she didn't want it enough, which is weird, but maybe in 2006 it wasn't her greatest goal. And it wasn't the level of fire and fight I'd expect from her in a Wimbledon final against Bagelie.

And that groundgame meltdown was also baffling because she played a near flawless first set. I was already celebrating. :facepalm:

Me too :tape:. I even left the match for some 15 minutes and then when I returned, she briefly recovered to break back and then...

More so was the 2007 loss to Bartoli. Sure, Bartoli started playing better in the 2nd set, but after the nice, controlled display by Justine in the 1st set, opening the court up with relaxed deep shots to the corners, it was puzzling how she was struggling in practically every game in the 2nd. Then when she went down 5-0 in the 3rd, I remember thinking, just 2 breaks, she's pulled off some amazing comebacks before. Wasn't to be... the utter lack of intensity was baffling.

Rest Maria!
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:56 PM
THIS. That point summed up Kim's post 2009 career perfectly though, reduced to taking advantage of mental lapses by weak players and bullshitting her way through Slams. So much fail in one point by Li, it was beyond belief.

Kim herself was a mental midget before her pregnancy break, so it's hard to fault her for taking advantage of other mental midgets once she stopped being one. ;)

Apoleb
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:03 PM
Me too :tape:. I even left the match for some 15 minutes and then when I returned, she briefly recovered to break back and then...

More so was the 2007 loss to Bartoli. Sure, Bartoli started playing better in the 2nd set, but after the nice, controlled display by Justine in the 1st set, opening the court up with relaxed deep shots to the corners, it was puzzling how she was struggling in practically every game in the 2nd. Then when she went down 5-0 in the 3rd, I remember thinking, just 2 breaks, she's pulled off some amazing comebacks before. Wasn't to be... the utter lack of intensity was baffling.

I don't really agree. I saw the signs from the first set and especially the first game of the second. I remember leaving the match to go for work, and preparing myself not to be surprised when I type in www.wtaworld.com and see Bartoli def. Henin right at the top of page. Lo and behold, that exactly what happened. :tape:

She looked at her most drained, passive and inhibited right from the start, and for some really weird reason she was slicing like 80% of her backhands. Later, she became even more of a mess and Bartoli lifted her game. At that point, my instincts were that she knew she wasn't in good enough form to handle Venus in a Wimbledon final, and a big loss would be very damaging for her condifence, and we know about her Williams complex. She later confirmed this. It's funny when you follow a player for some time, you really start to know how they function.

naranka
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Seles losing the French Open final to Sanchez-Vicario in 1998, 7-6(5) 0-6 6-2. Seles, practically playing on her home court, led the H2H 14-2 at that point. Seemed like a slam dunk. (Seles never lost to her again, right up through 2002, and the H2H ended at 20-3.)

TennisFanForever
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Henin to Bartoli Wimbledon

also Clijsters losing to Rus at RG from 6-3 5-2 up :facepalm: still don't understand what happened :tape:

n1_and_uh_noone
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:18 PM
I don't really agree. I saw the signs from the first set and especially the first game of the second. I remember leaving the match to go for work, and preparing myself not to be surprised when I type in www.wtaworld.com and see Bartoli def. Henin right at the top of page. Lo and behold, that exactly what happened. :tape:

She looked at her most drained, passive and inhibited right from the start, and for some really weird reason she was slicing like 80% of her backhands. Later, she became even more of a mess and Bartoli lifted her game. At that point, my instincts were that she knew she wasn't in good enough form to handle Venus in a Wimbledon final, and a big loss would be very damaging for her condifence, and we know about her Williams complex. She later confirmed this. It's funny when you follow a player for some time, you really start to know how they function.

I thought the Serena win would have given her belief. Anyway, to be honest, I felt like the Venus fear factor thing seemed to me more of a 'in-retrospect' kind of an explanation, and one I did not like her admitting. She was after all the world no. 1 playing a Venus who had not had a good year until then. But maybe the meekness of her capitulation to Bartoli spurred her on during the USO run the Venus/Serena matches, who knows?

fede33
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:19 PM
Aga lost K.Bondarenko 2009 AO 1R :sobbing::sobbing::sobbing::sobbing::sobbing:
Aga lost Cetkovska 2011 WB 2R :facepalm::facepalm:
Aga lost Kerber 2011 USO 2R
Aga lost Larcher De Brito Miami 2008 :facepalm:
Aga lost Wickmayer and MJMS in fed cup :mad::mad:

Apoleb
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:33 PM
I thought the Serena win would have given her belief. Anyway, to be honest, I felt like the Venus fear factor thing seemed to me more of a 'in-retrospect' kind of an explanation, and one I did not like her admitting. She was after all the world no. 1 playing a Venus who had not had a good year until then. But maybe the meekness of her capitulation to Bartoli spurred her on during the USO run the Venus/Serena matches, who knows?

