View Full Version : Who is the most talented current German player?

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:21 PM
Who do you think has the most talent of these girls, i.e. the goods to win a Major title?

Simugna Help
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:23 PM
Don't know about major winning potential, but I like Angelique's combination of court craft and power the most.

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:25 PM
I'm torn between Kerber and Goerges but I like a lot about both of these ladies.

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Andy. :sad:

King Halep
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:35 PM
Li$ucki :hearts:

Petko too mechanical

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Lisicki at Wimbledon or Goerges at the French.

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:38 PM

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:40 PM
It's between Goerges and Kerber. Petko puts in the work, but not a supreme talent. Lisicki - who knows...

Break My Rapture
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:42 PM
1) Görges
2) Kerber
3) Lisicki
4) Barthel
5) Petkovic

Tennis Fool
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:42 PM
Barthel and Beck are missing from this list :shrug:

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:47 PM
Changes from week to week, from surface to surface. If you ask me, who´ll be ranked the higehst on average over the next five years, it is easily a healthy Petkovic.

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:52 PM
If anyone is watching the Dubai final, this first set alone shows why I voted for Goerges. She's a fighter. :worship:

Feb 25th, 2012, 03:54 PM
Barthel and Beck are missing from this list :shrug:
I don´t think, that that many people know Annika, so she wouldn´t get many votes.
She did not make any impact on the WTA-Tour yet.

Feb 25th, 2012, 04:39 PM
Petko, maybe Angelique but haven't seen enough matches from her. Sabine and Julia are too inconsistent.

Feb 25th, 2012, 04:49 PM
Petkovic is easily the least talented of them. I think Kerber has the most natural talent for tennis.

Feb 25th, 2012, 04:58 PM

Feb 25th, 2012, 05:03 PM
The are all close, non of them really stands out, they just different.
top10 is really possible for all with a good year or two.
Cant see them constantly threatening slams, might have 1-2 great runs, like Lisicki last year Wimbledon.

Feb 25th, 2012, 05:04 PM
LISICKI on grass
Kerber on HC
Goerges on clay

Feb 25th, 2012, 05:04 PM
Very close between Petkovic, Goerges and Kerber but I think Kerber can do the most things on a tennis court well so I gave her the nod.

Feb 25th, 2012, 05:16 PM
I think Kerber deserves it more cause her tennis is more fun to watch. A mix between amazing athleticism and controlled aggression when she is on, but then she lost to pironkova last week not on grass, so...yeah, definitely not guaranteed.

Lisicki I would also like to win, but she can only win wimbledon with her game, and I want kvitty to dominate that for the next 10 years:oh:

Feb 25th, 2012, 07:17 PM
Fuck.. Where is Barthlel ??? :( You should close this poll
1.Barthel, 2.Goerges, 3.Kerber, 4.Petkovic, 5.Lisicki.

Feb 25th, 2012, 07:33 PM
1) Barthel
2) Kerber
3) Goerges
4) Lisicki/Petkovic

Feb 25th, 2012, 07:51 PM
Is this a real question? Mona of course! :angel:

Feb 25th, 2012, 08:08 PM
they're all pretty average. put sabine's serve with julia's forehand on petkovic's body, now you've got something.

Feb 25th, 2012, 08:27 PM
They are hard workers, that's for sure. I should think Lisicki has the best chance of a Slam, assuming she can make even more of her serve and not lose service games left and right, then Goerges at RG. Their peaks are probably higher than Petkovic's, though she'll probably (when healthy) maintain the best ranking of the bunch. Not sure about Kerber at this point. Would probably put her in the Petkovic category.

King Halep
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:35 PM
JuGgs body, Bine's personality, Andrea's intelligence :drool: :drool:

Feb 25th, 2012, 08:50 PM
I think Julia will be able to maintain the highest ranking position while Sabine is most likely to win a slam (Wimbledon).

Sabine is too much of a headcase to have consistent results while Petkovic lacks the ability to peak at the right moments. Julia on the other hand can peak at the right time (like this week or at Stuttgart) and she seems more stable mentally than Sabine...which isn't that hard considering that Sabine has the mental stability of a house of cards lately..

Both Sabine and Petkovic are also pretty prone to injury while Julia isn't as much. That's why I see her do best in the long run...

