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Mercury Rising
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:44 PM
I just saw a talkshow on tv, and the subject was amazing to me. apparently the British detest us :eek:
According to a Belgian teaching in England the English (or British) press is very negative about everything that is Belgian. There was even a headline saying that Belgium is the centre of all evil, even more than Irak is. :eek:
Ofcourse you also have the famous joke: name 5 famous Belgians and then they don't know any and they LTAO.
When we do have something good they try to minimise it, like painters and architecture. Then it's original based in the Netherlands.
Oh and we should be lucky cause the British saved our ass over and over again in history. Like the two WW's.
This teacher made a book about this, trying to comprehense where this aversion comes from.

How do the British see this I wonder.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:45 PM
Never heard of that one :eek: I quite like the Belgians for what it is worth

Never heard a bad thing said about Belgium :confused:

Dirty Sanchez
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:49 PM
This is the first I've heard of it and I live there!!

Whatever talk show this is, is obviously very misleading.

In the North-East, Belgium and The Netherlands are really popular places.

Centre of all evil my arse.........

raquel
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:51 PM
Centre of evil?! I do not know any British people who think anything like that!

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:53 PM
I just realised, I live in England (no, i know that) but my flag has gone missing :( i will see if i can get it back :p

Mercury Rising
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:54 PM
Originally posted by Clijsters Fan
This is the first I've heard of it and I live there!!

Whatever talk show this is, is obviously very misleading.

In the North-East, Belgium and The Netherlands are really popular places.

Centre of all evil my arse.........
Well I don't think she's lying, the teacher that is.
The talk-show itself has nothing to do with it. Their several guest in it.
Do any Brits know Frank De Winne?

Dahveed
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:56 PM
I thought the English hated us? The French! :p

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:56 PM
Who? ;)

Mercury Rising
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:56 PM
Originally posted by raquel
Centre of evil?! I do not know any British people who think anything like that!
That was just a joke-headline or something, they compared Iraq with Belgium.

This person is probably egagerating a lot.

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 14th, 2002, 09:59 PM
The English in general hate no-one

But the feeling i get is alot of English dislike (These aren't neccesary my views)

Germans - maybe cos of the war?
Italians - Slimy
Turks - Has to do with Turks stabbing Leeds fans
French - Smelly
USA - 'We Rule, how dare anyone look down on us'
Aussies - Arrogant


Dunno any others?????

Anyone

As i say, not my views neccessairily but i know alot of people who think that about the nations listed

Dirty Sanchez
Nov 14th, 2002, 10:08 PM
I'dve said France & Spain seem to be the nations people aren't too keen on. Australia are as well yet the USA are definitely becoming challengers! ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 14th, 2002, 10:11 PM
Spain? What they slimy too (reputedly ;)) ?

Cassius
Nov 14th, 2002, 10:49 PM
The English (or British) press is very negative about everything that is Belgian. There was even a headline saying that Belgium is the centre of all evil, even more than Irak is.
I've never read a headline that says ANYthing like that, and I've lived in Britain for all my life.
The British press DOES however regard Belgium as a pretty 'boring' place.
We had an advert for a car (possibly a Renault or something similar), and the advert was:
'Belgium. The roads are straight, the rivers are straight.........even the corners are straight.'
Of course you also have the famous joke: name 5 famous Belgians and then they don't know any and they LTAO.
:D:D:D
Actually, that IS a very funny joke.
But in Liverpool, we have a slight variation:
'What's the shortest book in the world? The book of famous Belgians.'

Another one is:
'What's the shortest book in the world? The book of great Italian war heros.'
:D:D:D
Bloody funny if you ask me:D
But the feeling i get is alot of English dislike (These aren't neccesary my views)

Germans - maybe cos of the war?
Italians - Slimy
Turks - Has to do with Turks stabbing Leeds fans
French - Smelly
USA - 'We Rule, how dare anyone look down on us'
Aussies - Arrogant
I quite like Germany, and the Germans that I've met.
I don't like Italians however. A bunch of wusses, all of them:D
I also like Turkey, and want them to join the EU (I hate Leeds)
The USA? I don't like the country. Most of the people however, don't bother me 'too' much.
Aussies? Yes. They're arrogant. They have the cheek to call us 'POMs':rolleyes:

DutchieGirl
Nov 14th, 2002, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by Britney_SMG_MJH
The English in general hate no-one

But the feeling i get is alot of English dislike (These aren't neccesary my views)

Germans - maybe cos of the war?
Italians - Slimy
Turks - Has to do with Turks stabbing Leeds fans
French - Smelly
USA - 'We Rule, how dare anyone look down on us'
Aussies - Arrogant


Dunno any others?????