Well, she didn't play a great match against Serena, where she was already looking sort of tired. She was dodgy (also possible shoulder injury) at that Wimbly, all the way through, certainly not good enough to take on Venus in a final, especially that ever since that virus she kind of always played a gear below in finals. She didn't have any delusions about her form. I don't think she went in the match planning to tank or anything like that, but she certainly was already shitting stones at the prospect of facing Venus in the final while not being anywhere near her optimal ball striking ability (to be honest, I was too :o), and this very much affected her approach and attitude in the match.

And tbh it wasn't a bad thing at all. A big loss to Venus would have been very bad for her confidence, and who knows, maybe that 2007 USO wouldn't have happened. She got her wig when she hit peak form.

JCTennisFan
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:38 PM
Myskina D. Capriati FO 2004

Henin D. Capriati USO 2003

Majoli D. Hingis FO 97

Serena D. Sharapova AO 07

All of Momo's FO chokes

Stosur D. Henin FO 2010

Martinez D. Nav W 94

Petrova D. Clijsters AO 2010

Alot more that I cant think of off the top of my head..

WowWow
Feb 25th, 2012, 11:39 PM
Myskina D. Capriati FO 2004

Henin D. Capriati USO 2003

Majoli D. Hingis FO 97

Serena D. Sharapova AO 07

All of Momo's FO chokes

Stosur D. Henin FO 2010

Martinez D. Nav W 94

Petrova D. Clijsters AO 2010

Alot more that I cant think of off the top of my head..
This:help:

The Dawntreader
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:20 AM
This:help:

Mauresmo's RG chokes? She was out-played in almost every single one of her losses there.

laurie
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:34 AM
For me it has to be the 2004 US Open semi, Capriati should have won that match....

Bartoli coming back to beat Henin in the 2007 Wimby semi is also baffling even now.

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:37 AM
Pova losing to Pushrenko AO 2010. :tears:

And of course Martina losing to Majoli. :sobbing:

mac47
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:39 AM
Petra's loss to Pova in 2012 AO Semi. Utterly bewildering to me. She was putting so much pressure on Maria's serve in the third set, and was holding her own serve very well. Went 3/14 on bp, while Pova went 5/5. Disgusting and baffling.

SilverPersian
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:47 AM
Every time Sam plays Flavia. I just don't understand what the problem is :sad:

Curtos07
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:50 AM
Ana to Julie Coin at 2008 USO 2R.

Ana was #1 in the world, Coin was a qualifier ranked #188 who only had ONE career WTA main draw win prior to that match.

BillFromRichmond
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:58 AM
At the time, definitely Bartoli beating Henin Wimbledon 2007. Especially when Venus then crushed her in the final.

The whole run by Oudin at the 2009 US Open, beating 4 Russians in a row including Dementieva and Sharapova.

2011: Pekovic losing third round at Wimbledon to Pervak

AND the living nightmare Pironkova. Beats Venus twice in a row at Wimbledon and then beats Kerber at Doha a couple of weeks ago after Kerber wins the week before and then beats Lisicki in round 1.

VeeJJ
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:01 AM
Ana to Julie Coin at 2008 USO 2R.

Ana was #1 in the world, Coin was a qualifier ranked #188 who only had ONE career WTA main draw win prior to that match.
But didn't Ana have a finger injury or something like that? She hadn't played much or at all that summer I think.

Big_Banana
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:05 AM
Li losing to Li in A0 2012 4th round.

sammy01
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:52 AM
still don't know what was going through kim's head in that loss to petrova in 2010? i mean kim was missing badly on everything she went for, in normal circumstance kim shuts up shop at this point and will just rally her opponent either into submission or until kim finds some form. in this match she just continued to swing at it and misfire. petrova played well but must have had such a comfortable feeling knowing for every point petrova won kim was giving her 2 as well. petrova is such a headcase too, if kim had resorted to 'pushing' and forced petrova to win that match, you know petrova would have crumbled.

sammy01
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:57 AM
Mauresmo's RG chokes? She was out-played in almost every single one of her losses there.

no! she was the most tentative i have ever seen a player whenever she played at RG. she could barely get her arm through in certain matches at RG. she would try to smother her forehand with spin, to the point they would barely make the net.

momo never had chance to choke at the french open because she simply couldn't even play there to get in a lead, horrific.