Feb 25th, 2012, 08:51 PM
I think Julia and Mona. Petkovic and Kerber are alright but I don't see one specific thing about their game that is spectacular. Julia has the big forehand and serve as weapons, Mona has accuracy and fluid strokes. Lisicki has a fast serve but no variety and she is brainless. Sorry to say.

Feb 25th, 2012, 08:59 PM
In terms of talent, I consider Angelique Kerber and Mona Barthel really talented. They can both do whatever they want with the ball, and it looks so natural to watch!

Petkovic for sure is the least talented. Her style is simply mechanic. The same for Lisicki, but Sabine seems more natural while playing.
As for Goerges... uh, half and half.

King Halep
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:06 PM
This poll is a Mess! Last week JuGgs would have been right down the bottom, suddenly she is greatly talented, stable mentally and consistent

Feb 25th, 2012, 09:12 PM
This poll is a Mess! Last week JuGgs would have been right down the bottom, suddenly she is greatly talented, stable mentally and consistent


Exactly. You can go back and after Paris it would have been Kerber. After Hobart it would have been Barthel. After Beijing it would have been Petkovic. After Wimbledon it would have been Lisicki. After Stuttgart it would have been Goerges.

Feb 25th, 2012, 09:36 PM
Goerges, always has been the most talented in my opinion. Petkovic obviously the less talented, which means little since she is the highest ranked of all them.

Feb 25th, 2012, 10:07 PM
I love Petko but my answer is Mona Barthel.

Feb 25th, 2012, 10:40 PM

Feb 25th, 2012, 10:44 PM
Petko. And I think Mona Barthel can do something.

Feb 25th, 2012, 10:44 PM
1. Barthel.
2. Lisicki.
3. Goerges.
4. Kerber.
5. Petkovic.

Feb 25th, 2012, 10:46 PM
Lisicki looks to me to have the most weapons and most potentially destructive game. Unfortunately for Sabine, her mentality hasnt quite gotten to the level of her talent... but she has time.

Mentally, out of all the germans right now, I cant believe im gonna say it but Kerber. Her problem is she has a junior's serve.

Feb 25th, 2012, 10:54 PM
Speaking of raw TALENT IMO it's:

1- Goerges
2- Barthel
3- Kerber
4- Lisicki
5- Petkovic

Feb 25th, 2012, 10:57 PM
I guess they are all currently German, but you never know, especially with Petkovic.

Feb 25th, 2012, 11:42 PM
This poll is a Mess! Last week JuGgs would have been right down the bottom, suddenly she is greatly talented, stable mentally and consistent

That's TF for you, bandwagon-jumping 'til the end :lol:

Lisicki easily has the best shot of winning a Slam of these... she's probably going to be the 2nd best Wimbledon performer of Generation Suck (behind Kvitova obviously) and has a pretty good shot of winning that at some point, although I'd be surprised if she won any of the others.

Petkovic will probably be a perennial fourth-rounder/occasional QFist at Slams but there'll almost certainly always be a good few players left who are better than her at the sharp end of tournaments.

Goerges would need a VERY favourable draw and a LOT of luck to do it...can't be ruled out completely, this being the WTA, but very unlikely.

Kerber and Barthel are never going to even sniff a Grand Slam trophy, outside of TF posters' imaginations (and maybe their Xboxes) anyway :lol:

Feb 25th, 2012, 11:45 PM
Julia has no talent. She's a clown on all surfaces. Completely brainless and dependent on her elongated stroke production. She has no slam-winning potential.

The most talented one is Lisicki, who is also very horrible but Sabine has the biggest game and the most hope. With age, experience, and a lot of time developing her ability to rally, Lisicki could actually not be local in a few years.

Julia is nothing more than a German Rezai. She's not a threat to anyone except Borz because her moonballs can't take advantage of Julia's huge swings.

Feb 26th, 2012, 12:26 AM
To be honest, I don't think any of the mentioned are screaming talent. They put a lot of effort to be where they are and they deserve a great amount of respect for that, but talent? I don't think so.

Feb 26th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Barthel, and I think by quite a lot.
Then Lisicki, then Kerber/Goerges, Petkovic is last.

