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Mynarco
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Goerges was so up and down - hitting errors and winners intermittently, not able to find consistency. Radwanska's 2nd serve remains a joke, patience paid off at the end though.

FedererBulgaria
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Shame :facepalm:

saul1333
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:54 PM
Thank you Aga :hearts:

She could have been out in R1 against Wozniak..great use of the opportunity. :)

Title #8 :D

Great rxn from Aga..never seen her so happy :)

GoofyDuck
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:55 PM
:shrug:

Lulu.
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Aga. :yeah:
Congrats on title #8 and the #5 ranking.

young_gunner913
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Thank goodness Aga won, Julia is such a joke. :lol:

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:55 PM
Shame goerges played well in patches, Agas grunt is getting a bit louder than usual its not annoying me or anything but you can hear her a lot more a little bit hypocritical if you ask me but then thats that really. Well done aga on winning the dubai title.

Macomere
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
:cheer: well done Aga..had me on edge there for a sec in the 2nd :sobbing:

Mixal
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Feast on it, vulture.

SwingVolley93
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Aga work on that serve, she was lucky that Georges made those errors at the end
I think she's in such shit form yet keeps winning
As for Jules great week her ranking will keep soaring
Amazing reaction from Aga :hearts:
Love her so much.

Berlin_Calling
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
The Beast beats the Beauty, and all is not right in the world :(

Viktymise
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Ugh.

Everything about A Rat is just so contemptible. Her face, her game, her personality etc.

Break My Rapture
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
One of the events I like the most overrun by The Polish Pushers these last couple of years. Sigh.

Jule. :hug: Good week. Hilarious how bananas those Poles in the crowd go over Radwanska doing absolutely nothing on the court. :lol:

MarkNL
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Stupid internet connection, missed the matchpoint :fiery:

Aga :D She looked so happy :)

olivero
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
1st set was very entertaining, well played from both. The 2nd one was meh
:cheer: well done Agnieszka! Well played, very pleased with her today :yeah:
Julia fought well.

Noctis
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
From almost out against Wozniak :)

Craig.
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Ugh.

This.

vspak
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Aga :**

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
I do enjoy her talks at the end though.

delicatecutter
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
So happy for Aga and the #5 ranking! She'll overtake Goatniacki in no time! :cheer:

And Jules was so impressive. She lost 1 and 1 less than a month ago but made this match far more competitive. Aga is a nightmare match-up for her. Onwards and upwards!!

doujyr
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
:sobbing: no sooner does one pusher drop down the rankings, another even more boring one climbs up :hysteric:

Johnbert
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
at least not a beatdown like at the australian open. anyway, good tournament jules :kiss:

Kim's_fan_4ever
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
GOAT :worship:

KoOlMaNsEaN
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
It's so interesting to see Goerges being able to beat Wozniacki but continuously struggle against Radwanska. Especially since Caro and Aga have similar game styles. Julia's inconsistent game hampers her again...

Mustafina
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Well done. Winner of San Diego, Tokyo, Beijing and now Dubai. Would have never believed it a few years ago.

Overtake your BFF now Aga!

aguy9797
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Good match Aga!

This was a good match . Aga’s variety was too much for Julia.

Julia can make it more competitive on clay when she gets more time to set up her shots, but otherwise, Julia’s movement and footwork is awful, not sure how she can fix that.

Aga, congrats on being Top 5!!!

Gdsimmons
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Goerges can be red hot or blistering cold. Its such a wide spectrum.

But big up to Radwanska. She doesnt have that many points to defend until later in the year. She can definitely move up.

olivero
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Shame goerges played well in patches, Agas grunt is getting a bit louder than usual its not annoying me or anything but you can hear her a lot more a little bit hypocritical if you ask me but then thats that really. Well done aga on winning the dubai title.

Are you serious? :lol:

adner
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Shame goerges played well in patches, Agas grunt is getting a bit louder than usual its not annoying me or anything but you can hear her a lot more a little bit hypocritical if you ask me but then thats that really. Well done aga on winning the dubai title.
http://www.tennisforum.com/customavatars/avatar61479_4.gif This is the best response if you really think that natural grunting can even be compared with those screams that Azarenka and Sharapova unveil.

Apoleb
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Generation suck living up to its name. Dreadful match, dreadful tournament.

Kind of smart from Ratwanska to mix it up to the forehand and backhand at the end, cause it made Hypes lose any rhythm she might build on her horrendous, disgusting, vile backhand. She isn't such a good matchup for Fluff - she's just on awful form.

Michael!
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Thank goodness Aga won, Julia is such a joke. :lol:

joke was at least good enough to trash your Peer two times and beat Sexlana before here in Dubai :zzz:


well, better result than expected, just not consistent enough as usual but tough to beat Radwanska anyway.
We´ll see how Julia will continue, I hope that she gets a bit more consistent at least and beat the players she has to beat but she just plays too brainless still here and there but final here was obviously great, well done! :)

aguy9797
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:59 PM
The Beast beats the Beauty, and all is not right in the world :(

or maybe brain beats dumb?

mirzafanindia
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:59 PM
Julia:fiery:I thought you'll teach another pusher a lesson..
I have stopped supporting Aga after her comments about Vika which clearly shows jealousy..And it's great to watch someone hit winners like Julia than Aga..anyway congrats

pla
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:01 PM
It's so interesting to see Goerges being able to beat Wozniacki but continuously struggle against Radwanska. Especially since Caro and Aga have similar game styles. Julia's inconsistent game hampers her again...

This should start ringing finally bells that they DON'T have similar game styles. ;)

I am happy for Aga. Julia did well but she is too inconsistent, which is normal at this moment.

SoBizarre
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:01 PM
A-Rad: Making Germans cry since 2006 :p

Invisible Fan
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Generation suck living up to its name. Dreadful match, dreadful tournament.


What were the winner/unforced error stats like?

ElusiveChanteuse
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Aga :woohoo: :cheer:

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Are you serious? :lol:

yes actually you could hear her a lot more, yet a few weeks ago she was moaning about people grunting just do not be hypocritical I do not care if you grunt just don't have a go at others for doing it.

Wintermute
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:02 PM
Well done Aga. I'm always impressed by how unfazed she is when things start going against her. I think the fact she doesn't seem to panic is what's given her the edge in a few close matches.

Julia seems to be on the brink of bigger things but she's too streaky within matches. When her forehand is firing it's pretty electrifying to see.

vspak
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:02 PM
stop damn jealous

Aga the best <3

delicatecutter
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:02 PM
The people calling Radwanska a pusher are dumb. She had 17 winners and 12 UE against Goerges who plays such kamikaze tennis. Damn fine stats if you ask me. I saw her go for winners numerous times and make them. Pushers (aka Wozniacki) don't do that. :shrug: PAY ATTENTION.

adner
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
yes actually you could hear her a lot more, yet a few weeks ago she was moaning about people grunting just do not be hypocritical I do not care if you grunt just don't have a go at others for doing it.
She does not moan about grunting. She's complaining about hysterical screaming :rolleyes:

Libertango
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
To say Julia is streaky is an understatement. Oh well, I'm disappointed but it was a great week for her.