Alejandrawrrr
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:19 AM
Now that someone mentioned it, definitely Kim's RG loss to Rus. Not to say I was disappointed :oh: Turned it on just as Kim was up like 6-3 4-something, and for some reason kept watching. I remember when Kim hit that "return winner" where the ball hit the outside of the netpost and bounced in, I was positive Rus was going to somehow lose the match. Even when she was up 5-1 in the third I would have put money on her losing.

Singleniacki
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:50 AM
At the time, definitely Bartoli beating Henin Wimbledon 2007. Especially when Venus then crushed her in the final.



6-1 6-4 isn't that bad. But yeah the Henin match is a mystery, Marion definitely wasn't expected to win that match. Henin got a bit tight in the 2nd, Marion was confident in the 3rd.

Casey's run at AO a few years back is astounding. Consistently lost 1st round then randomly beats Mauresmo and Schnyder in extended 3rd sets :lol:

vswfan
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:04 PM
Venus to Mauresmo 2005 Antwerp final. She really loved that diamond racket...
I can get over all the losses of Serena because she has done so much. Maybe the USO final last year is still a little painful but I think it's no big deal

Mistress of Evil
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:15 PM
Kimberly's abomination of tennis shown at the OZ Open in 2010, I still do not have the slightest of an idea what happened there. :tape:

The Dawntreader
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:45 PM
no! she was the most tentative i have ever seen a player whenever she played at RG. she could barely get her arm through in certain matches at RG. she would try to smother her forehand with spin, to the point they would barely make the net.

momo never had chance to choke at the french open because she simply couldn't even play there to get in a lead, horrific.

That's what i said. Gosh.

jameshazza
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:47 PM
That's what i said. Gosh.

:confused:

WowWow
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Mauresmo's RG chokes? She was out-played in almost every single one of her losses there.

She choked at the very thought of that tournament. It was very clear to everyone who followed her career. Outside of RG, she was very good on clay.

WowWow
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:49 PM
That's what i said. Gosh.

Not really, but moving on....

The Dawntreader
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:52 PM
no! she was the most tentative i have ever seen a player whenever she played at RG. she could barely get her arm through in certain matches at RG. she would try to smother her forehand with spin, to the point they would barely make the net.

momo never had chance to choke at the french open because she simply couldn't even play there to get in a lead, horrific.

She choked at the very thought of that tournament. It was very clear to everyone who followed her career. Outside of RG, she was very good on clay.

Who cares if she 'choked'? Serena out-played Mauresmo in 2003, Dementieva played one of the best clay-court matches in 2004, Ivanovic was out-hitting Mauresmo in 2005. The only bizarre loss were the losses to Kandarr, Suarez and maybe Vaidisova in 2006.

I don't know how people pretend Mauresmo was some RG GOAT in the making.

WowWow
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:56 PM
Who cares if she 'choked'? Serena out-played Mauresmo in 2003, Dementieva played one of the best clay-court matches in 2004, Ivanovic was out-hitting Mauresmo in 2005. The only bizarre loss were the losses to Kandarr, Suarez and maybe Vaidisova in 2006.

I don't know how people pretend Mauresmo was some RG GOAT in the making.

:haha:

You kinda went too far there.

No one said she was RG GOAT, but you gotta admit that losing to low ranked players in early rounds is not acceptable for a top 10 player of that generation.

The Dawntreader
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:02 PM
:haha:

You kinda went too far there.

No one said she was RG GOAT, but you gotta admit that losing to low ranked players in early rounds is not acceptable for a top 10 player of that generation.

None of her RG really surprise me that much. The only ones that truly were baffling were the loss to Kandarr in 2001 and Vaidisova in 2006. The latter because she completely faded away from the match inexplicably after playing a decent first set.

She didn't even play that badly vs Ivanovic in 2005. She was just out-played.

babsi
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:13 PM
Coetzer beating Davenport and Seles back to back in Tokyo in 1999. I saw both results on Teletext and thought both were mistakes that how suprised I was.

delicatecutter
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:19 PM
Baby Ajde losing to Coin and Safina losing to Kelly Chang.