Anyone

As i say, not my views neccessairily but i know alot of people who think that about the nations listed

Maybe the British dislike the Aussies coz the Aussies always beat the British in sport! :p

I never heard anyone in England say anything bad about Belgians (yes, I have been to England quite alot as all my rellies live there).

DutchieGirl
Nov 14th, 2002, 11:02 PM
Originally posted by Clijsters Fan
I'dve said France & Spain seem to be the nations people aren't too keen on. Australia are as well yet the USA are definitely becoming challengers! ;)

lol Just wanna say that alot of Aussies are peeved at our govt right now, so please don't judge us on what the ass we have for a PM does! ;)

Come-on-kim
Nov 15th, 2002, 09:06 AM
I don't know, but our english teacher always told us to say that we were Belgian and not French!! Because they prefer the Belgians!!!

BTW, there's a magazine which is called "the Bulletin" and it's only stories written by the English about the Belgians

gentenaire
Nov 15th, 2002, 10:00 AM
Like Cassius, I simply get the impression Brits find us boring with lots of highways;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 15th, 2002, 10:06 AM
It said on Music TV this morning, Belgium used to be known for Chocolate and white chocolate and not alot else but now they have Lasgo :p

Bu i remember Jan Cuelemans and Jean-Marie Pfaff and the rest Marc Emmers, Clijsters, Scifo

DutchieGirl
Nov 15th, 2002, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by Britney_SMG_MJH
It said on Music TV this morning, Belgium used to be known for Chocolate and white chocolate and not alot else but now they have Lasgo :p

Bu i remember Jan Cuelemans and Jean-Marie Pfaff and the rest Marc Emmers, Clijsters, Scifo

woohoo! LASGO! :kiss: There's also Milk Inc...they had some songs on the British top 10 before... and Ian van Dahl... ;)

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 15th, 2002, 10:42 AM
Yeah we have them, but it only mentioned Lasgo this morning

Don't forget Eddie Wally :p

DutchieGirl
Nov 15th, 2002, 10:43 AM
hehe I :hearts: Lasgo... erm well, Evi to be more specific! ;)

Eddy Merckx... ;)

E. Blackadder
Nov 15th, 2002, 10:47 AM
Famous Belgians:

Sport
- Kim Clijsters
- Justine Henin
- Jacques Rogge
- Eddy Merckx
- Els Callens
- Jean-Marie Pfaff
- Dominique Van Roost
- Sabine Appelmans
- Ulla Werbrouck
- Fredje Deburghgraeve
- Gella Vandecaveye
- Enzo Scifo
- Marc Wilmots
- Jacky Ickx
- Jean-Michel Saive
- Kim Gevaert
- Mohammed Mourhit (sp?)
- Jan Ceulemans
- Xavier Malisse
- Johan Museeuw

Actors
- Jean-Claude Van Damme
- Audrey Hepburn

Inventors/Scientist
- Adolphe Sax
- Victor Horta
- Dirk Frimout

Music
- Jacques Brel
- Helmut Lotti
- Axelle Red
- Sandra Kim
- Salvatore Adamo
- Soulwax
- Hooverphonic
- K's Choice
- Milk Inc
- Lasgo
- Technotronic
- Eddy Wally :p
- Toots Tielemans
- Ian Van Dahl
- Plastic Bertrand
- Soeur Sourire

Politicians
- Willy Claes
- Guy Verhofstadt

Painters
- Pieter Paul Rubens
- Jan Van Eyck
- René Magritte
- Paul Delvaux
- Hans Memling
- Permeke

Fictive caracters
- The Smurfs
- Tintin
- Hercule Poirot

... (add if I forgotten some)

DutchieGirl
Nov 15th, 2002, 10:57 AM
ooh yeah! K's Choice! :D

lol I :hearts: the Smurfs too... but only Belgians could come up with little blue people! ;)

gentenaire
Nov 15th, 2002, 11:27 AM
Don't forget Antoon (or Anthony) Van Dyck

Mercury Rising
Nov 15th, 2002, 11:32 AM
TOP 10 REASONS FOR BEING BELGIAN

1 You get to speak three languages, but none of them intelligibly.
2 If other countries want to fight a war, they will do it in your country.
3 You can brew drinks out of fruit, and still call it beer.
4 You are either
a.like the Dutch, just less efficient
b.like the French, just less romantic
c.like the Germans
5 Decent fries. Real mayonnaise. Great chocolate. The best beer.
6 No one knows anything about you, except for the Dutch and French and they make fun of you.
7 More scandals in a week than any other country in a decade.
8 You can drive like a maniac on the road and nobody cares.
9 All your famous countrymen are either imaginary, or sex-offenders
10 Face it. It's not really a country, is it?

