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SAISAI-GOAT
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:34 PM
so far in 2012 the only player that has beaten Lady Aga is Vizieress Aga :eek:

it seems the rest of the SEWTA just can't seem to figure out the new error-less Lady Aga :scared:

ballbashers like Mattek-Sands, Wozniak, Jankovic have had her on the ropes but cannot finish her :sobbing:

in fact, since losing to her BFF Kerber @ 2011 USO, Aga has lost only to Lucie (well she had alot of pressure in that match trying to qualify for Istanbul), Karolina, Petra and Vika :eek:

and now she has the attitude to go along with being a top player :bounce:

for sure she will be #2 behind Vika later this year ... she is barely defending any points before Tokyo ... if Vika has an injury she may even be our new #1 :inlove:

Sammo
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:35 PM
Oh God for a second there I thought that this was really going to happen after Dubai.

Simugna Help
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:36 PM
She might reach #2 at some point but then she'll lose most of the Asian swing points.

flareon
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:37 PM
Aleks wozniak is not a ballbasher...

fouc
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:40 PM
:p

Gilas.
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:43 PM
not if she keeps losing before slam QFs she won't.

saul1333
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:44 PM
tt

SAISAI-GOAT
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:44 PM
the 1st SEWTA #2 player without a slam SF :sobbing:

what is the highest a player has ever been ranked without a slam SF :shrug:

Cinek
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:44 PM
Aga :hearts:

Stonerpova
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:45 PM
She's not even playing well right now :weirdo:

Simugna Help
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:49 PM
She's not even playing well right now :weirdo:

She's become a fantastic match player though. A year ago she could string together 3-4 games of spectacular tennis and fade away after that. Now she's more calm and tactical.

sammy01
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:52 PM
not if she keeps losing before slam QFs she won't.

you obviously don't know the wta's quantity over quality ranking system.

i have been saying since she won beijing and tokyo back to back she would vulture hard given that platform of points and be top 3.

she got 1900 points from beijing and tokyo that is 100 points less than reaching all 4 slam qtr finals points wise. she doesn't need to go deeper in slams, just look at caro :help:

SAISAI-GOAT
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:52 PM
the 1st SEWTA #2 player without a slam SF :sobbing:

what is the highest a player has ever been ranked without a slam SF :shrug:

wait it must be whatever Vika was ranked before Wimbledon 2011 :lol:

Berlin_Calling
Feb 24th, 2012, 04:53 PM
It'll be the death of tennis if this pusher with the frying pan forehand ever makes it to the top 2 :facepalm:

SwingVolley93
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:02 PM
This is obviously a jinx thread..one of the many that NA-MUG produces.

sweetadri06
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:05 PM
It doesn't mean anything even if she does get to number 2. Good luck to her.

fouc
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:08 PM
This is obviously a jinx thread..one of the many that NA-MUG produces.

one can only hope so

Petronius
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:12 PM
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duhcity
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:17 PM
you obviously don't know the wta's quantity over quality ranking system.

i have been saying since she won beijing and tokyo back to back she would vulture hard given that platform of points and be top 3.

she got 1900 points from beijing and tokyo that is 100 points less than reaching all 4 slam qtr finals points wise. she doesn't need to go deeper in slams, just look at caro :help:

What exactly should a slam QF mean then?

One can reach the QF's EASILY without facing a player in the top 20. Your slam centric idea should be a slam winning centric idea.

Maruuusya
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:20 PM
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:yeah:

sammy01
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:33 PM
What exactly should a slam QF mean then?

One can reach the QF's EASILY without facing a player in the top 20. Your slam centric idea should be a slam winning centric idea.


for me a slam qtr final means so much more than winning tokyo, yet points wise tokyo is on the same level as making a semi final.

i mean woz and aga have both won tokyo and beijing back to back and collected 1900 points for it, that is 100 less than winning a slam, which both haven't looked anywhere near capable of.

olivero
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:39 PM
Hopefully she'll reach GS SF first

Steven.
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:40 PM
Oh God for a second there I thought that this was really going to happen after Dubai.

lol omg this. Death to the WTA.

Gilas.
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:42 PM
you obviously don't know the wta's quantity over quality ranking system.

i have been saying since she won beijing and tokyo back to back she would vulture hard given that platform of points and be top 3.

she got 1900 points from beijing and tokyo that is 100 points less than reaching all 4 slam qtr finals points wise. she doesn't need to go deeper in slams, just look at caro :help:

Hmm that's actually a very good point :) But I sincerely doubt she'll reach number 2 with "vulturing" only. She will need to win majority of the mandatories and premier 5s to do that. And for all the flak that Woz got as a false number 1, she AT LEAST got 2 slam semis in her ranking.

flareon
Feb 24th, 2012, 05:42 PM
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:lol: how I miss all three of these.

Stonerpova
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:06 PM
one can only hope so

:lol:

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Step.

adner
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:06 PM
She has a chance to raise to #2 in Race if she wins tomorrow.

sweetadri06
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:09 PM
Aga is going to pass Caro very soon, and she deserves that atleast.

delicatecutter
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:10 PM
Couldn't happen to a nicer girl! :hearts:

Vikapower
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:10 PM
As far as the regular tour is concerned, Radwanska is clearly world #2 but how will she fair when Petra and Maria returns well we'll see but she should get multiple beat downs IMO.

Simugna Help
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:17 PM
As far as the regular tour is concerned, Radwanska is clearly world #2 but how will she fair when Petra and Maria returns well we'll see but she should get multiple beat downs IMO.