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:29 PM
None of her RG really surprise me that much. The only ones that truly were baffling were the loss to Kandarr in 2001 and Vaidisova in 2006. The latter because she completely faded away from the match inexplicably after playing a decent first set.

She didn't even play that badly vs Ivanovic in 2005. She was just out-played.

That's what people call choking. :unsure:

Jane Lane
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:46 PM
We all know how I feel about Ana but that Coin loss was the single most WTF tennis result in the history of forever.

The Dawntreader
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:01 PM
That's what people call choking. :unsure:

Not it isn't. If anything she was spent. She wasn't in a commanding enough position to choke.

Sammo
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:04 PM
0-6 6-3 6-4

NA-GOAT
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:11 PM
Na losing to Pelletier :tape:

Mixal
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:22 PM
That's not a baffling loss atall...Li is a nightmare match-up for Venus, especially on Plexicushion. The real puzzle is how Venus got so close to winning that match in the first place.

:facepalm:

roelc
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:30 PM
kim losing to
- davenport R4 RG 2005, i still dont get it
- mauresmo RR YEC 2005, never seen her play with that attitude, not interested at all, very strange to watch (probably parents' divorce having something to do with it)
- petrova R3 AO 2010, watching it on the screens inside hisense. unbelievable. luckily i didnt buy a ticket for that. would ve been too ironic
- rus R2 RG 2011, same as with davenport. how could she lose this match?

Safe-From-Harm
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:41 PM
Jelena losing to Henin in like 80% of their matches.
That Berlin match, where JJ was 4-0 (40-30) up in third, then lost 4-6.
Then that US Open 2006 match...dear God... 6-4, 4-2 (40-15), and lost 4-6, 0-6...
and many many more.

Then USO final, where she didn`t take 4 SP at 5-3 in second,
then last year Dubai against Caroline, where she had 5*-3(40-00), but still lost the set :tape:

Someone mentioned match against Agnes...I still don`t get it, how can she lost from 5-1 and MP
to 5-7 and 2-6. Mentaly fragile JJ....why I chose You as my fave? Why :hysteric:

Stonerpova
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:46 PM
2010 AO R1 vs. Kirilenko. Maria played pretty well in an exhibition the week before, beating Wozniacki pretty comfortably, and then she played like complete shit. And, of course, the match against Oudin. :tape:

I've learned not be baffled by Ivanovic losses anymore. Wimbledon last year against Cetkovska was pretty strange, though, considering Ana double bagelled her the last time they played

Other strange results:
2005 IW F, Clijsters def. Davenport 64 46 62 - Davenport was up 4-0 and 0-40 on Kim's serve and somehow lost the set
2005 RG 4R, Davenport def. Clijsters 16 75 63 - one of Lindsay's most random wins, Kim led 61 31

Safina def. Sharapova at the French (part 2) still baffles me as well.

Expat
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:47 PM
hingis losing to graf FO99. in retrospect it went downhill quite rapidly for her from there.

roelc
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:52 PM
Jelena losing to Henin in like 80% of their matches.

while in fact she lost to henin in 100% of their matches :)

Stonerpova
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:59 PM
while in fact she lost to henin in 100% of their matches :)

But most of them were very winnable.

cecilija
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:04 PM
But most of them were very winnable.

against the same old myth being rehashed :zzz:

n1_and_uh_noone
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:07 PM
Jelena losing to Henin in like 80% of their matches.
That Berlin match, where JJ was 4-0 (40-30) up in third, then lost 4-6.
Then that US Open 2006 match...dear God... 6-4, 4-2 (40-15), and lost 4-6, 0-6...
and many many more.


10-0, and 2 bagels as well :drool:. JJ even said after her retirement she was glad because she could win more matches now :lol:

young_gunner913
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:13 PM
Queen Bethanie:

2010 Toronto R2 vs Clijsters
2010 USO R2 vs Petkovic
2011 RG R3 vs Jankovic
2012 AO R1 vs Radwanska

Just to name a few. :o

Uranus
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:26 PM
Henin's loss to Bartoli (16 75 61, was leading 61 2-0 when I left) in 2007 and Venus's loss to Pironkova in 2010 at Wimbledon come to my mind. Never expected those.