Well done to Aga! She's stepping up.

Good match!

Ferg
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Best vulture on the tour these days :bowdown:

Simugna Help
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
This should start ringing finally bells that they DON'T have similar game styles. ;)

I am happy for Aga. Julia did well but she is too inconsistent, which is normal at this moment.
Yup, I'd like Woz to make something as ballsy as Rad's return dropshot (even if it didn't pay off).

I didn't catch the match stats, hopefully someone else did. :sobbing:

http://i43.tinypic.com/34rggaa.jpg

Title #8 :cheer:

Libertango
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
Also, when did Aga adopt the Kirilenko grunt?!

SoBizarre
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
well, better result than expected

Really? :bs:

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:04 PM
http://www.tennisforum.com/customavatars/avatar61479_4.gif This is the best response if you really think that natural grunting can even be compared with those screams that Azarenka and Sharapova unveil.

Wow touchy radwanska fans, no my point is just do not moan about it if you want to grunt yourself, she was getting louder at the end, yeh shes not screeching but you could just hear her more.

St.Sebastian
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:04 PM
What were the winner/unforced error stats like?

Julia 40 something winners, 54 UE
Aga 17 W / 12 UE

Break My Rapture
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:06 PM
It's so interesting to see Goerges being able to beat Wozniacki but continuously struggle against Radwanska. Especially since Caro and Aga have similar game styles. Julia's inconsistent game hampers her again...
I'm starting to think Radwanska is an even bigger pusher than Wozniacki. Wozniacki's FH is played with topspin for more security but also allows her to miraculiously construct points (albeit at the lowest success rate ever), but still more active point construction than Radwanska's puff game. The latter plays a couple of wrong-footers and dropshots once in a while and it stops there. Goerges likes shots that give her the time necessary to set up so that's why she does better against Woz probably.

cn ireland
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Congrats Aga:yeah:

Ferg
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:07 PM
Also, when did Aga adopt the Kirilenko grunt?!

Calling the sound Kirilenko makes a grunt is a massive understatement.

Vikapower
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:07 PM
:lol: Well Julia tried her best but the desperation look she has when her best shots always come back or when she misses a shot attempted down the line for example with no form of control at 500km/h just shows the huge amount of progress she needs to become a very top player.

It's step by step, that was her first HC premier final there might be others but again more control Julia, more patience, more in between tennis and not so much either super wonderful winners or most basic UE's...

Players like Radwanska will always have advantages on players like Julia for the the simplest reason that players like Julia can be quite very un-thoughtful/stubborn but it was a good week nevertheless.

olivero
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:08 PM
yes actually you could hear her a lot more, yet a few weeks ago she was moaning about people grunting just do not be hypocritical I do not care if you grunt just don't have a go at others for doing it.

I know what she said. I'm just amazed you're comparing screaming on every shot (Maria, Vika etc) with grunting while you're in an intensive rally. Besides Aga's grunts are far less noisy than those of Maria and Viktoria.

StoneRose
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:09 PM
Congrats Aga :cheer:. Well deserved victory, unfortunately Julia wasn't very impressive with all those errors. At least she proved to some extent that she's not totally useless on HC but it's a long way to top 10 if she doesn't cut down on those UEs.

Invisible Fan
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:09 PM
Julia 40 something winners, 54 UE
Aga 17 W / 12 UE

Thanks. I didn't see the match but the stats aren't too bad - although 54 ue in 2 sets is a bit :o

mk27
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:10 PM
A-Rad: Making Germans cry since 2006 :p

Kerber beat her at the US Open :shrug:

Landon92
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:10 PM
Her reaction was extremly lovely. :)
She is amazing.

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:10 PM
I know what she said. I'm just amazed you're comparing screaming on every shot (Maria, Vika etc) with grunting while you're in an intensive rally. Besides Aga's grunts are far less noisy than those of Maria and Viktoria.

Yes I agree they are far less noisy not comparing just saying don't moan at others if you want to grunt yourself, is that too hard to understand, its hypocritical and if she wants to grunt fine just leave the screamers alone, or stay quiet the whole match instead of grunting, against aleks wozniak she was not as loud as today and in my opinion it was a tougher match.

Break My Rapture
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:11 PM
Kerber beat her at the US Open :shrug:
:lol: Owned.

plokploky
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:11 PM
oh well, I'm sure goerges will get other chances soon. Does this mean she is more secure in the top 20.

SoBizarre
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:12 PM
Kerber beat her at the US Open :shrug:

Yes, but A-Rad was bitching afterwards, not crying. :lol:

danieln1
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:12 PM
NID.

Unless Julia gets a brain she will never be able to beat Radwanska.

Chim
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:12 PM
Still very happy Julia made it to the final. Great effort:cheer:

I can see Aga will be another Wozniacki. Very consistent with great mental toughness. She will be a top 3 very soon. Not sure if that's good for women's tennis. :help: Congrats Aga!

delicatecutter
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:14 PM
I'm starting to think Radwanska is an even bigger pusher than Wozniacki. Wozniacki's FH is played with topspin for more security but also allows her to miraculiously construct points (albeit at the lowest success rate ever), but still more active point construction than Radwanska's puff game. The latter plays a couple of wrong-footers and dropshots once in a while and it stops there. Goerges likes shots that give her the time necessary to set up so that's why she does better against Woz probably.

You don't know what a pusher means then. Wozniacki almost never plays to win points. See her first winner yesterday not being until like the 10th game or something. She doesn't construct points; she just has bad technique on her FH that manages to be effective. She literally waits for her opponents to make errors.

I am so sick of people saying Radwanska is a vulture, when Wozniacki was the TRUE vulture who ascended to #1 in the World. Radwanska is an under-powered player who would have flourished back in the day. Great control, excellent touch, good at the net. Very intelligent player. To see her doing so well warms my heart.

Vikapower
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:14 PM
It's so interesting to see Goerges being able to beat Wozniacki but continuously struggle against Radwanska. Especially since Caro and Aga have similar game styles. Julia's inconsistent game hampers her again...

:happy: Well it's probably because of that (after defeating Caroline) :

"Some players you can see if they really like your game or they don't. On her I can see she doesn't really like my game. That's pretty important for me to see."

For whatever reasons Julia wants to play arrogant tennis against Radwanska trying to hit winners like Top spin 3. :lol: These forehands Julia stroke in open stance DTL in Top Spin you succeed them. :lol: Petra also succeeds them but her technique, fluidity etc... are masterful.

You need to go down in the dirt with Radwanska, Julia does that well against Wozniacki.

Tennis Observer
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:16 PM
It's so interesting to see Goerges being able to beat Wozniacki but continuously struggle against Radwanska. Especially since Caro and Aga have similar game styles. [...]
Does Aga - who plays flat - allow Julia to hit with her FH as big as "Ms Sunshine" does? If you answer this question with "no", you might have found one key for their different results.