She will get destroyed at some point in IW/Miami thanks to the retarded scheduling.:lol: But I think on clay she might be more competitive.

dsanders06
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:20 PM
She will get destroyed at some point in IW/Miami thanks to the retarded scheduling.:lol: But I think on clay she might be more competitive.

No way - her flat puffballs stop dead on clay after the bounce and will be eaten up by any competent ballstriker :lol:

She's going to have to wait til Wimbledon for even a vague shot at a Slam semifinal, and even that's only if she gets a kind draw.

Teseo
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:29 PM
You are forgetting Sharapova and Kvitova who were, are and will be always better than "Lady Aga".

doomsday
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:35 PM
She is a BYE for the top 3 anyway. Next

Linguae^
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:41 PM
And she would simultaniously become Vika's bitch.

Ryan
Feb 24th, 2012, 06:57 PM
Good for her. She's been incredibly consistent, and its nice to see her type of game have success. She probably won't ever win a Slam, but whats wrong with her getting to the Top 3? Her tournament results have been pretty awesome this past year.

Mistress of Evil
Feb 24th, 2012, 07:16 PM
Agatha's body will completely fall apart if she is to go on playing so much matches.

M.P
Feb 24th, 2012, 07:17 PM
She is consistent because she didn't meet Maria,Petra,na,Serena,Venus,Kim, all who own her freaking easy

Charlatan
Feb 24th, 2012, 07:32 PM
This is obviously a jinx thread..one of the many that NA-MUG produces.

:haha:

danieln1
Feb 24th, 2012, 07:37 PM
I like to watch her play, but there will ALWAYS be a power player(Kvitova, Sharapova, Serena) or power grinder (Azarenka, Fiona) and even a pusher (Caro :oh: to stop her in a slam QF nowadays......

VIKA?
Feb 24th, 2012, 08:11 PM
Bad for tennis if this happens.

adner
Feb 24th, 2012, 08:34 PM
Bad for tennis if this happens.

Azarenka won a Slam, nothing worse can happen :lol: j/k

Brad[le]y.
Feb 24th, 2012, 08:40 PM
I stopped reading after he called Jankovic a ballbasher :spit:

Ferg
Feb 24th, 2012, 08:50 PM
:facepalm:

Break My Rapture
Feb 24th, 2012, 08:52 PM
Vizieress Vika is actually a cool nickname. Well done NA-MUG.

Break My Rapture
Feb 24th, 2012, 08:57 PM
Couldn't happen to a nicer girl! :hearts:
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killerqueen
Feb 24th, 2012, 09:01 PM
Worse things have happened. She's gathered a pretty decent set of results over the last few months and at the very least brings something different than bashing the ball to hell. It'd be nice if she could go the extra bit further in a slam though...

atominside
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:04 PM
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NeKo
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:06 PM
Radwanska is a pusher. She must stay away from top 10 so there will be no boring tennis.

Brad[le]y.
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:12 PM
Radwanska is a pusher. She must stay away from top 10 so there will be no boring tennis.

well tough luck because she's already in there.

Hurley
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Radwanska is a pusher. She must stay away from top 10

:facepalm:

Javi.
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:17 PM
Radwanska is NOT a pusher. Not being a brainless ballbasher doesn't mean being a pusher :facepalm:
Her game is a joy to watch and hope she keeps climbing in the ranking as high as posible. :hearts:

Brad[le]y.
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:21 PM
Radwanska is NOT a pusher. Not being a brainless ballbasher doesn't mean being a pusher :facepalm:
Her game is a joy to watch and hope she keeps climbing in the ranking as high as posible. :hearts:

I think she does push when she gets overpowered but is working on being more aggressive. I agree she is fun to watch :hearts:

Lord Choc Ice
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:25 PM
Jinx thread! :hearts:

Not that she needs it. Hagatha ain't getting close to that #2 spot.

Charlatan
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:40 PM
Couldn't happen to a nicer girl! :hearts:

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Miracle Worker
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:43 PM
At least it won't be the worst thing in WTA. The WTA somehow survived worse things.

And she's still working to play better.

plokploky
Feb 24th, 2012, 10:56 PM
The way radwanska is playing now is pretty boring to watch, but in my view she is in a comparative slump to the tennis she was playing in asia. Now that is the aga I want to see again.

Matt01
Feb 24th, 2012, 11:09 PM
for me a slam qtr final means so much more than winning tokyo, yet points wise tokyo is on the same level as making a semi final.


And did you ever praise Woz for not only reaching Slam qrt finals but even Slam semis? No!

Instead did you make constantly fun of Woz for "vulturing tournaments no one cares about" like Tokyo and Bejing because these are the tournaments that Caro had a lot if success in? Yes!

Your hypocrisy really knows no bounds. :help:

Matt01
Feb 24th, 2012, 11:17 PM
Worse things have happened. She's gathered a pretty decent set of results over the last few months and at the very least brings something different than bashing the ball to hell. It'd be nice if she could go the extra bit further in a slam though...


I agree with this.

Sir Stefwhit
Feb 24th, 2012, 11:23 PM
I love watching her play..watching her serve is painful, but other than that she's got a great game. I never have confidence in her but she seems to somehow find a way. I love big babe tennis, but I also appreciate what Lady Aga brings to the game- variety is the spice of life!

SwingVolley93
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:13 AM
I love watching her play..watching her serve is painful, but other than that she's got a great game. I never have confidence in her but she seems to somehow find a way. I love big babe tennis, but I also appreciate what Lady Aga brings to the game- variety is the spice of life!