Awh, and Kim's 4r loss to Davenport at RG 2005, after leading 61 5-3 (losing 16 75 63). This, knowing Lindsay's love for clay and the fact Kim won IW + Miami in a perfect fashion just before.

dsanders06
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:32 PM
Some really strange suggestions here...people seem to be using "bad/embarrassing losses" and "baffling losses" interchangeably :lol: Hingis's loss in the RG '99 final might have been embarrassing and had a negative impact on her career, but it's hardly baffling - looking back, it's pretty easy to explain why it happened, when you consider her general tendency of choking in the big moment from 1999 onwards. Same for the people suggesting Mauresmo losing early at RG or Venus losing early at the Australian are "baffling", when in actual fact they spent almost all their careers doing that :lol: And don't get me started on people saying Jankovic choking leads to Henin being "baffling" when she routinely chokes leads to players far inferior to Justine.

The archetypal truly baffling loss is Kim to Petrova at the AO2010, which even in retrospect is utterly inexplicable, as, when you examine her few tournaments before that and her few tournaments after it, it goes completely against the grain.

Alejandrawrrr
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:40 PM
The final of the last slam last year. Queen losing to a player she just trounced on the same surface a couple of weeks prior, not to mention losing to a player so pathetic in finals(of any kind.) Factor in the 18 match winning streak and... Just speaking of that fiasco makes me nauseous.

I watched it live(of course) and the anger didn't even set in for the first half an hour or so because my mind refused to accept that Queen could lose to that abomination.

Barktra
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:43 PM
Henin's lost to Garbin at RG 04

Stonerpova
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Awh, and Kim's 4r loss to Davenport at RG 2005, after leading 61 5-3 (losing 16 75 63). This, knowing Lindsay's love for clay and the fact Kim won IW + Miami in a perfect fashion just before.

Clijsters didn't actually serve for it. She led 3-1 in the second set and had break-points at 4-4 to serve for the match, but she didn't convert. Sorry to be nitpicky but I just watched it :lol:

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Queen Bethanie:

2010 Toronto R2 vs Clijsters
2010 USO R2 vs Petkovic
2011 RG R3 vs Jankovic
2012 AO R1 vs Radwanska

Just to name a few. :o

Eh no, had she won any those is what would have been baffling.

young_gunner913
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:04 PM
Eh no, had she won any those is what would have been baffling.

Shouldn't you be off trying to fluke more of Mythtina's career?

Tomic
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:14 PM
Jelena Janković FO 2010 to Sam

Anna C. FO 2009 lost to M Duque Mariño

Dinara Safina FO 2009 lost to Kuznetsova

Pavlyuchenkova FO 2011 Lost to Schiavone

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:52 PM
Shouldn't you be off trying to fluke more of Mythtina's career?

Ugh, update your jokes jinx. It's like the same response over and over. :o

And at least Martina had a career unlike....well others.

Sha_ra_po_va
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:53 PM
Any of Maria's losses to Pushniacki
Maria's losses to Radwanksa & Oudin at US Open
Henin's loss to Bartoli @ Wimbledon
:confused::confused::confused:

young_gunner913
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Ugh, update your jokes jinx. It's like the same response over and over. :o

And at least Martina had a career unlike....well others.

And at least "others" can take solace with their achievements and the fact their careers were never ended/tainted by a ban for cocaine addiction. :)

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:05 PM
And at least "others" can take solace with their achievements and the fact their careers were never ended/tainted by a ban for cocaine addiction. :)

Sure, but to do that they need to have achieved something. :)

young_gunner913
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Sure, but to do that they need to have achieved something. :)

She has, sobriety from drugs.

Serena_Williams_
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:16 PM
2011 USO and 2010 RG...A freaking MP Serena :sobbing:

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:16 PM
She has, sobriety from drugs.

After seeing her on court outfits I highly doubt that.

young_gunner913
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:26 PM
After seeing her on court outfits I highly doubt that.

Better than some of court outfits.

http://i40.tinypic.com/kuec3.jpg

Nicolás89
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:30 PM
Better than some of court outfits.

http://i40.tinypic.com/kuec3.jpg

She learned how to dress properly after that incident, some will never learn.

Safe-From-Harm
Feb 26th, 2012, 06:34 PM
10-0, and 2 bagels as well :drool:. JJ even said after her retirement she was glad because she could win more matches now :lol:


So what? 80% of their matches was so close.
I am sure Jelena was happy then, cause Justine`s game didn`t fit to Jelena.
I am also glad she retired cause of her coach and her questionable sportmanship.

starin
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Venus vs. Pironkova. Considering how bad Pironkvoa is it's one of the most bizarre H2H in the modern era.