Teseo
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:17 PM
You can say what you prefer, but Radwanska is really a boring girl.

StoneRose
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:17 PM
Still very happy Julia made it to the final. Great effort:cheer:

I can see Aga will be another Wozniacki. Very consistent with great mental toughness. She will be a top 3 very soon. Not sure if that's good for women's tennis. :help: Congrats Aga!

Aga's game is more varied than Caro's, that makes it harder for Julia to get in position for the killer. At her best Caro is even more consistent than Aga is, not now though.... Top 3 will be hard but she may pass Sam. Then again clay is coming and Sam is supposed to play well there.

Fighterpova
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:17 PM
Amazing celebration from Aga :hearts:
I enjoyed the match, it was quite dramatic, especially towards the end :yeah:

Julia :hug: Good result :)

Aga :hearts: Welcome to the Top 5 :D :cheer:

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:18 PM
You don't know what a pusher means then. Wozniacki almost never plays to win points. See her first winner yesterday not being until like the 10th game or something. She doesn't construct points; she just has bad technique on her FH that manages to be effective. She literally waits for her opponents to make errors.

I am so sick of people saying Radwanska is a vulture, when Wozniacki was the TRUE vulture who ascended to #1 in the World. Radwanska is an under-powered player who would have flourished back in the day. Great control, excellent touch, good at the net. Very intelligent player. To see her doing so well warms my heart.

This I have always said this about Radwanska she is very good coming forward, However she can push as well yesterday did not hit a single winner in a bagel set against jankovic which is worrying. I also agree with everything you said about caroline.

Vikapower
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:18 PM
Thank goodness Aga won, Julia is such a joke. :lol:

You're such a troll, the same who predicted Caroline to trash Julia. Get a clue.

Jerem
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:19 PM
You don't know what a pusher means then. Wozniacki almost never plays to win points. See her first winner yesterday not being until like the 10th game or something. She doesn't construct points; she just has bad technique on her FH that manages to be effective. She literally waits for her opponents to make errors.

I am so sick of people saying Radwanska is a vulture, when Wozniacki was the TRUE vulture who ascended to #1 in the World. Radwanska is an under-powered player who would have flourished back in the day. Great control, excellent touch, good at the net. Very intelligent player. To see her doing so well warms my heart.

This. Definitely.

SoBizarre
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:20 PM
You can say what you prefer, but Radwanska is really a boring girl.

Thank you for sharing your opinion.

StoneRose
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:21 PM
This I have always said this about Radwanska she is very good coming forward, However she can push as well yesterday did not hit a single winner in a bagel set against jankovic which is worrying. I also agree with everything you said about caroline.Why would you try for winners if your opponent is unable to get a single ball between the lines? If you mean it's worrying for JJ then i certainly agree :lol:.

SwingVolley93
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:22 PM
This I have always said this about Radwanska she is very good coming forward, However she can push as well yesterday did not hit a single winner in a bagel set against jankovic which is worrying. I also agree with everything you said about caroline.

She hit 3 winners in the last set, 2 in the 40-0 game

And honestly with all the insults, can't someone just be happy for her, Jesus.

gumoll
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:22 PM
Aga :yeah:

good week for Julia :yeah:


This I have always said this about Radwanska she is very good coming forward, However she can push as well yesterday did not hit a single winner in a bagel set against jankovic which is worrying. I also agree with everything you said about caroline.


she had 3 winners ;)

BluSthil
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:23 PM
Goerges - Inconsistent, and way too many UE's. Hopefully, she will get 'battle hardened' and move up the rankings.

joy division
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:23 PM
Aga is in the form of her life, she is so solid.:worship:
This match was on Julia`s racquet, but she did not (yet) succeed.
But she can still improve, particularly in consistency.
Great week from Julia !:yeah:

Drake1980
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:23 PM
:bounce:

bbjpa
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:24 PM
Wozniacki is finally falling the rankings but the mini-Woz clone Radwanska is taking her place :spit:

edificio
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:25 PM
Well done, Aga! Great job of countering Julia's ball-bashing style and feasting on her errors. I enjoyed the match, just to see what Aga was going to do to get Julia to bash balls out. Julia is so impatient with herself, too. That doesn't help.

I enjoyed the match, but this thread is not very interesting. Sorry your fave lost, but Agnieszka is quite an interesting player. I love watching her and her poker face.

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:26 PM
Aga :yeah:

good week for Julia :yeah:





she had 3 winners ;)

Ok thanks I did not know that everyone said she hit none so I followed the flock so to speak.

s teddy
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:27 PM
Aga :cheer: Not her best tennis, but it was good enough. To think that she almost lost in the first round :eek:

FoxyliciousKhat
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:28 PM
Thank goodness Aga won, Julia is such a joke. :lol:

THIS!!!!

Foxy

Inger67
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:28 PM
Congrats Aga! Welcome to the top 5 :cheer:

Vikapower
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:29 PM
To see her doing so well warms my heart.

:zzz: Petra out, Vika out, what would have been her chances to win this event if her 2 nemesis were the draw ?

IW will be a very very good tournament can't wait to see who takes Act I in generation 'suck'.

No Serena, no Venus, no Clijsters -- it's all and only all between these 3 who are as for now heads and shoulders above the rest also Maria if she cares.

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:29 PM
Why would you try for winners if your opponent is unable to get a single ball between the lines? If you mean it's worrying for JJ then i certainly agree :lol:.

Because if you play someone who does not hit many winners either you will inevitable run yourself into the ground, yes jj imploded it was bad but its just boring tennis if you do not hit winners which is not good to watch but radwanska was better today.

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:30 PM
:zzz: Petra out, Vika out, what would have been her chances to win this event if her 2 nemesis were the draw ?

IW will be a very very good tournament can't wait to see who takes Act I in generation 'suck'.

No Serena, no Venus, no Clijsters -- it's all and only all between these 3 who are as for now heads and shoulders above the rest also Maria if she cares.

I wish petkovic was fit because she did well in the american hard court swing :sad: Bartoli has final points to defend as well she will be a factor.

treufreund
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:31 PM
It's so interesting to see Goerges being able to beat Wozniacki but continuously struggle against Radwanska. Especially since Caro and Aga have similar game styles. Julia's inconsistent game hampers her again...

Their games is not that similar at all. Aga moves the ball around and keeps it very low and takes it early. She also changes pace more, serves more accurately and has way better hands and anticipation. I watch the two players and love Aga's game like crazy because of her ability to get players out of position. Wozniacki has a game I respect but find dull. She grinds from the baseline and doesnt keep the ball low. She is tough physically but she is not smooth and she allows players to get into a rhythm. No offense but posts like yours freak me out a bit because I see vast differences in Caro's and Aga's games. I do realize that they both are non power players so that is really the main similarity.

StoneRose
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Because if you play someone who does not hit many winners either you will inevitable run yourself into the ground, yes jj imploded it was bad but its just boring tennis if you do not hit winners which is not good to watch but radwanska was better today.Takes two make a match interesting. JJ just couldn't do that in the 3th set, Aga just did what she had to do, going for risky shots yourself in such a situation is just foolish.

delicatecutter
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:31 PM
:zzz: Petra out, Vika out, what would have been her chances to win this event if her 2 nemesis were the draw ?