:yeah:

C. Drone
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:11 AM
would be symbolic Queen Viktória´s biggest bitch following her on the ranking. :spit:

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:53 AM
And did you ever praise Woz for not only reaching Slam qrt finals but even Slam semis? No!

Instead did you make constantly fun of Woz for "vulturing tournaments no one cares about" like Tokyo and Bejing because these are the tournaments that Caro had a lot if success in? Yes!

Your hypocrisy really knows no bounds. :help:


only woz fans celebrate making the qtrs/semi at a slam when she is the NUMBER 1 IN THE WORLD! i mean going into 6 slams as the number 1 seed and not even making a final, does that deserve praise? only in woz fans heads.

if she was ranked 7-10 where she should be and made slam qtr/semi finals, good on her, but it only shows how you truely view woz's abilities if you celebrate slam qtr finals and semis.

the only hypocrite is posters who went on and on calling her the best player and deserving number 1, but then when it came to slams were happy with average top 10 player results.

Matt01
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:29 AM
only woz fans celebrate making the qtrs/semi at a slam when she is the NUMBER 1 IN THE WORLD! i mean going into 6 slams as the number 1 seed and not even making a final, does that deserve praise? only in woz fans heads.

if she was ranked 7-10 where she should be and made slam qtr/semi finals, good on her, but it only shows how you truely view woz's abilities if you celebrate slam qtr finals and semis.

the only hypocrite is posters who went on and on calling her the best player and deserving number 1, but then when it came to slams were happy with average top 10 player results.


Either she is a deserving number one and then should be criticised for not winning Slams, or she is an undeserving number but then at least deserves praise for the results you considered so highly in your other post.

You're contradicting yourself.

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:40 AM
Either she is a deserving number one and then should be criticised for not winning Slams, or she is an undeserving number but then at least deserves praise for the results you considered so highly in your other post.

You're contradicting yourself.


no i'm not because whether i think she should be ranked 1 or not, she was, thus was judged by the standards people expect of a number 1.

really she is a 7-10 ranked player and did very well to over achieve by making slam semis, though part of that was down to having the number 1 ranking thus the easiest draws and beating a number 1 adds an extra bit of pressure no matter how bad she is.

when she is down to #9 in the world and drawing li na, and vika just to make a slam semi we will see how often she makes it that far.

Matt01
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:46 AM
no i'm not because whether i think she should be ranked 1 or not, she was, thus was judged by the standards people expect of a number 1.

really she is a 7-10 ranked player and did very well to over achieve by making slam semis, though part of that was down to having the number 1 ranking thus the easiest draws and beating a number 1 adds an extra bit of pressure no matter how bad she is.

when she is down to #9 in the world and drawing li na, and vika just to make a slam semi we will see how often she makes it that far.


She was already making a Slam final and Slam semis when she wasn't the #1. And somehow she was also able to get to #1 without being seeded #1 at big tournaments. Sound all a bit like excuses to me.

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:03 AM
She was already making a Slam final and Slam semis when she wasn't the #1. And somehow she was also able to get to #1 without being seeded #1 at big tournaments. Sound all a bit like excuses to me.

she beat wickmayer and oudin to make the final, any top 20 player should do that. if a draw falls apart like that again any respectable top 20 player should make the final.

she got to number 1 thanks to serena getting injured, thus didn't play after wimbledon 2010 and woz entered a lot of tournaments from then on till she took the number 1 ranking in tokyo (or beijing cant remember which one) as the number 1 seed.

the higher ranked you are the easier your slam draw will be, kim beat more top 10 players this oz open than last years, yet lost in the semi finals this year and won last year.

woz was the ultimate vulture in not only normal tournaments but slams too, by making the most of her top seeding to advance futher than she would if she were seeded lower and had to face a good/great player earlier. her whole game and being relevant revolved around being number 1 and avoiding top players as much as possible. i mean how many top 10 players has she beat at slams in her career :help:

Matt01
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:07 AM
she beat wickmayer and oudin to make the final, any top 20 player should do that. if a draw falls apart like that again any respectable top 20 player should make the final.

she got to number 1 thanks to serena getting injured, thus didn't play after wimbledon 2010 and woz entered a lot of tournaments from then on till she took the number 1 ranking in tokyo (or beijing cant remember which one) as the number 1 seed.

the higher ranked you are the easier your slam draw will be, kim beat more top 10 players this oz open than last years, yet lost in the semi finals this year and won last year.

woz was the ultimate vulture in not only normal tournaments but slams too, by making the most of her top seeding to advance futher than she would if she were seeded lower and had to face a good/great player earlier. her whole game and being relevant revolved around being number 1 and avoiding top players as much as possible. i mean how many top 10 players has she beat at slams in her carrer :help:


More "easy draws", more "vulturing" and of course you are also leaving out that Wozniacki did beat a reigning Slam Champ to make the US Open final. :yawn:

No need to bother with you any further when it comes to Woz.

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:12 AM
More "easy draws", more "vulturing" and of course you are also leaving out that Wozniacki did beat a reigning Slam Champ to make the US Open final. :yawn:

No need to bother with you any further when it comes to Woz.

headcase sveta is her 1 decent win in slams and she has 60+ weeks at number 1 :help:. of course you wont bother with me when it comes to woz because you cant refute what i am saying. if your counter arguement for me saying the only reason woz was relevant was easy draws and whoring is to say she beat sveta once in a slam is pretty much telling.

matty
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:15 AM
To me she is an enigma . . . . . .

I just don't get how she does it.

mac47
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:10 AM
Aga is the most creative woman on the court today, a female Santoro.