Feb 26th, 2012, 12:39 AM

Feb 26th, 2012, 12:46 AM
I voted for Kerber, I saw her win the title in Paris two weeks ago, I saw the final and her match against Sharapova. In fact, I had been looking forward to seeing Kerber live for some time, I like her game a lot, and I think she has a lot of potential. I like the fact that she can play counterpuncher and be a shotmaker with almost equal ability, that's good to see. She also signed my final ticket :-)

There is one area I think Kerber can become a much better player, her serve on the ad court can have a lot more swing than it currently does, she has to practice getting more slice and getting more angle, that would make her lefty serve devastating if she can do that consistently.

I also saw Georges in Paris two weeks ago and I like her game as well. But Georges really needs to cut down on those unforced errors, she goes for the wrong shot often at the wrong moment. And like so many two handers, Georges is simply not prepared to bend her knees and slice low balls, preferring often to go for winners which are very low percentage, that is a huge tactical problem she will have to solve very soon with her coach.

Also, Georges has trouble with low balls on the forehand side, shanking them often in the mid court when going for the transition game, Georges has to be prepared to make quick grip changes in the mid court for more safety and to make her game effective. Georges has potential though.

So does Lisiki. But Lisiki suffers what I call the Andy Murray syndrome, which is a very fast and good first serve, and a sometimes laughable slow, middle of the box second serve. A top player cannot afford to have such a discrepancy between first and second serve so Lisiki has to work on having a much better second serve. Also, Lisiki lays off her shots a lot, I assume that must be nerves and tension, Lisiki needs to trust herself and hit through the ball more often. She could win Wimbledon if she gets everything working properly for long enough.

Petkovic is not my favourite player for sure, but she is one hell of a fighter, which I like. Petkovic needs to improve her serve to be a top 10 player. Petkovic also has an extreme grip on the forehand, but Georges is able to make things happen on her forehand, I don't see that with Petkovic. I don't see Petkovic as a contender for major titles, but she could do a great run at a tournament like Roland Garros which throws up more surprises than the other major tournaments often.

Feb 26th, 2012, 12:53 AM
I should add I haven't seen Barthel yet, live or on televison to make an assessment.

Feb 26th, 2012, 12:53 AM
Goerges and Barthel. All the others just play for Germany
One thing common - they were beaten this year by Radwanska

Feb 26th, 2012, 01:06 AM
1) Lisicki: She just has the biggest weapons, not too many weaknesses, moves okay, she just has to stay healthy and play smarter from time to time, not going for too much all the time.
2) Petkovic/Kerber: they do both have good all-round games without many weaknesses, they can hit winners, Petko is hitting a little harder, Kerber is the better in the defense. They can both play with a lot of control but still offensive. Kerbers serve is a little weak but she copes quite well with it and Petko needs to get her head together on the real big matches.
3) Görges/Barthel: Görges has an extraordinary forehand, good serve, but her backhand is a mess and her movement isn't good. Also her huge swings cause her problems against certain players. Barthel has a nice fluent technique, a good serve and moves very well for her height, backhand is good, forehand can be very shaky and a weakness. But she maybe has a better game against the top players than Görges.

Barthel and Beck are missing from this list :shrug:

If you include "young guns" like Beck you also can include Witthoeft who is easily more talented than Beck ;)

Feb 26th, 2012, 01:58 AM
I think Kerber takes the biscuit here talent-wise, with Goerges not far behind :)

Feb 27th, 2012, 01:54 AM

Martian Jeza
Feb 27th, 2012, 02:42 AM
Saw Barthel play during the Australian Open, that girl has potential without a doubt !

I'd say Lisicki has the best game but this season isn't turning well for her : health problems ? Personal problems ?

Julia has a good game but she should work on a much better mental and cutting the amount of errors she commits.

Petkovic and Kerber have for me very weird games : not that pleasing for the eyes but if it's working for them, well congrats to them

Feb 27th, 2012, 03:22 AM

Mar 24th, 2013, 01:16 AM

The most talented German isn't even among the poll options. Fail thread.

Mar 24th, 2013, 01:31 AM
Tough question. If Goerges and Lisicki weren't so inconsistent. If Petko wasn't so injury prone my answer might be different, but I have to go with Kerber. R/U Barthel.

I still miss Steffi.