IW will be a very very good tournament can't wait to see who takes Act I in generation 'suck'.

No Serena, no Venus, no Clijsters -- it's all and only all between these 3 who are as for now heads and shoulders above the rest also Maria if she cares.

Isn't Petra injured? She is not so good on US HC. And it would be awesome if Aga could beat Vika but it's a tough match-up for her.

Holdsworth
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:31 PM
Well done, Aga :cheer: :worship: Wozniak was serving for the match in the first round -)

Direwolf
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:33 PM
Amazing!!
Radwanska will be number 1 in no time!!

Take control of it!!
Sharapova, Azarenka and Ducktova are all injured!!!
Youre prayers were answered.

*Nefertiti*
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:34 PM
The Beast beats the Beauty, and all is not right in the world :(

Very rude.

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Takes two make a match interesting. JJ just couldn't do that in the 3th set, Aga just did what she had to do, going for risky shots yourself in such a situation is just foolish.


yes but if shes playing someone more consistent and she can't hit winners she would lose because the ball gets shorter and shorter. She needs to sometimes hit a few more winners I said all this about caroline and she is now going downwards, I have a feeling aga will have a really good year like caroline did last year and then fall once people start to work her out, her saving grace will be if she continues to move forward and develop the net game more.

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Amazing!!
Radwanska will be number 1 in no time!!

Take control of it!!
Sharapova, Azarenka and Ducktova are all injured!!!
Youre prayers were answered.

Since when was maria injured?

Belmont Lad
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Lovely and solid performance from Aga today, a well deserved title! :hearts:

gaja kesari
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Congrats Agnieszka on the win and the title! Fantastic news.

Julia played extremely well at times. It was certainly closer than their AO encounter :)

Kworb
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:36 PM
Agnieszka :bowdown: you are truly amazing and the one pearl in a sea of human waste.

SoBizarre
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:39 PM
Wozniak was serving for the match in the first round -)

Party pooper! :ras:

Patrick345
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:40 PM
Drama

@Vika9 tweet

Are you happy now? :oh:









Okay I just made that up.

delicatecutter
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:41 PM
Aga definitely struggles against players like Wozniak, Peng, Cetkovska, and the like. I do think she is more likely to win a Slam than Caro. A lot will come down to a fortunate draw.

olivero
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:44 PM
Drama

@Vika9 tweet

Are you happy now? :oh:









Okay I just made that up.

:lol: for a second I thought that was real

dsanders06
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:45 PM
NID.

Goerges is just EXTREMELY dependent on her opponents. As I was saying yesterday, she has a field day when up against Wozniacki's moonballs that bounce up to infinity and beyond, but very few other decent opponents are going to give her those sorts of opportunities. The much flatter trajectory of Rad's shots (her 2nd serve aside) means Julia just doesn't get to line up for anywhere near as many "forehands of Doom" as she can against Woz, off of clay at any rate. Plus, although Radwanska is probably more underpowered naturally than Woz, she actually does create quite sharp angles off the no-pace balls that Julia was throwing in and exposes her poor movement (whereas yesterday, whenever Julia threw in a moonball or some other junk, Wozniacki would just counter with a pathetic moonball of her own).

Now we can all sit back for the next couple of weeks and enjoy the Radwanska tards talking up the "new Aga" and talking trash about her chances against Azarenka, Kvitova and Sharapova, until they come crashing back down to earth at Indian Wells :lol:

atominside
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:45 PM
who is ducktova?

Nicolás89
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:47 PM
This thread is overrun by Pova and Fakearenka fans, classic TF. :lol:

delicatecutter
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:47 PM
Some of us Aga fans know her strengths and weaknesses and aren't delusional. :shrug: See my previous posts.

StoneRose
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:48 PM
yes but if shes playing someone more consistent and she can't hit winners she would lose because the ball gets shorter and shorter. She needs to sometimes hit a few more winners I said all this about caroline and she is now going downwards, I have a feeling aga will have a really good year like caroline did last year and then fall once people start to work her out, her saving grace will be if she continues to move forward and develop the net game more.True but then she will go for more than she did against JJ. At least at this moment Aga has more game than Caro. More variation, more angles,more net game, she also hits flatter and gets most balls in a bit deeper than Caro does atm. That made it harder for Julia to hit through her consistently. And she can play against consistent players as well look at her score against Petko who's fairly consistent.

Against Vika it'll be tough also in the future but many of their matches are 3 setters too and sometimes Aga wins. Petra can hit her of the court but if Petra has a bad day who knows? Aga has just the game to take advantage of that. There's not so much pressure on Aga as there was on Caro, Aga probably won't be #1 and she may not win a slam. She probably knows this so she can just focus on where she's now.Barring accidents i don't see her falling out of top 10 anytime soon.

améliemomo
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:49 PM
wow Azarenka as n°1 and now Radwanska n°5, the tour is just :bs:

saul1333
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:53 PM
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Dado90
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Wozniacki is finally falling the rankings but the mini-Woz clone Radwanska is taking her place :spit:

This :worship:

flareon
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:54 PM
True but then she will go for more than she did against JJ. At least at this moment Aga has more game than Caro. More variation, more angles,more net game, she also hits flatter and gets most balls in a bit deeper than Caro does atm. That made it harder for Julia to hit through her consistently. And she can play against consistent players as well look at her score against Petko who's fairly consistent.

Against Vika it'll be tough also in the future but many of their matches are 3 setters too and sometimes Aga wins. Petra can hit her of the court but if Petra has a bad day who knows? Aga has just the game to take advantage of that. There's not so much pressure on Aga as there was on Caro, Aga probably won't be #1 and she may not win a slam. She probably knows this so she can just focus on where she's now.Barring accidents i don't see her falling out of top 10 anytime soon.

No I do not see her falling out of the top 10 anytime soon.

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:55 PM
It's so interesting to see Goerges being able to beat Wozniacki but continuously struggle against Radwanska. Especially since Caro and Aga have similar game styles. Julia's inconsistent game hampers her again...

they really don't have similar styles. woz loops the ball up with as much topspin as she can get from her horrible forehand grip and her balls bounce shoulder height most of the time. aga hits flat most of the time, she just has zero natural power, but her balls bounce much lower than caro's.

as for this result NID. aga just mixes it up better than caro and doesn't give julia the high balls she loves. clay is the only sureface i could see julia beating aga, just because the natural higher bounce would help her.

keep hogging to that top 3 ranking aga :hearts:

HuHu
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:55 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/2whkuf4.jpg

SoBizarre
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Aga definitely struggles against players like Wozniak, Peng, Cetkovska, and the like. I do think she is more likely to win a Slam than Caro. A lot will come down to a fortunate draw.

A year ago, most of tennis expert (and even her fans, I guess) didn't think she'll win ANY premier title ever again. And yes, she obviously needs No 4 rank and some luck, in order to make it into a major semi or a final.