I want Petra to be #1 after RG, but I don't mind if Aga wants to be #2 after her.

shoparound
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:52 AM
And watch her win the French Open...

MrJovani2293
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:56 AM
And watch her win the French Open...

Who????? Kvitova??? Or Radwanska???

Halepsova
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:02 AM
She will be the bitchiest SEWTA #2. :lol:

jameshazza
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:06 AM
so far in 2012 the only player that has beaten Lady Aga is Vizieress Aga :eek:

it seems the rest of the SEWTA just can't seem to figure out the new error-less Lady Aga :scared:

ballbashers like Mattek-Sands, Wozniak, Jankovic have had her on the ropes but cannot finish her :sobbing:

in fact, since losing to her BFF Kerber @ 2011 USO, Aga has lost only to Lucie (well she had alot of pressure in that match trying to qualify for Istanbul), Karolina, Petra and Vika :eek:

and now she has the attitude to go along with being a top player :bounce:

for sure she will be #2 behind Vika later this year ... she is barely defending any points before Tokyo ... if Vika has an injury she may even be our new #1 :inlove:

Stopped reading at this point.

Brad[le]y.
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:08 AM
Stopped reading at this point.

me too :sobbing:

Jankovic a ballbasher :spit:

thegreendestiny
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:43 AM
She will be the bitchiest SEWTA #2. :lol:

Countess Myskina disagrees

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marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:55 AM
Good for her. If she actually became no.1 several trolls on here would never get over it.:rolls:

marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:02 AM
only woz fans celebrate making the qtrs/semi at a slam when she is the NUMBER 1 IN THE WORLD! i mean going into 6 slams as the number 1 seed and not even making a final, does that deserve praise? only in woz fans heads.

if she was ranked 7-10 where she should be and made slam qtr/semi finals, good on her, but it only shows how you truely view woz's abilities if you celebrate slam qtr finals and semis.

the only hypocrite is posters who went on and on calling her the best player and deserving number 1, but then when it came to slams were happy with average top 10 player results.

LOL. You poor troll. It is so funny watching how you cannot get over her success.:lol:
SF,QF at slam is a reason to celebrate for any player.

Simugna Help
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:08 AM
LOL. You poor troll. It is so funny watching how you cannot get over her success.:lol:
SF,QF at slam is a reason to celebrate for any player.

That depends on the player's mentality I think. Some players come to tournaments with the goal of winning them and anything below is a failure, some just want to go deep and see how it goes from there (from QF/SF). Both attitudes have their pros and cons, depending on the situation.

marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:16 AM
she beat wickmayer and oudin to make the final, any top 20 player should do that. if a draw falls apart like that again any respectable top 20 player should make the final.

she got to number 1 thanks to serena getting injured, thus didn't play after wimbledon 2010 and woz entered a lot of tournaments from then on till she took the number 1 ranking in tokyo (or beijing cant remember which one) as the number 1 seed.

the higher ranked you are the easier your slam draw will be, kim beat more top 10 players this oz open than last years, yet lost in the semi finals this year and won last year.

woz was the ultimate vulture in not only normal tournaments but slams too, by making the most of her top seeding to advance futher than she would if she were seeded lower and had to face a good/great player earlier. her whole game and being relevant revolved around being number 1 and avoiding top players as much as possible. i mean how many top 10 players has she beat at slams in her career :help:

OMG, this is the most retarded post you have ever produced:haha:. So based on this theory of yours top 10 players are basically rubbish and vultures because they mostly face lower seeds in a draw.

I don't know if you actually understand logic of this sport. To be able to be a top seed a player has to win many tournaments. She never avoided top players, she faced them and beat them too which is why she was best in the world for so long.

You are trying to deny it in the most retarded ways possible but that doesn't mean that it was not true and she didn't deserve to be at the position she was. And it's highly likely that she'll get back there again.

marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:21 AM
That depends on the player's mentality I think. Some players come to tournaments with the goal of winning them and anything below is a failure, some just want to go deep and see how it goes from there (from QF/SF). Both attitudes have their pros and cons, depending on the situation.

Well,she always said she comes to any tournament with a goal to win it. That's why Wozniacki was no.1 for so long. Some other players who try hard only at slams and underestimate other events probably have the second type of mentality you described.

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:33 AM
OMG, this is the most retarded post you have ever produced:haha:. So based on this theory of yours top 10 players are basically rubbish and vultures because they mostly face lower seeds in a draw.

I don't know if you actually understand logic of this sport. To be able to be a top seed a player has to win many tournaments. She never avoided top players, she faced them and beat them too which is why she was best in the world for so long.

You are trying to deny it in the most retarded ways possible but that doesn't mean that it was not true and she didn't deserve to be at the position she was. And it's highly likely that she'll get back there again.

0-3 vs clijsters
0-3 vs serena
0-4 vs venus

wozniacki's greatest strength was being smart. she knows she is outmatched against half a dozen players, and another 6 she is never the favourite to beat. her best bet is to play as many tournaments as possible so she can have tournaments where she avoids these players. she padded her ranking with new havens, charlestons, brussels, tournaments she both knew offered cheap points and she wouldn't likely face these players.

truely great players know they can be ranked where ever and go into slams gunning for a win, not desperately hoping to avoid big names by being seeded as high as possible. they don't need to play needless tournaments to pad their ranking. even kvitova has already realised you play to win if you are confident enough to think you can and not care about the ranking (kvitova could have very easily been number 1 already if she truely wanted).

i find you calling me a troll a compliment, cus you are just a blinded fan boy :lol:

Simugna Help
Feb 25th, 2012, 08:37 AM
@marineblue - then not winning any slams must be a huge failure for Wozniacki. Besides, it's dubious Woz will regain #1 unless she vastly improves her game, which seems to have regressed in the last 12 months and her results really show it. This time last year she had won straight 4 tier 1 tournaments and went on to win the next one (IW), now her record in the last 4 T1s is R2 (Cincinatti), R3 (Tokyo), QF (Beijing) and R2 (Doha). At this rate she'll fall to #8-#10 range.

marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:01 AM
0-3 vs clijsters
0-3 vs serena
0-4 vs venus

wozniacki's greatest strength was being smart. she knows she is outmatched against half a dozen players, and another 6 she is never the favourite to beat. her best bet is to play as many tournaments as possible so she can have tournaments where she avoids these players. she padded her ranking with new havens, charlestons, brussels, tournaments she both knew offered cheap points and she wouldn't likely face these players.

truely great players know they can be ranked where ever and go into slams gunning for a win, not desperately hoping to avoid big names by being seeded as high as possible. they don't need to play needless tournaments to pad their ranking. even kvitova has already realised you play to win if you are confident enough to think you can and not care about the ranking (kvitova could have very easily been number 1 already if she truely wanted).

i find you calling me a troll a compliment, cus you are just a blinded fan boy :lol:

So she hasn't beaten part-timers who barely play. Means nothing at all. Hate to break this to you but I meant the active players who play full time not once in a blue moon.

Anyhow, all this obsessing with ranking of her opponents is ridiculous and funny how people who claim that rank does not reflect the quality ALWAYS use this non-argument about lower-ranked players to put Wozniacki's results down.:lol: It's getting old but I guess you cannot come up with anything better.

It doesn't surprise me that winning many events and achieving the top rank the harder way irks you so much. I see you are a Kvitova fan boy so that explains it:lol:Jealousy, jealousy...
Of course you are not bothered about the no.1:rolleyes: as it got so far from Petra's reach it's not likely that she'll get there anymore.:oh:

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:09 AM
So she hasn't beaten part-timers who barely play. Means nothing at all. Hate to break this to you but I meant the active players who play full time not once in a blue moon.

Anyhow, all this obsessing with ranking of her opponents is ridiculous and funny how people who claim that rank does not reflect the quality ALWAYS use this non-argument about lower-ranked players to put Wozniacki's results down.:lol: It's getting old but I guess you cannot come up with anything better.

It doesn't surprise me that winning many events and achieving the top rank the harder way irks you so much. I see you are a Kvitova fan boy so that explains it:lol:Jealousy, jealousy...
Of course you are not bothered about the no.1:rolleyes: as it got so far from Petra's reach it's not likely that she'll get there anymore.:oh:

accuse me of being a troll all you like, but calling me a kvitova fan boy is insulting :help: i don't like kviotova, never will.

oh and so called part timers have beaten woz at the last 2 slams, that blue moon seems to come round at the most important moments :lol:

marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:10 AM
@marineblue - then not winning any slams must be a huge failure for Wozniacki. Besides, it's dubious Woz will regain #1 unless she vastly improves her game, which seems to have regressed in the last 12 months and her results really show it. This time last year she had won straight 4 tier 1 tournaments and went on to win the next one (IW), now her record in the last 4 T1s is R2 (Cincinatti), R3 (Tokyo), QF (Beijing) and R2 (Doha). At this rate she'll fall to #8-#10 range.

It is not a huge failure. She has achieved so much already, why not winning one type of event would be a failure :rolleyes:? She'll need to put her game together and go back to what worked the best for her. If she had not bought into the nonsense about changing her style those results could have been better.
Anyway, I think it's normal that she had some downs too, she is not a machine and last two seasons must have been pretty draining.
Her time will come again in the second half of the season. She'll recharge her batteries and there'll be a lot of opportunities to gain points.

marineblue
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:14 AM
accuse me of being a troll all you like, but calling me a kvitova fan boy is insulting :help: i don't like kviotova, never will.

oh and so called part timers have beaten woz at the last 2 slams, that blue moon seems to come round at the most important moments :lol:

Not all comes down to Grand Slams even though they're the biggest events they only are a small part of the season.
Besides, tennis doesn't revolve about a handful of semi-retired players who only show up there. Well,not counting Venus.

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:18 AM
Not all comes down to Grand Slams even though they're the biggest events they only are a small part of the season.
Besides, tennis doesn't revolve about a handful of semi-retired players who only show up there. Well,not counting Venus.

yeah i mean they always invite the winner of brussels on the ellen degeners show. :tape:

don't kid yourself, slams are the sport of tennis, it wouldn't exist without them. the tour is built around the slams, or tournaments wouldn't build upto each slam on the same surface.

Matt01
Feb 25th, 2012, 11:45 AM
So she hasn't beaten part-timers who barely play. Means nothing at all. Hate to break this to you but I meant the active players who play full time not once in a blue moon.


The fact that my friend sammy even mentioned that H2H with Venus in this context only shows how completely clueless he is. :tape: :help:

Break My Rapture
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:05 PM
So she hasn't beaten part-timers who barely play. Means nothing at all.
Yes it does. For example Azarenka faced Clijsters four times, faced Serena thrice and faced Venus once since the start of 2010. They are part-time players that play 5 tournaments in a year yet Azarenka kept drawing them a lot. In the meantime Wozniacki avoided them more often that not (has she played like three times combined against those three players since the start of 2010?), so it DOES mean something. sammy01 has a point.