JCTennisFan
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:41 PM
And at least "others" can take solace with their achievements and the fact their careers were never ended/tainted by a ban for cocaine addiction. :)

Didnt you call me a hypocrite for not being "nice enough" to Whitney Houston's drug addictions in another thread? If I remember correctly you were talking about "compassion" and all that..... :wavey: :kiss:

I mean if Hingis died tomorrow from cardiac arrest due to Cocaine addiction, how would you live with yourself? :devil: :spit:

young_gunner913
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:45 PM
Didnt you call me a hypocrite for not being "nice enough" to Whitney Houston's drug addictions in another thread? If I remember correctly you were talking about "compassion" and all that..... :wavey: :kiss: I mean if Hingis died tomorrow from cardiac arrest due to Cocaine addiction, how would you live with yourself? :devil: :spit:

Was her life ended by addiction? No. Stick to worrying about Jennifer and her boyfriend problems.

And I think you even making a joke about Martina dying to try and make a point shows how disgusting you are. :tape:

JCTennisFan
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Was her life ended by addiction? No. Stick to worrying about Jennifer and her boyfriend problems.

And I think you even making a joke about Martina dying to try and make a point shows how disgusting you are. :tape:

Nah... it just shows that you are the hypocrite. Its called projection, last I heard. Check and mate ;)

The Daviator
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:54 PM
Strasbourg F '04: Schaul def. Davenport 2-6 6-0 6-3

Nothing baffles me more than this. So much wrong here, Lindsay won the first routinely as she always did against players like Claudine, then a loss and a bagel :facepalm: Lindsay so rarely lost to random players and '04 was such a good year for her :o

Venus' double 62 63 defeats to Pironkova at Wimby are just plain spooky.

miffedmax
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:02 PM
Honestly, as a Dementieva fan I was never sure whether to be baffled when she lost, or when she won.

machinist
Mar 26th, 2012, 04:02 PM
Strasbourg F '04: Schaul def. Davenport 2-6 6-0 6-3

Nothing baffles me more than this. So much wrong here, Lindsay won the first routinely as she always did against players like Claudine, then a loss and a bagel :facepalm: Lindsay so rarely lost to random players and '04 was such a good year for her :o

Venus' double 62 63 defeats to Pironkova at Wimby are just plain spooky.
taht was a shocking loss for Lindsay.

*JR*
Mar 27th, 2012, 01:24 AM
Oz '03, 2 time defending champ vs. (Sanex) WTA #98 :o

Women's Singles - 1st Round
Marlene Weingartner GER 2 7 6
Jennifer Capriati USA (3) 6 6 4

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Kapros, Aniko (HUN) 179
v :help:
Justine Henin 5

2002 FRENCH OPEN CLAY R128 A. Kapros 4-6 6-1 6-0

======================================

Let.them.talk
Mar 27th, 2012, 01:28 AM
Justine losing with Serena in AO Final 2010 :sad:

:worship: LE PETIT :worship:

DefyingGravity
Mar 27th, 2012, 01:45 AM
I will never understand what Ivanovic was doing losing to Sevastova in Indian Wells in 2010 or Larsson at Roland Garros in 2011. Especially that Larsson match...or really that entire clay season was just a big lesson in WTF Ana.

Nicolás89
Mar 27th, 2012, 01:46 AM
I think I'm reposting myself but whatever, Hingis losing to that fluke & then to that super overachiever in RG still makes me feel confused & dehydrated.

Tenis Srbija
Mar 27th, 2012, 01:47 AM
Janković - Myskina at Wimbledon like 5 years ago................................
and that Raymond - Schruff match at RG, where one of them was 6-0 5-0 up :lol:

Tenis Srbija
Mar 27th, 2012, 01:50 AM
Any of Maria's losses to Pushniacki
Maria's losses to Radwanksa & Oudin at US Open
Henin's loss to Bartoli @ Wimbledon
:confused::confused::confused:

THAT ONE! I'm still :confused: with it...

aimee20
Mar 27th, 2012, 01:51 AM
Look at my avatar. I can go on and on forever :help:

BillFromRichmond
Mar 27th, 2012, 02:53 AM
This Miami tournament has seen some monumental collapses. McHale vs. Cetkovska, up 6-0 4-0, loses. Scheepers wins first set 6-2 and is up two breaks in the second, serves twice for the match against Stosur and loses. And today, Azarenka is getting pummeled by Cibulkova 6-1, 5-1 and comes back to win the match.