Jimmie48
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Too bad for Julia but it was a respectable performance, much better than at the AO.

Making a final on HC is great, her time will come on clay :)

n1_and_uh_noone
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:03 PM
Goerges was really woeful at times, especially early in the 2nd. She cannot be so blind as to see that topspin deep to the corners is generally sufficient to push most players back, giving her time to line up a forehand.

Anyway, it is nice to see Radwanska's more enterprising mindset since the beginning of last year pay dividends, something Wozniacki can learn from. She is not hitting 20 mph faster or anything, she just takes more balls earlier, takes advantage of her strong serves or opponents' weak serves/rally balls and creates something out of it, changing direction, flattening some balls, slicing (even though most of them don't bite that much), sneak net attacks etc. This is ho you be aggressive when you cannot blast balls past opponents: you incorporate width and changes of height, and most importantly, try to do something of your own accord in rallies.

That said, she still reverts to defensive ways occasionally when her opponents look to threaten. But the more big matches she employs her opportunistic aggression in, the more she'll call upon it when it matters.

borrowedheaven
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:03 PM
For all this variety Aga is supposed to have -- I have seen almost nothing of it in her last two matches. Very few drop shots and slices. She used to be at least a fun point constructor, now she is just a pusher.

Jules really needs to work on that backhand. She is unable to play a crosscourt backhand without looping it up. But when her forehand is on fire, it is delightful to see.

Shvedbarilescu
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:04 PM
Their games is not that similar at all. Aga moves the ball around and keeps it very low and takes it early. She also changes pace more, serves more accurately and has way better hands and anticipation. I watch the two players and love Aga's game like crazy because of her ability to get players out of position. Wozniacki has a game I respect but find dull. She grinds from the baseline and doesnt keep the ball low. She is tough physically but she is not smooth and she allows players to get into a rhythm. No offense but posts like yours freak me out a bit because I see vast differences in Caro's and Aga's games. I do realize that they both are non power players so that is really the main similarity.

There is not a word here I don't agree with 100%. :yeah:

kow604
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:09 PM
welcome to top 5 radwanska, gl to you the rest of this season, you may not always be playing the best you can, but good players find ways to prevail when they do not always play well.....and i've got to say that the mental toughness aspect of your game is soaring, confidence will do this for you...you will make a grand slam semi this year, i said she could be top 3 by end of year and it really could happen. nice win enjoy your success

Johnbert
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:16 PM
http://i44.tinypic.com/2whkuf4.jpg

54, that was her problem, like most of the time :o

Apoleb
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:19 PM
For all this variety Aga is supposed to have -- I have seen almost nothing of it in her last two matches. Very few drop shots and slices. She used to be at least a fun point constructor, now she is just a pusher.



This is true, but Fluffwanska will get away with being an opportunistic parasitic fungus of the worst forms because a lot of tools will pretend that she's a flair-some player, when she's anything but. She can sometimes play a semblance of a smart game, but she's not good enough to be consistent at it, certainly not now when she's not even playing well.

Sure, she will occasionally construct a proper point, hit an angle or go for the open court unlike Wozniacki, but 95% of her game still relies on deft touch on the defense and her anticipation. She's an abominable ball striker, just as bad as Wozniacki, if not worse, cause at least the latter can hit with more weight. The way she flings herself and gives so much effort for every shot except that nothing comes out of it is unreal. Not only she lacks power (which is a given), but her placement is always ridiculous high % and away from the line, and she falters with her precision on tough shots like a bh dtl or whatelse.

Tennis Observer
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:20 PM
[...] Does this mean [goerges] is more secure in the top 20?
Julia re-entered Top 20 last Monday and will advance to a new career high at # 15 ranking spot on March 5th 2012. As 1,040 (= 38%) of her 2,725 ranking points came from three clay court events (W Stuttgart 2011, SF Madrid 2011 & QF Charleston 2011) she needs to be very successful the upcoming weeks to stay within Top 20 after PM Madrid 2012. But it goes without saying that a RU at a Premier event (and IMHO the way she played last week) helped her immense to achieve this goal.

Vikapower
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:21 PM
Isn't Petra injured? She is not so good on US HC. And it would be awesome if Aga could beat Vika but it's a tough match-up for her.

Petra is ill not injured ;) I think she should be fine for IW -- and I wouldn't be so sure, Petra will have a good IW I'm certain and I hope... :lol:

We need the 3 best players in the SF/F in IW right now (!) to put things clear -- Vika already put things clear with Radwanska (3 consecutive wins) but apparently needs to do it again, Petra will have to do it if possible and Vika/Petra will sort out their issues... it's the Act I of generation suck. :hearts:

We'll see if Radwanska will be able to withstand but I do hope these 3 make the SF/F, it needs to be like that no other way.

Talula
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:24 PM
Thank goodness Aga won, Julia is such a joke. :lol:

This + thank God Dubai is over.

Can we have a tournament now with the real top players playing please.

Simugna Help
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:31 PM
Petra is ill not injured ;) I think she should be fine for IW -- and I wouldn't be so sure, Petra will have a good IW I'm certain and I hope... :lol:

We need the 3 best players in the SF/F in IW right now (!) to put things clear -- Vika already put things clear with Radwanska (3 consecutive wins) but apparently needs to do it again, Petra will have to do it if possible and Vika/Petra will sort out their issues... it's the Act I of generation suck. :hearts:

We'll see if Radwanska will be able to withstand but I do hope these 3 make the SF/F, it needs to be like that no other way.

Radwanska is the worst of the three no doubt with no chances for either of the US trophies (there's always Charleston :help: ), but I hope she'll take April off and work on her game until Madrid. I feel she lost the first two matches this year because of inferior fitness more than anything, but in the third match Vika spanked her ass.

SwingVolley93
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:32 PM
Their games is not that similar at all. Aga moves the ball around and keeps it very low and takes it early. She also changes pace more, serves more accurately and has way better hands and anticipation. I watch the two players and love Aga's game like crazy because of her ability to get players out of position. Wozniacki has a game I respect but find dull. She grinds from the baseline and doesnt keep the ball low. She is tough physically but she is not smooth and she allows players to get into a rhythm. No offense but posts like yours freak me out a bit because I see vast differences in Caro's and Aga's games. I do realize that they both are non power players so that is really the main similarity.

:yeah:

Sir Stefwhit
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:40 PM
Really good first set of tennis! It tapered off a tad bit in the second but it was an entertaining match. Lady Aga continues to impress, I still can't figure out how she manages against the bigger hitters but her game is efficient. She takes advantage of short balls, has good depth, and keeps her UEs low. That's her winning formula and as of late she's been on fire. I still don't have confidence in her, but as long she's confident that's all that matters.

Jules didn't play a bad game. As with most big hitters u take ur chances so the UE count isnt too bad. She hit some brilliant shots and showed a lot of promise- she just needs a tad bit more patience and needs to play the bigger points a little better.