TOP 10 REASONS FOR BEING ENGLISH:

1. Two World Wars and One World Cup.
2. Warm beer.
3. You get to confuse everyone with the rules of cricket.
4. You get to accept defeat graciously in major sporting events.
5. Union jack underpants.
6. Water shortages guaranteed every single summer.
7. You can live in the past and imagine you are still a world power.
8. Bathing once a week - whether you need to or not.
9. Ditto changing underwear.
10. Beats being Welsh.

TOP 10 REASONS FOR BEING DUTCH
1 You can get arrested for growing plants, but not for smoking them.
2 You can make jokes about the Belgians and still drink their beer.
3 a. You can legally kill yourself.
b. You can legally be killed.
4 You're exactly like the Germans, except that nobody hates you.
5 You think you are a world power, but the rest if the world thinks Copenhagen is your capital.....
6 You get to insult people and defend yourself.
by saying it's a national tradition.
7 You can put your finger in a dyke and it will save your country.
8 You live in the most densely populated country in Europe, and still you've never seen your neighbours.
9 If the economy is bad, blame the Germans. If a war is started, blame the Germans. If you lose your keys, blame the Germans.
10 Bikes are public property. Locks are a challenge.

Mercury Rising
Nov 15th, 2002, 11:33 AM
TOP 10 REASONS FOR BEING SCOTTISH:

1. You ain't English!
2. You ain't English!
3. You ain't English!
4. You ain't English!
5. You ain't English!
6. You ain't English!
7. You ain't English!
8. You ain't English!
9. You ain't English!
10. You ain't English!

DutchieGirl
Nov 15th, 2002, 11:45 AM
lol where's the top 10 reasons for being an Aussie? :p

Fieke
Nov 15th, 2002, 11:54 AM
Well, I'm Belgian and I am studying in the UK for a year, and up to now I haven't been mobbed or anything because I'm Belgian, so I guess it is slightly exaggerated that Brits hate us ;)
I actually even managed to make some friends, so they might even like us :)

DutchieGirl
Nov 15th, 2002, 12:17 PM
Lucky Fieke! You even made British friends! :eek: I didn't think British people knew how to make friends! ;) You must have taught them how! ;)

*Mind you my parents are British, so that was said tongue in cheek* (just before anyone gets mad at me).

Fieke
Nov 15th, 2002, 12:24 PM
Originally posted by inkyfan

*Mind you my parents are British, so that was said tongue in cheek* (just before anyone gets mad at me).

Good thing you added that, because if there's one thing I haven't mastered yet, it's the British humor :)

DutchieGirl
Nov 15th, 2002, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by Fieke


Good thing you added that, because if there's one thing I haven't mastered yet, it's the British humor :)

btw... that was a joke against the British, not the Belgians... and I'm an Aussie... only my parents are English! ;)

I love Belgians! :D And Belgium! :D (England's not bad either... if you get past the fact that they speak English there). ;)

Monica_Rules
Nov 15th, 2002, 02:32 PM
I have never heard anything like this!

BritneySpearsIsHot
Nov 15th, 2002, 02:43 PM
If you haven't learnt the British humour yet, you never will

It's all about sarcasm and cussing :p

Brαm
Nov 15th, 2002, 03:27 PM
That woman on "de laatste show" was just talking crap IMO... :rolleyes:

Fieke
Nov 15th, 2002, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Britney_SMG_MJH
It's all about sarcasm and cussing :p

... and that's the problem: it is so hard to know whether a British person is being sarcastic or just being rude ;)

maybe that was the problem with the person on that Belgian talkshow: maybe he or she was just being sarcastic and Belgians thought that person was really offfending them or something :confused:

Mercury Rising
Nov 15th, 2002, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by bram_born84
That woman on "de laatste show" was just talking crap IMO... :rolleyes:
Oh, did you see it? She even made a book about it :eek:
And she's a teacher there :rolleyes:
Maybe she just doesn't get the sarcastic humour :confused: :o

DutchieGirl
Nov 16th, 2002, 04:30 AM
hmm ok... Aussies are VERY sarcastic in their humour too! :eek: Oh good god, we have something in common with the poms! ;)

Nicoleke
Nov 16th, 2002, 09:12 AM
I really do like belgian chocolate, it' s my favourite one :) :D :) :D ;) !!!!!