Matt01
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:10 PM
Yes it does. For example Azarenka faced Clijsters four times, faced Serena thrice and faced Venus once since the start of 2010. They are part-time players that play 5 tournaments in a year yet Azarenka kept drawing them a lot. In the meantime Wozniacki avoided them more often that not (has she played like three times combined against those three players since the start of 2010?), so it DOES mean something. sammy01 has a point.


No, he doesn't have a point because when you avoid those "top" (aka part-time) players more often it means that her H2H with those players is even less relevant and meaningful.

Viktymise
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:16 PM
even less relevant

Sounds like Failniacki to me.

Break My Rapture
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:18 PM
No, he doesn't have a point because when you avoid those "top" (aka part-time) players more often it means that her H2H with those players is even less relevant and meaningful.
You're completely missing it. The relevancy of their H2H is no what sammy01 is stressing about, he's talking about Wozniacki avoiding the top players (which happen to be the part-timers, sadly) through her #1 ranking.

bbjpa
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:20 PM
That can't be worse than Pushniacki #1 for so long :hysteric:

sammy01
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:22 PM
No, he doesn't have a point because when you avoid those "top" (aka part-time) players more often it means that her H2H with those players is even less relevant and meaningful.

really so her H2H with the 2 women (serena and kim) who have beaten her at 2 YEC's and 3 slams since 2009 are not relevant or meaningful :tape:

even you don't believe that bullshit. fact is those part timers that bare no relevance have beaten caro at the last 2 slams :wavey:

still obviously their H2H record will have no baring on whether caro wins new haven because serena and kim wont play it, but hey who cares about slams when you have new haven :tape:

Matt01
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:26 PM
Sounds like Failniacki to me.


Or you.


You're completely missing it. The relevancy of their H2H is no what sammy01 is stressing about, he's talking about Wozniacki avoiding the top players (which happen to be the part-timers, sadly) through her #1 ranking.


1. He explicitly mentioned the H2H with these player so of course he implied that these H2Hs and the fact that Woz has no wins against them is relevant.

2. Then blame those part-time players that they didn't play Woz more often and not Woz. :shrug: It's not like Woz doesn't play enough big tournaments so that she deliberatley avoids facing top players or something.

BepaMaria
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:39 PM
We shall wait and see. The only players she has played so far are Vika and scrubs. She has not faced Kvitova, Sharapova, Stosur, Zvonareva, Clijsters or Serena this year. If she does manage to beat them over the next few months, then this is worthy of a discussion.

However, at the moment she is just taking advantage of a period where all the elite players are on vacation and tournament whoring for points. The same goes for the Asian swing last year. I don't expect her to reach the semis at tournaments when all these players are playing, and I certainly don't expect her to ever reach #2 in the world either :shrug:

Teseo
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:43 PM
We shall wait and see. The only players she has played so far are Vika and scrubs. She has not faced Kvitova, Sharapova, Stosur, Zvonareva, Clijsters or Serena this year. If she does manage to beat them over the next few months, then this is worthy of a discussion.

However, at the moment she is just taking advantage of a period where all the elite players are on vacation and tournament whoring for points. The same goes for the Asian swing last year. I don't expect her to reach the semis at tournaments when all these players are playing, and I certainly don't expect her to ever reach #2 in the world either :shrug:

Zvonareva? Really? :help:

goldenlox
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:45 PM
I can see Aga as the next #1 this fall. She has a ton of points after Wimbledon and she plays a regular schedule. Right now, with Caro struggling, I think Aga has a very good chance at #1, even Year End #1, the way she's started 2012

Simugna Help
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:52 PM
I can see Aga as the next #1 this fall. She has a ton of points after Wimbledon and she plays a regular schedule. Right now, with Caro struggling, I think Aga has a very good chance at #1, even Year End #1, the way she's started 2012

She'll have career high ranking after Wimbledon because she has only ~1000 points to defend until then, but after that it's anyone's guess what's going to happen. Defending the Asian double trophy is highly unlikely, but improving on last year's American Summer season is probable.
I think she's a lock for appearance in Stambul, but beyond that I wouldn't make any assumptions.

Kworb
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:01 PM
Oh NA-MUG I hope you are right. Lady Aga would be the best #1 in years.

St.Sebastian
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:03 PM
To be precise, she is defending 1290 points until August (Carlsbad).
I would say she has a pretty good shot, provided she has a good Miami/IW, decent clay season and FO/Wimbledon/Olympics.

No.1 is out of reach, Azarenka took care of it in the first six weeks of 2012.

Viktymise
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:05 PM
Oh NA-MUG I hope you are right. Lady Aga would be the best #1 in years.

Don't you mean the best #1 of all time?

Monzanator
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Radwanska can only overtake Kvitova if the latter drops into Ivanovic-like slump in 2012 and I don't see that happening. Aggressive baseliners will always expose her weak 2nd serve, not to mention the standard game.

goldenlox
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Yeah, the way Vika is playing, maybe better to say good shot to get to #2.
But I wouldnt be surprised if Aga is the next #1. She'll probably need to have better slam results. But nonmajors, she's tearing it up for months

mac47
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:13 PM
Kvitova hasn't played much this year, but when she has, she has been playing up to her ranking, taking names at Hopman Cup and making semis, losing a squeaker to Maria at Melbourne. I have a hard time seeing Aga take her spot unless her health issues continue.

doujyr
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:33 PM
i really really really hope this doesn't happen :sobbing:

Break My Rapture
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:41 PM
I can see Aga as the next #1 this fall. She has a ton of points after Wimbledon and she plays a regular schedule. Right now, with Caro struggling, I think Aga has a very good chance at #1, even Year End #1, the way she's started 2012
Newsflash: Wozniacki turned 21 and is not #1 anymore. Sourwanska is not getting near that #1 ranking, nor #2 for that matter.