Let's see if they can keep this momentum going in the US hard courts next month...

fouc
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:42 PM
This I have always said this about Radwanska she is very good coming forward, However she can push as well yesterday did not hit a single winner in a bagel set against jankovic which is worrying. I also agree with everything you said about caroline.

she did hit 3 winners in this match, not that it changes much ;)
but he, she still hits MORE winners than wozniacki on average, even though her shots are a LOT weaker and Woz was #1 as far as I remember...

HuHu
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Ceremony :wavey:

JgF2IOChWLY

Irute
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:22 PM
Aga well done :yeah:

Sombrerero loco
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:29 PM
expected
so well done

fede33
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:37 PM
Thanks aga! good match,
and AWESOME week: 8º title, # 5, 300 match wins and #2 in race :worship::worship:
go on like this girl :kiss:

Trolls keep crying :lol::wavey:

zveeen
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:00 PM
Julia :sad:

But good week though!

NeKo
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:04 PM
sad day for tennis. Another pusher winning Dubai Open.

Simugna Help
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:48 PM
Ceremony :wavey:

[youtube]JgF2IOChWLY[youtube]

Gotta love Aga's responses.
"What was your strategy for today?"
"Yes you know for sure just fighting for every point"
"What did you change in the last 12 months to improve so much?"
"Yes you know for sure just fighting for every point"

She always answers like that :haha:

Skoo
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:49 PM
Why didn't Julia say anything? Has anyone seen that before?

Otlichno
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:03 PM
Why didn't Julia say anything? Has anyone seen that before?

I was at the tournament, Julia came to say a few words and Annabel was all "not you Agnieszka"! :sobbing: The problem was Anabel had no idea when the photos were supposed to be taking place or when the interviews were supposed to take place. :happy:

Skoo
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:09 PM
I was at the tournament, Julia came to say a few words and Annabel was all "not you Agnieszka"! :sobbing: The problem was Anabel had no idea when the photos were supposed to be taking place or when the interviews were supposed to take place. :happy:

Still, the runner-up talks first every time, why wouldn't she allow her to speak and send her back like that to her place? :shrug: I doubt she was that confused :)

Jimmie48
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:11 PM
Did that really happen? Wtf?

Skoo
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:12 PM
Did that really happen? Wtf?

Yes, see video above, 1:39.

Jimmie48
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:18 PM
Wow, that's really rude. It was her first big final after all, the runner up usually gets to say a few words.

Lord Choc Ice
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:22 PM
Julia :rolleyes:. Improvement on AO at least...

Skoo
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:33 PM
Wow, that's really rude. It was her first big final after all, the runner up usually gets to say a few words.

It's as big as Stuttgart :shrug: Anyway, I doubt they could have been so rude. Maybe Annabel messed up the schedule or something and they were in a big hurry :rolleyes:

marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 10:00 PM
Some of us Aga fans know her strengths and weaknesses and aren't delusional. :shrug: See my previous posts.

I read them and you are delusional. Hopelessly:lol:

Jimmie48
Feb 25th, 2012, 10:12 PM
It's as big as Stuttgart :shrug:

Yes, I forgot to add "on HC", sorry.

Skoo
Feb 25th, 2012, 10:18 PM
Yes, I forgot to add "on HC", sorry.

Yeah, big moment, impressive week, made most of the points in the final and doesn't get to say anything. How else? :lol:

Stonerpova
Feb 25th, 2012, 11:30 PM
Good week from Julia. She won the matches she should have. A good result like this on hard courts will be great for her confidence as she gears up for IW/Miami and then the clay season.

Well done to Radwanska, too. Good match :yeah:

Charlatan
Feb 25th, 2012, 11:46 PM
argh julia...but congrats, aga, anyway...bring it on for IW/Miami :devil:

The Kaz
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:16 AM
Aga should of lost in the 1R! :hysteric:

Cinek
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:40 AM
From *3-5 *30-30 with Woźniak in 3rd set in R1 to the title :hearts: Aga :hearts:

No Azarenka = Aga doesn't lose :)

Srodgers
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:13 AM
Great week Aga :yeah:

And congrats on title #8 :cheer:

Don McGurcock
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:49 AM
Aga could and should have beaten Julia easier than it was.. but still, well done, and best of luck in US

Super Dave
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:31 AM
*retch* *puke* :(

Brad[le]y.
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:35 AM
Aga should of lost in the 1R! :hysteric:

should have lost = still a win :angel:

joy division
Feb 26th, 2012, 07:39 AM
Aga could and should have beaten Julia easier than it was.. but still, well done, and best of luck in US

There are different ways to judge this match but your statement is odd.
Aga nearly played her very best possible tennis in this match, just a very few errors, very high first service percentage and getting back what she was able to. She did what she can do and she did it very well.
All respect to her qualities in keeping the ball in play and her ability to make her opponent move on the court but she was depending at 95 % on what Julia would produce next.
You can dispute the borderline between an unforced and a forced error but even when you didn`t see the match the stats are pretty unambiguous here.
The outcome of this match was actually not in her hands and in the end she was very happy to get out of this.
So you probably just moved some air while typing this comment, but I`d be interested to know on what your statement is based on.

CWTennis
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:32 AM
expected! Congrats Aga! :)

Aryman3
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:36 AM
Of course; Aga is just lucky that whenever she starts a match her rivals are inexplicably making tons of errors and their play dissipates
What a luckjy girl taking into account that sh'e mostly just a weaponless witness on the court

Joelina
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:08 AM
Julia :fiery: you beat Daniela in such a great match only to lose in final to Aga? :rolleyes: Julia should have won:help:

A-Bond
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:23 AM
Too bad Julia... I didn't expect her to reach the final anyway, but still always sucks when a fave loses a final. Especially if it puts your fave final YTD record to 1-3...

Anyway, it was a good week with very good wins. I hope she'll be able to win another title on clay.

Simugna Help
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:25 AM
There are different ways to judge this match but your statement is odd.
Aga nearly played her very best possible tennis in this match, just a very few errors, very high first service percentage and getting back what she was able to. She did what she can do and she did it very well.
All respect to her qualities in keeping the ball in play and her ability to make her opponent move on the court but she was depending at 95 % on what Julia would produce next.
You can dispute the borderline between an unforced and a forced error but even when you didn`t see the match the stats are pretty unambiguous here.
The outcome of this match was actually not in her hands and in the end she was very happy to get out of this.
So you probably just moved some air while typing this comment, but I`d be interested to know on what your statement is based on.

While I'd agree with most of what you said, the outcome was absolutely in Radwanska's hands. You can't say that Julia was in control of the match when her game led to being a set and double break down. Aga's game of disrupting Julia's rhythm worked for her which means that it was Julia who was forced to look for a different strategy. She stuck to hitting low percentage shots and while it worked better than in Melbourne, it still couldn't lead to a different outcome. Low percentage shots while pretty much unretrievable when they're in have a big probability of not going in. Judging by the two matches, it was Julia who had a good day yesterday, not Aga (who had her standard solid match but nothing out of ordinary).

RobinT83
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:12 PM
good result for the sport
:woohoo::worship::woohoo:

Expected result, obviously.
Agnieska is much better than that brainless ballbasher Hypeges.
In any case, Hypeges is on her way to beat the record of number of unforced errors of a player in one year at the end of 2012 (previous record? 2011: Jarmugla Garbagesova with 194628467429475927509375639 UES.

Don McGurcock
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:27 PM
There are different ways to judge this match but your statement is odd.
Aga nearly played her very best possible tennis in this match, just a very few errors, very high first service percentage and getting back what she was able to. She did what she can do and she did it very well.
All respect to her qualities in keeping the ball in play and her ability to make her opponent move on the court but she was depending at 95 % on what Julia would produce next.
You can dispute the borderline between an unforced and a forced error but even when you didn`t see the match the stats are pretty unambiguous here.
The outcome of this match was actually not in her hands and in the end she was very happy to get out of this.
So you probably just moved some air while typing this comment, but I`d be interested to know on what your statement is based on.


If I remember right Goerges served first, but was only ahead once in the match at 5-4 (which was back on serve). This was because Radwanska immediately broke in the first game, but allowed Goerges back in during the middle of the set.

When the scoreline was 5-4, Radwanska seemed to step it up, playing more aggressive tennis and took the next 3 games and the set. That is my recollection of the match and what I based my comment on.

I don't agree with your synopsis, Radwanska was in control of the match at almost all time throughout.

joy division
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:30 PM
While I'd agree with most of what you said, the outcome was absolutely in Radwanska's hands. You can't say that Julia was in control of the match when her game led to being a set and double break down. Aga's game of disrupting Julia's rhythm worked for her which means that it was Julia who was forced to look for a different strategy. She stuck to hitting low percentage shots and while it worked better than in Melbourne, it still couldn't lead to a different outcome. Low percentage shots while pretty much unretrievable when they're in have a big probability of not going in. Judging by the two matches, it was Julia who had a good day yesterday, not Aga (who had her standard solid match but nothing out of ordinary).

You figured out the sentence where I had doubts on my own when I read my comment after posting it.
Some words -
I didn`t want to state that Julia was in control of this match.
In contrary I would agree with you that Aga controlled the match.
In so far that she has a very good sense about her own and her opponents abilities and attitudes on court.
She can play nice stops and lobs and can really create spectacular shots by taking the power of the opponents stroke back to the other side. I like her way to play very much.
Moreover she can absolutely rely on her game in nearly every moment of a match. All that is in result of a steadily development over the last few years .
That`s why she is a Top 5 player right now.

In point of consistency Julia is the vastly inferior player here for several reason. It might be not just due to the fact that she an offensive player who usually struggle much more with that than defensive players.
But leaving that beside, is was at times pretty obvious yesterday`s match that Julia actually has the skills to clearly dominate whatever Aga would try to disrupt her rhythm.
When she still gets a little more consistency in her game ( what a little big problem !) imo she can and will beat Aga.
We might have a different opinion here.

It`s hard to talk about Aga having a good or a bad day in matches where it really counts, because she is so stable and confident these days. There might be not much difference in between.
I`d say she yesterday had at least an average day .
Aga herself said in the after match interview that she had to play her very best to beat Julia, but I do not know whether she was just polite.
Julia had a pretty good day considering her performances this year, but considering what she actually could put on the court considering her talent, it was in the best case average.

Gilas.
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:10 PM
Just watched the replay now. Typical hit and miss stuff from Julia, nothing new. And that moonball to Aga's backhand didn't work as beautifully as it did against the Woz. Aga didn't even play spectacular - just messed up Jule's rhythm by moving her side to side and alternating pace and spin.

Congrats on new career high ranking and title number 8 :cheer: now get the hell away from KL!!

rucolo
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:35 PM
Congrats for WTA title #8, Aga! :yeah:

Premier title #5 and new Career-High ranking #5 on Monday :D

Julia :hug:

Very successful week for Julia. Wins over Kuznetsova, Hantuchova and Wozniacki. Julia showed some high-quality tennis here. Her first appearance in Dubai and she reached the final immediately. Also the first German to play in Dubai final. Julia can be very proud of her week.

rucolo
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:41 PM
http://www.wtatennis.com/news/20120225/radwanska-conquers-dubai-secures-no5_2256076_2624094


Radwanska Conquers Dubai, Secures No.5

DUBAI, UAE - Agnieszka Radwanska was nearly gone in the first round but found a way to survive, and now she's the new champion at the prestigious Dubai Duty Free Tennis Championships - as well as the new World No.5.

The No.5-seeded Radwanska had a rocky start to the week, having to fight back from 5-3 down in the third set to beat Canadian qualifier Aleksandra Wozniak. But she made it through that and moved smoothly through the rest of the draw, the only blip coming in the semifinals against Jelena Jankovic, losing the second set - she rebounded well, bageling the No.8 seed in the third set.

Elsewhere, Julia Goerges was putting together one of the best weeks of her career in her very first time playing Dubai. She took out several marquee names - former No.2 Svetlana Kuznetsova, former No.5 Daniela Hantuchova and former No.1 Caroline Wozniacki - to make the final and get a chance to avenge a 61 61 loss to Radwanska in their only previous meeting, last month.

This time, Goerges played Radwanska much closer. Radwanska broke in the first game of the match and took a 4-2 lead, but Goerges broke back and stayed even to 5-all before Radwanska broke in a five-deuce game and took the set, 7-5; the story was similar in the second set, as Radwanska got two early breaks, Goerges got one back but Radwanska closed it out, 6-4. Final score, 75 64.

"I was pretty close to losing in the first round, so I'm extremely happy right now," Radwanska said. "Tonight I think I was just better in a couple points, to be honest. In the important moments I was more consistent. The conditions were a little bit difficult during the match, but I stayed calm until the end.

"Julia's forehand is a very big weapon. It's just going so fast, and sometimes I'd be moving to it right away and the ball was already behind me."

"Agnieszka's a tough player and I was close to winning both sets," Goerges said after the match. "There were a few balls I missed, but it was still the way I should play it. You need to dictate the game by yourself and that's what I did. It wasn't enough today but it was still the right direction for my game.

"She doesn't give you anything. She doesn't do any mistakes at all. And when she does a few, it's at 15-all or 15-0, not in the important moments."

Radwanska is projected to move from No.6 to No.5 now, a new career-high. "It's great, but it's still far rom being No.1," the Polish No.1 said. "It looks pretty close, but it's still far. But I'm not really going to think about it too much. I'm going to keep playing my game and try to keep up my good tennis, especially in big events like this. I just want to enjoy my tennis and try winning matches."

Goerges' phenomenal week will see her rise from No.19 back to her career-high of No.16. "I'm not disappointed. It was a big step in the right direction for me," the German said. "I was leaving everything on the court and she's a Top 5 player now. If you lose 5 and 4 in one hour 40, you shouldn't be disappointed. It gives me a lot of confidence to see I'm close to those players and can beat them. It was about two or three points in the end. I'm very proud of this week."