Kworb
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:32 PM
Don't you mean the best #1 of all time?
Oh no, almost all past #1s are better. But definitely the best new #1 since Sharapova in 2005.

delicatecutter
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:49 PM
The thing I love about Aga is her natural intelligence. This is what is putting her in such a position despite her lack of power.

Steven.
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Aga is now 2nd in the race to YEC. It might really happen if Maria and Kvitty fail to pick up major pts from now on.

Viktymise
Feb 25th, 2012, 05:06 PM
Oh no, almost all past #1s are better. But definitely the best new #1 since Sharapova in 2005.

To be honest, I think you're underselling her here. I feel like she'd be one of the best we've ever had, if not the best. I'm finding it hard to think of better names....

Corswandt
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:10 PM
only woz fans celebrate making the qtrs/semi at a slam when she is the NUMBER 1 IN THE WORLD! i mean going into 6 slams as the number 1 seed and not even making a final, does that deserve praise? only in woz fans heads.

if she was ranked 7-10 where she should be and made slam qtr/semi finals, good on her, but it only shows how you truely view woz's abilities if you celebrate slam qtr finals and semis.

the only hypocrite is posters who went on and on calling her the best player and deserving number 1, but then when it came to slams were happy with average top 10 player results.

no i'm not because whether i think she should be ranked 1 or not, she was, thus was judged by the standards people expect of a number 1.

really she is a 7-10 ranked player and did very well to over achieve by making slam semis, though part of that was down to having the number 1 ranking thus the easiest draws and beating a number 1 adds an extra bit of pressure no matter how bad she is.

when she is down to #9 in the world and drawing li na, and vika just to make a slam semi we will see how often she makes it that far.

she beat wickmayer and oudin to make the final, any top 20 player should do that. if a draw falls apart like that again any respectable top 20 player should make the final.

she got to number 1 thanks to serena getting injured, thus didn't play after wimbledon 2010 and woz entered a lot of tournaments from then on till she took the number 1 ranking in tokyo (or beijing cant remember which one) as the number 1 seed.

the higher ranked you are the easier your slam draw will be, kim beat more top 10 players this oz open than last years, yet lost in the semi finals this year and won last year.

woz was the ultimate vulture in not only normal tournaments but slams too, by making the most of her top seeding to advance futher than she would if she were seeded lower and had to face a good/great player earlier. her whole game and being relevant revolved around being number 1 and avoiding top players as much as possible. i mean how many top 10 players has she beat at slams in her career :help:

0-3 vs clijsters
0-3 vs serena
0-4 vs venus

wozniacki's greatest strength was being smart. she knows she is outmatched against half a dozen players, and another 6 she is never the favourite to beat. her best bet is to play as many tournaments as possible so she can have tournaments where she avoids these players. she padded her ranking with new havens, charlestons, brussels, tournaments she both knew offered cheap points and she wouldn't likely face these players.

truely great players know they can be ranked where ever and go into slams gunning for a win, not desperately hoping to avoid big names by being seeded as high as possible. they don't need to play needless tournaments to pad their ranking. even kvitova has already realised you play to win if you are confident enough to think you can and not care about the ranking (kvitova could have very easily been number 1 already if she truely wanted).

i find you calling me a troll a compliment, cus you are just a blinded fan boy :lol:

matt01 trying his darnedest to actually argue (using only the most basic of tricks, but it's progress) and getting completely pwned - NID. Should just stick to his usual MO of being contrarian and insulting people.

Mr. Broughton's posts QFT.

Charlatan
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:28 PM
i like how some people refer others as 'trolls' when they themselves basically post trollish posts when it comes to players they don't like

Wiggly
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:40 PM
Radwanska is a great player but she has no business being a top 2 player.

Excelscior
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:43 PM
Aga is now 2nd in the race to YEC. It might really happen if Maria and Kvitty fail to pick up major pts from now on.

Considering neither have played that much, I wouldn't worry too much about that. :) :eek: :) But that's why they play the matches! We'll see?

Aga's playing well. But she's not beating any of the top players on a regular basis (usually at majors and big tournaments). So let's see where her ranking falls, after playing in more tournaments where the big players are?

Her current results seem to be a reflection of the part of the season/tournaments she's in, as her American Hard Court, Asian swing were last year.

madmax
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:48 PM
Aga is now 2nd in the race to YEC. It might really happen if Maria and Kvitty fail to pick up major pts from now on.

you mean if Masha and Kvitty somehow fail gloriously in tournaments that actually matter?:lol: And even if it happens, I doubt Lady Fluffwanska will be the one responsible for it...

Petronius
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:03 PM
so far in 2012 the only player that has beaten Lady Aga is Vizieress Aga :eek:

it seems the rest of the SEWTA just can't seem to figure out the new error-less Lady Aga :scared:

ballbashers like Mattek-Sands, Wozniak, Jankovic have had her on the ropes but cannot finish her :sobbing:

in fact, since losing to her BFF Kerber @ 2011 USO, Aga has lost only to Lucie (well she had alot of pressure in that match trying to qualify for Istanbul), Karolina, Petra and Vika :eek:

and now she has the attitude to go along with being a top player :bounce:

for sure she will be #2 behind Vika later this year ... she is barely defending any points before Tokyo ... if Vika has an injury she may even be our new #1 :inlove:

:speakles:

doomsday
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:05 PM
Radwanska is a great player but she has no business being a top 2 player.

She has no business playing tennis AT ALL.:lol:

Dexter
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:09 PM
you mean if Masha and Kvitty somehow fail gloriously in tournaments that actually matter?:lol: And even if it happens, I doubt Lady Fluffwanska will be the one responsible for it...Guess what :oh:

duhcity
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:11 PM
Considering neither have played that much, I wouldn't worry too much about that. :) :eek: :) But that's why they play the matches! We'll see?

Aga's playing well. But she's not beating any of the top players on a regular basis (usually at majors and big tournaments). So let's see where her ranking falls, after playing in more tournaments where the big players are?

Her current results seem to be a reflection of the part of the season/tournaments she's in, as her American Hard Court, Asian swing were last year.

She's definitely a second to Vika. She's shown herself as the true number 2 of the year beating Maria, who has also been behind Vika.
And Petra hasn't come to the latter stages of the tournament to even have the chance to play Aga, so don't know how that's her fault.

She beat Venus, who was admittedly tired, but that's still a significant win.

JoPova
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:15 PM
If Azarenka starts slumping and Maria/Petra cannot defend many of the points they have gained on clay/grass she can even aim at the #1! :help:

HeninFan_2008
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:18 PM
Queen Aga to ascend to her throne shortly on the dirt....

Matt01
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:32 PM
She has no business playing tennis AT ALL.:lol:


But you think that your fave with her ugly, one-dimensional, brainless ballbashing has? :scratch:

Sir Stefwhit
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:37 PM
I would actually be ok with the thread-starters prediction as long as she has slam success. As much as I love Lady Aga, it's hard to see her winning a slam w.out a major weapon, but I can see her getting to a career high #2

faboozadoo15
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:51 PM
Clay will be interesting. Vika and Aga have some to gain, and Sharapova and Petra are tough customers on the surface too.

:tape: Woz.

doomsday
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:51 PM
But you think that your fave with her ugly, one-dimensional, brainless ballbashing has? :scratch:

Always saying the same shit, grow up Matthew.
Aga is a pathetic pusher who force players to bring their worst tennis to win titles, this is working right now but it's not gonna last. Woz is on her way down and now we jut need to get rid of Radwanska it will take 1 year probably but we will triumph.

Nicolás89
Mar 31st, 2012, 08:57 PM
Always saying the same shit, grow up Matthew.
Aga is a pathetic pusher who force players to bring their worst tennis to win titles, this is working right now but it's not gonna last. Woz is on her way down and now we jut need to get rid of Radwanska it will take 1 year probably but we will triumph.

We? :unsure:

marineblue
Mar 31st, 2012, 09:09 PM
Always saying the same shit, grow up Matthew.
Aga is a pathetic pusher who force players to bring their worst tennis to win titles, this is working right now but it's not gonna last. Woz is on her way down and now we jut need to get rid of Radwanska it will take 1 year probably but we will triumph.

Wrong. Wozniacki's managed to pick herself up so you will see a lot more of her. Even playing terribly she managed to make it a competitive match and took off a set of Screamapova. As she keeps improving their next encounter is likely to be in Wozniacki's favour. Be scared, very scared ;):cool:

Matt01
Mar 31st, 2012, 09:58 PM
Always saying the same shit, grow up Matthew.
Aga is a pathetic pusher who force players to bring their worst tennis to win titles, this is working right now but it's not gonna last. Woz is on her way down and now we jut need to get rid of Radwanska it will take 1 year probably but we will triumph.


Woz just beat Serena and almost beat your fave, too...I'd say that she is clearly on her way up :shrug:

BluSthil
Mar 31st, 2012, 10:09 PM
I believe your prediction is solid !

Monzanator
Mar 31st, 2012, 10:39 PM
She won't reach #2 if she doesn't crack the GS SF barrier :shrug:

SAISAI-GOAT
Mar 31st, 2012, 11:26 PM
this prediction seeming GOAT :spit:

homogenius
Mar 31st, 2012, 11:51 PM
She won't reach #2 if she doesn't crack the GS SF barrier :shrug:

Why ? she's only 1200 pts behind Maria and has far less points to defend than her during the clay season.She could be #2 after the Fo.

RenaSlam.
Apr 1st, 2012, 12:20 AM
Say it ain't so.

doomsday
Apr 1st, 2012, 12:26 AM
Woz just beat Serena and almost beat your fave, too...I'd say that she is clearly on her way up :shrug:

:lol: keep dreaming.

chingching
Apr 1st, 2012, 12:43 AM
It will happen. She is the only player, IMO who can play well on all surfaces and she has almost no points to defend until carlsbad

Brad[le]y.
Jul 9th, 2012, 05:38 AM
NA-MUG :worship:

jrollaneres25
Jul 9th, 2012, 06:02 AM
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Kəv.
Jul 9th, 2012, 08:56 AM
NA-MUG :bowdown:

Haters :ras:

Simugna Help
Jul 9th, 2012, 10:10 AM
She won't reach #2 if she doesn't crack the GS SF barrier :shrug:
She just did :shrug:

SAISAI-GOAT
Jul 9th, 2012, 12:56 PM
NA-MUG :worship:

NA-MUG :bowdown:

Haters :ras:

thanks guys :awww:

AndreConrad
Jul 9th, 2012, 01:00 PM
Job well done NA-MUG :yeah: ... or not if that supposed to be a jinx ;)

SAISAI-GOAT
Jul 9th, 2012, 11:01 PM
I never try to jinx any SEWTA player :oh:

Nicolás89
Jul 9th, 2012, 11:55 PM
Silly gorls.