Radwanska collected her eighth WTA title, her fifth at the Premier level (also Eastbourne in 2008 and Carlsbad, Tokyo and Beijing in 2011); she is now 8-2 in her career in WTA finals. Goerges is now an even 2-2 in WTA finals.

What's next for Radwanska? "I don't have much time now. In three or four hours I have a flight to Kuala Lumpur," she said, referring to the BMW Malaysian Open. "Everything is pretty last minute. But I think it's a good problem!"

Mistress of Evil
Feb 26th, 2012, 02:12 PM
Queen Vulture :drool:

Simugna Help
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:00 PM
(...)

Julia did dominate in the rallies, her explosive forehand with that whipping move of the wrist generated enough pace to often push Radwanska 2 meters behind the baseline. However, it's the same story with Radwanska in almost every match that her opponent dominates in the rally (hence the conclusions on TF: "is more talented", "will no doubt win if she keeps UEs low" etc.) yet more often than not loses the point.

Julia kept the UE stats relatively low throughout the week and seemed rather patient in the match with Wozniacki, so there must be something Aga does which caused Julia (and Jankovic and Lisicki before that) to turn her into a UE machine. I think those two factors are disrupting rhythm which we already discussed and some actual counterpunching and sometimes even all out aggression and going for low percentage shots (not too often obviously, 3-4 times in a match), which seed doubt in the opponent and make them rush things.

All in all, while Julia is talented and could win with Agatha, it's not inevitable, since you could say the same about Petkovic who always stepped down defeated despite being close at times. Julia's shots are more explosive though and don't allow Aga to make any elaborate point construction she often does against Petko - she made very few net approaches yesterday and she likes to step into the court. It could be an interesting match up in the future if both girls continue to develop.

Corswandt
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:46 PM
Hilarious how bananas those Poles in the crowd go over Radwanska doing absolutely nothing on the court. :lol:

The way the crowd in Dubai reacted to the match was telling. Poletards for Agatha, everybody else pulling for Julinha. Sort of like TF. :tape:

Julinha just can't keep intensity and mental focus at even acceptable levels for any length of time. There are always patches in every match in which she doesn't even bother to think and/or move her feet. I suspect her mental and physical stamina are subpar, and this is just the way she manages her own level of effort/commitment - basically, by taking breaks to rest during the match. Probably doesn't help that the timing of her elaborate, wide swing strokes is so precarious, and that they require so many small adjustments to be in any way effective; it must be very taxing for her rudimentary footwork.

Remarkable that, for how tired she looked, for how poorly she played and for the shitload of wild errors she made, she might have won the match if she hadn't missed so many easy midcourt balls (I've read people blaming it on her grip, but it isn't that extreme - it's her swings and her poor footwork; she takes the ball late almost by default when she's moving forward, and there flies the ball into the doubles alley and beyond).

For all this variety Aga is supposed to have -- I have seen almost nothing of it in her last two matches. Very few drop shots and slices. She used to be at least a fun point constructor, now she is just a pusher.

Pretty much. Many on TF keep going on about Agatha's amaze variety, but these days 95% of her "shots" are puffballs that float down the middle of the court. Her shot placement is extremely conservative, alway has been. The main difference between the old Agatha and the Agatha we've been seeing since the Asian vulture swing is that Agatha is guiding the ball with a bit more spin now - she doesn't hit a heavier ball, since the purpose of that additional spin is merely to get higher clearance over the net and push the ball with an ever greater margin for error, and a side effect of this is that she is now guiding the ball with even less pace and depth than before. However, this also allows her to play just about any match while keeping UEs in the single digits. Plus some opportunistic mind games - incredible retrieving skills that allow her to gradually mine her opponents' confidence by having them miss easy midcourt putaways, strategic tanking to save herself for the next set once she realises her opponent is striking the ball too well for her to have a chance of hanging on with her until the storm passes.

Agatha's old game was very well suited to vulturing, this new one even more so.

See post quoted below - better written and in more detail.

This is true, but Fluffwanska will get away with being an opportunistic parasitic fungus of the worst forms because a lot of tools will pretend that she's a flair-some player, when she's anything but. She can sometimes play a semblance of a smart game, but she's not good enough to be consistent at it, certainly not now when she's not even playing well.

Sure, she will occasionally construct a proper point, hit an angle or go for the open court unlike Wozniacki, but 95% of her game still relies on deft touch on the defense and her anticipation. She's an abominable ball striker, just as bad as Wozniacki, if not worse, cause at least the latter can hit with more weight. The way she flings herself and gives so much effort for every shot except that nothing comes out of it is unreal. Not only she lacks power (which is a given), but her placement is always ridiculous high % and away from the line, and she falters with her precision on tough shots like a bh dtl or whatelse.

stevos
Feb 27th, 2012, 01:32 PM
See post quoted below - better written and in more detail.

Better written? So now spouting lame insults and being a dick is considered thoughtful and quality writing on tennis?
As much as you want to try and eloquently cut down Aga's game to bare pushing, I'm not buying it.

At least have some respect for the fact she's winning plenty of tournaments with her current form. I hate to play the "well they didn't win so they must not be as in form/mentally strong", but really, isn't that almost always the case? No matter how displeasing her game is to you guys.

Apoleb
Feb 27th, 2012, 02:09 PM
Better written? So now spouting lame insults and being a dick is considered thoughtful and quality writing on tennis?
As much as you want to try and eloquently cut down Aga's game to bare pushing, I'm not buying it.

At least have some respect for the fact she's winning plenty of tournaments with her current form. I hate to play the "well they didn't win so they must not be as in form/mentally strong", but really, isn't that almost always the case? No matter how displeasing her game is to you guys.

As opposed to... saying absolutely nothing of substance? Do us all a favor and go stan for Maria, Stephos. :lol:

Viktymise
Feb 27th, 2012, 02:14 PM
As Corswandt said, the crowd reactions for Ratwanska throughout said it all. Nobody wants to pay to watch that brand of "tennis".

Aryman3
Feb 27th, 2012, 02:38 PM
And this is why she was voted WTA fans player of the year

Excelscior
Feb 27th, 2012, 03:10 PM
And this is why she was voted WTA fans player of the year

Must of been a strong Polish vote/posse? :confused: :) :confused:

Simugna Help
Feb 27th, 2012, 03:17 PM
Must of been a strong Polish vote/posse? :confused: :) :confused:

I don't think so. Radwanska lost in popularity contest poll on onet.pl (the biggest Polish website by far) with a volleyball player, a team sport that's not massively popular here. I don't think Polish facebook users skewed WTA's poll, I don't see why only poles would vote on their compatriot(s) anyway.

fede33
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:29 PM
As Corswandt said, the crowd reactions for Ratwanska throughout said it all. Nobody wants to pay to watch that brand of "tennis".
http://gulfnews.com/polopoly_fs/besides-the-tennis-agnieszka-radwanska-also-enjoys-posing-for-the-camera-1.981672!image/1917392282.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_475/1917392282.jpg

keep crying :bigwave::bigwave: